First of all thank you for letting me be a part of your community

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Keymaster wrote:

Enablr wrote:

I did not have succes with any woman, doubting my self that I could ever get a woman again – until I met . Having no successes at all

Let me tell you a little something about “success with women” – the kind you imply.

It’s bulls~~~. It doesn’t exist.
It’s a fabrication by PUAs (pick up artists).
Don’t subscribe to it.

Here’s why….

Women have become such a liability in personal relationships and marriages, “success with women” can actually be defined as “successfully” avoiding the WRONG one. Oh yeah.

• Successfully avoiding divorce.
• Successfully avoiding paternity fraud and being trapped into fatherhood against your own better judgement
• Successfully avoiding a false accusation of “domestic violence”, “sexual harassment” or anything else.

^^ that’s success with women. And I escaped the noose myself , thanks to other men like the fine gents here.

Question: What’s the BEST thing that happens when you have the PUA kind of “success with women”?

Manswer: A simple sex act, a possible pregnancy — or an STD.

wow.

Even not going to prison is “success with women”.
You’ll learn to hearty “LOL” when anyone uses the term.

Keymaster wrote:

Enablr wrote:

I did not have succes with any woman, doubting my self that I could ever get a woman again – until I met . Having no successes at all

Let me tell you a little something about “success with women” – the kind you imply.

It’s bulls~~~. It doesn’t exist.
It’s a fabrication by PUAs (pick up artists).
Don’t subscribe to it.

Here’s why….

Women have become such a liability in personal relationships and marriages, “success with women” can actually be defined as “successfully” avoiding the WRONG one. Oh yeah.

• Successfully avoiding divorce.
• Successfully avoiding paternity fraud and being trapped into fatherhood against your own better judgement
• Successfully avoiding a false accusation of “domestic violence”, “sexual harassment” or anything else.

^^ that’s success with women. And I escaped the noose myself , thanks to other men like the fine gents here.

Question: What’s the BEST thing that happens when you have the PUA kind of “success with women”?

Manswer: A simple sex act, a possible pregnancy — or an STD.

wow.

Even not going to prison is “success with women”.
You’ll learn to hearty “LOL” when anyone uses the term.

This is exactly what I needed to hear. Especially this one with the paternity fraud. It has been the most frustrating through throughout the entire relationship with her – EXACLTY BECAUSE OF HER VIEW ON PREGNANCY, FATHERHOOD, ETC. I’ve been scared to f~~~ing death. I’ve felt miserable and worthless, having absolutely no self esteem or self worth when she tempted me to do sex without condoms. She kept telling me that she were on the pills, but given I knew her discipline towards taking them, it always kept me questioning whether she’ll become pregnant or not – and if so, I would have to pay for that mistake for the rest of my life. Luckily, I broke it off with her during her period, so I know that I can not be the biological father for any case, she would bring up to me since the break off. But man, it has been one of the most frustrating things that led me to the hospital. I had an excessive amount of stress, which just broke me and teared me down completely, and I have a very high stress-tolerant level.

In terms of the PUA-bulls~~~… Some years ago, when we were finishing high school, my friends kept following the Real Social Dynamics group on Youtube. They were the booming-PUAs out there and they just did everything they could to become like them: “we need to get laid and f~~~ as many women as we possibly can, boys”. But being the man that I am, I always had the idea that I would rather experience the world with one woman rather than having f~~~ed a hundred. Perhaps this is where the catholic part of me steps in. I don’t know. I always had the ambition of finding ‘the one’, but I just never really wanted to admit, or at least had the chance to finally say to my self that it is non-existing and it is nothing else but bulls~~~, because it simply doesn’t exist outside Hollywood.

I’ll follow your advice by heart. It is really what I needed. Thank you.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Anonymous wrote:

I still think we can rebuild him, faster, stronger, minus the bite marks and torn flesh from the tuna hunt!

One can’t be a war hero without having gone to war himself, right?

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Keymaster wrote:

jd anderson wrote:

Still think he needs a lot more red pill

That’s obvious.

Framed his fleeting comment on “success with women” – which he too easily said in passing, but it’s worth pressing the pause button on. Jumped off the page at me. He doesn’t realize how bad it is for him to think like that. A simple switch in attitude is all it takes. He may have an “AHA” moment.

It’s not worth beating himself up over. Not by a long shot.

