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All I ever wanted was a nice-looking, level-headed, happy, old-fashioned girl-friend, who wanted a good man like me…
Sorry Sir, that’s a Unicorn, they don’t exist in a modern world…
Well, if the type of woman that I want doesn’t exist, then there’s no logical point in pursuing women for a relationship, because I refuse to ‘settle’ (i.e. lower my standards), just to have a woman, i.e. ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’.
This is my thoughts brother. You don’t have to be celibate (no sex) to be MGTOW. Just don’t get serious with them. Be very careful by using birth control. There’s always ladies of the night to consider too. We pay one way or the other if you think about it and this way is much cheaper. I haven’t done this but I’ve long since sowed my wild oats as they say because I’m 55 yrs old now.
Welcome S,
You have a nice way of describing situations.
You’re Introduction and the great replies that it has generated are appreciated.
What women are doing in our RelationS~~~s, marriages, and culture is very similar to the deeds of the Emerald Jeweled Wasp.
Here is a lecture about the parasitic “Jeweled Wasp.” This tiny creature uses chemistry to control, dominate, and consume a much larger c~~~roach. The large “prey” is kept alive to feed/ nurture the offspring of the Wasp.
Carl Zimmer book. “Parasite Rex,” gives many examples of parasitic relationships in nature.
….My only remaining question is; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex?
That is the eternal Question for Heterosexual men like us.
It is like asking a Heroin addict how to eliminate the desire for Heroin.
…….so that I can finally know what sex feels like. I have probably built-up sex in my mind, to be something more romantic/wonderful than it really is….
Here is Post I made to discuss the chemistry associated with sex:
/forums/topic/blue-pill-men-are-really-pheremone-addicts/
Much of the stuff we are force fed about sex is deceptions.
You will be giving up more than you realize, when you choose to lose your virginity.
Here is another Post I made about the relationship between sex and Masculine Power in Internal Martial Arts training:
/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/
……I wish I had your spotless track record and all the emotional damage you avoided. A fair trade, my experiences and scars any day for your ignorance. Count your blessings none had the opportunity to stain your soul. They’re that BAD!
Well said Tower.
And the damage to a man’s soul is often overlooked.
Here is a link to a Post that discusses this topic:
/forums/topic/todays-womyn-are-like-wild-boars-razerbacks/
My Mentor Dave is a Heterosexual Manly Man who happens to be a virgin in his eighties.
Dave is thirty years older than me and is one of the greatest guys I know. He has been MGTOW, “Red Pill,” all of his life.
He helped me to keep power plants running safely and avoid blowing them up. He is one of the best Engineers any one has ever known.Dave still lives at his parents’ home that his Father built. He enjoyed his folks and was there to help them out when they were in their nineties. They never had to go to a nursing home and Dave was with them when they passed.
One of the reasons Dave never went off to Montana is because of his popularity in the Mid-West. For as long as I can remember, Dave always has a great sense of humor mixed with a state of peace and tranquility that transfers to anyone who is with him. Even in his eighties, his days are full of social calls, adventures, relaxation, harmony, and merriment. Some of his activities include shooting, sports cars, biking, nature walks, reading, and meetings with likeminded fellows.
Dave will dine out with the occasional woman but they are mostly “boring” and usually try to get Dave to fight with their neighbors.
Dave claims that “when women get together in groups, they sound like a bunch of hens clucking.”
Dave had plenty of opportunities for marriage, but they all “didn’t work out.” Instead of sitting around feeling depressed when a “Unicorn” turned out to be just another “Filthy Mule,” Dave would jump out of planes in a parachute or go hang gliding. When the greatest blue pill “temptation” fell through, she was not his “Soul Mate” after all, Dave went out and got his Pilot’s License.
One of the greatest gifts that Dave gave me was the realization of Serenity. With the attainment of Serenity, I am never bored. Peace and Tranquility are now glorious treasures. Having Serenity makes an interval spent watching sun sets/ rises, Bird Watching, and being Outdoors in Primal Forests a sacred time.
You have found a gold mine at MGTOW.com
Keep digging into the archives and read the older Posts.
You can read the writing of your favorite MGTOWs by going to their profile page and clicking their “Forums” tab.
Also, there are some great replies to questions asked in the Introductions.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
Hello there, The Manipulated Man. Thank you for your heart-warming and up-lifting reply. I wish I had a friend like Dave. But, at least I can learn from what you have said about Dave, and I can adjust my life accordingly. Yes, the information on the MGTOW Forums is like pure gold, to guys like me.
If anybody has any advice, especially regarding reducing/eliminating my desire for female companionship and sex,
You’re dealing with a real ‘Catch 22’ my friend. The best way to rid yourself of any desire for female companionship is to get a GF. I’d hook you up with my last GF if that were possible. Guaranteed she’d kill your sex drive as well… 🙁
Just to add to the above post:
As you’re in the UK, I’d gladly hook you up with my ex.
