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Hello guys, I’m a 25-year-old guy living in California. I discovered the site last night through and Uber driver who told me about MGTOW after one of the most horrible nights of my life. I’ve read through the site and I’m so happy that in these dark times this site exists.
I’m ashamed to say it, but at 25 I’m still a virgin. Last night that was supposed to change, but, of course, the woman I was dating had a different plan. I honestly didn’t know about a lot of the things that most of you guys are so knowledgeable about, like the red pill stuff, the emasculation of men all over the world, and the way women treat men that never gets addresses in the media or anywhere.
I grew up without a father. I was raised by my mother, my aunts, and my grandma, who I love dearly, but I know that was not the right environment for a boy to grow up. I’ve never been to a shrink but I’m sure that a lot of the insecurity and challenges I’ve had as a young man come from the fact that I didn’t have a male figure in my life, a mentor, or an older brother.
I’m also an only child.
I grew up listening to women’s problems, their preoccupations, and witnessing some of their toxic behaviors. My mother had numerous boyfriends while I was growing up, but none of them ever stayed long. I don’t blame them, it was her fault for sleeping around.
I feel like I was cage by whole childhood. I was never allowed to go out and play with kids in the neighborhood. Of course, in school I was quite and afraid and I was bullied. I slowly became more and more shy and isolated. And the women at home became more overbearing. When I was 18 I left home, but I guess the damaged was already done.
It was always hard for me to talk to the other dudes at my job and even harder to talk to women or go on dates. I started using dating websites, but I never had much success. I don’t think I’m a ugly dude, but I guess I’m not up to women’s standards. I have an OK job, but I’m not rich or have tons of money to throw around. But it seems that modesty and just being a good man is not enough for women.
I understand that perhaps I’m the problem, that I lack confidence, or that I should be more assertive, but I was never taught how to be that way. I was thought to be quiet and to never really be myself. At some point I even felt like just ashamed for being a man. I feel like society makes us feel guilty for simply being men, and that’s really f~~~ed up. Like we have to be carefully with everything we say or do. Is frustrating.
Occasionally I did go on a couple dates with girls I met online but they never seem interested in a second date, and if I would text them or ask if they wanted to hang out they replied like if I was being creepy. I don’t think that asking for a second date or hanging out was a terrible thing. So I guess that whatever little confidence I had started eroding with each failed attempt at dating. I’m a guy, and though sadly I’m a virgin, I, of course, wanted to have sex. If it wasn’t because of that urge I would have completely stopped trying. I apologize if my story is dumb. I just have never opened up like this.
Now for the worst part. A couple months ago I stared talking to a co-worker. She seemed nice. I found her attractive and seemed like she was interested in me. We went for coffee and lunch a couple times.
Eventually I found the courage to ask her out and she said yes. We started dating, but she would never want to stay at my place or for me to stay at hers, which I felt like it was a rejection to anything sexual. But I thought that would change the more we got to know each other and that eventually if things worked out we would take our relationship to the next level. After a month or so of dating, like an idiot, I told her I had never had sex. She seemed understanding.
She promise we would have sex and that it would be special or whatever. This weekend was supposed to be that special weekend. We were supposed to take a weekend trip. I got us a nice hotel. I tried to be romantic or whatnot. On Friday night when I was going to pick her up she didn’t answer her phone and eventually she sent me a text saying she didn’t want to go anymore.
I asked why and I was very upset. She said she wasn’t feeling well, but she also didn’t want to see me that day. Yesterday, after trying to get in touch with her the whole day I went to her place. She came out and just told me to leave her alone that she didn’t want to see me anymore and that if I tried to approach her she would tell everyone at work that I’m a virgin.
