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I would like to know if any of you could relate to this.
I have absolutely zero ability to not only have any love for a woman……..but any kind of like for a woman. What I am trying to say here is that I still adore women’s bodies and have desires to do naughty things with them. But that is where it ends.
I was not always this way. I have been this way since age 27 and I am now going on 42 next month. And the older I get the more and more I feel this way.
It’s not so much hate, it’s just the complete inability to see a woman as ANYTHING but an object of sex.
I feel this way because I know what women are all about. Especially since joining MGTOW, I have my feelings confirmed about women. That they are f~~~ing snake oil salesman. That is what they are. Each and every last one of them. Not only that but they don’t have the guts to be honest and tell it like it is. No money, no honey. They can’t even be honest about what they are looking for in a man. They always say the same old bull s~~~. “I don’t care about money or muscles I just like a guy who will treat me right and be good friend.”
Most women reading this will think that I am just a sore loser. When in fact, that is not the case. The reason I feel no love or even like for women is because I can not have any feelings for someone who I know damn well is not a genuine person. Women are never genuine people.
Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.
“Hate is not the opposite of love, indifference is.”
Someone hear at mgtow.com said this -I didn’t mark down who so apologies to the author.
And the quote sums up my feelings on the matter. At this point in my life I am amazed when I watch the behavior of women, I just smile and think to myself, ” yep, spot on form from her”.
Just rolling down the road
Anonymous42My feelings exactly OP! I no longer allow myself to “feel” emotions regarding women.
My stout advice is to never be emotionally attached to a woman, and NEVER EVER become “LEGALLY ATTACHED TO A WOMAN”, It always ends in disaster!
No man has the ability to “levitate”, nor does a modern woman have the ability to “love”.it’s just the complete inability to see a woman as ANYTHING but an object of sex.
It’s not a problem. Or as complex as you may think.
“Sex”………. is the entire biological POINT between men and women.
It’s not your JOB to “see her” as anything else. If a woman wants to be seen as anything other than a sex object, it’s not even up to you! It’s up to HER. That’s her job — just like it’s a man’s job to be perceived as something other than a wallet or a good f~~~.
• You want someone to like you? It’s up to you to be likable.
• You want someone to think you’re awesome? It’s up to you to be awesome.
• You want someone to respect you? It’s up to you to earn it.We know this. So why should she be any different?
Your concerning yourself with the way women are perceived by you…. and making it YOUR PROBLEM. This is actually the female argument, where they concern themselves with how men perceived them – as opposed to the way they actually ARE. They say “teach men to respect women!!”. Bulls~~~. Teach women to EARN it in the same way they expect men to.
You’re not supposed to “love” her until she has made an effort to be lovable.
It’s not that you don’t have the ability… the woman has lost the ability to be lovable.Not your problem. Congratulations. You’re cured.
Seeing women as a sex object (at first) is actually a good thing, and it’s perfectly natural! Nature designed it that way. No man can be expected to apologize for it. Nor should he feel bad about it. Beyond that, how is it possible to love a woman who has made no effort to be lovable – or even likable? That is definitely going to be up to her.
If she behaves like a bitch, that’s how she will be perceived.
If she behaves like an angel, that’s how she will be perceived.
None of it has anything to do with you.The problem is when a “bitch” still expected to be treated like a “lady”. Doesn’t work like that. And that’s HER problem. That book was written by women – for other women. And they are off-their-rockers nutso crazy if they think men will “love” them for that.
The “men who love bitches”…….. well….. that’s THEIR problem.
Don’t feel bad (or question why) you can’t be counted among them.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11I too have lost the ability to love a woman. It was a death by a thousand cuts over many years for me. I will no longer allow myself to be put in a vulnerable position again to someone who is not capable of appreciating genuine people.
I am bitter? On the contrary, the answer is no. Life without women is very rewarding in and of itself.
Do I hate women? No, I do enjoy a select fews’ company on a limited basis. I wish women had never denigrated themselves into a position where so many men are turning to this position.
I only wish women could see themselves objectively and correct the self-destructive life choices they have made for themselves. Maybe even strive to teach the younger girls the proper path in life so as not to repeat the same mistakes they have. Fat chance of that ever happening so I hope they enjoy all of blue pillers, manginas, and Chads non of which are genuine men.
I’ve personally checked out of this rigged game permanently.
I would like to know if any of you could relate to this.
I have absolutely zero ability to not only have any love for a woman……..but any kind of like for a woman. What I am trying to say here is that I still adore women’s bodies and have desires to do naughty things with them. But that is where it ends.
I can relate to that absolutely.
I couldn’t possibly love a woman. In the back of my mind will always be the millions of s~~~ty things I have heard from feminists for the last few decades, and that have remained completely accepted and unquestioned by society at large.
