Do MGTOW’s look down on drug users?

[HermitParticipant]

It depends on the user. If you’re not hurting anyone but yourself, I don’t care. If you’re a jobless meth head who steals from people, then……(out of respect to those who run this site, I will refrain from what I believe should happen to a jobless meth head who steals).

I have a friend who does all kinds of different drugs. Watched him smoke some s~~~ out of a glass pipe the other day. I sure don’t want to try it and never will, but I still consider him my friend.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Anonymous 42]

Hermit wrote:

Watched him smoke some s~~~ out of a glass pipe the other day.

What was he smoking? Crack, Horse, or Shatter? If it’s shatter I want to try some! The other’s are narcotic and opioids, F~~~ THAT! Shatter is natural extract (good).

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22548]

Maybe since you are focusing on “drug users”, explain to us why drug users should be looked up to?

Why should smokers be looked up to? Why should drinkers be looked up to? Why should pussy chasers be looked up to?

There isnt enough info when you say “drug users”. Many are casual and seem to be functioning fine. Some seem to be fine but are not. Many are outright in deep trouble and cause problems for others. They are all drug users but they are not all the same or should be considered the same.

Its really more of an issue for people, with anything, if someone cannot control themselves and becomes overtaken by whatever now owns them. Addicts of any kind do dangerous s~~~ to themselves and others because they have let something be master over themselves at the expense of everything else.

If they are addicts and mess up others lives, that is not good and they should not be looked up to. It isnt about looking down on them, its just identifying people you dont want to be around.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[HermitParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Hermit wrote:

Watched him smoke some s~~~ out of a glass pipe the other day.

What was he smoking? Crack, Horse, or Shatter? It’s it’s shatter I want to try some! The other’s are narcotic and opioids, F~~~ THAT! Shatter is natural extract (good).

I think he said it was meth. I was concerned about breathing in some of the second hand smoke and what it might do to me. When he put the fire to it, it turned to a blackish liquid. As it cooled, it turned back to a light colored coating on the glass. Not something I’m ever gonna’ try. I’d rather have a cold beer in a frosted frozen mug.

……and yes, I believe too much alcohol is a bad thing as well. I don’t enjoy being drunk and do not do that anymore.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Anonymous 5]

Smoke meth, and hail Satan!

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Tazz wrote:

Ive done acid, xans, percs, lean, tried coke once (didnt like it forreal), and i smoke weed on the regular. Alot of people look down on me (especially females) when they find this out about me despite the fact i have my own apartment which is kept extremely clean, i have two good paying jobs, and i have myself together finacially for a person in their early 20’s. What are your guys views on people who use drugs?

Are you insecure about your drug use? Is that why you’re asking? If that’s the case, it’s probably a good indicator you shouldn’t be doing it. But do what you want. You’re a grown man. I don’t give a s~~~. I personally would recommend you NOT do drugs, since we’re about men making progress in their lives here, and drugs are a self destructive problem. But like I said. Your body, your choice.

[Anonymous 54]

El Punto to the rescue!

Yes,
Why do you ask Tazz?

[Branched offParticipant 10980]

I believe in freedom. It is part of going one’s own way -one is free to choose well and to choose badly.

I only look down on drug users when their choices have affected their ability to perform well in life (this is sadly fairly common among regular users but rarely a problem with occasional users.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Drugs can be worse then women. Depending on the drug it can end up controlling your life.

I expect in the near future more people will be smoking weed. The beer of this generation.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

It would be easier to list the drugs I have not tried, which is Heroin – Full Stop.

I think its OK as long as you follow my 3 rules:

1.) Never let drugs cause you to lose your job.
2.) Never let drugs cause you to lose relationships with friends and family.
3.) Never let drugs cause you to lose a roof over your head.

Sounds like you are already doing these…

Having said that, after a wild period from age 16-37 I have stopped all drug use except for weed. I don’t regret my drug use because it was a function of who I was at the time and my way of coping with an unhappy childhood.

I will say I am paying the cost now with poor health. You seem like a young guy and I would think about why you are doing drugs in the first place and make a conscious cost benefit analysis.

And although I as a MGTOW have no problem with it… drugs can be a harsh mistress and are you really MGTOW with the time and money spent on drugs? Just a thought.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I totally look down on drug users, but not because I’m MGTOW.

I believe that you are free to do whatever you want to do to yourself, so long as you are not hurting anyone else. That includes using drugs… though I do find it difficult to believe that an otherwise decent person can use drugs without harming someone else at some point.

Nevertheless, do what you want. It’s your body.

But destroying your body is immoral. I define “moral” as simply the preservation of one’s own health, wealth and welfare. You want to destroy yourself with drugs? Go ahead… but don’t expect me to accept that you are a decent, moral person.

And when your drug addiction starts to hurt others, I will say you are unethical as well.

