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A quote I have taken from here:
“You either love women or you understand them.”
After 10+ years / several LTRs I have understood them enough. They want everything you have and your retirement. In exchange you want their hole. No thanks.
It gets old and/or boring anyway.
“Women age like cars not like houses” -Patrice O Neal
Women don’t understand love, but as long as you do what your told, live by their rules etc… she’ll love you for a while at least until shes fed up and wants to ride the c~~~ carousel and repeat the same s~~~ over and over again.
Back in the days of my youth, I recall thinking to myself…I am MR Invisible. I couldn’t get the time of day, let alone a date or get laid…
And I fell for the trap. Kept hearing to man up and show that you have something to offer & bring to the table, etc…
So, I decided to do that. I got myself some cool ass clothes, a Dodge Stealth, and Bam & Shazzam!! I was having them coming at me out of the woodwork.
But, after the new found attention wore off, I realized I was still me, and they only loved what they could take from me…and take they did. (The last one is still taking).
I relate to what you shared, and know the feelings & thoughts all too well. I went round and round within myself for over 35yrs of my life with it.
But, I am unable to love someone I do not respect, and as best I can tell, there is not a “woman” left on this planet…just females.
With all of the knowledge I have gained in regards to women’s nature and our current legal & social system, I have checked out of all the razzle & dazzle BS.
I am too disengaged with them to be bothered and am far too invested in myself now.
I finally have the ability to love myself.
Someone said “you can either love women or understand them”
“You can either love women, or understand women. You can’t do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love.” –Elric Greenstone
That is the most enlightening quote I have ever read in my life. It packed with philosophical and calming tone, but sharp enough to pierce women’s thick skulls.
The only women that I love are in the ideal world. (It’s irrelevant but I just want to say it anyway: Young and attractive looking, no piercing or tattoo, natural hair, fair skin tone, good in cooking, loyal, honor her words, and polite. That is my ideal girl.) Unfortunately, I’m living in the real world and I accept things the way they are. At first, I’d become repulsive of women in the real world because they are nothing like my ideal woman. However, I feel indifferent about them gradually.
I have been like this since 18 years old and I don’t feel bad about it. It’s in human nature to feel attracted to what we like and feel repulsed to what we don’t like.
I swear im one epiphany away from going monk!
When it happens, please start a thread and share. I want to make sure I drink and celebrate.
Seriously, I have been mgtowmonk for over 4 yrs now…
It by far, has/is one of the most liberating and freeing milestones in my life.
Awaiting the celebration in eager anticipation.
I swear im one epiphany away from going monk!
When it happens, please start a thread and share. I want to make sure I drink and celebrate.
I’m on the edge of the cliff as we speak.
Seriously, I have been mgtowmonk for over 4 yrs now…It by far, has/is one of the most liberating and freeing milestones in my life.
Awaiting the celebration in eager anticipation.
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
I do not wish to highjack the thread, but I really am speaking from the depth of my being on this. I was so enslaved to the vagina & the power (effect?) it had over me.
It started in 6th grade for me. I still remember her name, and her face is hazy, but I still recall some of it, even now. AND, I will be 48 this year!
The last female burned me beyond words that I could express in any short form, but it was the catalyst for my monk-epiphany.
I went from being the hopeless romantic of about 30ish yrs, in pursuit of my soulmate & love, to a mgtow-realist.
With all the BS they pulled on me, it still is a wonder to me, on why I had to learn the hard way. Let alone, why it took 2 divorces and a plethora of legal BS, for I finally had my epiphany…
May yours come without the hefty costs that mine had on it. Still, as bittersweet as it is for me, I am grateful that I had it, and was able to finally overcome that which I was enslaved to & an indentured servant of, for the bulk of my life.
I don’t care how much I enjoy a good steak…it is not even lackluster, once it goes bad, and has maggots festering in it.
When I think of trying to have a sexual encounter with any female, this is the feeling in my “gut” that I get, and suffice to say, it is a major turn-off for me to say the absolute least.
Then, factoring in all the other variables:
1. Possible rape charge
2. Possible STD(s)
3. Possible oops baby (spawn)
4. Possible that she has a WK/Mangina that she can get to do her bidding…
5. And the unknown of how psycho-bats~~~ crazy her bidding will be(come) and how willing her Wk/Mangina are to carry out her bidding
6. And the list goes on…..almost without end it seems.It is the sweetest freedom I have ever known. I have no words to describe it. Of course I am a man & the biological urge to have that pleasure is still there…but the stakes & risks are just
TOO DAMN HIGH
For me personally anyway, to even kid myself on being involved with one again. I kept thinking I was just going through some weird phase, but it’s going on 5yrs soon, and my resolve to continue monkmgtow has never been stronger.
