can married men be mgtow????

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Im asking this because i was arguing with some guy on you tube And i was telling him you cant claim to be a mgtow while you married how is that.possible???mgtow mean a man control his destiny especially own his own freedom so how can a man who got into a marriages contract can claim to be a mgtow??????

[Anonymous 3]

It’s just rationalization. They know MGTOW is the right way and want to be a part of the kool klub but they have already f~~~ed up by marrying a c~~~. So they try to rationalize their mistake by convincing themselves and others that, as long as you are going your own way, marrying your own way, putting your b~~~~ on the proverbial guillotine your own way, because their wives let them do all that their own way, you are MGTOW.

Ask them again how MGTOW they are when their wives are cuckolding them with some big dumb thug, taking their kids and belongings, tearing them a new one at every aspect.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Well my opinion is a man can go his own way while married (stealthymgtow),you have to understand that at times a man will awaken while in a marriage and proceed with an exit strategy. Some of us are lucky to digest red pills before ever marrying,but some guys are already in a marriage when the pill is digested,mgtow is more of a philosophy to me so with that said you can be mgtow minded while in marriage or relations~~~s! Just dont fall for s~~~ test,feminist ideology,paying her bills,dutch for dinners,non-cohabitations,and dump her ass the first sign of crazy or deceitful female manipulating tactics that mgtow men know so so well. Some are not up for that task as others can maneuver through it with no hassle,but the philosophy has to be the core.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous 1]

Oh, please, not this again.
Short answer: in theory, no.

Married men Mgtows are the “invention” of Paul Elam. He wants to profit from men, and since Mgtow has gained a reputation for itself, he wants to give a “bone” to his married customers.

If you are married, and you have things to share about the married life to the rest of us, feel free. I have nothing against men that woke up after signing that contract (if you are old enough). No one is perfect and most men have that phase where, within the right conditions, his dick can speak louder than his head.

But if you are “happily” married, why in the nine f~~~ing hells would you want to “claim” to be mgtow? Aren’t you, you know, married? We (or at least, I) don’t want to know how great is to be a wage slave to someone that has the legal system backing her up in case she gets bored from you.

My suggestion: let these guys be. Youtube community is not what it used to be anyway. They want to call themselves Mgtow? Go ahead, I am not interested on what they have to say.

Those that want to go back to the good and old slave days are more than welcome to go right ahead though, I am not stopping them from jumping that cliff.

Cheers.

[UntamedParticipant]

I really don’t have an opinion one way or the other on this one simply because I couldn’t care less what people call themselves nowadays. Some people put on a cape and mask, go out in the streets and try to catch purse grabbers then call themselves “Avenger” or “Darkwing Dan”. Who am I to say they’re not super hero? Maybe their superpower is to make me crack up, who can really say?

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Just wanted clarification on this, would be one f~~~ up feelings getting.married then.learn in that s~~~ty s~~~ you got.into it im glad i swallow that red pill before.i ever though.of marriages but i have sympathy for thoses marriages men who.open their eyes to that cruel reality

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

The answer is YES and NO. Yes, if you are already married and woke up while being married; it is just a matter of time and money until you can get out. No, if you sign a New-Marriage-Contract. By signing a marriage contract you are GIVING UP YOUR RIGHTS as a man.

I have pressure on me right now to get married and that my son is a bastard because I am not married. Since that is bulls~~~ because my son has my last name and therefor is legitimate. Moreover, the **** that had my son knows that I will not marry her and only gets the basics from me; she has to put out. When the government tries to get involved; they get a big “go away or else my lawyer is going to make you pay”; paper tigers are just paper tigers. I know because they have already tried and failed.

If you are already married; you can be MGTOW; if you are planing to get married buy her a strap-on and some lube.

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) implies that one is, at present, going one’s own way, as opposed to merely wishing he had.

