Greetings. Looking for Advice

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

Hi,

The miscarriage was life’s version of the Governor calling to stay your execution. Having a baby is never a fix and I’ve witnessed this personally with friends many times. Your Father drinks probably because he is unhappy, you could follow this example if you want. Hurt feelings grow over time if your doubting this now it will be full blown regret in a few years and depression after that.

That is my opinion.

EDIT: Ok, rereading the original post. This is almost exactly what my Uncle went through when I was 13. His G/F desperately wanted a child and so she got pregnant. She didn’t even give birth when she tore off her mask and revealed her true manipulative nature. She refused to do any of the work around the house citing “she was pregnant” and let him know she was quitting her job and just going to sit at home (and do nothing) raising the child. She had a miscarriage and he severed his relationship immediately after that.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

theseeker wrote:

i want to see the other post… not to troll but to read it. please?

 

What the other message board?

Can you PM on this site, I’d rather not have both accounts linked if possible.

 

 

[Anonymous 5]

Divorce/Break up with her. Hide your money first so she can’t take all of it. Eat up the loss in the short term, but be forever happy that c~~~ is gone.

As soon as she gives birth, she will divorce you. That is her plan. She does not give a f~~~ about you. She wants the kid so she is promised everything from the court.

Break it up NOW.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Let’s just say I’m coming around and noticing more and more things that are red flags.

 

For curiosity’s sake, is anyone in this thread married?  Do any of you currently have meaningful long-term relationships with women?

Or in your experience do they all fall into the same pattern (reel you in, fun and exciting, lots of Sex and BJ’s, longer term relationships, fall in love, start pushing for dat marriage & kids).

Just curious.

 

 

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

 

theseeker wrote:

i want to see the other post… not to troll but to read it. please?

 

F~~~ it here is the thread (funny you guys don’t have a PM feature here?  I’m the OP obviously.  Kind of long, 2 of the “prominent” female posters start jumping all over me later in the thread.  Just do me a favour, don’t troll em as you said, and don’t link me direclty back to this site that’s all I ask (I’d like to post here in peace).  But do let me know what you think!  😉

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/holy-damn-read-this-guys-youll-never-get-married.454534418/

 

 

[Anonymous 42]

 

Date Posted: Tuesday at 11:19 AM #29

“been with my wife since 2006 married since 2013. happy as ever sucks for them”

We’ll see about that! On the marry’go’round only two NIʞƆ∩Ⅎ years! I’ve seen multiple GRENADES EXPLODE 20 to 30 years later, utterly destroying everything in sight!

The guy’s as blue as a blueberry! He’ll be here someday when he’s a BAKED BLUEBERRY PIE!

NIʞƆ∩Ⅎ MORON!

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Anonymous wrote:

Date Posted: Tuesday at 11:19 AM #29

“been with my wife since 2006 married since 2013. happy as ever sucks for them”

We’ll see about that! On the marry’go’round only two NIʞƆ∩Ⅎ years! I’ve seen multiple GRENADES EXPLODE 20 to 30 years later, utterly destroying everything in sight! The guy’s as blue as a blueberry! He’ll be here someday when he’s a BAKED BLUEBERRY PIE! NIʞƆ∩Ⅎ MORON!

That’s the dream.  Keep them just happy enough that they keep coming back for more I guess.

[JsecureParticipant 11]

In the past I would have said, why miss out on the chance of a lifetime of happiness. But, they say never have kids to solve existing relationship problems and I think they’re right. If you’re not happy, f~~~ it, just leave. Sure, some people would say that’s what, cruel? Insensitive? F~~~ me, some of the stuff women do to me on a daily basis is so inhuman it’s practically comatose. It seems gouging out each others’ feelings is just par for the course.

You’re only going to live once – literally. If you’re not completely happy, dump her and do whatever makes you happy. Maybe some woman joins you for some part of whatever it is you’re doing, but they join you when it suits you and on your terms. And don’t get conned into worrying about dying alone in some nursing home because you didn’t partner up and have a bunch of kids. Cancer, heart attacks, high blood pressure and traffic accidents are as likely to get you as anything else, so make the most of today. Seriously. Go for it.

[BeeParticipant 700]

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Let’s just say I’m coming around and noticing more and more things that are red flags. For curiosity’s sake, is anyone in this thread married? Do any of you currently have meaningful long-term relationships with women? O/1r in your experience do they all fall into the same pattern (reel you in, fun and exciting, lots of Sex and BJ’s, longer term relationships, fall in love, start pushing for dat marriage & kids). Just curious.

I’m 13 years married, so I have some credibility. Nearly all will push for children or commitment except for those who are older and/or have good income or assets (more than their partner. These women DO NOT push for commitment). Marriage is a disaster. The real chance of success is about 1/10. Of my friends, only a couple have parents still married. Of my married friends, not many are happy. Most disappear until the divorce and then they’re around again. I’ve got my own issues which you can probably locate in my posts.

She wants commitment and a child. If this is what you want then do it. If not, then your relationship has reached an impasse. If you don’t want marriage and children, end the relationship. Let her find what makes her happy and you do the same.

[BeeParticipant 700]

My 13 year anniversary just passed. I can’t say with certainty whether it will last 13 years or 31. I can say this. I will never get married again. Never. Ever.

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

theseeker wrote:

i want to see the other post… not to troll but to read it. please?

Here is the thread.  Funny you guys have no PM feature here.  Anyway, do me a favour, don’t post anything over there that would link me directly to this site, I’d appreciate it.  I’m the OP in the thread obviously.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/holy-damn-read-this-guys-youll-never-get-married.454534418/

Funny though, I found the MGTOW article when I was Googling “Should Men Get Married”  I guess you can tell where my head is at.

