Going your own way sometimes means ghosting from your PARENTS??

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

great thread, good reading and perspectives.

My take is this… 99% of our parents are going to be complete blue-pill minded people. They “think” they know what is best for us using their very outdated, clouded, and herd-like minds. It doesn’t make them bad people, just bad people to listen to for your happiness.

My parents have put some much pressure on me over the years, causing me stress leading me to make poor decisions. F~~~ it. I still see my parents and love them and all, but its best to keep as much distance as possible. If they need help, I am there for them though.

[Symmetric MGTOWParticipant 570]

Great topic.

My father died when I was 18 years old. He was a flawed man but he was a good guy deep inside. He also loved my and my brother with all his heart. He said that the thing he knew he would miss the most would be to not see my brother and I grow up and become men. He died of cancer when I was very young.

As for my mother, she is also a good person, flawed too, but she always tried to do the best for my brother and I. Heck, she even did the best she could for my father when he fell ill. She became his nurse and tended and cared for him when he got his cancer prognosis.

I will never, ever forget that my mother took care of my father like that and always had my brother and I in mind when making any decision. She was dedicated to both of us as much as she could and did everything she could so we’d become good people with good futures.

However, we have had disagreements down the road and she has always respected my decision when it comes to doing or not doing something.

That is why I could never ghost her. Even though I didn’t ask to be born she always did the best she could so I could succeed.

I, however, would understand if other brothers had mothers with different, very toxic personalities. Stay away from them.

And again, as I said, great topic.

[AttonParticipant]

is this normal? what do you guys think?

It depends on your parents some are better than others.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

The thing is, chances are the ultimate reason they want you to settle down is so you can give them some grandkids, but when you think about how often divorce happens and how often the father loses all visitation rights to his kids, that also means that his parents are even less likely to see those kids either.

So to all you grandparents out there, if your son has kids, the odds that you will lose the ability to ever see them again are pretty high, so if he decides to stay single and childfree, he might be saving you a lot of needless heart-ache.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

Nerevar wrote:

My parents are completely cool with whatever I choose to do with my life.

Can we trade parents?

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[Ghosting GhostParticipant 87]

I ghost everyone except my mother. She knows all about what I want in life. She doesn’t like it, but she is one of those who supports her kid no matter what. I constantly red pill her on politics and women. She agrees to some extent, but has difficulties with accepting certain aspects. She allows me to believe whatever I want, however. This is why I keep her in my life.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Greg Honda wrote:

Suggestius wrote:

Greg Honda wrote:

I don’t know if there is space in the discussion for topics that deal with what happens outside of this world. I probably need to find another forum for that subject but I don’t know of any.

Oh come on. Why not? I see administration is a quite loyal to us. Try

I have some pretty extreme experiences in this area that those who haven’t also experienced will see as the ramblings of a fool.

If you haven’t personally witnessed the other side of reality you will never understand how real it is. I have tried to tell selected people over the yaers what I have experienced and they first think I’m jokeing, then realise I’m not, then think I’m lieing, then realise I don’t lie. And then they get scarred and freaked out. Everyone I’ve tried to share with has asked me never to bring up this subject again. They can’t handle it. I wish I could find someone who has been through the same thing as me so I can…Unburden myself I guess.

I don’t think this is the place.

I have some experiences of my own. I’d love to compare notes. You can’t trust ANYTHING like this that you see online because it’s usually c~~~s trying to get attention or some f~~~wit trying to sell a book. I’d love to hear your experiences and would be glad to share mine too. You should make a topic and share what you know. The people here are pretty much the most level headed and “real” people you’ll ever meet. If you can’t talk about something like this here, then you can’t talk about it anywhere.

[narwhalParticipant]

You should avoid anyone who is toxic, your parents are no exclusion. Not all parents are toxic. I’m not saying there are perfect parents out there, but many of them are manageable.