You’ll have to take on 6 kids and you’ll be her emotional punch bag. Oh and you’ll have to help pay off the approximately £25000 of debt she’s got….
Tempted??!PS welcome!
PPS: an office full of women. That is pure misery indeed. I’ve been in that position myself. Backstabbing, falseness, stirring…all part and parcel of working with women. You have my sympathies.
If anybody has any advice, especially regarding reducing/eliminating my desire for female companionship and sex…
You’re dealing with a real ‘Catch 22’ my friend. The best way to rid yourself of any desire for female companionship is to get a GF. I’d hook you up with my last GF if that were possible. Guaranteed she’d kill your sex drive as well… 🙁
Just to add to the above post:
As you’re in the UK, I’d gladly hook you up with my ex.
You’ll have to take on 6 kids and you’ll be her emotional punch bag. Oh and you’ll have to help pay off the approximately £25,000 of debt she’s got…
Tempted??!PS welcome!
PPS: An office full of women. That is pure misery indeed. I’ve been in that position myself. Backstabbing, falseness, stirring… all part and parcel of working with women. You have my sympathies.
Geez, well, it’s really tempting, but I somehow think that she isn’t my kind of girl!!! So, after *a lot* of thought, I’d have to say NO!!!
Yeah, it’s fantastic working in an office full of women, as you know. God knows how I’ve put it with it for so long; I wouldn’t if any of them were good-looking either…
The last paragraph of my reply above should read (I cannot edit the reply, for some strange reason):
Yeah, it’s fantastic working in an office full of women, as you know. God knows how I’ve put it with it for so long; I wouldn’t *mind* if any of them were good-looking either…
Their price is honest. But their interaction/companionship is as disingenuous as the fakeup they wear. You think they see you as anything more than a wallet either? Of course not. Your wallet subsidizes their life.
I don’t understand. You’re paying the escort for sex, nothing else. There is no companionship.
You pay a HOOKER for sex. Hookers and escorts are not the same thing entirely. When you’re with an escort, you’re paying for her TIME. That could be dinner, sex, whatever. With a hooker, you’re paying for the act. Point is, either way, whatever interaction you have with her in disingenuous. You think she WANTS to be there? She’s there for the money. There’s nothing inherently honest about that. Esp in the context of sex being intimate. Any interest she has in the activity is fake. She’s not enjoying her sex with you because you’re attractive. She’s doing it for money. She can’t wait to get the f~~~ out of there. Women fake orgasm’s all the time. Men can’t fake orgasms because they need the intimacy and the attraction to get their pecker hard.
Anyone who is going to pay for an escort should already know all this and be ok with it. I’d rather pay for a living woman who is pretending to like me than for a sex doll. I’m basically paying for the fantasy and if she’s a good actor, I’ll be perfectly happy with that.
An escort is still more honest than a wife or girlfriend. She’s not selling a lie. She’s selling a performance. When it’s all over, I can be happy because I don’t ever have to see her again if I don’t want to, but if I want to, I can pay her again for a pleasant experience.
I’d be buying something no female can truly provide in a relationship……..a good and happy time every time I’m with her. I wish we had escorts around here where I live. I’d gladly pay to live the fantasy of being happy with a women for an evening, knowing that she’s going to behave and do whatever I want her to do and act however I want her to act. I’m paying her to do this. She knows what’s expected. I know what’s expected. What could be more honest?
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I was thinking about this myself; so that I can satisfy my sexual desire, so that I can finally know what sex feels like. I have probably built-up sex in my mind, to be something more romantic/wonderful than it really is.
No, you haven’t built it up too much. Sex is probably more wonderful than you’ve built it up to be. I’m fortunate to have a female acquaintance who understands that sex isn’t about love and all that romance s~~~. Sex feels good. Sex is fun. As long as neither of you have STD’s, sex is healthy. Unfortunately I can only see this gal once in a great while. She’s not the greatest thing to look at, but she gets the job done and again, she knows it’s just for pleasure. Wish I could see her more than once or twice a year, but whatever.
So, yes, rent a woman for sex and forget about that romance nonsense. Just have fun.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I was thinking about this myself; so that I can satisfy my sexual desire, so that I can finally know what sex feels like. I have probably built-up sex in my mind, to be something more romantic/wonderful than it really is.
No, you haven’t built it up too much. Sex is probably more wonderful than you’ve built it up to be. I’m fortunate to have a female acquaintance who understands that sex isn’t about love and all that romance s~~~. Sex feels good. Sex is fun. As long as neither of you have STD’s, sex is healthy. Unfortunately I can only see this gal once in a great while. She’s not the greatest thing to look at, but she gets the job done, and again, she knows it’s just for pleasure. Wish I could see her more than once or twice a year, but whatever.
