First of all thank you for letting me be a part of your community

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

I second that, iMickey503. Women are rarely honest at any point in their disillusioned lives. This is a rare treat of honesty that is worth making note of.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@Enablr I would like to welcome you. Thank you for joining. Please understand tough reception and apprehension comes from an influx of trolls we’ve seen. It’s not personal.

I don’t mind saying you have much to learn. Any “rejection” from a woman is a blessing and begins to get hilarious over time. Understand you’ve been socialized to think not having a girlfriend is some kind of “loss”. It isn’t.

Even the therapist / psychologist you saw said it’s “pathetic”. But that’s actually saying more about how upset you are — over something that’s really not very devastating.

Women only want you to think it’s devastating.
And you’re playing the part nicely.

Meek Mill wrote:

Every woman I’ve been with, has led me down

Take a cue from that. And start by having ZERO expectations – because that eliminates all disappointment . Otherwise your standards from women can be as high as you want.

Because no matter how LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for women, they will ALWAYS manage to fall below it.

Thank you for taking the time to make your intro and putting it out there.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ShineParticipant 1696]

Glad to see the KM here, some of these jerks are testing the new guy too much after he’s landed on this site needing help.

Half them probably didn’t read his story just wanted to get some bloody E peen tuna points.

"Society is to blame" Denton

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Enabler is a woman?

Not likely.

We’re not just making members forums participants “willy nilly” for a while now – at least until we get caught up with all those who wrote. This member also upgraded himself

Any new member who is “Ghost” actually upgraded to participate here. Women are the cheapest creatures on Earth.

So @Enablr…. I’ll go through this thread and delete the inappropriate junk which isn’t a direct reply (or quoting) what you said.

That’s fair. And the minimum of what you deserve.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

I still think we can rebuild him, faster, stronger, minus the bite marks and torn flesh from the tuna hunt!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Trolls… xD

Yes I saw that. But he was referring to his reception. I don’t blame him for thinking he’s being trolled.

A woman wouldn’t even write an intro like that – and she sure as f~~~ wouldn’t be conscientious enough to go back and split it into nice paragraphs to make it easier to read.

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If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Won’t normally do this, but this thread has been trimmed of junk while still remaining somewhat coherent. My last 3 posts will remain until tomorrow – or when / if @enablr sees them and understands/replies.

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The first time I made a post on a MGTOW forum, intros were mandatory there. I don’t know WTF I could have possibly said, but I was unapologetically banned and blocked for no reason. TWICE. The second time I was banned from even reading and visiting. It was tremendously hurtful.

It was a big motivator to create this place.
And I remember exactly how I felt that day.

A couple of years later, when we opened these forums, I swore intros would not be mandatory…. and ALL members who unload here are voluntarily glad to do it. I think that’s tremendous, and makes their testimonies 10x more valuable.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Meek Mill wrote:

I did not have succes with any woman, doubting my self that I could ever get a woman again – until I met . Having no successes at all

Let me tell you a little something about “success with women” – the kind you imply.

It’s bulls~~~. It doesn’t exist.
It’s a fabrication by PUAs (pick up artists).
Don’t subscribe to it.

Here’s why….

Women have become such a liability in personal relationships and marriages, “success with women” can actually be defined as “successfully” avoiding the WRONG one. Oh yeah.

• Successfully avoiding divorce.
• Successfully avoiding paternity fraud and being trapped into fatherhood against your own better judgement
• Successfully avoiding a false accusation of “domestic violence”, “sexual harassment” or anything else.

^^ that’s success with women. And I escaped the noose myself , thanks to other men like the fine gents here.

Question: What’s the BEST thing that happens when you have the PUA kind of “success with women”?

Manswer: A simple sex act, a possible pregnancy — or an STD.

wow.

Even not going to prison is “success with women”.
You’ll learn to hearty “LOL” when anyone uses the term.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Remove me!Participant]

If KM is good with him, I’m good with him.

Still think he needs a lot more red pill. But he can get that here.

Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Remove me! wrote:

Still think he needs a lot more red pill

That’s obvious.

Framed his fleeting comment on “success with women” – which he too easily said in passing, but it’s worth pressing the pause button on. Jumped off the page at me. He doesn’t realize how bad it is for him to think like that. A simple switch in attitude is all it takes. He may have an “AHA” moment.