I can’t even explained how f~~~ing miserable I felt. Like if someone had punched me in the gut and all the air had left my body. I couldn’t believe it. That s~~~ wrecked me mentally. I went on a drinking binge, by myself cuz I don’t really have friends, and I just got s~~~ faced. I’m not going to lie, I cried a little. They were tears of anger. I was so upset. I felt betrayed, played, and humiliated. It made me never want to deal with a woman ever again. At the end of the night I took an Uber home and the driver told me about MGTOW after I told him what had happened. He told me that his ex-wife had left him bankrupt and that now he had to drive Uber to make ends meet. There was a kinship in our pain I guess. I felt like he understood what I was going through.
Anyway, I’m very happy I found this site. Last night I felt so hopeless. I even wondered if this s~~~ society was even worth living in or if I should just blow my brains out. So I’m happy that this site exists and that there are many other men that are here sharing their stories and spreading knowledge. I can’t change the s~~~ childhood and youth I’ve had, but maybe I can be a better man now that my eyes have been opened. I live in the LA are. Not sure if you guys ever meet in person, but I would sure love some mentors or likeminded bros to hang out in the real world too. But for now I look forward to chatting with all you here.
Welcome DisenchantedBro
Pull yourself a nice chair and enjoy the Forums!
At the wee hours you posted your intro it might take a little while for the others to welcome you, but don’t worry they will. Welcome again and hang in there.
I grew up without a father. I was raised by my mother, my aunts, and my grandma, who I love dearly, but I know that was not the right environment for a boy to grow up. I’ve never been to a shrink but I’m sure that a lot of the insecurity and challenges I’ve had as a young man come from the fact that I didn’t have a male figure in my life, a mentor, or an older brother.
You must own a better Crystal ball than I
Anonymous42I don’t think I’m a ugly dude, but I guess I’m not up to women’s standards.
Repeat after ME!:
WOMEN. HAVE. NO. STANDARDS. They wander aimlessly with the mighty arm of government and the law to protect their fickle nature and destroy ours from the inside out.
Wake up sunshine, you have enemies and they’re not who the media tells you they are, they’re ALLOT CLOSER TO HOME and smell like fish!
At some point I even felt like just ashamed for being a man
You’ve been indocrinated and brainwashed into the biggest lie ever perpetuated, along with the largest heist of cash ever to go from one group to another group that did less than nothing to
earnSTEAL it!Your mind, heart, and soul are repairable but it’s gonna take allot of reprogramming and soldering new connections in your mind.
THERE’S NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU! IT WAS THEM ALL THE TIME! Their message has spread like a cancer that is utterly and literally killing the entire Western World!
They deliver death and you have been given a belly full!
You’re at the right place to get your stomach pumped and an IV drip.
Anonymous42She came out and just told me to leave her alone that she didn’t want to see me anymore and that if I tried to approach her she would tell everyone at work that I’m a virgin.
If you EVER talk to that F~~~ING C~~~ again I will digitally PUNCH YOU IN THE F~~~ING HEAD!
If you EVER talk to that F~~~ING C~~~ again I will digitally PUNCH YOU IN THE F~~~ING HEAD!
Tower is talking with what they call Tough Love 🙂 He means very well!
You must own a better Crystal ball than Iwelcome brother.
we have all been stood up for a date.
and it can feel devastating.
here you are welcome,
and you will see that YOU are the prize to be had,
NOT the woman!
as mgtower said,
do not deal with that woman again.
she lied to you and doesn’t deserve a second chance.
..you are young,
you have a long life ahead of you.
focus on yourself,
and in a few years the women will be practically trying to tear off your clothes!!!
so stay calm and carry on ..
you matter to us.
we need all the men we can get to understand the new ideology,
the red pill knowledge .
don’t blame yourself for the conditioning you went through.
just give yourself time to learn and grow .
stay strong my friend,
we are here for you.I know ya a young fella and sounds like ya really want a f~~~ + relationship .
Okay lets start with the f~~~ part . Simple get a hooker . Cheap and safe as far as pregnancy entrapment . Add the money up ya spent for that night .
