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You are not afraid because you believe there is nothing else and you will blink out of existence and that will be that. I am not afraid of death because I believe this physical life will be over and I will be released into another plane of existence, the spiritual one.
I would think that the concept of death would be much harder on the believer. If their particular faith has a Hell, how could any one of them be absolutely, positively certain that they won’t end up there?
How it is possible that they know for sure that they’ll be going to a Heaven???
That’s a fair question, but I don’t know that I could explain it so that someone who doesn’t believe could understand it, at least not without sounding preachy. I’ll just say that I’ve done what I believe I’m supposed to do to go to Heaven.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Now I ask the believers, why do you wanna keep existing after your death?
Some believers will imagine Heaven to be a place where you would go to lie in the soft grass listening to pleasant harp music for an eternity. Something that you’d get tired of doing after 5 minutes here on earth.
I think it was Mark Twain who might have said that…
S~~~, I hope that’s not what it’s like. LOL I have no idea what is beyond this physical plane, but I imagine that we’ll be able to do things and see things that we can’t do or see now because of the physical limitations of these bodies. I think it’ll be pretty cool. I imagine that if I wanted to stand on the surface of Mars, I just think about it and I’ll be there.
I don’t know and it doesn’t matter that much because I just believe that it will be better than this physical existence that we all have to experience now.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
That’s a fair question, but I don’t know that I could explain it so that someone who doesn’t believe could understand it, at least not without sounding preachy. I’ll just say that I’ve done what my belief says you’re supposed to do to go to Heaven.
That makes sense. Assuming of course that you know with certainty that you have the one true faith (or variant of) and that you believe in the one true god. If I were still a believer, that would be one thing that would bother me. I just couldn’t be that confident…
If there is an afterlife and any intelligent existence is calling the shot over there and I make it by some reason to “heaven”, my only wish is to be reduced to nothing.
I just want it to be over, forever.
I just hope that if there is anything like a god he will listen to my desire.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
That’s a fair question, but I don’t know that I could explain it so that someone who doesn’t believe could understand it, at least not without sounding preachy. I’ll just say that I’ve done what my belief says you’re supposed to do to go to Heaven.
That makes sense. Assuming of course that you have the one true faith (or variant of) and that you believe in the one true god. If I were still a believer, that would be one thing that would bother me. I just couldn’t be that confident…
I actually edited my post after you quoted it. I didn’t like what I said about “what my belief says you’re supposed to do”. It sounded too religious and it wasn’t accurate. I changed it to say, “…..what I BELIEVE I’M supposed to do……”. My point for changing this is, I don’t believe the way I do, or live my life according to what any man says I should do. I don’t live a perfect life, but I do what I believe God wants me to do, not some organized religion. That’s why I’m not worried about any “one true faith” as you put it.
No matter which religion it is, all of them are just religious nonsense. I’ve separated myself from religions. For me, it isn’t about which one is right. It’s just me and God. There is nothing else I need to concern myself with. That’s why I don’t need confidence. It’s just what I believe.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I used to be afraid of death and I’m a doctor. One of the ways I dealt with going into a field where death is a constant companinion is to go into pathology were I looked at microscope slides to diagnose cancer. I didn’t have to interact with patients that were dying.
Then three years ago my brother got colon cancer. I had already retired so became his primary caretaker. He only lasted 7 months and died of advanced colon cancer, a horrible way to go, but his experience was not so terrible.
We had hope of a cure until 2 weeks before he died when it was discovered the cancer had spread widely.
I took care of him in a home hospice situation. He was confortable, in pain but on morphine.
He went out peacefully in his own bed.
I no longer fear death.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I used to be afraid of death and I’m a doctor. One of the ways I dealt with going into a field where death is a constant companinion is to go into pathology were I looked at microscope slides to diagnose cancer. I didn’t have to interact with patients that were dying.
Then three years ago my brother got colon cancer. I had already retired so became his primary caretaker. He only lasted 7 months and died of advanced colon cancer, a horrible way to go, but his experience was not so terrible.
We had hope of a cure until 2 weeks before he died when it was discovered the cancer had spread widely.
I took care of him in a home hospice situation. He was confortable, in pain but on morphine.
He went out peacefully in his own bed.
I no longer fear death.
Good for him.
I hope to die in a mountain alone, after three days of dragging my body on the floor with a broken hip or weak and covered on s~~~ on my own bed.
Is gonna be a hell, but I’m waiting for it, I’m ok with it, that is the best death condition I aspire to have.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I tend to think of God and death with the assumption that I severely lack the proper perspective to understand and pass any judgement in that regard. So if God exists, it makes on some level to say that He is evil for letting people die and having a hell. However, that assume we have all the facts and are capable of understanding all the factors involved in order to make a judgement. Man likes to think he’s got all the facts, but it’s entirely possible that we understand very little of the world around us.
