Do MGTOW’s look down on drug users?

[Anonymous 42]

It’sallbs wrote:

I couldn’t give two shiny s~~~s what anyone thinks of me or what I do or don’t do.

I’ve done allot of plainishing, burnishing, and polishing but never did it think one could put a shine on s~~~! Leave alone a shine on two!

[Anonymous 54]

So I guess to anwser your initial question

Some Mgtow will look down on you, some wont.

Pretty representitve of the real world.

But I do beleive a Boss has a right to expect a sober employee.

Unless you know hes cool with it.

Oh, did I mention, I moved to Colorodo…

[QuellParticipant 2538]

For me weed is a fantastic way for me to become more creative and/or melt into my couch.

I love listening to music so that I can selectively listen to whatever instrument in a song. For example I can just focus on the base or the trumpet.

To each their own though. I suggest everyone try drugs at least once just to get a feel for it but if you don’t hey, no skin off my back.

[Anonymous 1]

It depends on the user. All the friends I had, who used to do heroin and melt down Crack Cocaine to shoot it up. Guess what, they are all dead now. Weed and Alcohol and I’m still kicking. Did mushrooms until I had that one BAD trip, where you never do them again after that. Everything in moderation, that’s the key.

[Anonymous 54]

Quell wrote:

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I love listening to music so that I can selectively listen to whatever instrument in a song. For example I can just focus on the base or the trumpet.

Wow! Half the cats I work with dont have ears this big! Coooool!

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, did I mention, I moved to Colorodo…

I didn’t have to move to Grassachusetts, I was already here!

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

Oh, did I mention, I moved to Colorodo…

I didn’t have to move to Grassachusetts, I was already here!

Yeah, I went and left! Damn…..

[OldBillParticipant]

Tazz wrote:

What are your guys views on people who use drugs?

There’s a great difference between being a drug user and a drug addict.

We’re here to regain our personal sovereignty from society and women. Why do that if you’re just going to hand that sovereignty over to drugs or booze?

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

I don’t know if I look down on users, I know a guy who does weed and someone who did some hard s~~~ because he was going through hard times, but I think I look down on enablers even more. If you’re knowingly helping someone else f~~~ their lives up then you’re a piece of s~~~ in my book, I don’t mean you have to be actively getting them to quit to not be an enabler, but if you’re helping them get the drugs whether by supplying them yourself or helping them buy the drugs, making excuses for them, whatever, you’re an enabler. As for the drug users themselves, as I said, I’m not sure whether or not I look down on them as there are a myriad of reasons why they do them, some of which may be understandable, but I certainly don’t have any sympathy for users if they f~~~ed themselves up, especially if they knew better and did it anyway, regardless of the excuse.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22596]

Vitamins and legal drugs are not what the op meant when he asked the question and you know that.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22596]

No offense but your response is what a woman does. Assumes bad intent and takes answers as personal attacks to retaliate full bore.

OP asked a question, guys answer what they believe. You get p~~~y because some guys disagree with you. So what if they think different from you? They are not answering to change your mind or giveyou grief, they were answering another persons posted question. Youre like a chick that can’t handle a guy not agreeing with her on stuff. You take an answer to a question not even about you specifically as some kind of personal attack. And go scorched earth in response.

We are not monolithic groupthink here. Answers that differ from yours are not necessarily attacks on you personally. Dont be a woman and assume those with different opinions are just targeting you and making it all about you. YOU made this about you, no one else did.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22596]

moderation.

I dont think that is possible with everything.

Can you find a person who is able to moderately use meth?

Can you find a person who can use crack in moderation?

In moderation meaning they can stop anytime they want, they have 100% control, are not addicted, and their lives have not gotten worse in ANY way by using. Including physical health. Meth and crack fail right here.

I think some of these drugs pull all who use them into addiction. You just need more and more to get the same level of high, it f~~~s up your brain that way.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

It’s your life.
You can do whatever you like.

Just don’t complain to me about the consequences.

Monk

[bstoffParticipant 4921]

I think there is a big variety of people here with varying opinions on drug use.
I’ve tried a lot of different things in the past and luckily, never got hooked.

When you’re going your own way, you are free to do whatever the hell you want. Some of us here might indicate concern for your health or safety, but hopefully, no one tries to control anyone.

I think some people have a genetic propensity to get addicted to things.
I have smokers, drinkers and gamblers in mind to fit into that group, as well.

The only people that get “run off” are the ones who keep pushing whatever their agenda is. It’s not just the TradCons, either.
Obviously, that’s not a good idea in a forum for men literally going their own way, and nobody else’s’. Right?

