Lost Virginity, Lost Hope, No Friends, No Future

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

NO…Becoming a MAN is not about having sex, or throwing ball with fathers or other stuff…Becoming a MAN is you being responsible for your own life, for each and every decision you make…Its knowing that you always had that choice…You cant keep blaming hormones or be a victim…Do something to improve yourself and for yourself…

Granted a lot of us here are also struggling, but you are still in the purple pill…You will make the same mistake…Remember that pain. Keep reading and using your mind to analyze and make decisions for yourself…It is your life…We cant live your life for you…

Keep reading and follow the stories of members that interested you. You will learn a lot from the fathers, uncles, grandpas and brothers you wished you had…Learn from the experience of MEN here…

The advice given here are solid…Either you take it or leave it but it is your choice and YOU will have to face the consequences of your decision…Good luck on growing…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[SkelatorParticipant 1261]

Yeah, I work with a bunch of assholes too.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

All men are virgins unless you get buggered by another man. If the definition of losing one’s virginity is our penis penetrates a woman, then we are all mother f~~~ers the day we are born. Relax. Pussy comes and pussy goes. Just don’t get attached.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Brother, I got some Long words for you. But I hope you kick this fuzz you are in.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[AttonParticipant]

You will find no solace in the bosom of a woman, that is the first and only reality of women. Your welcome here Disenchanted and it will remain that way.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 42]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I feel like I don’t belong. I also feel like I don’t understand what’s wrong from what’s right.

Ignoring good advice leaves you stranded every time! I don’t make the rules, I simply try to play by them to my advantage.

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I felt so much regret for not having listened to any of you and for not taking your advice.

It’s never too late to use the map of wisdom and guidance people throughout your life freely hand you when you’re about to make a mistake! I know a guy in his 50’s that hasn’t learned to listen to the wisdom of others. You can stay on that road of arrogant ignorance, or try a path that someone is pointing to, that makes utter sense!

Or burn those precious charts and let stupidity and ignorance guide your way!

I have a friend in his 30s’ so full of elementary wisdom I take his word as almost gospel! Time and time again the people that ignore him pay over and over again! We’re both always sharing advice being our ears aren’t clogged with ignorance! We’ve saved each other small fortunes and big miseries!

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I don’t understand why something natural for a man like his sexual desire for women is considered so toxic.

Because now, thanks to gender studies Marxist education the natural man is considered a rapist, they put that in your head along with a million other chants well rehearsed and known by heart!

It’s one or the other, never both!

The woman’s liberation assault on men and the patriarchy is having long lasting and devastating unintended consequences.

So the truth’s out? Good!

#METOO I’m MGTOW! I’m all done with grandma’s and great grandma’s dirty filthy hand-me-down women covered in her foul mental stinking s~~~!

There’s nothing wrong with you brother, I can only hope for your sake you join the awakened men abandoning the plantation in pursuit of YOUR DREAMS!

Life with the western modern women rinse and repeat, one after another, over and over, is a life on a carousel going round and round but not getting anywhere but older and older.

DisenchantedBro wrote:

Why does masculinity have to be toxic if it’s natural? I don’t want to be feminine. My mother tried to make me the perfect little polite guy, and I live like that for many years, but I don’t want that. I’m a guy, I can’t be a pristine thing just to fit in society.

They want the good parts of the recently deceased patriarchy, like chivalry, generosity, compassion, respect, but on the other hand, they want to preserve all their detrimental rights that ruined society and murdered the patriarchy!

They want and expect us to betray our natural selves and become some molested perverted from of sub-human-being, not a man, nor a woman, just something in between that obeys to get along.

As far as I’m concerned? They can retrain and reeducate themselves to go f~~~ themselves!

I WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN’S SERVANT!

And don’t BULLS~~~ YOURSELF! ^^^^THAT’S WHAT THEY ALL WANT!

AWALT!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello DB,

Congratulations, your have found a gold mine.

Sadly, you tossed away some of the nuggets last year and chose to learn the hard way. The replies in that first Introduction were outstanding:

/forums/topic/25-year-old-virgin-whos-lost-all-hope/

Your not alone. I got great advice in my twenties but perceived those wizened old men as miserable losers. So, I ignored their advise which cost me big time.