We only recently realized that time is actually a 4th dimension, to understand how time and space are related. And we don’t even really understand that too well, as it’s not something we can see and feel with our senses, as we can with the first 3 dimensions. Who’s to say that there isn’t a 5th or more dimensions, that are also beyond our comprehension? If a God exists, a creator of the universe, he clearly has a full understand of the universe, well beyond what we can comprehend. If that is the case, how can we with such little understanding, pass judgement on God. It’s really not so different then a child passing judgement on his parents when the parent has the kids best interest at heart.
Taking this a little further, it’s difficult to then state that an afterlife, if it exists, needs to be a certain way. We can only make that judgement about what we know about the world, assuming we have the same knowledge after death that we have now. If part of dying includes a greater knowledge of the universe, or whatever exists there is, then it’s probably that we think we will want from an afterlife is completely wrong. Life on other could be just a blip on our total exists, as inconsequential as my morning constitutional in the grand scheme of things. Then again, maybe not.
As far as hell goes, I like the way C.S Lewis put in the book The Great Divorce (I think) where he looks at Hell from the perspective that Hell is the choice people go to by choice, by there rejection of God’s offerings, more than then a punishment by God for rejecting Him during life. In other words, they are forever on their quest to do life (or afterlife) without God, and thus their relative torment is by their own chose and is a prison solely of their own making. God is not to blame for this, since he is offering another option. Forcing people to accept this option means no free will, which would mean there is no love since there is no love without choice.
I don’t think that’s a 100% accurate, but again, I also think that God and afterlife, if they exist, are beyond our ability to comprehend.
Ok. Then do it.
One thing I have noticed observing death in other families, is that
Seems like sure they love you but they really can’t wait for you to go so they can get back to their lives and start fighting over your s~~~.
Anonymous6Sorry to hear that Joller, it can be relieving to know that there is an end to this circus, what would truly frighten me would be if there was no end!
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That’s a fair question, but I don’t know that I could explain it so that someone who doesn’t believe could understand it, at least not without sounding preachy. I’ll just say that I’ve done what my belief says you’re supposed to do to go to Heaven.
That makes sense. Assuming of course that you have the one true faith (or variant of) and that you believe in the one true god. If I were still a believer, that would be one thing that would bother me. I just couldn’t be that confident…
I actually edited my post after you quoted it. I didn’t like what I said about “what my belief says you’re supposed to do”. It sounded too religious and it wasn’t accurate. I changed it to say, “…..what I BELIEVE I’M supposed to do……”. My point for changing this is, I don’t believe the way I do, or live my life according to what any man says I should do. I don’t live a perfect life, but I do what I believe God wants me to do, not some organized religion. That’s why I’m not worried about any “one true faith” as you put it.
No matter which religion it is, all of them are just religious nonsense. I’ve separated myself from religions. For me, it isn’t about which one is right. It’s just me and God. There is nothing else I need to concern myself with. That’s why I don’t need confidence. It’s just what I believe.
You want to be with me don’t you….on a cloud reciting poems, with Gabriel playing the harp.
For me, it isn’t about which one is right. It’s just me and God. There is nothing else I need to concern myself with. That’s why I don’t need confidence. It’s just what I believe.
But how can you be sure that you’ve even picked the right god? I mean there have been countless different gods throughout the centuries. One of the gods that many people acknowledge today as being the one ‘true’ god has only been around for a couple of thousand years. That’s barely a blink of an eye relative to the entire history of mankind.
Followers of different gods are just as sure of their own god as you are of yours. Had you been born 2500 years ago, you would not even have had the same choice of gods that there are today. How do you reconcile this in your own mind? I’m sincerely curious about this…
One thing I have noticed observing death in other families, is that
Seems like sure they love you but they really can’t wait for you to go so they can get back to their lives and start fighting over your s~~~.After someone dies is when you get to see what people are really all about. I intentionally had myself written out of my father’s will. My (adoptive) siblings are all total assholes. I wanted nothing to do with them after dad died…
As far as hell goes, I like the way C.S Lewis put in the book The Great Divorce (I think) where he looks at Hell from the perspective that Hell is the choice people go to by choice, by there rejection of God’s offerings, more than then a punishment by God for rejecting Him during life.