My advice to married men is this – divorce at the earliest opportunity and do not worry about the money; that can be solved later. I much prefer poverty and liberty to gilded chains and sorted affluence, in the words of William Pitt the Elder.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Cipher Highwind wrote:

Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) implies that one is, at present, going one’s own way, as opposed to merely wishing he had.

My advice to married men is this – divorce at the earliest opportunity and do not worry about the money; that can be solved later. I much prefer poverty and liberty to gilded chains and sorted affluence, in the words of William Pitt the Elder.

Right Right Right; this cheaper-to-keep-her bulls~~~ is just a cop-out from a fake.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

No.

How do you go your own way with the shackles of marriage on you?

Fuck this planet.

[Anonymous 3]

Just another attempt by team woman to dilute any identity men try to make.

Pretty ridiculous. This is how men got devalued and degraded in the West in the first place. Every male space got invaded and re-defined to revolve around women and their opinions.

MGTOW would die a quick death listening to married men drone on on how men should be doing things—they’re the ones that f~~~ed up in the first place, giving them a voice ensures everyone else goes down the same road as well. They have plenty of other spaces to babble about marriage–pretty much the entire Western landscape is there for them to babble. They can just make a facebook or something.

[Anonymous 3]

I want to clarify, I have nothing against Stealthy and other married men who understand MGTOW and seek to go their own way. Whether they’re by definition MGTOW or not, it’s rather irrelevant. Especially for Stealthy, who has given so much to this forum, and possibly other places that I’m not aware of. I’m but a peon in comparison, so who cares if I’m not married and he is, it doesn’t take away any credibility of his.

What I do have a problem with, is when married men rationalize their decision to marry, as a choice that goes along with the MGTOW philosophy.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

NO.

The very concept of sharing your life with your beloved wife is the OPPOSITE of “going your own way”. You don’t even own your tomorrow….. and a married man doesn’t even have a 28% control of the outcome of this own marriage! He can’t even make it work – even if he WANTS it to work. So what IDIOT would call that “going your own way”?? What IDIOT would even imply it??

Whoever said “married men can be mgtow” has been smoking too much Elam, and they really need to put down the bong and back away.

Now maybe he got married 20 years ago and only just woke up to find himself in a very precarious position….. and so MGTOW starts to resonate with him…… but forget the 5 letters, he’s not “going his own way”. He has no agency over tommorrow until he is divorced. And even then, he may still be shackled to her in the form of monthly payments.

This is not a moral issue or any kind of debate. It’s a LEGAL issue.

A marriage contract is a legal merging of two corporations. It’s not an opinion. It’s everything MGTOW is NOT.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

A man can be still under contractual obligation but not “Married” in any way except to avoid the short, medium and long term financial devastation of legal separation..
In many cases, you’re talking about living below the poverty line, no matter how much you earn. In some cases, you’ll be looking at prison time.
I wouldn’t call that guy Married” in any way except as a court room description of his marital status.

However, if any guy claims to be going his own way and thinks he can do it with a woman,,,,,,,,,,lol

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

f any guy claims to be going his own way and thinks he can do it with a woman,,,,,,,,,,lol

Saying “married men can be MGTOW” is truly like saying a cat can be a dog.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 18]

I think a married man can be a MGTOW like a step-father can be a good parent to his step-kids. He can be the adopted child, the naturalized citizen or the converted Catholic/Muslim/Hindu/Judaic.

I don’t think there is an outright inclusion or exclusion criteria. Red pill in its truest form is not possible to swallow if the man is married. He has obligations and he has responsibilities towards his wife and his children. Even if he is a patriarch, even if she lets him make important decisions, even if she is a good wife. His decisions account for their happiness. Not his alone.

Having said that to say that a married man can’t be a MGTOW is limiting the power and influence of the philosophy. MGTOW is equally about a man’s sense of identity as his autonomy. Marriage bankrupts the latter but the former can be achieved and enhanced by a man adopting all things MGTOW- those that he can.

