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Hi guys, I come in shame and asking for your forgiveness and a second chance. A few months ago when I joined the site, I was struggling with being a virgin as a young man in my early 20s. I also mentioned my toxic relationship with my mother and how I never had a father or any male role models around me. I also told you about how I tried to date a co-worker and she humiliated me.
Today, I feel so terrible. After I joined the group, instead of just following everyone’s advice on here, I made the huge mistake of telling the one guy at the office, Alex, about MGTOW. I thought he would understand and that he might also get something positive from it. To my surprise he reacted in a completely opposite way. He shamed me and told me I was a misogynist and that I was going to become a monster. He knew about what had happened with the girl at work, so I thought he would be a little more understanding.
Alex was the only sort of friend I had. Now he doesn’t talk to me and he has told other people at the office that I’m this terrible person. I’m a straight white male who wanted to date women so I must be a monster.
I didn’t return to MGTOW for a while. Instead, I thought that maybe if I lost my virginity and became a real man, that maybe my problems would be solved. I started using dating apps, specifically Tinder, and within a couple tries I met a girl that seemed nice enough. We met in person and later that same week I lost my virginity to her. The physical sensation was really good. So for a few months I would see this girl just to have sex, but I started to like her. But then suddenly she stopped answering my calls or texts. I had never had sex before her and she knew that. I didn’t think it was serious but I also didn’t expect her to just disappear
This put me in a very bad place. I wanted to continue dating because sex feels good, but I didn’t want to feel so empty. I know it must sound stupid. But I feel there is no place for me anywhere. I know I’m a straight white dude, but these things still hurt me and I feel so alienated by society. I feel like I don’t belong. I also feel like I don’t understand what’s wrong from what’s right. I didn’t know giving a woman a compliment was something terrible, or that wanting to have sex was a crime. I’m constantly made to feel like I’m some rapist just because I find women attractive. It feels so absurd.
After that I felt very depressed. I started watching a lot of porn just to get off and to drink a lot of beer everyday after work. I admit this was all my fault, so I started slacking off at work and eventually I got fired for arguing with a colleague. I’ve been out of a job for three weeks now and I feel very hopeless.
I felt so much regret for not having listened to any of you and for not taking your advice. All I thought about was to get my dick wet, and once that happened I felt so much worst. I’m very confused. I don’t understand why something natural for a man like his sexual desire for women is considered so toxic. I’m not a bad guy. I think I’m very average. I can’t understand why something natural is wrong. Should I not find women sexy or desirable? I’m in my early 20s. I feel so weak when I’m not able to control the urge to bust a nut (I know it’s such a vulgar phrase but I can’t describe any other way).
I wonder if older men also had to deal with all these bulls~~~ about toxic masculinity when they were young, or if this is something new imposed on my generation. Why does masculinity have to be toxic if it’s natural? I don’t want to be feminine. My mother tried to make me the perfect little polite guy, and I live like that for many years, but I don’t want that. I’m a guy, I can’t be a pristine thing just to fit in society.
I’ve been recently thinking I wanted to become more masculine, and to really embrace being a man without the need of women’s approval, but it’s very hard. I don’t know where to start. I never had a dad to take me hunting, or fishing, or to play ball. My mom didn’t let me have friends, so I never really played much outside. But I really wanted to. I wish I had strong men in my life to show me the way. I know I’m already 23, but I never felt like I got a chance to learn how to be a man and I feel so dumb and lost. I know that if I had had a father or a grandpa or uncles, or brothers I wouldn’t be feeling so sorry for myself in my apartment jacking off to porn and drinking beer. I’ve felt like my life has no meaning.
Ive also tried to make friends in the past, but most guys I meet are more interested in spending time with their girlfriends, and I get it, they want to have sex, I don’t blame them. But I haven’t met any guys in the real world that want to be friends and do guy things. I would also love to find a mentor someone that could guide my a little bit into how to be a real man and not this sad excuse for a man I’ve become. Any help would be appreciated. I know I’ve let you all down with my behavior.
I went back and read your first topic. You will not get any better advice than what you got from Keymaster.
