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Might be entertaining in the future when I have more money for travel to bang some random women. I certainly am at least easy to amuse. Maybe I’ll audio record the sessions and create a queef compilation or archive.
One mistake I made before I broke up with the Vietnamese gf a few months ago was forgetting to record her queefing after a session. I find that tight pussy f~~~ed doggie style tends to queef the most. Also, if I’ve dumped a big load in there.
I’ve also gotten good at surreptitiously blowing air into their cooch and then when we do it doggie style you get a machinegun queef sometimes.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
But I have my own take on women. As a man, I like to f~~~ women. Is part of my biology and, while I can deny it and go monk, I can also roll with it, which is what I do.
Where does it say you can’t get a laid in the MGTOW manual? Oh wait there is no manual.
Go Your Own Way. It’s self explanatory.
If you have resources and a woman wants your resources everything you posted is extra work for nothing. Park your ass in a chair with a cool drink and she will hunt you down. No effort required on your part. I spend way more energy avoiding woman who trigger my redflag radar, than I do finding woman to PnD.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Ranger that was funny.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I am not here to convert monks.
I don’t know about others, but if a woman makes a lot of efforts to have a bright conversation and then invite me to have a coffee, then why I shouldn’t try to have sex with her? Her efforts somewhat deserve a prize.
Going monk, at least for me, is basically ignoring signals and avoiding night clubs and dating sites: it’s about being lazy/apathetic in the very first phase. That’s enough to keep away (basically discouraging them) 99% women, perhaps even 99.9%.
Last time a woman “hitted” on me she started the conversation, she kept smiling and talking all the time, we were at a meeting. When the meeting did end she exited from the room, waiting for me outside, then she started the conversation again, with even more smiles. I was friendly, but I didn’t smile to her nor I tried to make her laugh. I was thinking “it’s not enough, you have to do something more”. She tried, in her limited and insufficient way. Finally, I saluted her.
There are blowjob machines and fleshlights (even anal model) waiting me at home, and the best she’s offering is sex using a condom, and often it’s not even sex in the same night: often it implies to date her another day. That’s why she have to do quite a lot of efforts.I am only here to show the way if you want to f~~~ and not get caught.
Your way is paranoid and requires too many efforts.
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I don’t know about others, but if a woman makes a lot of efforts to have a bright conversation and then invite me to have a coffee, then why I shouldn’t try to have sex with her?
To me, ‘try’ is the key word here. Exactly how much effort are you putting in? I think for me, in such a scenario, I see little harm in having coffee. If I find myself physically attractive enough to want sex, I’ll get background info to determine whether it’s safe or whether she’s interested. Then, I would be blunt, let her know without doubt what I want. She can accept or reject as she chooses.
I don’t have much interest in trying to convince her that I’m someone different then I am, or trying to actually be the person she wants.
Going monk, at least for me, is basically ignoring signals and avoiding night clubs and dating sites: it’s about being lazy/apathetic in the very first phase. That’s enough to keep away (basixally discouraging them) 99% women, perhaps even 99.9%.
Agreed. I don’t have much interest in night clubs nor know anyone I’m attracted to in my circle of friends. I’m on a dating site, but don’t write anyone, which pretty much kills the chance of something happening there. I wouldn’t call it lazy though. I’m just not going out of my way to make something happen.
Your way is paranoid and requires too many efforts.
See my previous post.I think the precautions are necessary if you are willing to sleep with a certain kind of woman. You can reduce your risk as well by being more selective. Not completely safe, but you’re never completely safe.
I should have said before, but besides not being interested in the effort, I also don’t want to adopt a fake identity on principle. I’m not intending to judge anyone, nor am I claiming to be altruistic, but it’s just not a step I want to take.
Ok. Then do it.
Might be entertaining in the future when I have more money for travel to bang some random women. I certainly am at least easy to amuse. Maybe I’ll audio record the sessions and create a queef compilation or archive.
One mistake I made before I broke up with the Vietnamese gf a few months ago was forgetting to record her queefing after a session. I find that tight pussy f~~~ed doggie style tends to queef the most. Also, if I’ve dumped a big load in there.
I’ve also gotten good at surreptitiously blowing air into their cooch and then when we do it doggie style you get a machinegun queef sometimes.
This is a good idea, I should have do it.
Once I had sex with a girl from Philippines, I was 22 or 23 or something like that and she was 2-3 years older than me: she screamt “TAK TAK TAK” during the whole session…WTF?
Then I had been made aware that “TAK” means “yes” 😀
I’m pretty sure that even with the recorded session, an university panel would still expel me from the university, on the ground that “TAK isn’t yes, she have to say yes in English!” 😉SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
I don’t know about others, but if a woman makes a lot of efforts to have a bright conversation and then invite me to have a coffee, then why I shouldn’t try to have sex with her?
To me, ‘try’ is the key word here. Exactly how much effort are you putting in?
Zero efforts.