Yeah… At least I am starting to learn about it now. Slowly getting the “aha”-moments – especially by reading many of the stories here. But in my opinion, it’s just something that you’re raised with. It’s hard to combat it without getting help from other, who have gone through the struggle already. Everywhere I go it promotes the Tinder-cultur, the f~~~-cultur, the relationship, the polygamy, the long term relationships, and so on… It’s a f~~~ing fest when it comes to this here. If you don’t follow it, you’re considered to be an outsider. A loser. An outcast. Something bad that just needs to be avoided, and with the basic human nature mindset that says ‘you need to be socially accepted in order for you to feel good about yourself’… Well… It’s hard. But at least it is possible to reprogram your mind and say ‘f~~~ you’ to the natural mindset by seeking comfort in one’s own company rather than others, and especially women’s company.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

Sorry @enablr – bad hair day over here in my world.

Hope you can enjoy your life on your own terms. There is a sense of internal pride and purpose from not needing “arm candy” IMHO.

Np

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

MACHO wrote:

Welcome Enablr, I have read a few paragraphs of your extensive intro and totally understand the reasons why this thread has gotten to this length. If it’s of any comforts to you it’s threads like these that spices up Mgtow.com

Good Luck

Enablr wrote:

First of all, I’d like to say good evening to every one of you gentlemen out there and thank you very much for letting me become a part of your community.

Now before I get started with my story, I’d like to mention that I am in desperate need of your help and your opinions as I am left with great pain and suffering, having no idea what to do and whether life is worth it or not

Haha, I see. Another user here sent me a PM about the red pill/blue pill theory and how it applies here, and I see why I triggered the ‘alphas’ here. I just had to be honest about how my mind is and how it affects me as a person. My logic was that if I could be as open and honest about what goes on, I could receive the best kind of help. I had no idea that it would backfire this much as it did.

Thanks for the welcoming. Have a great day.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

You see, KM, he is a clear Trollotuna. He will be reacting to any comment related to him by flooding the pages with text! It can last for weeks! 😀

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Suggestius wrote:

You see, KM, he is a clear Trollotuna. He will be reacting to any comment related to him by flooding the pages with text! It can last for weeks! 😀

Your argument is that I should not react to any comment related to me? What’s the point of asking for advice if I can’t open up for a further discussion regarding that very same advice? Enlighten me. It seems to be that you’ve lived out your usefulness here. Please leave the thread, thanks.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Meek Mill wrote:

Uly wrote:

I second that, iMickey503. Women are rarely honest at any point in their disillusioned lives. This is a rare treat of honesty that is worth making note of.

Amazing it takes a Keymaster here for you to open your eyes.

I don’t normally quote people, as it just wastes space, but I do not approve of misquoting me. I have deep reservations about you, but I respect the Key Master, and I will stand by his decisions. That said, my quote had nothing to do with you. It is wise to not start problems where there is none to be found.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Removed wrote:

Enablr wrote:

Uly wrote:

I second that, iMickey503. Women are rarely honest at any point in their disillusioned lives. This is a rare treat of honesty that is worth making note of.

Amazing it takes a Keymaster here for you to open your eyes.

I don’t normally quote people, as it just wastes space, but I do not approve of misquoting me. I have deep reservations about you, but I respect the Key Master, and I will stand by his decisions. That said, my quote had nothing to do with you. It is wise to not start problems where there is none to be found.

Let me help you with that. I don’t need your approval. I came here for advice. If you can’t deliver, simply don’t bother answering the thread. Plain and simple.

However, if your quote really had nothing to do with me, then I take it back and apologies. After all, I’ve been put with lots of horse s~~~ from other members (including you), so you clearly can empathize on my tendency to generalize here.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Honestly, no, I don’t empathize with internet frustrations. You cannot be bullied on the internet. That is a modern misconception, and if you feel like you are being bullied, you are doing it to yourself. These are the reasons that I have reservations about you. You show way too much feminine like sensitivity. This is not typical of male behavior, though it could be a generational gap, and young men are really that insecure.

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Removed wrote:

Honestly, no, I don’t empathize with internet frustrations. You cannot be bullied on the internet. That is a modern misconception, and if you feel like you are being bullied, you are doing it to yourself. These are the reasons that I have reservations about you. You show way too much feminine like sensitivity. This is not typical of male behavior, though it could be a generational gap, and young men are really that insecure.