All I can say is there is alaways hope. In 6 months you will have a new job and attitude. You are very lucky to have found MGTOW so early in life. Stick around, read, learn and most importantly keep moving forward.
Anonymous38Sometimes a man’s gotta see for himself. Don’t be downhearted bro, a lot of guys would kill to be in your position and not to have arrived at MGTOW after being through the grinder. Stick around and keep taking the red pills. You don’t need a woeman in your life to give it meaning.
Oh Man,
Please sort it out Bro!
No.1 You don’t need anyone’s forgiveness. Don’t ask for it.
No.2 There’s nothing wrong with having a desire for sex. It’s pretty normal Bro.
No.3 Don’t share your secrets with anyone. You really can’t trust people with full disclosure unless you’ve known them for a lifetime, and even then some things are best kept private.
No.4 Porn is just Porn. Unless it’s evil nasty stuff I wouldn’t feel too bad about it. Just do what you gotta do and get on with your life.
No.5 Don’t get Oneitis. So you got laid and it rocked your world. Newsflash! You’ll get laid again. Don’t stress over this one girl. There are plenty of Girls and most are pretty much the same to varying degrees of pleasantness or insanity.
No.5 Raising your Testosterone will help you feel better and more confident. Plenty of YouTube vids how to eat to raise Testosterone. Suprisingly Beer doesn’t help. It works against you so don’t rely on it. It’s also addictive.
No.6 Don’t be a Nice Guy. I too am naturally a Nice Guy but I have to fight against it. It gets you no where. You will get used and exploited by men and women alike. You don’t have to be an Asshole but don’t be a Yes Man either. No one will respect you.
No.7 Don’t believe what women tell you they “Want” They always lie cos’ they don’t want to admit their true nature to others or even themselves. Ignore what they say and observe how they act/what they actually do.
No.8 Don’t stress. You are young. You got plenty of time to sort things out. It may seem hard now but you will learn and find your own way in life. It will get better.
No.9 Don’t pay too much heed to other’s opinions of you. No one is perfect and who the f~~~ are they to shame and judge you? If you didn’t share your secrets no one would be able to throw shame at you. You think you’re a loser and everyone else is winning?? – Wrong Bro. Wrong We all struggle but the wise one’s don’t show their weaknesses.I hope you take a breath. Reflect and come good. You will be ok. You’re starting from a bad position but that’s not your fault. You were brought up in a f~~~ed up crazy anti male world and you gotta work around it.
It will all come good. Just takes time.
Be strong. Be silent, Blend in but Keep your own counsel.
The world is changing. You are part of the Future.
It's Time to get Wise
Not having a father, brother or male role models has left you a shell of human being.
Sadly, you and many others are a product of this upside down society.
I have no guidance to give you. Impossible to zap manliness into you.
Know that as a boy the men in my life were men. They carried two items with them on the job site. 1. Pain oil. 2. Cow salve.
Pain oil was used to disinfect germs, etc. If you survived 5 minutes after application you usually lived.
Cow salve was used to seal up potentially mortal wounds like chopping off a finger or gouging a leg.
Both were stop gaps in order to help you make it to a hospital.
Or, if you’re my grandfather, you cut off finger, out salve on it with a rag and continue working.
My brother looked up and a bird s~~~ on his forehead. Grandpa took out his snot rag, spat on it and wiped the s~~~ off.
You, on the other hand were raised by a woman. You habe no idea what you can do or become.
Only advice I have is to do nothing. Look inside grasshopper. Find the hulk inside and venture outside. Go with a roar. Be here with us and venture out.
Peace brothers
Before we give you “fresh advice” I have some homework prepared that helps if you watch it.
Video 1 through 48 is around 14 hours of golden wisdom, making the viewer see what is going on in our society and why things turn out the way they do.
https://archive.org/details/Man_Woman_Myth_Video_Archive
You feel better after that.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
This put me in a very bad place. I wanted to continue dating because sex feels good, but I didn’t want to feel so empty. I know it must sound stupid. But I feel there is no place for me anywhere. I know I’m a straight white dude, but these things still hurt me and I feel so alienated by society. I feel like I don’t belong. I also feel like I don’t understand what’s wrong from what’s right. I didn’t know giving a woman a compliment was something terrible, or that wanting to have sex was a crime. I’m constantly made to feel like I’m some rapist just because I find women attractive. It feels so absurd.
