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I completely agree with you here. In our society it seems it is almost as difficult to find TRUE friends as it is a faithful girlfriend. I believe that was what you intended by your post.
No you read it right! Threw away and deleted 200 Facebook friends 4 years ago when I quit that s~~~. I decided those that matter will call or email, the rest can suck my c~~~. It turns out a surprising number did email… but most of THEM only wanted to know why I wasn’t on Facebook anymore.
“I don’t maintain e-lationships with people. My friends are real and they are IN my life. Not online.” That’s how I thought about it.
To them… I just responded with nothing, or “I am in the VIP section. Zuckerberg invite only.”
They just wanted to know why I wasn’t on Facebook. Not to ask how I was doing. I told them whatever bulls~~~ popped into my head.I would rather have 2 good REAL friends than 200 fake ones.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.…”I would rather have 2 good REAL friends than 200 fake ones.”
I could not agree more! I remember meeting a girl at a bar, when I was about to leave she asked me for my facebook info. The look on her face when I told her I wasnt a member was PRICELESS!
I dont want to detract from the OPs original content, and staying in line with it, here are my thoughts:
Our society has devolved to such an amazing extent that even TRUE friendships are difficult to find. OP you are NOT alone. I feel the same as you. We were designed to have women in our lives. Dont think that your lack of a woman is reflective of yourself. Its not. We live in a convoluted society, and its effecting all of us. You are NOT alone. Reach out to any of us on the forum when you feel that way. We all need support at one time or another.
God bless.
Resident cynic.
For anyone who has seen my posts over the past couple of months, you know that I have embraced the MGTOW lifestyle. I have lived the MGTOW lifestyle before I had any idea that there was a name for it. My whole life essentially. Well you know what? The loneliness is destroying me. I don’t think a human being is supposed to feel unwanted, unloved, not needed, and basically invisible all his life. That is precisely how I have felt pretty much for as long as I can remember. While I may not have an interest in a traditional/ vanilla relationship……..I do desire a relationship with a woman. But none of them give me the time of day. I just can’t relate to any woman. It’s so much harder now than it was in the 90’s. Back then it was so easy to meet women. I just don’t have any kind of connection with these modern day women. I can sit here and pretend that life is great without women. But it would be a lie. I just don’t feel good like this anymore. I am NOT quitting MGTOW. I just don’t know how I am supposed to live my life happy…..if I do not have a woman in my life. Someone who loves me and cares about me.
Nothing wrong with being in a relationship dude. Just be smart about it. Anybody that shames you for wanting to interact with females is being c~~~y.
The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.I am hard pressed to think of anything better than the previous posts. Here’s my best shot.
1. Identify your problem. (You have done this.)
2. Identify the cause of your problem. (Still working on this one, aren’t you? In my view, it is your personal reaction to your circumstances and not your circumstances themselves. So am I with mine; it never ends, but it does get better.)
3. Find the cure, which will be removing the cause.
4. Get busy and remove the cause by executing a strong plan of your own devising.Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
@ Doing My OwnThing40….I really can’t give any better advice than what has already been given here…I can only elaborate on the advice of the guys who suggested getting a dog…it was the best thing I had done when I felt like you did . I absolutely love him and vice versa . If it is possible for you and you like animals I’d go to the shelter and see if there is one you like..it doesn’t have to be a puppy and it if it is not a good match , you can return it…be prepared to deal with some bulls~~~ though…a lot of SJW’s at shelters.My dog gives me plenty of company but he also gives me a chance to socialize with other folks as well . If that is not possible, the only other thing I can add is to check out other couples…I know being alone sucks sometimes but when I look around me I don’t see one relationship where I can say “I wish that was me”. The grass is not greener on the other side even though we wish it was.I honestly wouldn’t give most women these days barn room. Take Care …we’re rooting for you!
Some solid advice from all the guys here and the major reason i am so grateful for this site.
I can’t really add much other than to re-state you are not alone my friend. I too struggle with being alone and i think everyone does from time to time, however it’s just a part of life. Sometimes i’m happy for no other reason than i just am and other times i’m depressed for no other reason than i just am.
Life doesn’t always make sense but that’s fine because as an individual, you can do whatever you want. If you want to date then do so, it doesn’t matter what you do but get some goals that will challenge you and keep you busy. I too have to work on this too, so you’re by no means alone here either. I personally also function better when i’m busy and if i’m not i tend to hit the porn, so we all have our challenges bud.
To all intents life is neutral. It is totally up to us as men what we want to make of it. I personally went to the doctors for something one time and they said i was depressed and wanted to put me on meds. I told them to give me a month, i joined the gym, changed the contractor i was working for to a firm who paid me better and got into pua. Now, ok i ditched the pua as i found it exhausting but i got out of a rut by taking some simple action.
Also whenever i’m depressed i like to watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D05ej8u-gU&list=LLLBmQ_tbqL1qo8rc–YO5wQ&index=3
Life is a wonderful mystery. Enjoy it 🙂
Happiness and fulfillment come from inside. Women don’t provide these things. They magnify them. They will make you feel small and useless to control you. They will withhold sex, spite you and, right from the start they will hate you.