My father passed away years ago, and I can’t say that he was ever really toxic. My mother has her moments, but she will listen to logic and will make changes, if slowly sometimes. Really, she will listen and be on my side even when I’m wrong. That’s really pretty rare these days.

I actually can talk with her a lot better then I can my siblings. We all have busy lives, but it bothers me that I really don’t know my brother or sister these days. I cannot call them up and talk about life. They don’t know who I am, and I really don’t know them. We get together around holidays, as if it’s obligatory, and have meaningless small talk.

I get the point of ghosting, but I really wish I had stronger relationships. I don’t mean dating or marriage, just being able to hang out with people, have fun, and be myself. Everything seems to be about being proper and correct these days. I know that it’s really not and I just need to work on reconnecting with people…that aren’t toxic.

Ok. Then do it.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Weird. I was just about to start a thread on this.

I’ve reached the point where I don’t need the constant verbal abuse and denigration in my life any more. I’ve put up with it for far too long out of some sadly outdated views on family and loyalty and all that jazz. That was another generation, another era. I’m not sure if most people my age (46) have f~~~ed up parents, but it seems like an awful lot do. And the younger a person is, the more it seems likely that their parents are simply terrible and abusive human beings. Far, far worse abuse from single/divorced mothers, of course.

I am increasingly convinced that this civilization is winding down.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Elric Greenstone wrote:

I’m not sure if most people my age (46) have f~~~ed up parents, but it seems like an awful lot do. And the younger a person is, the more it seems likely that their parents are simply terrible and abusive human beings. Far, far worse abuse from single/divorced mothers, of course.

i’m much younger than you, and i admit that my father is often an awful person

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

I just want to get this off this chest. My dad passed away from me like a few years ago, and I have been living with my mom on and off, trying to find what I wanted to do in my life and trying a lot of stuff including trying out living in another city more than once in the process with miserable living conditions I might add. You see, I live in a francophone city and my french is not very good which is why I really envy you Americans as well as many Canadians here for having the privilege in speaking your town or your city’s first language very well. I had a lot of problems throughout the years, and also, according to Dr Phil, there are like over 10 times more abuse in a parent/child relationship in a single parent household than in a household with both parents being there, because I now know that a lot more sh*t can happen when there is like only one opinion on how to deal with the sons and or daughters than two opinions for obvious reasons.

But in the end now, I am in probably the best set of mind that I ever was in my entire life. I even know much better now to how to deal with my mother. Also, out of everyone she knew lately, I know for sure that I probably helped her the most in terms of helping her be a better person than everyone else she knew since my dad passed away. So in the end, through lots of non fiction reading, through watching a lot of youtube videos and through even life experience, and also through even some paid advice and some school courses I have taken, I ended up turning into a very knowlegeable person at my age. And the best part is that after finally learning a bit about the french language and it’s grammar, I actually have a plan for next year in actually learning how to speak it in a very functional level with all the resources that I have online. I even am now planning on going into a field that there is a lot of bilingualism(speaking french and english), so it is not like I have to learn too many advanced french or anything.

So as soon as my mother found out how much I changed now and how focused I am in what I want to do as well as how realistic my goals are, and even how much I helped her the past 2-3 years, our relationship is much better, because she knows for sure now that I am actually trying in life, which I always was but I just did not know exactly what to focus on in the past but I did try to find focuses to focus on.

She is also aware that I go to this site, but she doesn’t really mind, because maybe she thinks that in me going to this site, there is a higher chance that I will still be in her life when she is of older age, since I would not have too many things in my plate in my life compared to a family person would have, I donno. She always says, she just want’s what is best for me though, but the past 2-3 years, I have been trying to explain to her that she does not know what is best for me since the world is a much more complicated now than the simple world that she knew before she herself was even married. At least she is rational enough to listen to what I know, which would also go along with what she learned from other children of her friends and family, where some of them went to university and are not even working in the jobs in their field of education yet.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

^^^
thanks for sharing your story.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

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