If she have a bright conversation and she invite me out for a coffe, then I’m going to keep the interesting conversation then invite her at my home, immediatly or for a dinner in the next day(s). In the latter case I have to cook, but I’m not going to spend a lot nor to cook things that I wouldn’t eat alone.The only difference between my monk phase and before monk is that before monk I still did some efforts at the beginning: I was the one asking her for her number or out for the coffee and she just had to throw signals and she wasn’t required to have a bright conversation, she was just only required to have a decent look and throwing signals. Not anymore, my personal bar is higher now.
I don’t have much interest in trying to convince her that I’m someone different then I am, or trying to actually be the person she wants.
I don’t have even interest to boast all my real qualities, I’m the very opposite of a peac~~~, and I care nothing about what she wants.
I simply appreciate the efforts when those efforts are made, and going monk to me simply mean raising the bar of the efforts required to her.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Mark, very interesting strategy. I enjoy reading it. I believe you must be young, energetic, and good looking (I rarely got a response from online dating). Only if I were 20 years younger and good looking, I will definitely try your method.
Create a false identity. Make up a name, and get 100 cards with your fake name on them. Get a couple of pre-paid phones and pay for them cash. Get a fake wallet where you stuff your fake business cards. And you can even create fake plastic cards that, to the non-suspicious eye, will look like credit cards. I got mine as “samples” from a Chinese company, together with my own fake company card.
holy s~~~ man! all of this to get some pussy? Seriously that time spent on trying to get them in bed could be spent elsewhere and you’d be a lot happier trust me and still if you want to bang them just hire an escort, what’s with all the fuss?
When I have a pen in my hands, it's lethal.
Anonymous3There will never be a time that a woman makes an overt sexual move on a man. Women’s nature is that they will show interest, but then switch it around making the man pursue her. This is one reason women can not get “good” men. A good man isn’t aware of this dynamic and also isn’t willing to degrade himself and pursue a woman that acts unwilling. And this is even more true the older they both are. Also women by nature will make biting, cutting remarks, to place herself in a superior position to the man. A low tier man doesn’t care, he already knows he is trash. But a better man is insulted and repelled by it.
All women are like this. I’ve had women honk their car horns at me, follow me around, give me gifts, buy me food, touch my hair and my arms, and STILL they always wanted to pretend I was pursuing them, that they were just being friendly, that I was a horny pervert. What they want is for me to invite them to my bedroom, throw them down, and then f~~~ their brains out. And I did that enough times to then refuse to do it anymore.
Women are a base, vile creature. It is important to know that. They can not speak the truth, they are ashamed of their own desires and thoughts, and they want to project it out on others. Women have this idea that the only reason a man would do something is to “prove” himself, to prove a woman wrong especially. So they always try to attack in a way to get the man to do what she wants while creating the illusion that she disapproves of him for doing it. They can not act nicely, they can not admit something is to their benefit and they want it. They know themselves they would never do anything for someone else’s benefit, and so they assume men are the same way. That is one reason they pretend marriage benefits men, and not women. It’s because they think men will marry them and they can trick men into it that way.
After university, I can work for 3 hours and I will get enough money for 1 hours of sexy time with a beautiful young hooker.
Dating takes alot more time and energy and the girl will most likely be average looking at best.
There will never be a time that a woman makes an overt sexual move on a man. Women’s nature is that they will show interest, but then switch it around making the man pursue her.
I agree, and that’s why going monk is basically just only being apathetic/lazy in the very first phase.
It’s not even waiting for the “overt sexual move”, it’s just only waiting for her to make efforts to have an interesting conversation and then asking you to have a coffee, or something like that. 99.9% women can’t do even that.
Few weeks ago I was talking with my son, he’s going to ask the first basics about those things, and I realized that in fact women are so terrified by rejection that, in example, in my whole life I never received signals from particularly ugly women, and I bet it’s the same for most men: the women who give signals tend to look worse than the men they’re trying to lure, but not so much – a woman who is 5 doesn’t even try to lure a man who is 8, she’ll try with a 6.5, at best with a 7. This speaks volumes about their insecurities and fear of rejection.All women are like this. I’ve had women honk their car horns at me, follow me around, give me gifts, buy me food, touch my hair and my arms, and STILL they always wanted to pretend I was pursuing them, that they were just being friendly, that I was a horny pervert. What they want is for me to invite them to my bedroom, throw them down, and then f~~~ their brains out. And I did that enough times to then refuse to do it anymore.
Women are a base, vile creature. It is important to know that. They can not speak the truth, they are ashamed of their own desires and thoughts, and they want to project it out on others.
Agreed.
My idea is that women are the source of 99% sexual bigotry and the source of 99% hypocrisy surrounding sex, and I say that due a lot of experiences with them.
That’s why I’m particularly fascinated by the idea of a male sexuality totally independent from the limitations and the bigotry imposed by women: artificial means and the likes.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Anonymous42All this work is making me tired, I’m gonna go take a nap and dream about skiing under the ropes and out of bounds next winter, ALONE! Like I said, I’m not afraid to die!