They are consumate manipulators and liars. They prey on the feelings you having right now. Now, when you are weak, they smell it and prey on it. If you don’t seem taken by they’re manipulative bulls~~~ they will dump you.
Do you really want to act like a slave to some slovenly wreck of a woman?
Rent, don’t buy. Short term rentals, hookers, are the best value but maybe you need to be reminded why your here so have a long term relationship with an entitled Ameriskank and you’ll come running back here.
All the complaints you have are unfixable by a relationship. They are part of you. A part you can change. You can only change yourself, not others and certainly not a race of people that are as prejudiced against you as any slave master ever was.
If you want these feelings to go away, wade into the dating market and you’ll be back in spades.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Basically what @keymaster and @richardhutnik Say. “You need to Decouple your self worth from your current state”. Circumstances come and go, money come and go. Women come and go. Its how you deal with those situations elevate you as a person. I don’t know about you but I grew up in a religious family but think of myself as more of a spiritual person and for me giving to the world is much more important than anything else. You know they say its lonely at the top. When you are in a place where everyone WANTS FROM YOU, its a way for the Universe / God / Allah (whatever you believe in) to put you in position of responsibility.
And as KeyMaster said “You belong wherever you are”. This is very well said and you can tell comes from experience. I got my people pleasing tendencies from my dad and suffered because of it but have turned them into helping people (only those who want to be helped, volunteering, teaching kids how to program, helping friends through tough times) and realised that those are actually gifts but have to be used wisely alongside ability to be assertive and be able to say no only to be given to people around me in more of a loving way rather than people pleasing way without an iota of reciprocation. A women is just a part of it, if she appretiates is, well and good, if not, she can f~~~ off.
I normally focus on what is going on around me, I love what I do and enjoy every minute of it, outside work, I am into reading(As a man you must read as much as possible), sports and socialising and yes meetups are a very good idea to meet new people, get out of the house and connect with people, you’d be surprised that if people think of you as someone who can offer any kind of value they will stay in touch or if you contact them even after staying out of contact for few months they will have no problem doing activities with you. I have several female friends / fwb that I interact with but never dishonest with them. I enjoy the company of some of them and enjoy intimacy with some of them, thats how it is. Never be afraid to say to a women what’s on your mind and not be afraid she will get offended or leave (You can find a new female, they are dime a dozen), she will respect you for it, doesn’t mean you have to get married or be in a LTR. Just be congruent, work towards brining your words, thoughts and actions (basically values) into one. Although you don’t always have to express your views openly (for the sake of living amongst f~~~ed up people), you would be surprised how many people appretiate honesty over pretending to get along. If I don’t get along with people socially, I turn my interactions very formal and to the point but always polite. Sometimes the best response to an ignorant person is silence. A wise man once said “A fool’s mind is at mercy of his tongue and a wise man’s tongue is under the control of his mind”.
Sorry for the tangents, I have a tendency to do that 😐
Life consists of two days, one for you one against you. So when it's for you don't be proud or reckless, and when it's against you be patient, for both days are test for you.
Never fall prey to the ideal of one vs the actual of the other comparison. I’ll take actual single vs actual married any day of the week. Especially considering that we are all kinda stuck in actual.
Plan B:
MGoesHOW.
Man learns … and … learns … and …learns at MGTOW.
Man then falls off the wagon. In all likelihood, considering the sentence before this – from a point closest to ground. At the lowest possible speed. Newly trained instinct to “tuck and roll” gets up and out of way of oncoming traffic. Learns more from it.
With the current state of women: one on one is bad enough, but with two or more – impossible.
This site keeps it within “what does not kill us…”
better strained than sprained, stretched than torn, headached than migrained..
Better single and sometimes lonely than the true reality of the other options. Meaning parallel to Ideal Communism vs Ideal Capitalism OR Actual Communism vs Actual Capitalism. Never fall prey to the ideal of one vs the actual of the other. I’ll take actual single vs actual married any day of the week. It doesn’t exist. Actual Single is current reality so don’t fall for subconsciously or societally vs Ideal marriage.
Better to feel like, “I really really need a bath” than to get into a septic tank.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
They just wanted to know why I wasn’t on Facebook. Not to ask how I was doing. I told them whatever bulls~~~ popped into my head. I would rather have 2 good REAL friends than 200 fake ones.
This is what bothers ME about Facebook. I have mostly family members and close friends on there, but even the close friends have started fading away. I DO have my few true male friends I can count on one hand, which are pretty much the only ones that matter anymore…but I’ll admit that while I’m okay with that, it DOES annoy me that people want to consider me their “Facebook FRIEND” when the most they do is tell me “happy birthday” on May 11 (and that’s literally only because Facebook reminds you when your friends’ birthdays are), and then go back to completely ignoring anything important I have to say on there.
Anonymous42I honestly wouldn’t give most women these days barn room
You better not, unless it’s someone else’s barn, then you’re OK.