With how things are going in our world, I don’t foresee that changing.
TL;DR I can push you over the cliff…if you want that epiphany sooner, instead of later 😀
Then, factoring in all the other variables:
1. Possible rape charge
2. Possible STD(s)
3. Possible oops baby (spawn)
4. Possible that she has a WK/Mangina that she can get to do her bidding…
5. And the unknown of how psycho-bats~~~ crazy her bidding will be(come) and how willing her Wk/Mangina are to carry out her bidding
6. And the list goes on…..almost without end it seems.It is the sweetest freedom I have ever known. I have no words to describe it. Of course I am a man & the biological urge to have that pleasure is still there…but the stakes & risks are just
TOO DAMN HIGH
Its sad when it comes down to this, but I’m right there with you. Whenever people ask me crap like when am I going to find a nice girl for myself or get married I just think never, why would I do that? Its the same reaction I’d have if someone asked me when I’m going to headbutt a brick wall.
You’re not supposed to “love” her until she has made an effort to be lovable.
It’s not that you don’t have the ability… the woman has lost the ability to be lovable.Great words. Women today have lost the ability to be lovable. Cold, deceitful, manipulative creatures all of them. Particularly the “nice” ones.
A part of me would enjoy the company of an attractive, lovable lady. But then logic and experience take over and this foolish notion is put to rest. I’m a little embarrassed about the number of times I was burned in my blue pill days. I spent a literal fortune on these bitches. Not to mention time wasted and loss of tranquility.
After a few red pills, I was amazed at how peaceful and stress free life became.
I have become less and less interested in modern women. Too much hassle. I still will take a lady golfing on occasion, or watch old movies with one.
But I will never make myself vulnerable again.Is it just me, or have ladies gotten colder and colder? Thanks.
Favorited. This is a great thread which should be added to the Top Gun forum.
Is it just me, or have ladies gotten colder and colder? Thanks.
It’s not just you. Someone said recently if she doesn’t feel like a warm blanket get rid of her. I agree with that. Warm, friendly and smiling should be the norm, not this bitchy resting face women wear to match their abrasive and competitive attitudes. It’s true. They’ve lost ability.
Its sad when it comes down to this
Indeed it is.
Adding, regarding comment containing yoga pants, a buddy of mine was in an overseas hotel lobby.
There were a bunch of women in yoga pants. He took a look.
Shock.
That! is what yoga pants are supposed to look like, as opposed to the vast majority of American women look like they’ve got the bottom half of an obese male construction worker in theirs.
It was for him a true eye opener."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous5Cold, deceitful, manipulative creatures all of them. Particularly the “nice” ones.
Any idiot can see through the bar slags, slut walkers, stamped tramps, slobbery gobs and selfie-whores, but it’s the “Nice” ones that are lethal.
These “Nice” ones are playing the traditional game in a millennial legal and social system. These are the astute ones in serious business mode.
The vast majority of them are for real too, until they own you. Everything about their brain chemistry changes and nature and evolutionary survival strategy take over,,,,,and you’re left being a resource on her hamster mill,, trying to earn her approval and love for ever and ever and ever and ever
All wives start out as girlfriends.Is it just me, or have ladies gotten colder and colder? Thanks.
Its like every new c~~~ they take kills them on the inside a little bit more, and when they finally hit the wall, fall off the c~~~ carousel, and decide to settle down there is nothing left to love.
When your in a relationship it feels like a job because you have to try to keep her happy so she can keep loving you. But when your NOT in a relationship than you are free. As the saying goes “If You Don’t Like Isolation You Won’t Like Freedom Because You’re Only Truly Free When You Are Isolated.”
There is really no benefits for being in a relationship.But there are a lot of risks in being in a relationship. Why would you want to be in one just to feel something? It’s not worth it. I would rather not risk all I have because I don’t want to pay alimony or child support or owe her anything because she wakes up one day and wants to leave me just because.
I would like to know if any of you could relate to this.
I have absolutely zero ability to not only have any love for a woman……..but any kind of like for a woman. What I am trying to say here is that I still adore women’s bodies and have desires to do naughty things with them. But that is where it ends.
I was not always this way. I have been this way since age 27 and I am now going on 42 next month. And the older I get the more and more I feel this way.
It’s not so much hate, it’s just the complete inability to see a woman as ANYTHING but an object of sex.