It’s not worth beating himself up over. Not by a long shot.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

Sorry @enablr – bad hair day over here in my world.

Hope you can enjoy your life on your own terms. There is a sense of internal pride and purpose from not needing “arm candy” IMHO.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[AttonParticipant]

Find purpose in things other than the women folk and you will be fine.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome Enablr, I have read a few paragraphs of your extensive intro and totally understand the reasons why this thread has gotten to this length. If it’s of any comforts to you it’s threads like these that spices up Mgtow.com

Good Luck

Meek Mill wrote:

First of all, I’d like to say good evening to every one of you gentlemen out there and thank you very much for letting me become a part of your community.

Now before I get started with my story, I’d like to mention that I am in desperate need of your help and your opinions as I am left with great pain and suffering, having no idea what to do and whether life is worth it or not

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

KM, that one definitely didn’t act like a mature man. If someone asked for my opinion I would presume Enablr is either a woman or a kind of hysterical type of a man. It’s strange enough to call the whole MGTOW as a bunch of losers at the same time saying about glad to be here. It’s like come to someone’s home and say out loud something like “Such a s~~~ty place to be in!”

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Thank you Keymaster for taking the time to help me out. I’ll get to your replies very soon. I just finished work an hour ago and got home. My timezone is a little bit different than yours, probably 8 to 10 hours difference. Anyway, I must say that I am honestly, really surprised to be met by this amount of paranoid assholes, who apparently had nothing else to do but to lash out on me for no f~~~ing reason. Amazing that it takes THIS MUCH to just get a little bit of respect, however, now that it is done, I can finally proceed with what I came here for. To develop myself and change my mindset. So again, thank you for initiating this and letting it become a reality for me.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Suggestius wrote:

KM, that one definitely didn’t act like a mature man. If someone asked for my opinion I would presume Enablr is either a woman or a kind of hysterical type of a man. It’s strange enough to call the whole MGTOW as a bunch of losers at the same time saying about glad to be here. It’s like come to someone’s home and say out loud something like “Such a s~~~ty place to be in!”

Stop twisting the whole f~~~ing thing to your advantage. That’s what women do. I was met by both nice and s~~~ users here, and it was addressed to the s~~~ users, wasn’t it Captain Obvious? And yes, if someone’s house is a s~~~ty place, at least I have the decency and courage to be f~~~ing genuine, honest and respectful enough to help out for improvement – as any other man would. Aren’t you against women putting filters on? But wouldn’t that same logic apply for you too? Oh, and yes. I may be hysterical. As I stated out, during my entire youth and teenage years, I was raised by a woman and had mostly female-classmates. It took me 22 years until I got into a working environment, where the social play-rules and behaviour was imprinted by males. Just as I stated earlier in this thread. But you were too busy being paranoid and tuna-hungry. Pay for a prostitute and let off that paranoid-bulls~~~ attitude the next time instead of lash it out on others.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Removed wrote:

I second that, iMickey503. Women are rarely honest at any point in their disillusioned lives. This is a rare treat of honesty that is worth making note of.

Amazing it takes a Keymaster here for you to open your eyes.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Keymaster wrote:

@enablr I would like to welcome you. Thank you for joining. Please understand tough reception and apprehension comes from an influx of trolls we’ve seen. It’s not personal.

I don’t mind saying you have much to learn. Any “rejection” from a woman is a blessing and begins to get hilarious over time. Understand you’ve been socialized to think not having a girlfriend is some kind of “loss”. It isn’t.

Even the therapist / psychologist you saw said it’s “pathetic”. But that’s actually saying more about how upset you are — over something that’s really not very devastating.

Women only want you to think it’s devastating.
And you’re playing the part nicely.

Enablr wrote:

Every woman I’ve been with, has led me down

Take a cue from that. And start by having ZERO expectations – because that eliminates all disappointment . Otherwise your standards from women can be as high as you want.

Because no matter how LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for women, they will ALWAYS manage to fall below it.

Thank you for taking the time to make your intro and putting it out there.

Yeah, it’s cool. None taken. It just tilted me really badly. Worse than LoL-players (if any of you are familiar with that community).

