Cutting the crap early on, in online dating.

[Anonymous 11]

Damn Jim01! They’re as ugly there as they are here at that age.

@joseph: There is an art to using texting to quickly connect with women. If you can master it, there is a lot of pump and dump action to be had. I know guys who do it too.

I’m just prefer and have a higher “success” rate per unit time spent meeting them out in real life. My intuition comes into play there which is something online can’t give me. When it comes to not sticking your dick in crazy, intuition is all we have sometimes. Plus, she can’t hide being a whale in real life.

@lurch: I’m going to try what you said on the image search. I once took a call from a frantic former coworker while I was out on a sandbar in the middle of a sound 2 miles from land.

Her picture had been screen scraped and used in online dating scams. She was very photogenic so I can see why they stole her image. A friend of hers saw it on Match.com.

I had to explain exactly what happened to her. Free technical therapy….

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

I recently cleared out my contacts list on my phone and deleted 39 girls numbers. Some were from online dating, some from meeting in bars or other social situations. First thing I think of is, my pops and grandfather didn’t have to date 39 women to find one, let alone the fact that none of those were keepers. My parents met in their early 20s and have been married for almost 40 years, and both sets of my grandparents met in their early 20s and have been married for 60+ years.

I don’t do online dating much anymore, but I did give it another shot last year. This one chick messaged me and I put her off for weeks, not wanting to get caught in the trap again, but after about 3 weeks I hit her up. She was 31, I’m 28 and I like the older girls because they pay for themselves. I mostly go for older girls naturally, but I have come to find the ones in their 30s who are just shy of hitting THE WALL will always pay for themselves, whereas girls under 25 expect me to pay. Anyways, we went out and I made sure she paid for her portion of the date. She was really pretty, great body, an 8/10, owned her own home, had a Masters and worked a real, professional career. She was a real rarity coming from online dating.

That was at the start of October. She was into art and all that and I like that stuff too, so the art museum in Fullerton had a great exhibit of photography from all of the U.S. National Parks and I invited her to the opening at the gallery, which she accepted and then cancelled because she was sick. That was in late October. We kept texting and things still seemed hot enough to keep chasing her. After that I was busy or she was and we never met up again, but kept texting each other. She texted me on Christmas but I still have never looked at it.

I got bored of the Text Dating… Honestly, online dating is like going to the strip club. It’s exciting at first, but it gets expensive and boring real quick… Haven’t done online dating since.

The stats line will show it all. In 2014 I dated 12 girls online, I had sex with 0 of them and played a lot of games. Every girl I did bang out that year was one I met at a party or bar. They cost me next to nothing, nowhere near where the 12 girls I “dated” cost me…

Online dating is s~~~ and 99.9% of women are dogs~~~…

Now to compare, here is a girl who I banged out for a month, FOR FREE, with no strings attached, after meeting her through her brother-in-law, my best friend, http://www.modelmayhem.com/2191580 whereas I dated 12 hoes online and got nothing but a few feels and a tease…. All Amy cost me was a trip to my home at the beach with her son and she sucks like a ProHoe, could cook dinner and had a legit personality. This, compared to the online money whores…. Hell that bitch would even keep my fridge stocked with booze. Online girls, not so much….

F~~~ online dating.

[Great-OzParticipant 226]

Members,

I was recently jumping back into the fray of online dating. Just an attempt at seeing what is out there and hoping that some of those woman would have changed. Alas, I should have known better. In fact, I do believe that it has become worse in the last year that I’ve been off-line. So sad.

-Oz

"Life is the future, not the past." Wizard's 7th rule, Terry Goodkind

[Mister Man SmithParticipant 285]

I agree with Lottery, women use online dating site/apps for attention more than anything else, they’ll only meet up with a guy if they see he has a lot of money to spoil her.

Remember, for a woman the difference between a sweet and a creepy guy is how thick is his wallet.

If you really want to keep using these online dating services, I guess you could just say “are you here to tease or looking for a hook up?” bluntly, I bet you most attention seekers will stop talking with you right away, and that’s your answer.

mistermansmithmgtow.blogspot.com

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Anonymous wrote:

@Cap:

I posted your obnoxious one

Obnoxious?! I beg your pardon sir!

looooooooooooooolllollll 🙂

adapted for where I live and ended up with 20 meet me requests in the several days I ran it. They were still all nasty whales. It proves women do the exact opposite of what you ask to me.