Alienated by society? Feel like you don’t belong, you say? I’m 51 years old and still feel this same s~~~ and you know what? It’s a damn good thing! F~~~ society! You don’t know right from wrong? You are right. Society is wrong.
Of course sex feels good. It feels damn good. Your problem is you got emotional and started caring for this bitch. When interacting with a female, there is always the possibility of bad s~~~ happening, but when you lose control of your emotions, you’re f~~~ed. I still have sexual urges, but I’m careful when having them gratified. Just got a blow job the other day, but I can’t stand the bitch. I got in, did what I had to do and got out. No caring. No emotions. Blew my wad on her t~~~, thanked her and left. You can’t feel empty if you don’t ever have feelings for them. F~~~ ’em and forget about ’em.
Most of your paragraph that I’m quoting here is me at your age and for many years of my life starting at high school. I always felt different. Couldn’t understand why people acted the way they did. It took me quite a long time to realize that me being different from society was good because most people in society are f~~~ed up, brainwashed sheep following the herd. Be happy that you’re not one of them. F~~~ people. You want to be a real man, then just be your own man. Don’t try to fit in with a society that’s so evil and dysfunctional and corrupt. Be separate from society. Set yourself apart.
It also took me way too long to realize that all women are no damn good. The best thing to do is stay far away from them, but if you need to satisfy an urge, do so carefully and do not have any feelings for them. You’re just there to use them for the only thing they’re good for and that’s it. Find you a good old whore who loves to suck dick and you’ll be doin’ good. I have one or two of those and we all know it’s just sex and that’s it.
You have a future and it’s just now starting to get good. You’ve been burnt and now you can begin again. You’ll get another job, probably better than the last one. You don’t need friends. You can do it on your own. S~~~, I’d like to have been where you are right now at that age, learning what you’re learning now, instead of being over half a century old feeling like I wasted the best years of my life because I was married for what should’ve been the best years of my life. Man, I’m excited for you. You have a beautiful hopeful future ahead of you and you’re gonna’ be great. You’re gonna’ look back on this time in your life and be grateful that you learned your lessons early on.
Look this s~~~ time that you’re going through right in the face and laugh at it and just pick yourself up and move on and be strong. I’ve been through many of them. Things always eventually get better. You’re gonna’ be alright.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Anonymous1I for one am really glad you’ve been rescued from a Thai cave. I hope the experience has provided you insite though am sure you didnt find your nuts in there.
Sometimes I read these posts and cant help wondering if a c~~~ has gotten into the wire, yes clearly yes, or some dude loves being spanked publicly, yes clearly yes.
I suggest learning about manhood by reading Japanese smut comics or Hentai. Man they can school you on how to be a man and how to treat women
You are at your 20s, your sexual desire is at the highest point. Your biology tells you to f~~~ ALL THE TIME. We all have been there.
MGTOW only stick after you have experienced with women and got burned. I would think that your experience, although bad, is a real lesson. Some went through many of such lessons to learn, hope that you don’t have to.
I would suggest you to read more about the truth of relationship/women. There are quite a few MUST READ, e.g. “the manipulated man”, etc. Go read them all. Think deeply and apply those truth/principle to your life. Gain wisdom and be disciplined. Gradually, you will sort all these out and have a very happy life, without the bondage of “women”.
Sex with a woman is good, but not worth it. Porn and fleshlight (or sexdoll) can fulfill most of the needs, imo, and keep your life in order.
Good luck, bro.
I know I’ve let you all down with my behavior.
Nope, I do not feel let down by you. There is no playbook on which path to find your way. You will have to figure out your way yourself.
listen to what Greg Honda wrote.
My advise: be extremely careful whom you talk to about MGTOW and the manosphere. But I take it, you have learned that lesson already.