I feel this way because I know what women are all about. Especially since joining MGTOW, I have my feelings confirmed about women. That they are f~~~ing snake oil salesman. That is what they are. Each and every last one of them. Not only that but they don’t have the guts to be honest and tell it like it is. No money, no honey. They can’t even be honest about what they are looking for in a man. They always say the same old bull s~~~. “I don’t care about money or muscles I just like a guy who will treat me right and be good friend.”
Most women reading this will think that I am just a sore loser. When in fact, that is not the case. The reason I feel no love or even like for women is because I can not have any feelings for someone who I know damn well is not a genuine person. Women are never genuine people.
I can completely relate and its one of the reasons that lead me to becoming Mgtow.
I don’t love women as a whole, I can still like a person as an individual whether I love someone depends on whether that person can love me genuinely back which unfortunately women nowadays are incapable of.
It’s perfectly normal to retain physical attraction to females, the mental and emotional attraction is what is hard. Feminist society makes it hard to do so however by shaming men for what is simply nature. It’s one the reason the porn industry thrives so well, much like the Geisha in Japan it serves to deliver a fantasy that we can’t get in reality. Your attracted to the female form because its not out to bitch and scold you, its there to give you comfort and to nourish your needs. Women these days have no interest in that. Women used to be the caregivers but nowadays its very disingenuous.
I’m 37 and yeah I feel the same way too.
One of the reasons you feel that you can’t connect is because Feminists make it so hard to interact with women they’ve taught girl to be self absorbed and to see men as the enemy to the point where decent interaction is nigh impossible. Female society only values men as symbols of status. Is he attractive, is he rich, does he serve my whims, or stroke my ego when i’m wrong. Feminism also teaches group think disallowing and critical or deviant thought. ie Wrong thought. Relationships should be equal not one sided, and if your not gonna be allowed your say than why bother. Your emotional and mental needs wont be met by people like that who want nothing more than an echo chamber.
The song Dear Future Husband by Meagan Trainor is perfect example of this and it just keeps getting worse.
It angers me when even if improved everything about me all i’m doing is serving someone else’s needs for someone who wouldn’t really give a s~~~ about me otherwise. Yet the standards of women’s beauty and how they treat men have lowered.
Why should any of us bother?
We didn’t lose the love for women, what happened was what we loved became something entirely different and undesirable. Its like remembering that burger joint you loved eating at so much, you can almost have this sympathetic reaction thinking about biting into it, your taste buds salivate at the thought. That memory makes you want to drive out and get that burger and you do so and you save up for that burger, you drive/walk down and take the effort to get that burger and when you get there its this dry flavorless piece of cardboard and you feel disappointed and unsatisfied because it isn’t that burger you remembered.
This is what it is like to desire a women these days.
That’s the “Red Pill” in my opinion. You can no longer believe in the fantasy that a woman is capable of loving you unconditionally. Once you accept the true nature of the female, you can no longer fall in love with one. The fantasy is what we, as men, were falling in love with. Once you accept the fact that the unicorn doesn’t exist, you can not go back. It is not a fault to see the truth. It was a fault to believe the lie.
Just my opinion.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
“Hate is not the opposite of love, indifference is.”
Exactly, brother.
Hate means you still care enough to hate. As men going our own way, we’re moving beyond caring or, more accurately, trying to move beyond caring. We no longer care, we no longer care enough to care, and, because we no longer care to care, we are indifferent.
Hating the behavior of women is like hating the rain or some other natural event. Hating or disliking the rain doesn’t make it change because the rain can’t change. All that can change is my response or reaction to the rain. I can go on hating the rain wasting my time and energy in irrational thought and sterile emotions. Or I can accept the rain for what it is and take responsibility for my own response and reaction to the rain.
This behavior isn’t hate, fear, sulking, petulance, or any of the other labels women, manginas, and society love to place on our choices. Instead, this is an acceptance of reality and a conscious decision to take responsibility for my interactions with and responses to that reality.
This is stoicism at it’s core. As stoics we know that our emotions are created internally to ourselves. For example, stoics know that no one makes us angry, instead we choose to be angry. Remember:
“Man is not disturbed by things, but by the views he takes of them.”
“Get rid of the judgement, get rid of the ‘I am hurt’, you are rid of the hurt itself.”Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Hate is not the opposite of love, indifference is.
Just for accuracy sake, Elie Wiesel said that in 1986. But it’s a great quote. I think Socrates/Plato expressed a very similar sentiment, but I’d have to research it.
hey say “teach men to respect women!!”. Bulls~~~. Teach women to EARN it in the same way they expect men to.
Damn ain’t THAT the hardcore truth. I’m going to borrow that.
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
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