My hat goes off to the ‘Seventh Day Adventists’. They’ve got the best work-around for the Hell issue. According to them, there isn’t one…
Anonymous1I had a grandfather who smoked like a chimney and drank like a fish his whole life. He lived until he was 95. He died of gangrene poisoning in the leg. The same leg that he got shot up in the First World War…
I’ve met people like that as well. Doctors will tell you its impossible. Lots of bulls~~~ peddled by the authorities. I don’t trust the Medical Profession they are either ignorant or dishonest.
I’ve also known people, who got lung cancer and never smoked a day in their life. Doctors will say “It must have been second hand smoke.” Lol.
They are so full of bull s~~~.
I’ve also known people, who got lung cancer and never smoked a day in their life. Doctors will say “It must have been second hand smoke.” Lol.
They are so full of bull s~~~.
Indeed. Doctors don’t seem to really know as much as they claim to know. But until I can master a DIY appendectomy, I’ll give them a pass…
That’s a fair question, but I don’t know that I could explain it so that someone who doesn’t believe could understand it, at least not without sounding preachy. I’ll just say that I’ve done what my belief says you’re supposed to do to go to Heaven.
That makes sense. Assuming of course that you have the one true faith (or variant of) and that you believe in the one true god. If I were still a believer, that would be one thing that would bother me. I just couldn’t be that confident…
I actually edited my post after you quoted it. I didn’t like what I said about “what my belief says you’re supposed to do”. It sounded too religious and it wasn’t accurate. I changed it to say, “…..what I BELIEVE I’M supposed to do……”. My point for changing this is, I don’t believe the way I do, or live my life according to what any man says I should do. I don’t live a perfect life, but I do what I believe God wants me to do, not some organized religion. That’s why I’m not worried about any “one true faith” as you put it.
No matter which religion it is, all of them are just religious nonsense. I’ve separated myself from religions. For me, it isn’t about which one is right. It’s just me and God. There is nothing else I need to concern myself with. That’s why I don’t need confidence. It’s just what I believe.
You want to be with me don’t you….on a cloud reciting poems, with Gabriel playing the harp.
No Colin, I don’t want to go to Hell. LOL
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
For me, it isn’t about which one is right. It’s just me and God. There is nothing else I need to concern myself with. That’s why I don’t need confidence. It’s just what I believe.
But how can you be sure that you’ve even picked the right god? I mean there have been countless different gods throughout the centuries. One of the gods that many people acknowledge today as being the one ‘true’ god has only been around for a couple of thousand years. That’s barely a blink of an eye relative to the entire history of mankind.
Followers of different gods are just as sure of their own god as you are of yours. Had you been born 2500 years ago, you would not even have had the same choice of gods that there are today. How do you reconcile this in your own mind? I’m sincerely curious about this…
I believe your sincerity and I wish there was an easy way to accurately relay my thoughts and experiences to you through this text. Actually, I wish we could sit down face to face and have this discussion. It would be so much easier.
I don’t concern myself with other beliefs and other gods. In my mind, there is only one God. He has always been and He will always be. He is eternal. He is the beginning and the end. He is beyond time and space. He is above all other gods. I have earnestly sought God and prayed to Him and my experiences confirm my faith.
I will share one experience with you, if you care to know it. Years back, I had an incurable disease, called Rheumatoid Arthritis. The doctors and everyone I spoke to and everything I read about said there was no cure. It caused excruciating pain and could potentially destroy the joints in my body. I had a fellow believer pray for me. I’ve had preachers and others pray for me before, but nothing ever changed. This one guy had prayed for me many years before and pain immediately left my body. After this guy prayed for me, the incurable disease was gone. It’s been several years since then and there has been no more pain. It’s just gone. My belief is that God healed me. What else could it be? That guy had no magic power. He was just a strong believer and God worked through him.
Many different people may all be worshipping the same God, but perhaps in different ways. That’s the problem with religion. It starts to get in the way and complicate things. God doesn’t want it to be complicated. That’s why I don’t always listen to what this preacher is saying or that preacher. They are just men and they make mistakes. If a person, such as myself, really wants salvation from Hell and really wants to find God, he will find Him.
There is no more to be reconciled in my mind. I am at peace. I looked for God and I found Him.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Anonymous1I just hope that when death comes for me that it’s quick.
I have no intention of living in a care home and have some heavy handed bitch, wash and bath me.
There’s a couple of old timers I see in suits, commuting to the city to work. They must be in their 60’s – it’s unfathomable to me that they’re still working at that age. When are they actually going to enjoy the money they’ve spent a lifetime working for? They probably won’t. They will either drop dead on the job or end up having a family member, take all their money and dump them in a care home.
I intend to enjoy my life and enjoy my money. Death will eventually come for me, but not before I have some fun in this life.
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