Yup. “I’ll show him I’m different!”

I upped my income to 150K+ and got an interesting result while still using your profile. The white women wanting to do a meet me went from whales to doable basically what I can pick up in real life. I’m much better at getting in women’s pants using my speech than texting. After the income increase, I began to get a vastly higher number of black women wanting to meet me.

I was fishing in my age range 38 to 48 so I know the pickings are slim.

My next experiment is going to filter only for 25 to 35 year olds with your profile and 150K+ as my income.

I’m ignoring all requests. If I see a snarky one’s profile, I will troll her for sport.

Any woman needing to use online dating is suspect in my opinion. I’m only doing this for entertainment and sharing the results as I change my profile around one variable at a time to see how they respond to each iteration.

I can understand desperate whales using online, but the attractive ones must have some personality disorder or else attention whoring for validation.

I will say POF where I live is pathetic even though it has a large number of women on it.

Most excellent trolling, sir. I salute you.

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

experienced wrote:

@Cap,
My apologies as I was off this site in the fall and missed your post regarding this subject.
Your comprehensive effort and acute observations therein has left me speechless.
You cut through so much BS in such an effective way that anyone can see you have a real talent here AND one which you have worked at honing to a razor sharp edge.
Your efforts will help us more than mine ever will and I thank you for them.

Get out of here. No worries. We all have lives and things come up. I’ve been busy lately purchasing guns, ammo and gear.

I appreciate the compliment. Talent is high praise. I’ve always considered myself a MGTOW class clown. Just a guy who’s fed up. This is how I view myself:

If my advice comes across as good and you get a laugh, I’m a happy guy.

Fuck this planet.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Jim01 wrote:

Just spotted this thread and Cap and CP have me in stitches this morning!

great stuff!

and I have honestly never gone on POF before so thought I would take a look and f~~~ me, they really are all fat, 40somethings on there

“is there anyone normal out there?” is this ones tagline….

http://uk.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=49637968

Thank you.

I think the fact that being fed up beyond hope makes my comedy better. It also make things much clearer. As Terrance Popp pointed out, it’s what alcoholics call a moment of clarity.

EDIT:

Gah! What the f~~~ is that thing in the picture?

Fuck this planet.

[LurchParticipant 3866]

The is a reason why I call it POFFF!

Plenty of Fatties, Fuglies and Fakes.

Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Cap285 wrote:

I usually troll POF about once a year to keep abreast (ha ha) of the online dating situation as it relates to the influx of “I can’t get married/find an LTR/where are all the good men” articles on the Interwebz, as well as for data to store in the MGTOW archives for reference. Once again it correlates with the collective experience of men and many of Popp’s videos. However, despite the constant whining of “I can’t find anyone”, entitlement, attitude and inflation of their looks has become worse. Mind you, I’m going to use MGTOW knowledge/techniques to expose the hypocrites for what they are. I used my age, 43, up to 49.

This was a legendary post !!!

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

Thought I’d get in on the fun by trying this out. I posted Cap’s spoof profile with my pics , and sure enough here come the hits. The problem is the action at my age(I think I look nowhere near my age mind you) is typically fatties , and hags….they look much older than late 40’s early 50’s , whereas I could easily pass for 35. I’ve actually got a running dialogue going with a 50 Yr old(looks much older too) that’s probably trying to figure me out , and she says ” Just a side note, most of the profiles I read (of men) are full of the same crap” Hahaha!!! I think collectively we are making a dent brothers.

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

I did the Plenty of Fish site and so far have sent out 5 emails to 6’s , 7’s , and 8’s(though I’m sure they all think they’re 10’s) without a response. I have received 5 page views(and they want to meet me I think….not happening) ….all of them 3’s or worse. I must be one ugly Mofo or something(funny because I’m 6’1″ and weigh 175 with an Armani suit on in my pic). That is the sentiment one seems to get from online dating …you’re only good enough for land whales and lepers.