This is the don’t get f~~~ed over part . RELATIONSHIP. With out you saying s~~~ this is what ya after (F~~~ i want to puke). You think your hurting now f~~~ bro imagine two months down the track when ya finding out this full of s~~~ princess is a multi c~~~ slot machine . Codependency leads to the dark side . Learn to not be codependent and learn to love ya self , be ya self . A woman will lead to pain suffering arguing f~~~ing pure misery . This little c~~~ has shown her true colours be thankful for that . If ya into torture go wright ahead . Sit back and watch this chicks life f~~~ing drama show unfold over time . You don’t need a woman to be a man .
F~~~ there is some major red pill rebuild needs doing here . I just can’t text what i am trying to say .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Seriously bro . You will walk past this chick in a couple of year’s and say thank f~~~ i never did that
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
The safest box to f~~~ around with is an Xbox. Lol
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Mate don’t beat ur self up over it. I didn’t get layed a lot when I was young, I had a girlfriend for a few years but the sex was fairly tame and the pain of being treated like s~~~ and eventually dumped just left a sour impression.
A few hookers (legal in oz) here and there kept me going through my 20s,and a few trips to Thailand, Colombia or Brazil will get you better sex than begging for it in the west. YMMV, but at 40, I’d rather peace to piece, and am lucky to chase a root more than once a year. I find just rubbing one out at home more satisfying than a bad lay.
Hang in there bro, and maybe check out a r&t massage parlour, but don’t spend all ur hard earned dollars on chasing the golden vaj, invest in yourself, pursue a hobby or passion, wise up.
"Society is to blame" Denton
Anonymous42That f~~~ing c~~~ is an EMOTIONAL TERRORIST! AN EMOTIONAL EXTORTIONIST! AND ALL AROUND F~~~ED IN THE BRAIN BUCKET C~~~!
I see a Robbin Williams WIFE!
She’s got him emotionally sabotaged wondering what’s better, LIFE OR DEATH!
BEEN THERE UNDER THE SPELL A MANIPULATIVE HEARTLESS C~~~!
THIS BITCH IS DANGLING ONE OF HIS EMOTIONAL SECRETS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AT WORK TO MANIPULATING HIM, TAMING HIM, BREAKING HIM, I HOPE THE F~~~ SHE HITS A GOD DAMNED BRIDGE ABUTMENT! THEN HAS A TEN WHEEL DUMP TRUCK HAULING STONE CRUSH HER INTO THE F~~~ING BRIDGE ABUTMENT!
Seriously bro . You will walk past this chick in a couple of year’s and say thank f~~~ i never did that
Listen to brother blade. Blade knows best, he’s tied over a judicial burner having his flesh fried just like me!
Trust us bro, there’s a way better life beyond living with the emotional terrorism coming from the worst batch of women history has ever allowed to exist!
There’s blue skies just beyond the horizon! The MGTOW EVENT HORIZON! You’re standing on the threshold, come on in!
Oh yer this little c~~~ is a real piece of work . I see her using this as a baseball bat on this young bro .
Beleave in you . Be proud of been a virgin . I wish i was .
Learn to not give a f~~~ what people think of you . If people know you worry what they think of you they will use it against you . F~~~ em f~~~ what they think . You now have mgtow armour . Don’t give a f~~~
You will have the last laugh trust me .
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Hello guys
Hello Sir. Glad to welcome you. You gave a lot to work with here. Thank you for putting it down.
Uber driver who told me about MGTOW
Excellent.
I’m ashamed to say it, but at 25 I’m still a virgin
Let’s start there.
Why? Are you ashamed of never having poured concrete? Are you ashamed you never composed an Opera? Then why are you ashamed you never squirted in a female? It’s not like it’s some great accomplishment. So you successfully avoided a pregnancy and a possible STD. Congratulations. That’s something to throw a party about.
( You follow? No need to reply to this. Just think about it)
• harder to talk to women or go on dates
• I started using dating websites, but I never had much success.
• I guess I’m not up to women’s standards
• But it seems that modesty and just being a good man is not enough for women.