So, yes, rent a woman for sex and forget about that romance nonsense. Just have fun.
I’d say you’re kind of lucky to have a female acquaintance who’d, basically, let you have sex with her, every 6 months or so, without you having to go through the crap that other men have to go through, in order to get some sex. As you say, it may not be the most romantic arrangement, but at least it satisfies the basic desire. In terms of her perhaps not being the most attractive woman to look at, as the saying goes (in the UK anyway): “You don’t look up the chimney when you’re stoking the fire”. I would prefer the woman I was having sex with to be attractive to some extent (or at least not below average in her looks), but perhaps that is just the old romantic in me!
I’d say you’re kind of lucky to have a female acquaintance who’d, basically, let you have sex with her, every 6 months or so, without you having to go through the crap that other men have to go through, in order to get some sex. As you say, it may not be the most romantic arrangement, but at least it satisfies the basic desire. In terms of her perhaps not being the most attractive woman to look at, as the saying goes (in the UK anyway): “You don’t look up the chimney when you’re stoking the fire”. I would prefer the woman I was having sex with to be attractive to some extent (or at least not below average in her looks), but perhaps that is just the old romantic in me!
Yeah, well….I wouldn’t say I was that lucky, because for me, having sex only once or twice a year is like only drinking one or two beers every year. Why bother? I wish my urges weren’t so strong, but I really do love sex. When I was first married, we had sex six times one day. I just can’t get enough.
As far as this gals looks, I wouldn’t call her ugly. She just isn’t what I was used to when I was in my prime. Still better than doing it myself.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
All I ever wanted was a nice-looking, level-headed, happy, old-fashioned girl-friend, who wanted a good man like me…
Sorry Sir, that’s a Unicorn, they don’t exist in a modern world…
Well, if the type of woman that I want doesn’t exist, then there’s no logical point in pursuing women for a relationship, because I refuse to ‘settle’ (i.e. lower my standards), just to have a woman, i.e. ‘no deal is better than a bad deal’.
It’s hard to believe you are a 40 year old man …
Your concept of romance and relationships seems more like that of someone in early adolescence.The main mistake you are making is assuming other people perceive reality like you do, think like you do and feel like you do.
Women have a different psychology than men.
They do not have romantic feelings the same way men do.
They like romance because they like to see a man having feelings for them.
They like to see that in a man because it means they can emotionally manipulate him.That’s the way they perceive romance and always have.
It’s not feminism that has ruined the wimins. That’s delusional horses~~~.
They have always been like this. That’s just how life works. There are biological reasons for this.
It’s just that before feminism they were prohibited to act on their nature.You should thank your guardian angel that you are a virgin.
If any woman figures out how naive you are she will rap you around her finger and make you her bitch. It’s almost unbelievable that you managed to avoid this so far.Monk
I was thinking about this myself; so that I can satisfy my sexual desire, so that I can finally know what sex feels like. I have probably built-up sex in my mind, to be something more romantic/wonderful than it really is.
No, you haven’t built it up too much. Sex is probably more wonderful than you’ve built it up to be. I’m fortunate to have a female acquaintance who understands that sex isn’t about love and all that romance s~~~. Sex feels good. Sex is fun. As long as neither of you have STD’s, sex is healthy. Unfortunately I can only see this gal once in a great while. She’s not the greatest thing to look at, but she gets the job done, and again, she knows it’s just for pleasure. Wish I could see her more than once or twice a year, but whatever.
So, yes, rent a woman for sex and forget about that romance nonsense. Just have fun.
I’d say you’re kind of lucky to have a female acquaintance who’d, basically, let you have sex with her, every 6 months or so, without you having to go through the crap that other men have to go through, in order to get some sex. As you say, it may not be the most romantic arrangement, but at least it satisfies the basic desire. In terms of her perhaps not being the most attractive woman to look at, as the saying goes (in the UK anyway): “You don’t look up the chimney when you’re stoking the fire”. I would prefer the woman I was having sex with to be attractive to some extent (or at least not below average in her looks), but perhaps that is just the old romantic in me!
Dude?!?! … what is it with you and that romance-garbage!?!?
Once you understand how women feel and think about romance, your desire for companionship will subside naturally.
Sex drive can be regulated with proper nutrition, policing thoughts and senses and a regulated fulfilled life.
Since you have no experience with wimins, you don’t even realise the danger you are in. Once one of them gives you attention you will drop like a bag of potatoes, she’ll make you her beta bitch and at the end you’ll be f~~~ed for life.
Heed my warning!
Monk
Since you have no experience with wimins, you don’t even realise the danger you are in. Once one of them gives you attention you will drop like a bag of potatoes, she’ll make you her beta bitch and at the end you’ll be f~~~ed for life.
This is the most important advice you’ve been given in this thread.
