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Hello everybody,
I am a single, virgin, 42-year-old English man, who was bought-up to be caring, kind, respectful, and old-fashioned, and I am quite intelligent, but not particularly out-going, who women have only ever bothered with in life whenever they wanted any advice or help, but who is otherwise invisible to women, especially when it comes to love, romance, and sex (hence I have never had any form of intimacy from a woman). I have decided that it is now too late for me to find the kind of girl-friend that I always wanted anyway, given my age and the terrible way that modern women behave and treat good men like me. All I ever wanted was a nice-looking, level-headed, happy, old-fashioned girl-friend, who wanted a good man like me, but you would think that I was asking for the Earth!
It seems to me that, although there are generally more better-looking younger women nowadays than there were in the older generation (i.e. until they reach the age of 25 – 30 and their looks noticeably/increasingly diminish), which is probably mainly due to good make-up, not due to them actually having better genetics and/or them taking care of themselves, their better looks do not seem to make them happy, since they seem to look more miserable and they are more aggressive than they were when I was younger. I personally think that feminism has killed love and romance and also that modern womens’ toxic (i.e. aggressive, promiscuous, and selfish) behaviour is putting men off marriage; I certainly don’t want to marry a ‘modern woman’ (i.e. a feminist woman), if any woman at all, now, to be honest.
Over the past few months, I have been listening to lots of videos on the ‘MGTOW 101′ YouTube channel. Whoever that guy actually is, he is absolutely spot-on with his analysis and beliefs, when it comes to modern women. I just find it difficult to believe how bad modern women are/behave and how rigged the judicial system is against men; both are due to wide-spread feminism, which some enlightened women appear to now be turning against, since they have finally realised that feminism has not brought them the happiness that it promised it would.
After analysing women for the past 20 years and hearing of the experiences of men who are in relationships, I have also concluded that marriage is a bad deal for men, and that sex just is not worth putting-up with womens’ demands/drama. I think that the best way for a man to protect himself and his assets/funds is just to not get married and to ultimately just avoid all interaction with women; if a man needs to have some sex, then purely use women only for this purpose, but whilst offering no form of commitment (emotional or financial) to any woman. If you have to work with women, keep all interaction with them to a minimum, be professional, but do not be familiar with them in any way; I work in a Local Government office, which is mainly staffed by women, and we are talking about average-quality women at best (in terms of beauty and brains), so they are barely even worth looking at, let alone interacting with, to be honest. Obviously, a man should not be stupid enough to get involved with a female work colleague, as this can spell disaster for his career (i.e. his income source). Besides, in my own case, if I could not get a good-quality nice-looking woman before she was aged 25, why would I want one when she is in her 30s/40s, her looks have gone, and she has probably had a lot of sex before-hand, so is un-attractive and ‘used up’; why would I want such a woman as a partner? No thanks; I will just continue to do whatever I want myself in life. Besides, if the truth be told, modern women look un-attractive without make-up on; the exception being a woman who naturally has good looks and who takes proper care of her looks, which is relatively scarce nowadays, with modern women. I personally think that the ‘window’ of a woman’s beauty is the 18 – 25 age range, possibly up to age 30 in some better-looking women, but beyond that, I personally would not bother with them, as they ‘go off’ after 30 years of age; that may sound harsh, but it is nevertheless true, in my opinion, although women spend a lot of money on cosmetics (i.e. make-up) and surgical procedures, in order to fight what nature does to them anyway. Women should behave with propriety, take care of their appearance, and age gracefully, i.e. not they way that ‘modern women’ age/behave now.
So, I am going to continue to do whatever I want to do myself in my life, and to play my Piano for my own personal pleasure, which is my hobby.
My only remaining question is; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex? I suppose people will say that I should divert those energies in to other things instead, i.e. in to hobbies, and that such energies are natural and cannot ultimately be eliminated, maybe only reduced or manipulated/re-directed in to something else. Does anybody have any advice about how to eliminate/reduce these desires? Having said this, the more I consume MGTOW material, the more I am starting to understand/see women for the way they really are, i.e. beneath their top layer of cosmetic beauty, and because I do not like what I understand/see, I hence find that I am becoming less affected by female beauty, since I know of the horrible creature that lies beneath their top layer. In my opinion, whilst some women are more attractive than others in their top layer, they all seem to have a common fundamental layer of un-spoken cultural language/rules (like a ‘female code’), with a slightly varying middle layer, dependent upon their own life experiences, under-neath their top layer; the challenge for men, in order to understand women, is to look past their top layer of cosmetic beauty and to work through the variances in their middle layer, in order to then be able to understand their fundamental layer of language/rules (verbal and non-verbal), and it is also sometimes useful to know what experiences/factors can cause certain attitudes/beliefs/behaviours in their varying middle layer; the worse and the more un-balanced a woman’s life experiences have been, the worse and the more un-balanced a woman’s middle layer will be.