Newly trained instinct to “tuck and roll” gets up and out of way of oncoming traffic
More like “duck and cover” gets you out of the way of the blast wave, then run like hell to avoid the firestorm…
Someone who loves me and cares about me.
@40, that’s Jesus’s job, NOT A WOMAN’S JOB, they work for the other guy, and man they do their job f~~~ing GREAT! It’s the only job they’ve ever known, look at ADAM, he got f~~~ed, and every guy thereafter, until MGTOW put a stop to their f~~~ing s~~~!
I have 3 dogs, one is older than dirt and stinking like he’s already dead. I use to get lonely too, but my constant vigilance to logic has overthrown and uprooted the natural desire to be with a woman. I’m reprogrammed, re booted, I’m MODIFIED! I’m a modern MAN, A perfect match for modern WOMEN, I’m a direct and brutal rebuttal to feminism.
Women can make you sad enough to commit self termination, I will never allow another woman to have the smallest effect on my persona whatsoever! I am a ghost from another time and place that they can not reach from this world…
My soul is sealed, my heart has healed, under my ever pressing foot lies the essence of women… DIRT.
I have to say that this is a great thread. I believe that exposure and understanding of MGTOW coupled with my experience with women has really changed the way that I perceive women. While I have new found strength through understanding my self, I can’t say that I don’t mourn the loss of the love that I was once continually giving to and occasionally “receiving” from my wife. The truth is that the pure love that I craved does not really exist in the minds of women towards any man, except for their children. This realization is enlightening, and at the same time heart breaking because of the way we are conditioned from childhood onwards to believe that this is the meaning of life. It is not. If you can find a way to make a real difference in someone’s life – someone who really needs it (even if it is a woman) – you might value your own life in a different way…leading to happiness and peace.
Good health to you Doinmyownthing40. We are here for you. You have brothers.
BVC
Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
If you asked most of the guys here, who are still in a marriage to list their top 3 complaints, I’d bet loneliness makes the list on almost of them. When I list mine, loneliness is #1. Having a spouse doesn’t guarantee a companion. So I have friends, a job I really enjoy, hobbies and other interest that I truly enjoy and go my own way.
Someone above referenced loneliness as the silent killer of MGTOW. I agree. There is a lot of exceptional wisdom and thought on this site, but in the end it is up to you, up to us, to navigate our own lives our own way. You know right from wrong, you are aware of the traps and pitfalls around us every day, so starting today walk forward shedding the negative and embracing the good. It takes time but the journey makes you a better, happier, more content person down the road. Volunteer, church, job, hobbies, read, travel, get yourself started filling your life from here forward with positives. You will acquire friends, good friends along the way.
Go back and read the 3 posts by KM in this thread again. They are among the best posts he has on this site. You can be alone even when in the middle of millions of people.
Just rolling down the road
Tower’s:
DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote: “Someone who loves me and cares about me.”@40, that’s Jesus’s job, NOT A WOMAN’S JOB, they work for the other guy
Thank you Tower, you’ve made my day.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous42You’re welcome sir, it’s just another tidbit from all the knot cutting I’ve done within my own heart, It’s always soothing when a knot is released, besides I have miles and miles of recycled mental rope, more than enough to lynch feminism….
Its f~~~ing TOUGH when you face life with noone in your corner.
Anyone who is not in my corner has no place in my life anymore. I have discarded them all. I have carved out “friends” of 4+ years like the cancer they are. I’m not f~~~ing kidding here.
And I would say that sums up MGTOW, regarding having friends of any sort. Anyone who is not in your corner, and uses you for their own ends, without regard for you, doesn’t belong in your life. The feelings of loneliness and rejection can hit you like a ton of bricks. Organizations exploit this, and gangs also, because of the inability of some to be able to be alone while. Humans are social, and you need to rise above it.
The loneliness will sneak up on you and ambush you. It is like a wolf wandering around outside, and the moment you end up having a gap, it will come in and get you tied up and off your game. I would say you have to keep moving in life, and keep busy, and keep heading to goals, and watch what pops into your head. Know what you are facing now, and go with it. But the loneliness will sneak in on you, if you let it.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
This topic headline stated exactly how I was feeling the moment I was reading it. But I found that coming to this place hedges that loneliness to a great extent because it serves as a reminder of why I choose to enjoy my own company over that of some worthless* female.
*worthless alive. Fun fact: a fresh human body is worth $100,000+ if you part it out, regardless of its gender.
"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR
I have a hard time relating. I’m looking for a trailer in the middle of the desert to go live in. Far far away from females. Not looking for any pussy. Wishing I was a virgin. I just can’t relate dude, sorry.
Anonymous42Fun fact: a fresh human body is worth $100,000+ if you part it out, regardless of its gender.
So what you’re saying is that most people are worth more dead than alive. Yep, that sounds about right…..
I have lived the MGTOW lifestyle before I had any idea that there was a name for it. My whole life essentially.
Been there.
The only possible difference for me is that I don’t dare have a woman in my life; any aspect of my world. For a hundred ‘n one personal reasons, I just don’t want to attempt a journey down that path.- AuthorPosts
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