can married men be mgtow????

[Anonymous 12]

I understand.

I see words and language not as precise.
Language is fluid and evolving. The meaning, the message is what stays and matters.

Therefor those “bean counters/ rivet counters/overly zealous twisters of words” leave me uninterested.
They (trolls?????) drag me into the dirt, and beat me with their superior experience at a game i do not play too often these days.

Over-analyzing is also the opposite of “NFG”, so i hope you find a good middle ground.
keep rocking.
not too hard.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Anonymous wrote:

OldBill wrote:

You’re deliberately choosing to deconstruct the phrase and instead focus on the meaning of the individual words so you can play a semantic trick and “debate” the meaning of the phrase. Rather than examining the phrase as a whole, you’re examining each of the words making up the phrase individually, choosing different meanings for each, and then suggesting the phrase “means” something which you know to be totally at odds with the actual meaning. This shell game is then supposed to grant us a deeper understanding of the phrase itself.

That is simply dishonest.
You do not own these words.
Men going their own way means men going their own way.
You do not get to decide what that is.
Each man defines that for himself.
You write like a conformist.
It’s just different definition of what a man must be.

When a man is married he isn’t going HIS own way:
He’s either going THEIR own way or, MUCH MORE LIKELY, HER own way.
“THEIR” meaning “the couple”, for dumber readers.

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[Anonymous 6]

Eric Lauder wrote:

When a man is married he isn’t going HIS own way:
He’s either going THEIR own way or, MUCH MORE LIKELY, HER own way.

If his way is their way then he is going his own way.
If his way is not their way then no he is not going his own way.
What makes you think it is up to you to decide what another mans path is or should be?

Seriously how is it you don’t get this?
I am red pill MGOW.
Roughly speaking what you and OldBill are insisting is MGTOW.
I abandoned the cultural norms, values, thinking and beliefs I had been indoctrinated in as a child at 21.
I am now 50.
It took me two more years to get my head around it and more than another twenty to truly understand the path I find appropriate for myself.

But you don’t get to tell me what that path is.
I decide that for myself and I fight to the death in pursuit of the path I seek.

Do you think you can force me to follow your path?
Think you can force me to follow any path that you define?

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Can a man be pregnant?

Oh f~~~!

Sorry, I forgot the sick times we live in.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

Im asking this because i was arguing with some guy on you tube And i was telling him you cant claim to be a mgtow while you married how is that.possible???mgtow mean a man control his destiny especially own his own freedom so how can a man who got into a marriages contract can claim to be a mgtow??????

I really don’t see the point of the question.

MGTOW isn’t a contest. Who is the most MGTOWeist? Give me a break.
In my opinion no he can’t, but MGTOW is about me and no one else. I don’t invite anyone into my MGTOW as that would defeat the purpose. If a married man thinks he is going his own way then let him think it.

Hitman said it best

Hitman wrote:

not every man hears about this path BEFORE the s~~~ hits the fan….

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 42]

MGTOW is being alone in a world with 6 billion people, not clinging onto another human being, it’s the realization that sovergnty serves you best as all other individuals have their own motives and interests.

Wisdom comes in knowing when to, or not to negotiate, and the contract of marriage is non negotiable, it’s reprobate, walk away and never sign a marriage contract or subject yourself to common law dictates that recgonize cohabit the same as a signed contract of marriage without your signature.

IT IS A TRAP!

[Anonymous 6]

I went my own way when I was 20 – 21.
I saw the 1987 supernova a few weeks after managing to turn myself around, turn myself against all I had been taught, rejecting it absolutely.
Then in 1988 shortly before I turned 21 I managed to reset myself.
From that point it took another two years to roughly define my own experience of reality.

I spent many more years carefully measuring my perception against reality. Carefully assessing the source of any discrepancy, any internal conflict.
I learnt a great deal about how people manipulate each other and how best to defend myself against those manipulations.
I also learnt to understand my own nature, strengths and weaknesses.
I understand where my own nature fails me.
I also understand the way in which I excel.
I had no master to lead me in my understanding.
I took those truths that fit and rejected those that didn’t or were irrelevant.

So many people thought they could tell me what my path should be.
In my heart I buried them all.

If you think you can tell any man what his path should be you engage in dangerous idiocy.
If you think you can tell me what path I must seek you engage in suicide.

[Anonymous 12]

Anonymous wrote:

generic text.

So a married man goes his own way (with his wife) is still MGTOW.
Is that what you are getting at?

No.

so “their” in MGTOW stands for
“he and his wife” or “his and his wife´s way” or “his wife following him on his way”

Is this how you twist the words to legitimize You and Your wife being part of MGTOW?

Go your own way then.
Just do not turn around and come back.

That is not what happens.
It is him not waking up to the fact that she is the one dictating the direction, action and lifestyle.

M.G.T.O.W – Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.
sov·er·eign·ty

A man with a wife has given up his power to live his life in his own way.

because behind his wife , and also part of his life is the wife´s family(and their expectations), The Police (and their Guns), The lawyers(and their bills) the judges(and the prison system)

That is what a man marries.

Such a man can not walk his own path.
He walks the path set out by the fear of these entities.