Anyway, I am sorry for such a long post, and thank you for reading it. If anybody has any advice, especially regarding reducing/eliminating my desire for female companionship and sex, I would much appreciate it. If anybody believes that I have got anything wrong in my post, please let me know what you think I have got wrong and what your alternative view-point of it is.
Kind regards,
sjt1975.
Welcome, Tower will be along with a coldie soon. The Zen of sexual desire is … … … to see the desire as a biological survival mechanism, that the higher conscious can subvert to better your own needs.
Afinogyny.. from the Greek Afino {to abandon/ to set down/ to leave /to allow/ to let } + Gyny {Women} MGHOW’s philosophy to not engage women without “hating them”. Narcorca =Narcissistic Orca typically spouting to a bathroom mirror taking an arms length selfie ; Wallinate describes post wall females whose SMV is terminally negligible New Years resolution "To not make women happy" . Instadestitue: yet another Neologism for Men that cohabit with women that decide to pull the handle of intervention orders.
You cannot eliminate the desire for sex. Taking salt peter will prevent erections.
You have to control it. Many here regard it as something that is a physical need that needs tending to. Masturbation to porn you like is probably the easiest method of relief. There are nice aides you can get if you don’t like using hands and want more of a natural feel. If you have money you can get a good sex doll as a long-term investment. Get it before your uk women tax them out of existence (never happen, women buy sex dolls too). They are freaking scared crapless about sex dolls and men not needing women anymore.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Great introduction and welcome!
Female companionship is overrated. You can still find a decent woman to cohabitate with you but you’ll soon find that it’s not what it’s made out to be. She will slowly take over your life and you’ll miss your current freedom.
Sex can be fun but you keep wanting better and better so it can become an expensive addiction. You can take the edge off in the shower once every few days.
I say you enjoy your freedom. Travel a bit more to destinations where you can have transactional sex without any emotional manipulation or strings. There is no one way to go about it but that’s what I would do.
Cheers!
Hello, and welcome =]
I am a single, virgin, 42-year-old English man, who was bought-up to be caring, kind, respectful, and old-fashioned, and I am quite intelligent, but not particularly out-going, who women have only ever bothered with in life whenever they wanted any advice or help, but who is otherwise invisible to women, especially when it comes to love, romance, and sex (hence I have never had any form of intimacy from a woman).
Everything that your parents taught you that was supposed to land you a quality woman is a lie. Fact is, to women, those traits you talk about doesn’t make you attractive. It makes you unattractive. Because you don’t stimulate her vagina and her urge to sleep with you. Hence why you got no attention. And what attention you got was as an emotional tampon (a crying towel for their problems). Because why? “You’re a nice guy”. Nice guys finish last because nice guys are who women look for when they want a PROVIDER. When they want to hang onto your resources.
It seems to me that, although there are generally more better-looking younger women nowadays than there were in the older generation (i.e. until they reach the age of 25 – 30 and their looks noticeably/increasingly diminish), which is probably mainly due to good make-up, not due to them actually having better genetics and/or them taking care of themselves, their better looks do not seem to make them happy, since they seem to look more miserable and they are more aggressive than they were when I was younger.
Women are inherently fake. Your interactions with them are disingenuous from the very moment you meet them because they’re deceptively hiding their true appearance behind a MASK of makeup (aka FAKEUP). Which is done to increase their sexual market value and for attention. Both of which are related to each other. They’re miserable because they’ve finally gotten their equality. They work longer hours for less money (like men do) and they’re realizing that this idea of “making a difference” in the business world and “being a part of something” is bulls~~~. They realize that companies give zero f~~~s about them. Just like businesses give zero f~~~s about men. We’re all cogs in the wheel. Combined with your next point..