I am aware now. I’ve gotten some private messages from very helpful users yesterday, and I’ve read some of their stories on different sections of the forums. Having doing so, I am absolutely surprised to see this many men whom have been let down in either a similar or much worser way than me. When this has happened to me, I thought that it was just me and that I was very unlucky and unfortunate. As if I deserved the punishment. I believed it for a very long time, and at some time, I still do. I believed that because of the bad decisions I’ve made in the past, this was Karma’s way (or at least God’s way) of having the revenge back at me, you know… Every where I go in this town, it is so orientated on being on Tinder, having a partner, attending clubs and parties, f~~~ f~~~ f~~~ and so on… I am mentally exhausted. My mind has had enough and I honestly want to move away from this s~~~ty place. On top of this, I’ve experienced ‘character assasination’ on my real life persona around these women and their friends, and as we live in a small town here, everyone just knows everyone. The ‘character assasination’ was a term I’ve learned from another user here, and I just want to ask you guys: after having made poor decisions, and on your way of reinventing yourself – how the hell do you survive, or at least, recover from character assasination?

In addition to having zero expectations to your surroundings. I’ve tried that method before. I always seek new methodological approaches when grasping new ideas but it’s just so hard man. Some times I feel like my mind isn’t wired to just have zero expectations to people. During my school time, it was one of the most difficult challenges I had because I expected people to do their s~~~, or if not, all hell would break lose and I would make the project-working lives miserable until the product we were building on was absolutely perfect. Having that same mindset also applied to the women, I had relationships with. I always had expectations. Very high expectations even, and I’ve never really taken the time to actually apply this way of thinking into my life on any scope of it. I’ll work on this because I’ve seen this appear more and more and apparently it is working, but for me, man… It’s a tough one.

You’re welcome. Thank you for welcoming me into this community. I am still very grateful to be a part of it. I just hated the way my first thread had to be, but I suppose s~~~ happens here occasionally as well. Have a great day.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Keymaster wrote:

Enabler is a woman?

Not likely.

We’re not just making members forums participants “willy nilly” for a while now – at least until we get caught up with all those who wrote. This member also upgraded himself

Any new member who is “Ghost” actually upgraded to participate here. Women are the cheapest creatures on Earth.

So @enablr…. I’ll go through this thread and delete the inappropriate junk which isn’t a direct reply (or quoting) what you said.

That’s fair. And the minimum of what you deserve.

My details on my credit card used to pay for my subscription has my name on it. That very same name can be checked on LinkedIn, Google and what not. It’s not hard to figure out who the hell the person is behind a screen nowadays, lol. But I suppose the morons couldn’t think this step ahead before hunting for tuna or whatever it is called here.

Thank you very much for trimming the thread. You didn’t have to do that. It was more than enough that you addressed the issue. Some other members have sent private messages regarding that very same matter (trolls being a problem here for new users), so I know that this doesn’t count for everyone. They were just dominating the thread, so I had the sense of it representing nearly everyone here.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Keymaster wrote:

Won’t normally do this, but this thread has been trimmed of junk while still remaining somewhat coherent. My last 3 posts will remain until tomorrow – or when / if @enablr sees them and understands/replies.

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The first time I made a post on a MGTOW forum, intros were mandatory there. I don’t know WTF I could have possibly said, but I was unapologetically banned and blocked for no reason. TWICE. The second time I was banned from even reading and visiting. It was tremendously hurtful.

It was a big motivator to create this place.
And I remember exactly how I felt that day.

A couple of years later, when we opened these forums, I swore intros would not be mandatory…. and ALL members who unload here are voluntarily glad to do it. I think that’s tremendous, and makes their testimonies 10x more valuable.

Thanks for sharing your story on the first time being here. I don’t mind sharing my story at all. I am glad that people read it and I am so happy that people have taken the time to help me out. Hell, it isn’t even the full story. I wrote a 52-page long journal on my experiences with this woman, and I just took the most pressuring matters into account when creating this topic. My greatest desire, when I decided to make this thread, was to know if any other man here have been dealt with the same s~~~ test that I’ve been dealt with, and what their coping mechanisms were during the recovery/reinventing yourself time…

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