Live and let live or live and let die, I guess.

[Anonymous 14]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Vitamins and legal drugs are not what the op meant when he asked the question and you know that.

Marijuana is legal in many states now, and the guy who’s argument you seem to be supporting by rebutting a rebuttal that was directed towards him was railing against it, putting it in the same sentence with coke and heroin…

[Anonymous 14]

surfdude12 wrote:

Stargazer wrote:

This kind of collectivist thinking is exactly what’s wrong with the world today. What distinguishes us is not what is inside of our bodies nor what size, shape or color they are… it is our values that make us distinct and that make some of us better than others.

If one adopts and exercises good values, they are a good person and will tend to experience desirable outcomes in their life’s activities. But if a person believes that we are all equally unremarkable and interchangeable and that values mean nothing then they most likely will not.

Perfect summation of Objectivist reality, as oppose to the Subjectivism (a.k.a Post Modernism) s~~~ we’re living in now where “everything is subjective”, gender doesn’t exist, feelings are facts, basically the ENTIRE FEMINIST LOGIC.

Uh, the rest of his argument was subjective to what he felt was moral and immoral, nothing was objective about it as he felt some drugs were ok even if they did more damage to the individual or society than others he felt were not ok. He felt drinking was ok, but lumped in smoking weed with doing coke and heroin.

[trader1913Participant 1577]

I don’t care, just don’t try to force me to take something.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

Anonymous wrote:

surfdude12 wrote:

Stargazer wrote:

This kind of collectivist thinking is exactly what’s wrong with the world today. What distinguishes us is not what is inside of our bodies nor what size, shape or color they are… it is our values that make us distinct and that make some of us better than others.

If one adopts and exercises good values, they are a good person and will tend to experience desirable outcomes in their life’s activities. But if a person believes that we are all equally unremarkable and interchangeable and that values mean nothing then they most likely will not.

Perfect summation of Objectivist reality, as oppose to the Subjectivism (a.k.a Post Modernism) s~~~ we’re living in now where “everything is subjective”, gender doesn’t exist, feelings are facts, basically the ENTIRE FEMINIST LOGIC.

Uh, the rest of his argument was subjective to what he felt was moral and immoral, nothing was objective about it as he felt some drugs were ok even if they did more damage to the individual or society than others he felt were not ok. He felt drinking was ok, but lumped in smoking weed with doing coke and heroin.

You’re demonstrating his point right now. I argue X and you reply “but Y says…”

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

The reason I have never signed another marriage contract is that it could result in me losing my money, home, job, rights and freedom. I’m just not willing to take that risk in exchange for whatever positive thing it (supposedly) is that a marriage is going to do for me.

I avoid using drugs for the exact same reason: I’m unwilling to risk my home, money, job, freedom etc… all of which can disappear to a drug addiction just as easily as they can disappear in a divorce court.

I will not look down on you if you wish to take either of these risks with your own money, home, job etc. But I am no more likely to join you than I am to join all those married men who believe their marriage is worth that risk, and constantly try to tell me how great it is.

For those who would tell me that your drug is different, or your habit is different and so you are not taking that risk, I would tell you that you sound a lot like my married friends who tell me that their wives are different…

I’ll wish you the best of luck on your journey, but I will not be joining you on the path you’ve chosen.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22596]

BrainPilot wrote:

The reason I have never signed another marriage contract is that it could result in me losing my money, home, job, rights and freedom. I’m just not willing to take that risk in exchange for whatever positive thing it (supposedly) is that a marriage is going to do for me.

I avoid using drugs for the exact same reason: I’m unwilling to risk my home, money, job, freedom etc… all of which can disappear to a drug addiction just as easily as they can disappear in a divorce court.

Good point here.

Do we look up to betas and simps stuck in the matrix, making voluntary choices that we consider to be high risk behavior given what we know/lived through/saw others live through? Guys who made choices and lost everything, only to keep doing it over and over? We do not look upto these men.

We have people posting here major posts about staying away from women, the one phone call the for the love of god do not do it – I have made such post replies. We take the risks of women very seriously here, we beg guys to wake the f~~~ up and stay away if they want to be free.

Drugs are just as high risk as women. People taking such high risks risk their health and govt can take away evrything you workedfor plus your freedom. Sounds like the same scenario divorce gives to beta/simp guys.

I cant look up to these beta/simp guys taking terrible risks with women that can lose everything, I cant look up to drug users taking high risks, that can lose everything, with drugs.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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