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Anonymous11Homo: You’re right on target.
I once shot some video of my drunken friend. A spent a few minutes selecting exactly what I wanted to portray. It was funny as hell, but he wanted to knock my block off for what I did to him as it had maybe 10% of the truth.
I also edit video from one of my sporting activities. I can convert 30 minutes of boredom into 10 minutes of something that looks like I’m the most on the edge dangerous fool you’ve ever met. I’m just an amateur with amateur equipment. Never underestimate the power of editing.
BP’s points are spot on too.
Never underestimate the power of editing.
Oh yeah, I do know about editing very well, too. It can be a “devil’s tool”.
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Absolutely editing is the devil’s tool. It’s probably the most sophisticated form of lying both by commission and omission, and both at the same time! Watch yourself Tim!
Anonymous42I’ve been on TV a couple of times, and they NEVER treat you fairly (at least in the western media)
I was humiliated in the news paper, for telling the truth! Justice was not served!
This nation is headed to hell; THANK-YOU mass media, your efforts shall be rewarded. Where are the newspapers now? They’re right here! Just read the print! I’m now a writer, not just a reader.
Where is television headed? It’s on YOU-TUBE, just read the comments below the videos, the videos that regular Joe produced.
MuchImmeasurably set to a higher standard than all the gynocentric lies YOU have been feeding US, and calling it truth. Lies always get exposed, liars just fade away…………..“You” (mass-media), were roaring like a dinosaur in years past, your end is well deserved, and past due. You’re DEAD in my home, you no longer exist, YOU are EXTINCT!
Hmm, very true points, John and CPig. Then again I guess we can all at least respect Tim’s courage <span style=”font-family: Thread-00006dd0-Id-0000023b;”>not</span> to have declined.
People risk their lives and reputations over anything. It is not an issue of courage. It is an issue of entering an unnecessary battle, that is on unnecessary ground, where the enemy has an advantage.
Tim will be used as a means to an end for Dr. Phil and for feminism. Especially with the issue of rape being a forefront topic. Women think about sex, as much if not more than men. The imagery of a women raping a man, would further imprint their missplaced understanding of women as sexually dominant. They are not inviting you on the show to prove how men are treated unjustly, they are putting you on the show to prove the dominance of women. Women will come out of this not knowing what man to look up to if they are fundamentally that weak. Women do not care a thing about virtue, past what there fathers taught them. And most, if not all, of these women have s~~~ty fathers. What are women expected to do after the information is made present? If anything they will view men as weaker than before. This will further motivate them for personal and political power grabs.
My question, to Tim, is what does he expect will happen when he presents his findings? And I want to hear from Tim himself. What do you really expect Tim? What ideal victory do you expect to come from this?
Because in my personal opinion, and it is a personal opinion, you could be doing us more harm than good.
Hear hear MG-Tower!
Anonymous11Feminism is not adults seeking to be treated equally. It’s spoiled children in adult bodies throwing irrational tantrums in order to get some unearned benefit that they want by screaming that they are oppressed and demonizing the providers of it if they are not given it in exchange for reciprocating exactly nothing.
If that fails, they unleash the White Knights. Feminism defined in two eloquent sentences by BP.
Tim, I do admire your bravery, but I think John outlined quite well what your strategic situation will be too. Seriously, you’re going into a bunch of entitlement minded spoiled children to argue that men are oppressed.
Even if you’re decimate them to shreds during the taping, they’ll edit you into looking like a creepy misogynistic hater which I am sure you are not. Women do not want to discuss men’s oppression. It would shatter their princess delusions.
@MG-Tower- Man, I thought I dated some freaks. Wow!!!
Again, I have to agree with Chauvinist here. It’s one thing to have courage, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have to choose our battles, and the ground on which we fight them, carefully. You may, as Chauvinist says, win the battle in the studio, but you’ll lose it in the editing room.
Never underestimate the power of editing.
Yes, the old “Chop-n-Screw” is a very real thing. Phil is also one slick customer, do not under estimate him. There are several ways to handle this, I am not sure there is even a good way to go about it. You would most definitely will be walking into “The Lion’s Den” . Chances are even if you do it and never play into their hands they will simply not air it if they can’t make you look like a fool.
Anybody here remember when Paul Elam got interviewed by 20/20? Yeah me neither, because it never aired. You can see bits of it on Youtube, he was boring and unconvincing. He sat there like a lump of s~~~ and gave factual answers, it was never aired. So be prepared for this, I guarantee should you shine on the world will never see it.
You are there to be badgered, and shamed, then ridiculed before the world should you lose your cool. This is exactly what they want, you… frustrated and cornered. Either that or cowering and p~~~ing down your leg scared. This is what they really want, so they can assure the western woman that MGTOW are either angry or scared. Then we’ll be written off and roll credits.
Good thing we as MGTOW don’t give a s~~~ what anyone in the media thinks about us. It’s not like they were catering to us anyway, I mean as men we don’t watch daytime TV, we’re at work.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Hey CPig on that last note of yours
Even if you’re decimate them to shreds during the taping, they’ll edit you into looking like a creepy misogynistic hater which I am sure you are not. Women do not want to discuss men’s oppression. It would shatter their princess delusions.