Thankfully, I eventually found out that there were more interesting things to do in life than being involved with women.

The replies you have got in your posts are real Gold, you should read them often and try to understand their value.
It is heart warming to read the replies in this Post. I hope you can come to appreciate them.

Now you can dig deep for real treasures.

You Consider becoming a Tradesman.
Get into one of the Trades apprenticeship programs ASAP, like Plumbing, Carpentry, Electrical, HVAC-R, Machinist, Welding, Iron Workers, Elevator Mechanics, Locksmith….

Here are some YouTube talks by Mike Rowe that brings up the truth about jobs and real success. He suggests great opportunities for men in today’s economy.
These videos will also help you to fight the foolish programming that was forced upon your generation:

I have come to believe that Pornography is a Psychological Operation, Psyop, that is created to turn men like us into Soppy Wankers.

Here is a Post which attempts to discuss the Power of Celibacy, your feedback there is appreciated:

/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/

Also, you should also consider full contact mixed martial arts training.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

1) you want forgiveness? Go to church, here we give ass whoppings.

2) your ex friend is a classic mangina white knight, friends? Get that out of your head, you don’t know who is your friend until you are in jail or in a battlefield.

3) sex feels good, I know I was a raging sex maniac, but is just a drug, is all in your head.

4) MGTOW is for you, and yourself, let other men die.

5) F~~~ YOU. Im a monster and I’m proud of it.

Have a bad day.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

If you want to be more masculine, you need to elevate your testosterone. That’ll happen naturally if you physically exert yourself. Your testosterone will also elevate when you aren’t in a sexual relationship with a woman, but that’s way less effective than training.

Find something heavy. Move it. Then move it back. Go to a junk yard and haul blown tires around or buy one or two and take them home.

Do pushups and pullups. Spend $8 on “Convict Conditioning” on Kindle and follow it with your phone or web browser.

More testosterone makes more muscle. More muscle makes you more masculine. More testosterone makes you think clearer. Less free time means less obsessing over sex and whatever bulls~~~ other people are trying to project on you.

Get hobbies. Stay busy.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1283]

Dis,

What part of the state do you live in?
Honestly California is probably a large part of your problem.
I’m around the state often for work. Worst females in the country.

Vajra

[HermitParticipant]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

If you want to be more masculine, you need to elevate your testosterone. That’ll happen naturally if you physically exert yourself. Your testosterone will also elevate when you aren’t in a sexual relationship with a woman, but that’s way less effective than training.

Find something heavy. Move it. Then move it back. Go to a junk yard and haul blown tires around or buy one or two and take them home.

Do pushups and pullups. Spend $8 on “Convict Conditioning” on Kindle and follow it with your phone or web browser.

More testosterone makes more muscle. More muscle makes you more masculine. More testosterone makes you think clearer. Less free time means less obsessing over sex and whatever bulls~~~ other people are trying to project on you.

Get hobbies. Stay busy.

That’s good advice for anyone.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Oneitis is silly. I don’t get oneitis anymore; I was disappointed one too many times by females and became red-pilled.

Whether it is some woman that claims to love me or 6 Thai hotties sitting on my face, I don’t really feel a connection to them any more than I would a blow-up doll.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Vajra VarahaParticipant 1283]

Ranger One wrote:

… 6 Thai hotties sitting on my face, I don’t really feel a connection to them any more than I would a blow-up doll.