• I lack confidence, or that I should be more assertive,^^ You see all that s~~~?? ^^
All of those points have one thing in common. . . .
They all hinge on the FEMALE opinion of you.The first step to establishing self confidence is — >> to DROP the confidence you place in other people/ women that determine what you’re “good enough” for. The female approval seeking mentality has GOT to go. You’re not REQUIRED to live “up to women’s standards”. Isn’t that the best news of all?
Take a look at this woman’s “standards”.
Just being a good man is not “good enough” for her? WHO CARES.
is it really his fault that she would prefer to be mistreated?Imagine if it were your JOB to “live up to women’s standards”. What a colossal nightmare. The only thing you should care about – if at all – is whether or not she lives up to YOUR standards. You establish those standards yourself. No women does. Until she makes an effort to mean something to you, she means NOTHING to you, and so does her “rejection”.
It’s not your responsibility to be the man a woman wants.
Its your responsibility to be the man YOU always wanted to BE.Best news of the day.
At some point I even felt like just ashamed for being a man. I feel like society makes us feel guilty for simply being men, and that’s really f~~~ed up. Like we have to be carefully with everything we say or do. Is frustrating.
Don’t let the title put you off… just listen to this. It’s about understanding that you have been CONDITIONED to be insecure about all these things.
Eventually I found the courage to ask her out and she said yes
Can you see 3 serious problems within that sentence?
Take a second and look at it again.1. It doesn’t require “courage”. When you see a piece of dogs~~~ on the street and you are not interested in picking it up, talking to it , or playing with it. Does that mean you lack the COURAGE? Or are you simply not interested?? Get it out of your head that you need “courage” to “ask a woman out”.
2. Stop “asking” women out. If anything, TELL her she should go out with you, or you’re going to a movie, and she’s welcome to join you. But if you “ASK”, you’re hingeing your good time tonight on her “yes” or “no”. You’re “asking” for her permission. Stop doing it.
Fist rule of sales. If you give someone a chance to say “no”, they usually WILL. So whenever you speak to women, remove the question mark. Don’t “ask”. Make the statement.
3. She said “yes”. She thinks you need her permission. By asking, or incentivizing her with a movie or a meal, you just told her you think she wouldn’t go out with her UNLESS you made some kind of offer and “asked”.
“Say, can I get your number? and is to OK if I call you sometime?”
— OR —
“Put your number in my phone”.
Shocking difference.
Now for the worst part. A couple months ago I stared talking to a co-worker. She seemed nice. I found her attractive and seemed like she was interested in me. We went for coffee and lunch a couple times.
Don’t EVER date a woman you work with. EVVVVVEERRRRRRR.
No lunches. No coffee. No speaking to women at work about anything other than WORK.
Starting tomorrow, that’s your professional policy.
Anyone who has a problem with that is UN-professional.She promise we would have sex and that it would be special or whatever. This weekend was supposed to be that special weekend. We were supposed to take a weekend trip. I got us a nice hotel. I tried to be romantic or whatnot. On Friday night when I was going to pick her up she didn’t answer her phone and eventually she sent me a text saying she didn’t want to go anymore. I can’t even explained how f~~~ing miserable I felt. Like if someone had punched me in the gut and all the air had left my body. I couldn’t believe it. That s~~~ wrecked me mentally.
This is NOT devastating. LISTEN UP. OK so you pumped it up in your mind that YAY! you are gonna get laid, and she flaked. F~~~ing what else is new. The flake rate on women is 75% at least. Expect it.
Half of this was a s~~~ test to see if you would actually do it – go through the trouble of booking a hotel and a “special weekend”. You do that after a YEAR with her, maybe. Not before the first time. Women who want to have sex with you will do it on air mattress in an empty apartment with no furnishings while eating take out $3 chinese from a cardboard box.
In doing this, you elevated her perception of herself and her own value to such phenomenal heights, and through no fault of your own she thinks “What do I need THIS guy for?? I can do MUCH better than him!!”