And I am still thinking very diligently about ideas how to make it best work for Tim (sort of trying to think in writing here right now) hmmm, what if (just hypothetically) Tim was to cancel quite close to the date of the show very clearly and firmly stipulated by himself, unless he was to be given an original uncut copy of the show…? I mean… … as I said just thinking out “loudly” here…
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Tim should just drop it now. GTFO.
They will not bring it up publically because nobody knows about this except Tim, Us, and parts of the Dr. Phil Crew.
Everyone keeps forgetting how they went to him. They are the initiators and have a plan on how they will handle him. They have all the cards in this instance. They already know what angles he will be coming from and how to respond. They would not go to him unless they can get some use out of him. And knowing the Dr. Phil show, it will be feminist oriented.
This would be the best time for a strategic draw back on Tim’s side. Unless they advertised him publicly as coming, they have no reason to bring him up, so they have no reason to “attack” him publicly. Dropping out would be a win-win.
The best way of dealing with women is to ignore them.
Anonymous11@Ned: I’m sure they have the best attorneys money can buy and boilerplate contracts that preclude everything under the Sun.
Like Smitty said:
Yes, the old “Chop-n-Screw” is a very real thing. Phil is also one slick customer, do not under estimate him. There are several ways to handle this, I am not sure there is even a good way to go about it. You would most definitely will be walking into “The Lion’s Den” . Chances are even if you do it and never play into their hands they will simply not air it if they can’t make you look like a fool.
I think they want Tim to take the bait to make him into raw meat . When is the last time anyone has ever seen anything positive about men on TV in the last few years? Crickets…….
We all think we can sit there and make a rational argument as the facts are with us. However, you cannot out argue emotions. The audience would bum rush the stage if they had the b~~~~ to put me on there. I’d insist it would have to be live too. I’d take 150 wenches kicking my ass to make them look bad.
@ Ned Trent: They’d probably never agree to that, much less a waiver on his right to air that version, but then at least they’d be revealed for what they are, and he could cancel doing the “interview,” because at that point it will be apparent that it’s not an interview, but just a bit of theater to make the sisterhood feel good about itself.
but then at least they’d be revealed for what they are, and he could cancel doing the “interview,” because at that point it will be apparently that it’s not an interview, but just a bit of theater to make the sisterhood feel good about itself.
Yep you got it, man. That was exactly my line of thought: either way Tim could win no matter what they decide. Think of it a bit like a poker game here almost like (not even verbally) raising the all underlying core question: “Ok, so just how desperate are they really to have him on the show in the first place…?”
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
Anonymous11The only reason they want him is for their benefit. We’re all following the trail from there. Homo’s idea would be cool of it could be done, but nothing is done w/o a contract.
@ John Doe: Hear hear… that’s absolutely the case. Television media is not about journalism, it’s about propaganda, ratings, and making the host look good and reasonably intelligent, which in Dr. Phil’s case, I’m sure, has to be a daily challenge. But I’m with you; there’s nothing to be gained and they would not have contacted Tim without a game plan in mind. In fact, I’ll you you one further: the powers that be have to be aware that MGTOW is growing, and have to be concerned about nipping it in the bud now. What better way than to smear it on TV on an “objective” show like Dr. Blue Phil?
@ Chavinist: Well yea. That was my point: good luck getting that kind of contract out of that kind of show. It won’t happen, unless he’s got a really good agent.
Anonymous11@Homo: Screwed, blued and tattooed as Dad use to say.
I’d say a snowball’s chance in hell of getting that waiver. Plus, the could easily replace him with Bob the mangina who follows the vagenda with absolute unquestioning perfection, and he does all of the housework plus brings her flowers on Women’s Day which is tomorrow so don’t forget to mark those calendars.
lol! You know it!
In fact, I’ll you you one further: the powers that be have to be aware that MGTOW is growing, and have to be concerned about nipping it in the bud now. What better way than to smear it on TV on an “objective” show like Dr. Blue Phil?
It is a strong possibility and I do not disagree entirely. With that being said, I will stick with my interpretation. The victimhood of men means the empowerment of women. The first few levels of feminism pointed out women as victims. With the wage gap disappearing, women’s legal rights in court, and women gaining more political control, feminism can stop playing the victim card and go on the offensive.
You have to look at this from a subliminal perspective and not at face value. Women will walk away thinking about the capability of women having the power of raping men. They will not go away reciting facts to themselves or seeking justice for men. The thought that will be in the back of their minds will be how a vagina can subjugate and dominate a penis. There is nothing deep to this topic. It all breaks down to what is on top. The penis? Or the vagina? And with the subject of male rape it is the vagina.
Women will walk away with a feeling of “power”. As I previously stated, women think about sex as much or more than men. The idea of a “woman on top” calling out the shots will give the audience the impression that women “should have been in charge all along.” This is a side tactic of feminism. Attack the weaker males to show female superiority. And women relate to all reality through their sexuality.
There is nothing that grabs a woman’s attention more than the subject of “rape”. Rape implies dominance of one sex over the other. If they bring Tim up, it will not be to show how men are being raped. It will be shown how women have the capability to rape.
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