Again, do what you want, but I will have a very low opinion of you.

And as a MGHOW, I have to add that drug addiction sounds a lot more like going drugs’ way rather than going your own way. But again, it’s none of my business how you live your life. You go right on expending your time, effort and resources getting high and I’ll go right on believing you’re a piece of s~~~.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Nope, only when they don’t try to get help

Anonymous wrote:

Dont let drugs ruin your life

Venom and Old Sage beat me to it.

Short answer No.

[Anonymous 54]

Stargazer wrote:

I totally look down on drug users,

But destroying your body is immoral. I define “moral” as simply the preservation of one’s own health, wealth and welfare.

So if a guy eats junk food and doesnt work out, I should look down on him?

Too stoned to fight! You win!!! Hahh

By the way, how many sit ups do you do a day?

[Anonymous 5]

Stargazer wrote:

I totally look down on drug users, but not because I’m MGTOW.

I believe that you are free to do whatever you want to do to yourself, so long as you are not hurting anyone else. That includes using drugs… though I do find it difficult to believe that an otherwise decent person can use drugs without harming someone else at some point.

Nevertheless, do what you want. It’s your body.

But destroying your body is immoral. I define “moral” as simply the preservation of one’s own health, wealth and welfare. You want to destroy yourself with drugs? Go ahead… but don’t expect me to accept that you are a decent, moral person.

And when your drug addiction starts to hurt others, I will say you are unethical as well.

Again, do what you want, but I will have a very low opinion of you.

And as a MGHOW, I have to add that drug addiction sounds a lot more like going drugs’ way rather than going your own way. But again, it’s none of my business how you live your life. You go right on expending your time, effort and resources getting high and I’ll go right on believing you’re a piece of s~~~.

With all due respect, your ignorant opinion means jack s~~~ to the rest of us.

You look down on drug users? Get off your f~~~ing high horse.

You’re not better than the next person. We’re all guts inside, nothing more.

I hope you don’t take your ignorant mindset to the grave.

[Anonymous 42]

Hermit wrote:

I think he said it was meth. I was concerned about breathing in some of the second hand smoke and what it might do to me.

If it’s in the air you breath it’s in your body, however at much lower considerations. Zero exposure is the safe bet! F~~~ that garbage!

743 roadmaster wrote:

I expect in the near future more people will be smoking weed. The beer of this generation.

I can’t argue with that, like women they realize weed won’t land them in jail or cloud their ability for logical thinking and rational behavior. They know that unlike most other drugs it doesn’t have a narcotic effect on the central nervous system.

Weed is also shown to curtail chemical dependency on opioids.

With the rash of heroin and Oxycontin addiction over the last 20 years I suspect weed will be very popular with recovering addicts.

Anonymous wrote:

Get off your f~~~ing high horse.

(NFG), it looks like he doesn’t have to, you knocked him off!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

So the five percent that doesn’t do drugs is looking down on the ninety five percent that does at least one drug and yes, caffeine, anti-acids and vitamins count.

You judgmental pricks can suck my glorious dick.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 54]

Hes lucky Im all f~~~ed up!! Hahah

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

So if a guy eats junk food and doesnt work out, I should look down on him?

Where in my post did you read anything about what I believe YOU should think?

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

With all due respect, your ignorant opinion means jack s~~~ to the rest of us.

You look down on drug users? Get off your f~~~ing high horse.

I’m fine with you not liking my opinion, but it CLEARLY meant something to you.

You’re not better than the next person. We’re all guts inside, nothing more.

I could not disagree with this sentiment any more strenuously. If the only thing that distinguished one person from another was, as you say, their viscera, we would all be essentially equal.

This kind of collectivist thinking is exactly what’s wrong with the world today. What distinguishes us is not what is inside of our bodies nor what size, shape or color they are… it is our values that make us distinct and that make some of us better than others.

If one adopts and exercises good values, they are a good person and will tend to experience desirable outcomes in their life’s activities. But if a person believes that we are all equally unremarkable and interchangeable and that values mean nothing then they most likely will not.

Maybe that’s why people do drugs? Because they’re already convinced that they actually are pieces of s~~~? Well if that is the case, then I can not judge any “recreational” drug user any more harshly than they have already judged themselves.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

and yes, caffeine, anti-acids and vitamins count.

This tired argument again?

I believe we are all adult enough to make a qualititave distinction between someone who consumes a cup of coffee in the afternoon or a c~~~tail with friends or who takes vitamin supplements or reasonable medications from someone who gets baked on weed every day or snorts coke or shoots heroin purely for recreational purposes.

There is a spectrum of what constitutes immoral recreational drug use. Toward the middle it gets difficult to judge… but the underlying values do not change just because some of the cases are complex.

Only one with the mind of a child or someone who is in intense denial would propose otherwise.

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