You tried to tell her “she’s special” when she isn’t yet….. and contrary to your intent, it actually communicates you don’t think she would have sex with you UNLESS you booked an hotel and special weekend first.
It’s a lesson. Thats’ ALL it is.
You’ll feel 10000X better when you don’t give a f~~~ about her approval.
And you’ll save a s~~~load on hotels too.—
You said you didn’t have a Dad around. That means you missed out on some very valuable “Tough Love”. Tough love puts it to your directly with no apology and it’s very rigid and firm because the content is VALUABLE. It doesn’t need to be sugar-coated because that’s not good for you.
Being direct is good for you.
When a man tells me to “shut the f~~~ up and listen” I know I’m about to learn something of VALUE. Try and tell a woman that, and she thinks you’re being cruel. Nobody here – including myself – is interested in that. We only want you to see that this is NOT A LOSS for you.
You missed out on NOTHING – except maybe a nice weekend away in a hotel by yourself. If you wouldn’t go on that special weekend in a hotel by YOURSELF . . . . never do it just for a woman again. Had you booked it for yourself and invited her along, she may have even come with you! But the important part of that is knowing you would go by yourself and have a good time – with or without her “permission”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.… and one more thing “Disenchanted” Bro…..
“Enchanted” used to be something men would say to women when meeting them for the very first time. Then he would lean DOWN and kiss her hand. There is a reason men don’t do that anymore – because there is nothing to be “enchanted” about.
If you don’t permit yourself to be “enchanted” for no real reason….
Then you can’t possibly be dis-enchanted when you find out she’s not all that.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.That f~~~ing c~~~ is an EMOTIONAL TERRORIST! AN EMOTIONAL EXTORTIONIST! AND ALL AROUND F~~~ED IN THE BRAIN BUCKET C~~~!
THIS BITCH IS DANGLING ONE OF HIS EMOTIONAL SECRETS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE AT WORK TO MANIPULATING HIM, TAMING HIM, BREAKING HIM, I HOPE THE F~~~ SHE HITS A GOD DAMNED BRIDGE ABUTMENT! THEN HAS A TEN WHEEL DUMP TRUCK HAULING STONE CRUSH HER INTO THE F~~~ING BRIDGE ABUTMENT!
Watch and listen to the men on here.. they will show you how to deal with this. Tower has a Very colorful approach I must admit it 👍
You must own a better Crystal ball than IDisenchantedBro,
I am 33 years old and a virgin and will keep it that way till the day I leave this planet. I don’t give a s~~~ about what others think. Society has made you feel ashamed of yourself. Getting laid is not an achievement.
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
I can see from what you have said about your child hood . From misfortunes comes knowledge . Knowledge of right and wrong you can see this where some grow up and can’t see it and the mistake is repeated . You sound smart as far as emotions go .
Every day the sun comes up is a new day
What hobbies or other s~~~ do you like doing ?
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Looks like DisenchantedBro went to bed already, oh well.
You must own a better Crystal ball than I
Anonymous42I think Disenchanted bro is passed out cold from walking in circles this weekend with his head emotionally planted up his ass by none other than; A WOMAN!
I hope the Dissed bro sticks around and shoves his head deep into MGTOW related material, I think there’s hope for him, like Neo when he went into the Matrix and got all those combat programs loaded directly into his brain.
Hey Disenchanted bro, You’re one of the best candidates for a MGTOW brain transplant and reload I’ve seen come along in a while. Your candid honesty is the key to clearing out all the decades of feminist pollution contaminating the inside of your head.
You sir, stepped into a God Sent!
Tower has a Very colorful approach I must admit it
Hey Macho, they have their RAINBOW, I HAVE MINE!
Looks like DisenchantedBro went to bed already, oh well.
He’ll be fine in the morning, and the replies waiting will be like Christmas morning.
You all did him a fine service here tonight.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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