All the experiences of seeing women in my own life – and in the wider world – get away with murder and still be treated like they are the purest of the pure, helpless little angels. All the unquestioned biases and the complete blind spots our society has for anything bad that women do, and the instant hatred that gets flung at you whenever you try to question it. All the times they treated me like s~~~, and got away with it by reverting to traditional gender stereotypes whenever it suited them.
You say "love is a temple, love the higher law" ...You ask me to enter, but then you make me crawl. And I can't be holding on to what you got, when all you got is hurt
I was going to say something along the lines of how you shouldn’t blame yourself because women haven’t given you anything to love, you’re turning their lack of anything substantial into evidence that there’s something wrong with you; but Keymaster has already said something along the same lines, and much more viscerally and memorably than I could.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
Same. It’s not that I hate women, I’m just indifferent to them. Hell, I don’t even see them as sex objects because I know how many men they’ve slept with. The only porn I watch is hentai which is fake and there’s no stupid “tramp stamps” on their backs. (god, I hate those things)
The only women I like staying around for a limited amount of time are my family members. Otherwise, I try to avoid women if it can be helped.
Love is for poets and wide-eyed dreamers, Bluepillers and Mengina who buy into the fantasy that a Human being’s love is above her present status as a physical carbon-based being, which is corrupt and vile. The love of an imperfect being will always leave wanting and demand return.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Men love women. Women love shoes.
I don’t hate women. I don’t hate snakes.
I love womens bodies. I love the F4 Phantom in full afterburn.
I can love women …. and I do … my daughter …. but the same would apply for a son.
A lion will show you what he does. Will not hide it. As will any other beast of the wild. You will be given clues and probably fair warning.
Nature warns us with colours, roars, spines and fangs. Hell even a black widow will give her victim a quick death.
Women are the only creatures that will deliberately hide their nature.
You are right to see them …. as they truly are.
They won’t/can’t change now.
They are no longer women or ladies …. they are females. Never forget that.
love is an illusion, a lie we tell ourselves .you REALLY lost the ability to LIE to yourself !
that’s great stuff, it feels very strange at first because i went through this as well.
now the best i have is to hold some one in ” high regard ” ..
Anonymous7Men love women. Women love shoes.
The idea of love was created by men. Women love $
A better name for “love” is “infatuation.” It will wear off sooner than the poor infatuated fool can imagine.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Lets face it, what can they offer other than sex?
Companionship? Dog(s) or old pals are better and lasts longer.
Financial? Haha!
Interests and hobbies? Shopping will be their only hobby.
Supportive? Yeah she will want that from you, but when you need it, it will come with a divorce letter instead.
Love? It never lasts, biology even goes against that, lol.
Loneliness? Being lonely isn’t the same as being alone.
There are times we question female nature, but it is pointless, there is no logical answer to irrationality and emotional delusions. Indifference, is the key against emotional crap.
I think of the concept of “love” as being like the fog of war… a haze that settles into the minds of men and clouds their judgement, making a woman’s strengths and capabilities seem greater than they truly are.
Women enjoy the benefits of romance… the things men do when we are in love… but for men they are merely costs by which we weaken and diminish ourselves while empowering them. We disarm ourselves, we subvert our natural tendencies, we pay tribute and we surrender our autonomy to an inferior force because of love.
Then, once they have achieved their objectives of emasculating us and claiming our resources for their own, the fog lifts and we see their encampment for what it really is… usually too late.
Those of use men who can see through this fog… who can look past the t~~~ and the makeup and the flirting and feigned weakness to see the underlying tactics and strategies that women employ are far less likely to be fooled by them and are at a great advantage in our engagements. We don’t succumb to the illusion and therefore are not fooled into believing we are confronting a superior force to which we must surrender ourselves.
This is what you are experiencing. It’s not a failure or a shortcoming, it is a strength… you are awake to the realities of what women are and do and you ar safer and more powerful in dealing with them as a result. You shouldn’t lament this fact, you should call up all the women who helped make this a reality for you and thank them for their (inadvertent) service.
Women enjoy the benefits of romance
I have lost the ability to be “romantic”. No bulls~~~. I am simply incapable of performing those stupid stunts to please and appease women, and for a damn good reason.
“Romance” takes place entirely in a woman’s head. It only exists if she WANTS it to exist.
A woman moves across the ocean, and a man buys a ticket to go and visit & surprise her.
If she’s “in love” with him, he’s “the most romantic man in the world”.
If she’s NOT “in love” with him…. POOF!! He’s a “stalker”.In both situations, exactly the same man has done nothing different – or even wrong!!!