Well damn bubba, I need to hang out with you more! LMAO

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Disenchanted Bro. Okay, maybe I can help on somethings because I was in your situation where I dated a co-worker at work 29 years ago. I’m 47, now so from my experience listen up. First off, dating a co-worker is bad. You don’t date co-workers. I don’t care how good looking she is or how she might say she is an exception to the rule this can go bad. In my situation, it was like a jail sentence. I dated this girl from 1989 to 1991. She broke up with me and she didn’t resign until 2007. That’s 16 years. So constant reminders of seeing my mistake and her dating other guys through word of mouth. Same with having sex with guys through word of mouth. I know you lost your job but that might of been the best thing that happened to you in this situation so you can start over and you’re young. The fact you stated you became a slacker at work proves the point that it did affect you in some way. So think of it this way you don’t ever have to see her again. For me, I didn’t have that option for 16 years and this was my first serious girlfriend. I could have quit but I do make good money at my job and now I stand to retire in 8 years so staying actually worked out. Now as for your friend Alex? Dude don’t get mad. I think he might have been having sex with your ex-girlfriend. Look at the signs, you told him about MGTOW and he cut you off instantly. He might have used this to get into your exes panties. I don’t mean to be mean but he sounds like he might of. I could be wrong about the guy but it sounds if he didn’t have sex with her he would try to use this story as leverage to try and have sex with her. Dude, I know how you feel. I’ve been there and you have no one to talk to and it seems hopeless. My advice? Don’t turn away from MGTOW this time. Most women are hypergamous out there and even if there are exceptions to the rule. Those exceptions are really really low. You have a better chance winning the lottery than finding someone who claims to love you unconditionally. So my advice? Look at this as a learning experience. As far as the people at where you used to work think of you as a villain, being a villain is a good thing. Trust me on that one.

[AutoliteParticipant]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

Today, I feel so terrible. After I joined the group, instead of just following everyone’s advice on here, I made the huge mistake of telling the one guy at the office, Alex, about MGTOW. I thought he would understand and that he might also get something positive from it. To my surprise he reacted in a completely opposite way. He shamed me and told me I was a misogynist and that I was going to become a monster. He knew about what had happened with the girl at work, so I thought he would be a little more understanding.

No need to beat yourself up over this. You’re still a young man and you’re still learning what people are really all about. We’ve all been there.

Never tell anyone anything that they can ever use or play against you. That includes so-called friends. You never know when or why a ‘friend’ will turn against you. Trust nobody. It’s only human nature that people are untrustworthy. It just goes double for women.

You’re currently unemployed and you say that you need to feel ‘manly’. Maybe you might want to consider joining the military. At least for the duration of basic training, you won’t even have the time to think about women or to worry about getting laid. Best of luck to you…

[L. EulerParticipant 343]

Dear Disenchanted Bro,
Do not do anything rash or suicidal.
L. Euler here is a disenchanted bro…with women. They do have charms, after all it’s probably God’s joke on all of us to get us to reproduce. For the most part I’m leaving God out of it.
The first thing that you coming back to MGTOW is a significant fact that MGTOW is poorly understood by outsiders. It is not misogynist to understand that a scorpion has a stinger or that a rattlesnake might bite. They need a healthy degree of respect and so do women. It wasn’t always this way but gynocentric laws have given them a toxic lethality that is rapidly killing even normal men’s desire to date post hashtag me too.
Suicides of Robin Williams and Anthony Bourdain are dramatic examples of this …but it really is true that the number one cause of a suicide is a disturbed interpersonal relationship and if you think otherwise, than as a doctor, you missed the diagnosis.
I am not a psychiatrist but am a specialist physician, and I wont go any further to doxx myself, so all physicians have had a psychiatry rotation and I KNOW what I’m talking about.
Now, I have no time to be misogynistic towards the other half of the population.

I was pretty much a nerd and smartened up a lot post gynecology rotation, which was really helpful to understanding the opposite sex, after all they have basic reproductive drives instilled by our creator as well. You are in your twenties and I doubt if there’d been such a thing as MGTOW, that I would have listened as well.
Besides if you want children then marriage is a “mistake every man must make”.
So, that’s how many of us are “blue-pilled”.
The basic nature of women is they love you with about half the radio volume turned up…but because you might die in battle as a warrior… they only love you 50%.(they always think of another deal)
They finally realize what 100% volume on the radio is once they have a child, whereas men get that 100% volume early on in attraction. So, she is not able to love you 100% even on her wedding day. So once you understand this basic nature, you will not blame or hate them for it. This is the way of the world, so men must understand it.
Women head the other way if you come on too strong; this is also normal, since if you appear needy, this contradicts their search for the “strong silent protector” type…so now you know their search for a protector is as old as cave man days…they will never abandon that.
The problem recently is not misogyny..it is misandry in TV, movies, etc a whole culture of internet, Facebook, means that communication is much more rapid.There precious few role models for young men growing up.
Do not mention MGTOW to others, unless you think they are suicidal and then find the number to the nearest local help center.