Knowing how mgtow has helped me voice my thoughts and find others who have similar points of view, I would find it even more appealing and agreeable if I had been married to a wretched, borderline wife revving redzone in her psychometer. An unhappy married man has no where to go. MGTOW serves a huge outlet and support for an unhappily married man.

To exclude all married men from this group is to isolate him for a mistake he can’t undo. Most of us arrive here after experience opens our eyes. A married man had his epiphany but further down the rabbit hole. He should be encouraged to seek the light. To file all married men as giving way to wife’s hormonal fits is unfair. I watch YouTube videos of a married man called AlexonLife who spits more red pills than most hardcore mgtow videos I have ever watched.

Not all married men can be mgtow but mgtow can appeal and help a handful of miserable husbands in capacity single men can’t begin to comprehend.

Another example is Messenger Rising. He is able to speak because he was once married. Had he still been married his message would have been just as true and powerful.

MGTOW to me doesn’t have a beginning or an ending. It can find you at 17 or at 40. One’s life circumstances shouldn’t define their eligibility to go the route with best outcome and least s~~~.

To say mgtow is not for married man is to define it as a shirt size S too small to fit on a XL frame.

Life is complicated. At least for a man.

MGTOW is a purpose.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Interesting topic.
Our journey exposes us to skanks at different points in our life.
Some people are exposed to the truth about women early enough to avoid marriage (I call these guys the lucky bastards.)
Some people don’t learn the truth about women until they have been married and divorced. I’m in this category. (I call us the dumb bastards.)
Still others learn the truth about women while they are married. All of these guys will turn out fine, it’s just they will go thru a divorce and suffer financial loss.
However, a person can’t know the truth about women and proceed with marriage claiming he is MGTOW. As others have pointed out, men in this case aren’t going their own way, but their wife’s way.

[HitmanParticipant]

i got married , had a child and the wife went OFF HER ROCKER ! you wanna talk about stress ? holy f~~~ing s~~~ ! she admitted trying to force me out of the house we bought , had me arrested , grabbed the kid , filed for divorce , i got pulled through court a few times ..HELL. pure hell..i was gonna cash in ALL the chips and one day i found mgtow . yeah , i wanted THAT ..to go my own f~~~ing way ! SO I DID . a divorce can take a long time , coming up on three years for me .. let me tell you men , i would have lived out the blue pill dream i was programmed into believing was real ..but I WOKE UP ! the red pill was not my choice , it was my destiny ..so here i am ..red pill as a motherf~~~er ..SO WHAT ? am i NOT a MGHOW ? i handle my life as I wish now ..with entanglements i wouldn’t put on my worst enemy ..BUT IT’S MY WAY NOW ! not every man hears about this path BEFORE the s~~~ hits the fan…. count your blessings if you did . i hope that helps answer the question …so my answer is NO ! if you are married ..but YES if you are on your way OUT of that marriage contract .

[RoyDalParticipant]

I happen to be personally acquainted with a man who is both married and claims to be a “man going his own way.” Regardless of my opinions on the matter, it is his life and he can run it anyway he wants to. For the sake of peace while sharing meals, I do not tell him of my opinions. For example, “throw off your chains, you stupid … ” Well, I prefer peace to hurling insults to old friends, so I keep it silent and devil take the hindmost.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I still think its more philosophy and unfortunately some men have awaken while in a marriage so what are they to do with this new knowledge? Exit strategy is the next thing so they need our support not to be alienated because of a past mistake or lapse in judgement at the time. Remember for us who never married we are extremely lucky because if you think about it imagine going against the grain after almost 20 years of gynocentric brainwashing,no internet,no male clubs,just you and your instincts,its tough! Lets just be happy about the awakenings and encourage other men if possible to get aboard the freedom ark,this is the first time in my life were like minded men (married or not) can come together and help each other out,remember this is what society and women have always feared is men coming together as a collective,hints GF and wives wanting your friends gone because of that exact same reason. MGTOW is like a freedom ark to me to get the hell off this gynocentric island and off to my own freedoms for myself by myself……

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

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