So the line between “grand romantic” and “total stalker” is purely drawn in her head.It’s never the man’s gesture (or effort) that counts as “romantic”.
It’s purely her PERCEPTION of it.That’s why a woman can receive a bracelet as a gift from you and she is equally as capable of taking it to a pawn shop or throwing it away……. as she is at gazing at it all day , imagining all kinds of nonsense , like a retarded kid staring at a taffy-pulling machine.
“Love” I am capable of, and those to whom I give the most are the ones I “love” the most. Including myself.
But “romance”? he he…. get the f~~~ out of my face with that s~~~.I won’t even tolerate the very mention of the word.
When a woman uses it in a sentence, I roll my eyes.
It’s the most childish & wasteful bulls~~~ there is.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I have found I have no real love for anyone around me. That being said, I do have compassion and pity for those around me. Meaning, I am not going to be openly hostile, nor cruel towards those around me. While they were taught to be cruel, spiteful, and mean towards me.
Anonymous42I think of the concept of “love” as being like the fog of war… a haze that settles into the minds of men and clouds their judgement, making a woman’s strengths and capabilities seem greater than they truly are.
Women enjoy the benefits of romance… the things men do when we are in love… but for men they are merely costs by which we weaken and diminish ourselves while empowering them. We disarm ourselves, we subvert our natural tendencies, we pay tribute and we surrender our autonomy to an inferior force because of love.
Then, once they have achieved their objectives of emasculating us and claiming our resources for their own, the fog lifts and we see their encampment for what it really is… usually too late.
Those of use men who can see through this fog… who can look past the t~~~ and the makeup and the flirting and feigned weakness to see the underlying tactics and strategies that women employ are far less likely to be fooled by them and are at a great advantage in our engagements. We don’t succumb to the illusion and therefore are not fooled into believing we are confronting a superior force to which we must surrender ourselves.
This is what you are experiencing. It’s not a failure or a shortcoming, it is a strength… you are awake to the realities of what women are and do and you ar safer and more powerful in dealing with them as a result. You shouldn’t lament this fact, you should call up all the women who helped make this a reality for you and thank them for their (inadvertent) service.
Spot on DOC! Like a yard dart hitting a toad! When I say don’t get emotionally attached, what I mean is when you install a mental “run delayed reaction config” it really filters out the narcissism like nothing else!
What I mean is when I skirt the flirt and appear as if I’m not interested, the typical narcissistic control freak blows all circuits and goes into overc~~~!
It hasn’t failed me yet! When you take things slow, the narcissistic female interprets this as ‘no link cable” for remote control! They give up and go stone dead as it they were a Tiger tank battery in a swamp since WW II!
They act as if you slapped them across the face with a horse whip! They’ll never talk to you again! Believe me, I know! GOOD!
When a control freak tries to run her program “Manipulation; version 28,848,479” all she gets is blue screen with the only option being to reboot!
I fried more narcissistic c~~~s with this method than McDonalds fried potatoes!
To deny these entitled harpies instant gratification is the fastest way to expose them for the spoilage they truly are…
Doc, we see modern women for what they are! RUINED!“Love” I am capable of and those whom I give the most to are the ones I “love” the most. Including myself.
To be sure, I am talking about “romantic love” here which I define as the mental disorder that occurs in a man’s mind when he is sprung for a woman and subjugates himself to her in the hopes of winning the right to f~~~ her.
Heres a semi-related story: While I was out last night with some friends who were in town for CES, we went to a local lounge and were at the counter ordering drinks for our group. The place was busy and two nicely dressed young women came in behind us. I was wearing a fitted but otherwise plain black sweater and he was looking dapper in his button collar shirt with sweater vest and bow tie.
One of the women mentioned my friend’s fashion sense and said she’d like to “mush him into a tiny version of himself and stick him in her purse” which has got to be the most emasculating “compliment” I’ve heard in a long time.
After a moment I asked her “Do you prefer a man who dresses simply or a guy who is very dapper?” And she replied “It depends on what I’m after. The guys I want to date are usually very different from the guys I want to f~~~.”
There you go. Now as a self-respecting man, how could you possibly “fall in love” with someone who is so imminently pragmatic as this? I’d be willing to bet that the prim, dapper, serious minded men who are mushed up in her purse are all 100% in love with her and willing to do whatever it takes to receive the blessings of her attention, while the guys she f~~~s are all ” see ya next time, babe” and off doing their own thing,
That’s what romantic love is… us deluding ourselves into believing that by doing whatever a woman asks of us, we can get her to give her attention to us exclusively. For her, it’s just a strategy for collecting our b~~~~.
If you’ve gotten over it, you’re way ahead of the curve,
Someone said “you can either love women or understand them”
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
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