I personally think that feminism has killed love and romance and also that modern womens’ toxic (i.e. aggressive, promiscuous, and selfish) behaviour is putting men off marriage; I certainly don’t want to marry a ‘modern woman’ (i.e. a feminist woman), if any woman at all, now, to be honest.
Women are waking up to the LIE that they were told by feminist that they could have their cake and eat it too. That “they didn’t need a man”. But the reality is they do. And now because they’ve shunned man, they’re forever alone. And if there’s one thing women HATE being is alone. Because misery loves company.
I just find it difficult to believe how bad modern women are/behave and how rigged the judicial system is against men; both are due to wide-spread feminism, which some enlightened women appear to now be turning against, since they have finally realised that feminism has not brought them the happiness that it promised it would.
There’s 50,000 people signed up on this site. They would not all be here, sharing their stories from all over the world if women today were not as bad as you think. Just because you went fishing and caught a few fish does not mean there are not millions of fish out there. Behavior, esp socially programmed behavior becomes universal.
I think that the best way for a man to protect himself and his assets/funds is just to not get married and to ultimately just avoid all interaction with women; if a man needs to have some sex, then purely use women only for this purpose, but whilst offering no form of commitment (emotional or financial) to any woman. If you have to work with women, keep all interaction with them to a minimum, be professional
Why do you think it is that guys on here all say their financial situations improved and in many cases, they emerged debt free after cutting ties with women? It’s not a coincidence. Women are bad with money. They’re wonderful spenders. So long as they’re spending YOUR money. When it’s their own, they nickle and dime like crazy. As for keeping it professional at work, Keymaster sums it up just nicely when he says work is not a place for gossip and chatter. It’s a place for work. You are not there to socialize. Do not discuss personal matters with women. If they ask, be blunt and shut it down. Keep work talk about work. It’ll also keep your chances of harassment to a minimal and help keep you from losing your job over something you said or did.
My only remaining question is; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex? I suppose people will say that I should divert those energies in to other things instead, i.e. in to hobbies, and that such energies are natural and cannot ultimately be eliminated, maybe only reduced or manipulated/re-directed in to something else. Does anybody have any advice about how to eliminate/reduce these desires?
Nobody says you have to go monk. Men who do, make the choice for a number of reasons. That’s the thing about going your own way. What you do with your life is up to you. So long as you understand the risks, and can navigate through them, do as you wish. But considering the rate at which women contract and have std’s, considering the fact it takes ONE PHONE CALL to the police to accuse you falsely of rape, that should be incentive enough for you. But in the end, we’re human. We’re hard wired through our biology to have sex. Because our two prime objectives as a species are to survive and replicate. So the concept of having sex is part of who we are. Either you give in to the tiny worm at your waist… Your lizard brain, or your let your real brain kick in and prevent you from taking those risks in the first place. The choice is yours.
Welcome. Don’t fight your sex drive – master it. Understand it as a biological need. Just like eating. But unlike the need for food and water – you won’t die without sex.
Food and water are for YOUR survival- where as sex is for the species survival. I’m 15 years your senior – but as a younger man I know how strong the instinct is.
You can derive satisfaction from so much more – focus on higher aesthetics – I think once you do – sex will be relegated to a more secondary need. By all means – if you can get with a woman who catches your fancy and do so safely – go for it. Nothing at all wrong with that.
Welcome.
Wanna try sex: get a scort, most sincere women on the planet.
Sex is overrated. It’s just a drug.
You think paying for sex is not manly? Well we all pay for sex, is called marriage, and when a woman get on bed with a men:
1) she either expect to gain something.
2) she is cheating on her bf.
You wanted a unicorn (there is a reason while we call it that).
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
Anonymous5Welcome to the forums and thanks for the great read.
It seems you’re like most of us. You’d worked out that female nature is different in reality to the romantic fairy tales you were brought up on.
I hope you enjoyed finding out that so many other men had realized the same. I know I did.If it’s about sex there’s a number of obvious choices from prostitutes to to porn to fleshlights.
But I’ve found most men yearn for that feeling of companionship and intimacy.
Japanese men are starting to have online anime type apps relationships to fill this niche. It’s extremely popular over there where over 70% of men identify as Herbivore (MGTOW)you can get a good sex doll
This is the other option where you can play out your NAWALT fantasy AND have sex as well.
It’s far saner, safer and cheaper than projecting your idealized concept of women onto an actual bipedal reptile.get a scort, most sincere women on the planet.