As a virgin at 40 (!!!!), I’d say you’ve already done a pretty damn good job of “eliminating” your sex drive and need for female companionship. If you suddenly go searching for both of those two things now, you’ll be destroyed financially, psychologically, and spiritually so quickly your head will be spinning.
You’re exactly the type of clueless boob the worst women actively prey on. If you’re not careful you’ll find yourself in short order married, divorced raped, and impoverished by a single mother stripper with 4 kids from 6 different men and $100,000 in debt.
You’ve avoided women and their snares for forty years already. There’s no real reason you can’t keep that up for forty more.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Yeah, when I was young and stupid, I fell for that love and romance s~~~. None of that is real. It’s just a fantasy and a game and if you play, you will lose. Thankfully, I’ve been emotionally slapped around by enough females that I finally wised up. Wish I had learned my lesson much earlier in life.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Thank you, Meister, for your plain-speaking. Don’t worry, I’m getting the romance knocked out of me. You have to understand that I’m trying to correct 40 years of being given duff information about love/romance and women. If I’d have experienced a relationship with a woman much earlier on in life, then I’d have it knocked out of me much earlier.
Thank you, Meister, for your plain-speaking. Don’t worry, I’m getting the romance knocked out of me. You have to understand that I’m trying to correct 40 years of being given duff information about love/romance and women. If I’d have experienced a relationship with a woman much earlier on in life, then I’d have it knocked out of me much earlier.
Enemies flatter, friends tell the truth.
You don’t even know what a lucky bastard you are.
You have no wife, no kids, no alimony and I’m going to assume you are more or less able bodied and living in a first world country.
It’s like you’ve won the lottery and haven’t even realised it yet.Stay away from romantic relationships, don’t marry, don’t cohabitate, don’t procreate, don’t do drugs, find some real likeminded friends and live happily ever after.
I also recommend starting some religious or spiritual practice to fill that hole in your soul.
Monk
Thank you, Meister, for your plain-speaking. Don’t worry, I’m getting the romance knocked out of me. You have to understand that I’m trying to correct 40 years of being given duff information about love/romance and women. If I’d have experienced a relationship with a woman much earlier on in life, then I’d have it knocked out of me much earlier.
Enemies flatter, friends tell the truth.
You don’t even know what a lucky bastard you are.
You have no wife, no kids, no alimony and I’m going to assume you are more or less able bodied and living in a first world country.
It’s like you’ve won the lottery and haven’t even realised it yet.Stay away from romantic relationships, don’t marry, don’t cohabitate, don’t procreate, don’t do drugs, find some real likeminded friends and live happily ever after.
I also recommend starting some religious or spiritual practice to fill that hole in your soul.
I understand, Meister. I’m getting the picture…
My only remaining question is; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex? I suppose people will say that I should divert those energies in to other things instead, i.e. in to hobbies, and that such energies are natural and cannot ultimately be eliminated, maybe only reduced or manipulated/re-directed in to something else. Does anybody have any advice about how to eliminate/reduce these desires?
From one virgin to another,
The same way you stop eating to prevent overeating.
The same way you willed yourself to the gym when you want to take a break.
The same way you put one step ahead another even when you are exhausted in the marathon.
The same way you stop yourself when you feel angry enough to kill someone.With enough practice your willpower will become stronger and your desires weaker. And finally your desires will become insignificant enough to bother you.
Man has hone their ability to overcome their desires throughout the ages, the desires for eating, resting, killing etc are natural but can be overcome if they put their mind to it.
Sex is but one of them, don’t you see many monks from different race and parts of the world overcome them? Christian, Buddhist, Hindu.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
I am a single, virgin, 42-year-old English man, who was bought-up to be caring, kind, respectful, and old-fashioned,
And that is exactly why you are a 42 year old virgin to begin with. You were lied to by your parents, your government and your society about being a gentleman you took to the path, probably got rejected well over a couple of dozen times (because gentlemen do not excite women even with wealth women would rather f~~~ a fast food asshole over a gentleman) and now get into the spot were you actually are a 42 year old virgin.
22 Years after the cutoff date.
Obviously, a man should not be stupid enough to get involved with a female work colleague, as this can spell disaster for his career (i.e. his income source).
There is truth in that statement however it really depends on your state. If you probably will never be some professional making 6 figures (like myself) then i would not care however if you can’t just take a bus to another city and start fresh i would not even risk it.
. I personally think that the ‘window’ of a woman’s beauty is the 18 – 25 age range, possibly up to age 30 in some better-looking women,
16 to 24 is where it is at, at 25 women start hitting the wall.
So, I am going to continue to do whatever I want to do myself in my life, and to play my Piano for my own personal pleasure, which is my hobby.
Not bad at all.
; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex?
Personally if i was in your situation id just get a hooker or something.
If you know what something is like it is far easier to get rid of it then if you had not tried it before.
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
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