Regarding being disenchanted with MGTOW… this might have happened during the recent website troubles, and some GALT’s might have wanted their money back, but I kept donating even though the site was down and I stayed true to MGTOW, because they are helpful to men. The Keymaster needed the donation to get IT help and protection.
MGTOW’s not going away because the societal forces that drove us here are still there in droves, because the left has gone too far. Go to any courtroom.

Our societal situation is reasonably explained by understanding the true nature of women and I’m not telling you never to get married or have kids, but when you do be aware of “blue pill hell”. Yes, you can be married and be MGTOW, but at least you are aware of the general future direction of taking vows and the over-empowerment of women. I strongly recommend listening to Jordan Peterson, who has a wonderful linguistic ability to encapsulate the masculine situation without coming across as misogynist. Many members on this site do come across as misogynist women hater’s.
It’s important to pick and choose who you listen to on this site. I have in the past managed a suicide crisis help line as part of my training.
Well that’s about all for now.

Until then, remember the “scorpion” and and the “snake”; do not hate them for what they are, but give them a healthy degree of respect; they deserve it and so do you.
There’s no need for a feminist movement; the problem with the left is that they don’t know when they’ve gone too far.

L. Euler

[Branched offParticipant 10926]

This does not sound too bad. You have done some experimenting. That is healthy. You have not been divorce raped or hit for child support. You have not been falsely accused of anything. You dodged the bullets. A man has to have a mixture of practical and theoretical knowledge in life. Its a pretty special sort of bloke who makes a good happy virgin monk.

We are supposed to shag them and impregnate them. It therefore makes us feel good. Its not toxic. Femininity is toxic today and that is why women have to be treated as dangerous and often avoided.

As to seeking mentors and guys to do guy stuff, I do sympathise. I think young men these days are not encouraged to do guy stuff and older men are not encouraged to mentor -they are probably accused of being queers grooming or something. The solution I would advise is follow your interests. If you like hiking go and do it and chat on websites and you will find partners to go with. Same if you like hinting or car mechanics. As your hobbies develop, so you will meet the guys to do them with and to chat with about life and women too.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Anonymous 1]

I have been divorced for over 30 years and haven’t been in a relationship for quite a while. I admit, but don’t brag about being somewhat hedonistic. My married friends used to live vicariously through me seeming to long for the freedom of choice. I am aware that I make their significant others nervous for fear that I will mentor them.

I am single because I know it’s what I’m good at and not suited for domesticity in spite of the conventional wisdom espoused by the masses. Yes, it’s me not you is a real excuse. Many times I wish it were different after all I do need someone to mop the floor, cook slop she calls dinner, rebuild the transmission or f~~~ when beckoned. Now I am obliged to pay a much cheaper rate for all those things.

When my son or daughter tell me something I have to think three times before I respond. When my daughter texted me the other day that she was pregnant with the forth child, my instinct was to say, “are you f~~~ing nuts”? Pause for thought allowed me to say something more conventional.

Everyone has to go their own way in whatever vehicle that gets them there. So I think maybe I’ll take a nap and later smoke a cigar and then go have a beer. The guilt I feel for not supporting a shrew will soon pass and I hope you find your way, which by the way might be through Amsterdam or Thailand.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

DisenchantedBro wrote:

I don’t understand why something natural for a man like his sexual desire for women is considered so toxic. I’m not a bad guy. I think I’m very average.

You’re just growing up bro. YOu already are a real man. It takes time! You’re not fully adult yet. You’re like The Catcher in the Rye, holden caulfield.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Hang in there, Man.

I can relate. Its because folks like us are raised in a feminine household, we cannot shape our personalities like normal men, and it haunts us. I get it.

I turn 23 in 4 months, and I never regret any moment of my life. Believe me, I was so down depressed at one time, I honestly thought I cannot survice in this world.

But that phase is over now, and I live a relatively happy life.

Don’t be ashamed of being a man.

I have a video that really helped me a lot. I am sure it will help you and serve to open your eyes.

Don’t be ashamed of being a man, Mr. DisEnchanted. Never!!!

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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