[TheRunningManParticipant 71]

If she has kids, try for the first ‘date’ (meet up). If you don’t seal the deal on the first date with her, dump her ass. Women with kids are the most desperate, they know they have baggage (kids) and they know they won’t score a decent man unless he’s a boring beta who they will cheat on later. If she doesn’t do you on the first meet up, she’s simply only trying to string you along to pay for all of her problems and baggage (kids). Don’t do it. If you DO set up a second attempt, expect her to cancel because her ‘kids need her’ at the very last minute. This is her way of s~~~ testing you to see if she can control and boss you around.

Even though they are fat, undesirable and have kids, they still think they are princesses. These whores will be shocked when they realize that they cannot get an attractive man or even a beta as the beta’s more than ever are turning mgtow in huge numbers or going PUA. So, by the time these women hit 40, they’ll be crazy cat ladies with a bunch of gangster kids who are in and out of jail. Consider it a bullet dodged.

So rule #1 when it comes to f~~~ing a whore with kids:
1. Make sure you seal the deal on the first date. If you do, she’s going to stick around and maybe you can get her to take care of you and pay for some of your s~~~. (Hey, it happens if you do it right).
2. If she DOES NOT, don’t even bother, cut ties immediately, move on and try a different girl.
Otherwise, you are knowingly and willingly wasting your own time.

[Modern Playboys.comParticipant 16]

As far as Tinder I’ve noticed a particular order of how things normally work and escalate if my matches are to get anywhere whether it’s casual dating, one nighter, f~~~ buddy, whatever.

I always move on from my matches if:
1. She’s not responsive or replies with bulls~~~ one liners
or 2. doesn’t move the interaction forward in a day or two (number pulls)

These females get matches up the ass on a daily basis. I’ve matched and met with a few very attractive women on tinder and the topic of tinder and matches comes up as a casual conversation. You know what one of them said? “Whenever I find someone attractive I swipe right and just wait for his notification to come up. and it always does”

Moral of the story, don’t invest too much time on online dating (or Tinder at least) on one girl for too long and bail out to save yourself some time if she’s not responsive. It’s a sheer numbers game and these women WILL forget about you very soon if you don’t have a strong opening presence.

We're here to help you bring out the best version of yourself. Visit us at http://modernplayboys.com for tips of dating, fashion, self-help, health, & more.

[IAmManParticipant 228]

I’ve done the online dating for a while. Paid sites like eharmony turned out to be a joke. I looked for good church girls and found one that tried to frame me. Bitch.
The free site are mainly for hookups. Who am I kidding they all are. I’m a romantic and while blue pulling looked for my true love. Now I only use them for amusement. Sometimes I meet someone sweet but I attribute that to them being ugly and knowing it. I get contacted a lot and my rule is to never begin a chat. I just wait for a girl to contact me. I use to get fewer contacts posting pics of my face. I am attractive but I found that gym pics or shots in a muscle tee (I’m a bodybuilder) get me a lot of hits. All this to say they are vain and shallow. I don’t do shirtless cause that’s just asking for the crazy. Without shirtless pics I’ve had girls start off with crazy s~~~ like “hey so I loved your first pic. I printed it out and put it on my pillow and going to have some fun”..
I responded with “please don’t drool on me that’s disgusting”.

I usually make fun of them or just don’t play into their game. If there’s a game to be played it’s going to be mine.

If one of their first messages is “your hot” especially with an explicative, then they are not interested in getting to know you they just want to play. I realize that may be cool with a lot of guys here but just don’t let their tricks get to your head. They will say anything to you to get you hooked.

I love acting not interested or straight up telling them I’m not interested. If I tell them it straight I do it respectfully. They either respond with “…ok” and delete their profile or fierce vitriol. One told me “I didn’t say I was interested…” To which I responded “learn to read. I said I wasn’t interested in you”

The first test a girl must pass with me is the interest test. If they don’t message me nothing will happen. I will not message them. After they message me I expect them to carry the convo. I do not care if they insult my conversation skills I simply retort and block. Every girl will eventually begin to play a domination game and see how much of an insult they can get away with. I don’t give them an inch. If ever in doubt tell them they are losing your interest, or how boring they are. They won’t know what hit them. Girls will chat my ear off simply because I responded with a 1/10 the length of her messages. I was trying hard to let her know she wasn’t interesting.