Carnage is right. They are the most honest women you’ll ever meet.
get a scort, most sincere women on the planet.
Carnage is right. They are the most honest women you’ll ever meet.
Their price is honest. But their interaction/companionship is as disingenuous as the fakeup they wear. You think they see you as anything more than a wallet either? Of course not. Your wallet subsidizes their life.
Their price is honest. But their interaction/companionship is as disingenuous as the fakeup they wear. You think they see you as anything more than a wallet either? Of course not. Your wallet subsidizes their life.
I don’t understand. You’re paying the escort for sex, nothing else. There is no companionship.
If anybody has any advice, especially regarding reducing/eliminating my desire for female companionship and sex,
You’re dealing with a real ‘Catch 22’ my friend. The best way to rid yourself of any desire for female companionship is to get a GF. I’d hook you up with my last GF if that were possible. Guaranteed she’d kill your sex drive as well… 🙁
Their price is honest. But their interaction/companionship is as disingenuous as the fakeup they wear. You think they see you as anything more than a wallet either? Of course not. Your wallet subsidizes their life.
I don’t understand. You’re paying the escort for sex, nothing else. There is no companionship.
You pay a HOOKER for sex. Hookers and escorts are not the same thing entirely. When you’re with an escort, you’re paying for her TIME. That could be dinner, sex, whatever. With a hooker, you’re paying for the act. Point is, either way, whatever interaction you have with her in disingenuous. You think she WANTS to be there? She’s there for the money. There’s nothing inherently honest about that. Esp in the context of sex being intimate. Any interest she has in the activity is fake. She’s not enjoying her sex with you because you’re attractive. She’s doing it for money. She can’t wait to get the f~~~ out of there. Women fake orgasm’s all the time. Men can’t fake orgasms because they need the intimacy and the attraction to get their pecker hard.
Sex is overrated.
Totally agree. But you don’t realize that until you’re getting it. For a virgin, it would be hard to take someone else’s word on that…
Welcome sjt1975,
Thank you for sharing your story. Now about how to eliminate the desire for female companionship and sex! from what I have heard our desire for sex finally disappears 3 days after they put us in the grave 😉 Each of us has to deal with this natural urge our own way! Good luck.
My only remaining question is; how do I eliminate my desire for female companionship and sex? I suppose people will say that I should divert those energies in to other things instead, i.e. in to hobbies, and that such energies are natural and cannot ultimately be eliminated, maybe only reduced or manipulated/re-directed in to something else. Does anybody have any advice about how to eliminate/reduce these desires?
You must own a better Crystal ball than IAWALT my friend. AWALT.
You have a lot of knowledge and wisdom for someone as young as you are. Glad you’re here man.
AWALT my friend. AWALT.
You have a lot of knowledge and wisdom for someone as young as you are. Glad you’re here man.
I’m glad I can help. I’m trying to do it while not being a depressive f~~~, and injecting positivity into this forum because it needs it. I’ve battled depression for the last 11 years and have worked hard to kick it’s ass. I don’t need it getting any help. 😉
#PowerOfPositivity
People need to see there’s a light at the end of the tunnel, and that comes from mentality shifting.
Their price is honest. But their interaction/companionship is as disingenuous as the fakeup they wear. You think they see you as anything more than a wallet either? Of course not. Your wallet subsidizes their life.
I don’t understand. You’re paying the escort for sex, nothing else. There is no companionship.
You pay a HOOKER for sex. Hookers and escorts are not the same thing entirely. When you’re with an escort, you’re paying for her TIME. That could be dinner, sex, whatever. With a hooker, you’re paying for the act. Point is, either way, whatever interaction you have with her in disingenuous. You think she WANTS to be there? She’s there for the money. There’s nothing inherently honest about that. Esp in the context of sex being intimate. Any interest she has in the activity is fake. She’s not enjoying her sex with you because you’re attractive. She’s doing it for money. She can’t wait to get the f~~~ out of there. Women fake orgasm’s all the time. Men can’t fake orgasms because they need the intimacy and the attraction to get their pecker hard.
This is as straightforward as you can get. The biggest thing you can do is get over the lie that is in movies, books, music and social media, that tells us about these love stories. They never speak of the fallout that occurrs shortly after. Welcome to the jungle, Sjt1975.
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