Especially in a workplace environment, go stealth. Focus on self-improvement. your mantra right now: stealth, health, wealth – consider this a suggestion, not a definite solution or ultimate method to discover your own way."Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.
Forgiveness?
We’re not gods.
Chill out, it’s not the end of the world.
Money is God.
Welcome back buddy.
No self pity. You ain’t got time for that.
Take your lessons and move forward.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
I would suggest you to read more about the truth of relationship/women. There are quite a few MUST READ, e.g. “the manipulated man”, etc. Go read them all.
Here is a link to a website to Esther Vilar’s THE MANIPULATED MAN. If you have not already read it, do so. It will give you added insight into female behavior. You will stop valuing the opinion of that woman who supposedly humiliated you.
http://commons.wikimannia.org/images/Esther-Vilar_The-Manipulated-Man.pdf
Also, many have already told you society is crazy. You are trained to engage in behaviors that others in society can use to exploit you or put you into servitude or debt. Society does not care one whit if you are happy. That is what these guys are telling you. Another book that might offer some insight on this is Awareness by Anthony de Mello. You don’t need to focus on the religion in the book. It is his psychological insights that are more important.
Anthony de Mello: Awareness
http://arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/tonyawareness.pdf
Anonymous12what has “losing virginity” to do with “being a man”
?
F~~~, you really are lost.
Jesus H Christ Moses and Abraham!… I made the huge mistake of telling the one guy at the office, Alex, about MGTOW. I thought he would understand and that he might also get something positive from it. To my surprise he reacted in a completely opposite way.
Now you understand the importance of ghosting.
Simps, manginas, and Blue-Pillers are not your friends.
… I made the huge mistake of telling the one guy at the office, Alex, about MGTOW. I thought he would understand and that he might also get something positive from it. To my surprise he reacted in a completely opposite way.
Now you understand the importance of ghosting. The first rule of Fight Club is that you don’t talk about it.
Most sheeple aren’t going to get it if you try to talk to them about MGTOW. They’re too hypnotized by society and too busy following the herd.
“You MGTOW f~~~ers are weird……you’re not like everyone else…….ya’ gotta’ be like everyone else and settle down and find a nice girl…….conform……..”
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Dude you’re still young. You’ve got a future. I’m not a white male but I can honestly say society, especially white women are capping on you guys lately.
You don’t need our forgiveness for anything man. Your sex drive is natural. We all have it. We’re MEN. don’t go all blue pill hell.
Trust dude, most cooch all feels the same. Move on, take the L and learn from it. You’ll be fine Bro.
Cheers!
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I’ve been recently thinking I wanted to become more masculine, and to really embrace being a man without the need of women’s approval, but it’s very hard. I don’t know where to start. I never had a dad to take me hunting, or fishing, or to play ball. My mom didn’t let me have friends, so I never really played much outside. But I really wanted to. I wish I had strong men in my life to show me the way. I know I’m already 23, but I never felt like I got a chance to learn how to be a man and I feel so dumb and lost. I know that if I had had a father or a grandpa or uncles, or brothers I wouldn’t be feeling so sorry for myself in my apartment jacking off to porn and drinking beer. I’ve felt like my life has no meaning.
You need to find an intrest in life . There is so many things out there to hang out with other bros or things you can do on your own .
Rc clubs
I am not into rc off road cars but around where i live it has gotten real big in the last couple of years . A mate of mine is into it . Guys have built tracks in yards and on properties . They all get together .
Me . I dont like being around people . I do it 2 hours of the day and thats it . Peoples vioces i dont like .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
I don’t judge you or anyone else here for that matter. There’s a higher power that oversees that. It’s above my pay grade.
Welcome back.Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
But I haven’t met any guys in the real world that want to be friends and do guy things.
Do you play Diablo III or Age of Empires II on steam? Not sure if it qualifies as a “guy thing” or whatever, but I love gaming, and I’m always looking for new friends to play with. If you want someone to talk to, we can kill demons and talk about all sorts of s~~~ (and I happen to know a ton of s~~~). Plus, I don’t have a girlfriend to waste my time, and my sex doll keeps her mouth shut while I’m gaming.
Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.
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