Sure, this causes a lot of girls to stop talking to me. I never kid myself with actually thinking they’re my true love or some s~~~. I just love thinking how mad I just made some bimbo because someone actually didn’t put up with her s~~~.
As a rule of thumb if I get messages by a 9+ girl I will check out her profile and won’t respond. Or I tell them no thank you. Who else other than mgtow would dare do that? Manginas get an ego boost salivating at their computers at the thought some hot bitch doing them a favor by acknowledging they exist… Then they get sad 5 mins later when she looses interest. I hit cloud nine knowing I turned the flake down.

If you don’t get many messages don’t let this get to your head. Girls expect men to do the work. I think an initail message is ok in this situation but quickly loose interest if she starts talking.

[Anonymous 11]

Word to all MGTOWs.

Chad Thunderc~~~ 2.0 shall soon be unleashed now that my taxes are done.

[Ricardo (Shadow)Participant 12]

For fast results you want to be direct I have put over 2 years of my life one doing indirect the other direct and the results are verry different when you go direct the woman will mirror your actions and will show you her cards if you want fast results go direct with your intentions don’t Bulls~~~ and she will return the favor

[Greg SilveradoParticipant 172]

Here I have found somebody I can totally agree with. If I had the money that I had spent etcetera etcetera. The deck is not only stacked against us by the odds but the operators of these websites post phony pics and profiles and probably have a full-time staff of ugly old women pretending to be these profiles. It would make sense because when you unsubscribe all the sudden you get a bunch of emails. Rather curious don’t you think. There is also the issue of quality. In three and a half years I never found one woman who was really worth my time. Back then though I had no clue I just thought I was getting lucky. I agree with paying for pussy it’s totally cheaper in the long run.

MBR

Always expect the unexpected and gird your loins appropriately. It's a no-fault jungle out there.

[CynicalScotsmanParticipant 32]

Great thread! I’ll be sure to try these tips out the next time I make a new POF.

[DJKevgeezParticipant 141]

The Skank Spanker wrote:

Within two minutes or within 3 lines of chatting i ask her:

“So what are you looking for on Tinder? Mr. Right? Your soulmate? ”

If they use the word relationship, I know its not a match. When she just wants to mess around, between the lines I ask her if she is a feminist or up to meet.

If she passed al my s~~~ tests:

– no relationship
– no feminist
– easy going
– no wining and dining

I will ask her number straight away and plan a date within 2 or 3 days. Quick and fast will get you laid. I don’t have time for stupid questions or chat-bulls~~~. Confidence, being forward and direct, a bit c~~~y funny will help. So far this has gotten me a long way with the least amount of effort, just be direct and make sure they know you are not fooling around.

If you don’t f~~~ her withing 2 or 3 dates, dump her, she’s not worth your time and effort. Plenty of other women that are down to f~~~. The ones that make you wait just want something more, like a relations~~~ or attention.

What does it mean to you if she says she is on there for a relationship?

[SolidusXParticipant 854]

I am sure it has been said already in this post but… I apply a very strict filter before even meeting any women from an online site and it goes a little something like that…

Instant blocks
1. Fat (opens up a whole host of other mental issues they have that you don’t want)
2. Smoker (weak minded {sorry smokers but I believe you are weak minded if you pay to kill yourself slowly})
3. Single mother (I don’t care how hot they are they are not getting anything from me)
4. States somewhere in their profile “I want Mr Right” or “Tired of games” or “Is Chivalry dead”
5. Has only head shots or party pictures or bathroom selfies
6. No or very little or “If you want to know just ask” as their profile description
7. No pictures
8. Has cats in their pictures and calls them their “Babies”
9. When they say they are strong and independant always screams feminist to me
10. No car and their own source of income

Instant no second date
1. Not dressed well or is frumpy like they just got out of bed
2. Smell bad
3. Rude to staff if we are at a resturant
4. Very foul mouthed… a little f~~~ and s~~~ here and there is ok.
5. Can’t hold a conversation (I hate this the most)
6. Late to the first date without explanation
7. Not what they advertised on their profile
8. Prys for too much personal information especially about finances
9. Talks about their past partners
10. Does not let me get in a word in the conversation

I have experienced all of these before and it’s such a turn off… Women lie really badly and it’s hard to smell the bulls~~~ sometimes so what I do is I watch for body language and eye movement to see if they have a ‘tell’. If you can find this out you will know when someone is bs’ing you.

Knowledge is power..... Don't waste your brain on bullshit

[Author]

Posts