I laugh at your silly little game.

[Anonymous 6]

Anonymous wrote:

You and Your wife

So you can write but not read?

Anonymous wrote:

MGTOW is being alone in a world with 6 billion people, not clinging onto another human being, it’s the realization that sovergnty serves you best as all other individuals have their own motives and interests.

That was a large part of my experience.
Finding the strength to stand alone against seemingly infinite opposition.
But I have at times experienced a kind of interconnectedness of things.

“No man is an island”
“Life does not exist in isolation”

I only found this place a short time ago.
I have stood my own ground alone for almost thirty years.

It offends me profoundly that some of the men here think they can dictate to me what my path is, or should be.
I am ashamed for them.

[Anonymous 12]

This is a trolling technique.

Let me be up front:

Your word twisting game teaches me that anything you say is full of s~~~.
And that goes back all the way to your intro.

Calling Mangina.
*mic drop*

[Anonymous 6]

Anonymous wrote:

Your word twisting game teaches me that anything you say is full of s~~~.
And that goes back all the way to your intro.

Bet your life on it?

[LupusParticipant 214]

Definition MGTOW:
Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.

This seems to me to be the one closest to what we are.
If you follow that definition, then the answer is clearly no.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Sorry, already commented.

Fuck this planet.

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Puffin,

I can’t imagine that pain. With all respect, your son is a little mangina for that move and better not try to monkey branch back to you like mommy when things go south for him.

No loyalty in this world, not even with your kids.

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[IRuleMeParticipant]

MTOW as it seems people here have forgotten is “Men Going Their Own Way”.

Emphasis on the word THEIR OWN. It’s singular. Not plural. Not “Men Going the Marriage Way”. Not “Men Going Their Partner’s Way”, or “Men Going Their Wife’s Way.” Going your OWN WAY is an endeavor you travel by yourself. Alone. Without constraints. Living your life for you, about you, on your own terms. Without the constraints, descriptions, manipulations, and conformity of society. If you are in a marriage, then you are a slave on a number of different levels. What exactly is MGTOW about slavery? Nothing. Being at the will and mercy of your spouse, being at the will and mercy financially to provide for your spouse, your family…. Sacrificing YOUR wants, needs, and desires for others is not MGTOW. It is the antithesis of MGTOW.

[MonkParticipant 16984]

Anonymous wrote:

So many people thought they could tell me what my path should be. In my heart I buried them all.

If you think you can tell any man what his path should be you engage in dangerous idiocy.
If you think you can tell me what path I must seek you engage in suicide.

Finding the strength to stand alone against seemingly infinite opposition. […] I have stood my own ground alone for almost thirty years.

It offends me profoundly that some of the men here think they can dictate to me what my path is, or should be. I am ashamed for them.

The whole universe is against you, isn’t it?

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Do you think you can force me to follow your path?

No one is forcing you to follow one path or the other.

All we’ve done is call you out on your deconstructionist word game tricks. Deliberately misconstruing the context a word in which a word is used is not deep thinking, it’s just semantic shell game designed to bulls~~~ people.

By all means go your own way, but don’t tell the rest of us you somehow have some deeper understanding of MGTOW because you waste your time playing contextual “scrabble”.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

Yes, men can be MGTOW and be married. if one accepts the definition, in and of itself, then a man who goes his own way will be by himself or accompanied by a woman. MGTOW and my Christian Faith (specifically Catholic) has confirmed the biblical mandate that the man is the head of the household. I have been dating a Catholic woman for four years and as head of our relationship, I consider her opinion, but make the final decision that she must follow or she can leave the relationship. I have always said, I am going my own way, following the Lord, Jesus Christ, and if she wishes to follow me so be it. If she does not, then she can leave of her own accord.

So far it has been fruitful.

As I have stated before, even if I am not considered MGTOW, the wisdom I have found in perusing this particular sight in addition to Dalrock, has brought about much insight, freedom and contentment REGARDLESS of whether I am single, married or dating.

Of course, my Catholic faith, is the philosophical foundation which has allowed me to sift through the dross of this site and gather the wisdom which is consistent with my Catholic faith.

God bless Keymaster and his efforts to give fertile ground to grow the truth and separate the weeds.

God bless, Michael

[OneLaneOnlyPlsParticipant 1747]

Anonymous wrote:

If his way is their way then he is going his own way.
If his way is not their way then no he is not going his own way.

You aren’t red pill anything.

His way is never their way. If you are too dumb to realize that, then accept that everyone else here thinks differently than you. You can stop debating this point right now.

Not sure what your mission here is, besides being an annoying mangina.

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

OneLaneOnlyPls wrote:

Rauel wrote:

If his way is their way then he is going his own way.
If his way is not their way then no he is not going his own way.

You aren’t red pill anything.

His way is never their way. If you are too dumb to realize that, then accept that everyone else here thinks differently than you. You can stop debating this point right now.

Not sure what your mission here is, besides being an annoying mangina.

You say that “his way is never their way”.
If his way is the “right way”, then his way can be their way. In an employer employee relationship, the employer’s way is the right way. This can work within a relationship also.

God bless, Michael

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