Which is exactly what I stated earlier in this thread. If you happen to be a social constructionist, you’d know the saying ‘you are what your environment is’. I happen to have had that perspective in terms of my own life, and during my entire life I’ve been around women. It’s not unsual to internalize their behaviour, micro-expressions and logic into your own. If you look at my linkedin profile, you can see that I am not a f~~~~~ or anything. No. My mindset has been corrupted by this and I’ve struggled a lot by learning how to behave like a stereotypical man during CS-school. THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST TROUBLING ISSUES THAT I HAVE.

That is why I asked how it is possible to reprogram my mind and why I was so fixated on what the definition of a man is.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Your personality is yours. No matter how much brainwashing a person suffers, their personality still surfaces. This is one of the biggest problems with creating spies, as governments have discovered. They have to screen personalities, before they even consider you for training. If you want to be a man, you must let your personality rise. You can dress a monkey in a suite, put a jacket on a penguin; you can even teach a cat to use a toilet, but they will still be the creatures that they are. If you want to learn to be a man, first know yourself.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

That’s a powerful advice. I’ve not spent time on learning myself. Not in years at least. I can’t even tell what my hobbies are or what my talent is. I don’t even know any methodological way of doing so either…

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

It is trial and error. Life is about learning and discovering. If you try to define yourself without experiencing it, you will be defined by what you are taught instead of who you really are, and you will always be miserable. Your personality will always be trying to surface, and you will spend your life burying it with lies. This is how women live. They do so, because they don’t define themselves by their personality, but by what they can get and boast about. Life is short, much too short to live by comparing it to everyone around you. That is a woman’s life style, and never satisfying.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

I must say, Uly, that you’ve really made me question who I really am now… So to speak. For years I’ve always thought that it was necessary to compare yourself to others. Even when I always let myself to believe that I never did. That I never wanted to compete with others. That I didn’t give a s~~~ about them… Perhaps I did and always have – with their partners, education, jobs, achievements, financial state, family, friends and so on… I’ve felt miserable for years in terms of what I’ve achieved and who I really am. I’ve always considered myself to be in a place, where I don’t even belong and that my life is being wasted away, you know… Questioning everything whether something is worthwhile, you know… So thanks for really opening up my eyes haha.

But now I just can’t help but wonder: what are the most basic ways of trying to define yourself? I may be a very theoretical guy when it comes to work and life it self, but to get a more practical approach on life, I may be too green or even clueless: how do you get to know yourself? as in – What does it actually means to learn and discover life? Because this question has been raised before in former classrooms of mine (dominated by women of course), and the first thing I’d hear is something like “travelling” or “explore new people” (which always was put into a sexual context…….), and to me… It just seems like some utterly cliché bulls~~~. But yeah… What does it actually mean? From your perspective of course.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

A really good way to start to understand yourself is how you spend your time alone. Would you watch the same movie or play the same game, listen to the same music or any music at all? People like Justin Beiber became famous through trend and pressure. His music is complete s~~~, to be blunt. There was a study done, and most of his “fans” said that they would not listen to his music as a first choice, if not with friends, yet the music would be on the playlist for quick access when the friend pressure of being cool arrived. What you enjoy doing alone is a good first step of finding yourself.

Educate yourself. You cannot experience the world if you only take everyone’s word for it. Read and study things, getting multiple perspectives, and even partaking in the experience if you can. I always heard how horrible oysters are when raw. I never wanted to try it. I read some more on it, and learned the flavors that came unique to the dish, and I found in trying, that they are very delicious. I would have never known, had I just went with the first thing I was told or read.

Think before you answer a question about, what you would like. If you are with some friends, and they ask you what you would like to do, say something that you would find fun, not something just to fit in. Being a chameleon is a woman’s way of living. They always want to fit in, and then be better at whatever it is that they are all doing. That is no way to enjoy life. Men will never respect another guy that behaves like that, and you will always be the 4th guy, when there is a four player game, but never called for the other things.

These are very basic ways to start, but the hardest parts come with experiences. As you discover what your personality clicks with, and what just clashes badly, you will begin to feel easier about being yourself. In the long run, no one really cares if you are miserable, because they will just detach themselves from you eventually, with a sometimes exception to very close friends and family. When you are honest with yourself, and truly content, people gravitate to you. They do so, not because you are a better person, but because you are more fun to be around.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Meek Mill wrote:

Let me help you with that. I don’t need your approval. I came here for advice. If you can’t deliver, simply don’t bother answering the thread.