 

Keymaster wrote:

YAZ wrote:

Look, your girlfriend needs to live alone….BY HERSELF…..so she can learn to be happy by HERSELF.

SO MUCH THIS ^^^^^^ Lemme tell you a little story. And I will not forget this because I KNEW I was right back then. I was already 12 years older than she and she was pouting and sniffling facing AWAY from me in bed. I was telling her “You need to get your own place. You need to get a job. You need to stand up on your own”. She’s crying and thinking Im dumping her. I wasn’t. I fell for the tears man and I didn’t push. 8 months become 3.5 years. Ended in disaster and a screaming mess. In retrospect, I should have pushed her out the f~~~ing door. No mercy. And yes Im serious. After the 3.5 years we’re cleaning out my place because Im making a move after accepting an offer. She says “You didn’t allow me to be independent. I lost myself.” I never spoke to her again. What an unimaginable bitch.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

Everyone saying dump her now, it’s not as easy as all that to extract your feelings from a 3 year relationship and say “get the f~~~ outta here.” I’ll be demonized by her family, and mine will wonder WTF you let her go for. (I was a single bachelor for a long ass time).

I know that feeling too. You’re invested. SHE KNOWS THIS. It would be like working on a f~~~ing painting for 3 years and selling it for too cheap or leaving it on a sinking ship. You almost WANT to go down with the ship yourself just to stay with it. It’s EXACTLY like that.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

I’ll be demonized by her family

I was. You’ll deal with it. But here’s the catch. You’re gonna be demonized by her family EVEN IF YOU MARRY HER AND HAVE TWO KIDS WITH HER AND SHE DECIDES SHE WANTS THREE. You’re ALWAYS going to be the asshole. ALWAYS.

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

and mine will wonder WTF you let her go for.

Mine understands. I let her go, because she didn’t add value to my life. She was a parasite, a headache and a burden. Keeping her around so that your family (or hers) doesn’t think you’re an asshole is the wrong reason. You know what that says? It doesn’t communicate marrying her is a +1 for you. It says NOT marrying her is a -1 for you. Do you really want to do s~~~ just because it places you at ZERO? Do you want to get married and support two kids and give yourself totally to a situation where if you DONT do it, you’re a prick? NOT MARRYING HER IS NOT THE SAME AS TREATING HER BADLY. NOT MARRYING HER IS NOT THE SAME AS TREATING HER BADLY. NOT MARRYING HER IS NOT THE SAME AS TREATING HER BADLY. Remind yourself and everyone of that. You didn’t treat her badly. I didn’t treat mine badly. I treated her TOO WELL. Better than she deserved. It was not recognized as such. After 3.5 years of letting her live with me, paying for everything, cooking the meals because she was useless, and treating her better than she deserved, those 3.5 years are gone and now I’m remembered as an asshole??? F~~~. THAT. S~~~. This was a girl who was such a princess, she had to go away for a gig and tried to rebook the flight so she would “have another day with me”. I told her just go on the f~~~ing flight. She thought that meant I didn’t love her. Again I was the asshole. She spent a whole day p~~~ed off trying to book the flight, on her cell phone during the meals, and bitching and moaning ALL DAY because it didn’t look like it was possible to change it. In front of her parents I said “you’re an unbelievable f~~~ing princess. You make everyone around you MISERABLE and ruin meals and bitch and moan ALL DAY, so you can have an extra day here? I don’t want to be around you for an extra day like this!!!!” She just wanted to drive me crazy. “What a great advantage a man can have over women if he only knew the cold and calculating thoughts that are going her mind while her eyes are brimming with tears”. – The Manipulated Man Years later, when I read that quote, I fell back in my f~~~ing chair.

It’s hard but I see the signs are panning out exactly as you say.  I have yet to read TMM in full, but what I have been reading so far is…interesting and enlightening.

 

[idaveParticipant 9]

Canadian Sports Fan,

Sorry for your pain, but your not here for support. You need to think about your dreams and goals. I’m guessing your marking time and making choices based on wanting a future on your terms. If you marry, your dreams may die and goals will be further from your grasp. Think about your career and how it has developed you. Men define themselves by their careers. Most men make the mistake of getting into relationships before their careers take off. Then they find out that their careers pull them one way and their women another. Work on and define your career, then the better or right woman will be attracted towards you based on that path. Define yourself and woman flock towards you.

[Zoby TwoParticipant 83]

Hello my friend,

 

Just my 2 cents : I’m a married man and before my mariage, my wife was the most beautiful, adorable, nice, sweet girl I knew. All my friends told me I was a lucky guy because she loved me and because she was young, virgin and she wanted to marry me and have children. The perfect life for me. That’s what I wanted (I really though this lol).

I met her when I was 24 and she was 18. We lived together in my own flat : she was a student and I was the provider of our couple. I paid all but it was ok for me.

To be honnest, I didn’t want to marry but I did it for her. Because I was totally under her influence. Her pussy, her smile … She was a little princess.

Anyway, when we married, she was still nice 2 years after the weedings but I saw some redflag at this moment : snoring, nagging …

She became lazy and it was worse when we had our children.

Man, don’t marry that girl. It is a real trap. My mariage was the worst decision I’ve made in my f*cking life. I’d like to divorce but she will take half of my assets and I won’t see my 2 daughters anymore. I’m trapped. So don’t do this. Stay free.

Sorry for my bad english as I’m french it is not my native langage.

Cheers

 

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