I’m TERRIFIED of NOT LIVING!
Tower I didn’t get this at all, can you enligth me?
With a name like carnage, I didn’t think I’d have to enlighten you, follow me out of bounds next winter and do some bomb holes when weather permitting, then you’ll know when you survive you’ll know your LIVING!
In Hollywood they say break a leg, when we say it we mean it! Motto’s like Jay Peak’s “ski good or eat wood” have a pile of teeth to prove it!
I’ll just part in saying break a leg and collapse a lung dude!
Create a false identity. Make up a name, and get 100 cards with your fake name on them. Get a couple of pre-paid phones and pay for them cash. Get a fake wallet where you stuff your fake business cards. And you can even create fake plastic cards that, to the non-suspicious eye, will look like credit cards. I got mine as “samples” from a Chinese company, together with my own fake company card.
holy s~~~ man! all of this to get some pussy? Seriously that time spent on trying to get them in bed could be spent elsewhere and you’d be a lot happier trust me and still if you want to bang them just hire an escort, what’s with all the fuss?
He’s probably young and he still need to prove his worth to himself. It’s normal, I was like him once.
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Bro if that works for you have at it. It’s all cool. I’ve been told I don’t put in enough effort. I think that’s what they said, not sure wasn’t paying much attention.
Peace is > piece.
Ok, my two cents.
You’ve done your fake bit, got some tart in a hotel/airbnb/her place and done the deed.
Next day you p~~~ her off with the anti-feminist message and she goes apes~~~.
You laugh and go about your business as normal.
Meanwhile Ms Woman Scorned makes ONE PHONE CALL because now you’ve treated her so badly she’s calling ‘rape’ on you. You think “so what?”
Cops come and interview her, she gives her name, your fake name, time place etc etc. Cops can’t find your identity at FIRST. So immediately they think they’ve found something really strange, why does this guy use a fake ID? Maybe they think they’ve got some serial rapist case.
So, they check CCTV, they have your description, they can follow you all round town night and day. They check the time you met in the coffee house, get till receipts, start tracing where/when your REAL card was used by the simple process of elimination, interviewing the staff who served you, in store security CCTV gets pulled out.
You could be arrested within 24-48 hrs after you dumped this chick. You may be in this city for a good week/month? Or you fly to another state?
No matter, they’ll get you. Cops find you’ve flown home/new foreign destination? You get arrested on landing, or hours, and if you’re lucky, days after.Thing is as I see it, if you did get caught out, innocent as you are, you are risking a world of hurt, simply by being so furtive. Cops are suspicious bastards by profession. They’ll be running checks on you forever while you sit in a cell sweating.
ONE PHONE CALL, chances of you getting done are pretty high fella, just takes one p~~~ed off conquest. You’ll look like Mr international super rapist to the average detective. Any rape allegation is going to be harder to fight off BECAUSE of your clandestine lifestyle. Hell, they might think you’re some kind of other criminal, who just rapes girls on the side while doing drugs or arms shipments. They’ll love holding you for kicks to see the onion peel.
I could be full of s~~~ here, but you’re on shaky ground mate. My two cents.
All this work is making me tired, I’m gonna go take a nap and dream about skiing under the ropes and out of bounds next winter, ALONE! Like I said, I’m not afraid to die!
I’m TERRIFIED of NOT LIVING!
Tower I didn’t get this at all, can you enligth me?
With a name like carnage, I didn’t think I’d have to enlighten you, follow me out of bounds next winter and do some bomb holes when weather permitting, then you’ll know when you survive you’ll know your LIVING!
In Hollywood they say break a leg, when we say it we mean it! Motto’s like Jay Peak’s “ski good or eat wood” have a pile of teeth to prove it!
I’ll just part in saying break a leg and collapse a lung dude!
Noooo thanks.
I don’t like snow much. I love mountains and over 2800 I usually find some snow, but I have a deep respect for that white thing. Not funny at all… don’t blame me, I’m Latino.To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
PUA snake oil.
Did. Not. Read.
Fuck this planet.
Anonymous42I don’t like snow much. I love mountains and over 2800 I usually find some snow, but I have a deep respect for that white thing. Not funny at all… don’t blame me, I’m Latino.
Me amori navaho!
Mark it sounds to me like you are investing a lot of time, effort, energy, and resources in your pursuit of pussy. My question is very simple—is this really worth it. I treat this as a cost benefit analysis. the cost and risk is high–the benefit is extremely low.
Now I’ve been monk for over two decades; its not that hard (sorry for the pun) Obviously MGTOW means going your own way and if your own way is to be a slave to a woman’s crotch that is your business. But surely you recognize that giving into to the pussy will ultimately be self-destructive to you? Either you will end up manipulated in some way, or arrested or so on.
With a little guidance you can find more productive outlets for your time/effort/energy/resources than scoring a disease ridden stink hole. Who is in control of your body? Your mind? or your b~~~~?
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