You have been adviced to get lost since the yesterday. What kind of the advice do you need else?

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Removed wrote:

A really good way to start to understand yourself is how you spend your time alone. Would you watch the same movie or play the same game, listen to the same music or any music at all? People like Justin Beiber became famous through trend and pressure. His music is complete s~~~, to be blunt. There was a study done, and most of his “fans” said that they would not listen to his music as a first choice, if not with friends, yet the music would be on the playlist for quick access when the friend pressure of being cool arrived. What you enjoy doing alone is a good first step of finding yourself.

Educate yourself. You cannot experience the world if you only take everyone’s word for it. Read and study things, getting multiple perspectives, and even partaking in the experience if you can. I always heard how horrible oysters are when raw. I never wanted to try it. I read some more on it, and learned the flavors that came unique to the dish, and I found in trying, that they are very delicious. I would have never known, had I just went with the first thing I was told or read.

Think before you answer a question about, what you would like. If you are with some friends, and they ask you what you would like to do, say something that you would find fun, not something just to fit in. Being a chameleon is a woman’s way of living. They always want to fit in, and then be better at whatever it is that they are all doing. That is no way to enjoy life. Men will never respect another guy that behaves like that, and you will always be the 4th guy, when there is a four player game, but never called for the other things.

These are very basic ways to start, but the hardest parts come with experiences. As you discover what your personality clicks with, and what just clashes badly, you will begin to feel easier about being yourself. In the long run, no one really cares if you are miserable, because they will just detach themselves from you eventually, with a sometimes exception to very close friends and family. When you are honest with yourself, and truly content, people gravitate to you. They do so, not because you are a better person, but because you are more fun to be around.

I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks for the kick-starter.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

NerdTunneler wrote:

I don’t get the ‘sniff sniff’ reference.

Stop digging hole and read…Live the life of other brothers here by reading their intros or their history…Perhaps you will get an inkling of what MGTOW is…

Enablr wrote:

I want to understand what a real man is.

You got hands? Now cup your b~~~~…Its still there? If it is, then its a start…

Second is to read so you can detox…Other people got it worse so learn from them…If you are really interested to go MGTOW be prepared to have your mind f~~~ed because only MEN emerges from the trial and laugh about it…

Keep reading earlier posts from vetted members, watch youtube sandman, human, turdflinging monkey, loyal eugene who is hosting big johns videos and countless others…

You are young, the pull of the plantation is still strong…And dont keep making excuses…Cut off the exes from social media and block them…Go to a gym, get a guy instructor and lift…one hour cardio and one hour weights daily…Push yourself to get out from that rut…In a month of daily gym you will be too tired to think about your ex and would feel better about yourself…

And read…If you waste our time here you get the empty chair…We cannot fix your life for you…Only YOU can do that…Understand that YOU HAVE THE CHOICE to be miserable or YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT….

Been watching it since yesterday – non stop. They have some f~~~ing amazing videos man, thanks for the reference. I’ve watched this one just now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq-E8Nq_aB0&index=42&list=UUudGalFyS2ogM1vNMVK_nQw
Man, it was really tough to see. So f~~~ing accurate. Boy, I’ve been f~~~ed with so many times, leading myself to have self-doubt, zero self-worth, questioning whether I’ll live well without my ex girlfriend in my life, questioning whether life is worth it… The suicide topic alone was tough… Damn. I am so happy to have joined this community.

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Meek Mill wrote:

Uly wrote:

Enablr wrote:

Uly wrote:

I second that, iMickey503. Women are rarely honest at any point in their disillusioned lives. This is a rare treat of honesty that is worth making note of.

Amazing it takes a Keymaster here for you to open your eyes.

I don’t normally quote people, as it just wastes space, but I do not approve of misquoting me. I have deep reservations about you, but I respect the Key Master, and I will stand by his decisions. That said, my quote had nothing to do with you. It is wise to not start problems where there is none to be found.

Let me help you with that. I don’t need your approval. I came here for advice. If you can’t deliver, simply don’t bother answering the thread. Plain and simple.

However, if your quote really had nothing to do with me, then I take it back and apologies. After all, I’ve been put with lots of horse s~~~ from other members (including you), so you clearly can empathize on my tendency to generalize here.

You came here to troll. Your romance novel porn candy fools nobody.

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