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I can relate to your pain… I was there once. Age has given me some perspective, however, and I’ll share my advice with you here. First, you dodged one hell of a bullet with this particular woman. Even for the female of the species, she’s acting unhinged. Second, and most importantly, DO NOT tie your feelings of self-worth to whether you’ve gotten laid or not. There’s FAR more to life. Is getting laid fun? Sure, for a few minutes — provided you don’t knock her up, catch a disease, or get trapped into a marriage (I did the last one; fortunately, dodged the first two). If it’s super important to you, then hire a “woman of negotiable affection”. You’re gonna pay for it regardless; might as well have an honest transaction without any further expectations. I’m too much of a cheap-ass to do this — I’d rather buy myself a beautiful steak and save the remainder.
I haven’t gotten laid in over a year. Haven’t been looking to, don’t care anymore. I’ve been working on a pile of projects that I could never get to when I was married because MY very limited free time became “our” time.
MG-ɹǝʍo┴
Thank so much for your words sir. You are right. I need a lot of work to change the way I see the world. I had no idea about many things everyone is mentioning here. I didn’t even know I was being manipulated into feeling so terrible about myself. How can anyone be so evil and vile? Why? I guess my brain or my heart doesn’t understand why women would be so terrible to men. I’m not going to lie, this weekend really wrecked me emotionally. I couldn’t f~~~ing understand why this girl would act this way with me when I tried to be good to her. I want to become a man that doesn’t care about what others specially women think. I was disillusioned with them before, but this girl really just showed me the worst in them. I was so angry and I kept on thinking I was the problem. Is the world such a messed up place that is wrong now for a man to just be a man? I’m tired of feeling so f~~~ing emasculated. I’ve honestly felt more loved and appreciated in all you guys’ comments that I ever did living with my mom, aunts and grandma. I always felt their loved was conditional, and like they would stop loving me if I did something wrong or that they though was wrong. Is like if they knew they had power over me. It makes me so angry to think about it. I don’t think I’m a bad person but I think I’ve had enough. My biggest problem is that I’m so f~~~ing naive. When this girl told me she would used the fact that I’m a virgin against me, it f~~~ing blew my mind how someone could be so vile to take my hurt and my pain and try to push me down with it. Why the f~~~ would you that to someone that treated you right? What the f~~~ is wrong with her? Trust me sir, I will never contact her again. It will be hard to avoid her at work, but I will. The way she treated me was so cruel that I’m almost certain she wanted me to hurt myself. Are most women this vile? I need to read more about the “blue pill” men and the “red pill” mentality. I’m still a newbie but I want to learn. I think that joining this site might have saved my life. I was in such a dark place this weekend. Thank you.hitman
Thank you sir. The must f~~~ed up part is that I didn’t know I had been conditioned my entire life. It’s f~~~ing infuriating to find out that the world has it out for men who are just trying to be men. It’s unfair and criminal to think they would want to emasculate us.
blade
Thank you for support sir. I think red pill rebuilding is exactly what I need right now. I don’t want to ever feel as low as I felt this weekend ever again. I’m so f~~~ing thankful to have found MGTOW. I’ve never felt like there were men out there that could actually be on my side. Most guys I know are already married and have no interest in having friendships because their wife don’t allow them too. I wish I wasn’t so f~~~ing naive and innocent when it comes to women. I now see they have used it to their advantage. It’s difficult to control my urge to want to have sex, but I think you are right I should just get myself a hooker or jerk off. I think unconsciously I did want a loving relationship with a woman, but it seems that they don’t care about that. Specifically talking about this girl that let me like an idiot. My mind can’t comprehend why she would get amusement from hurting me or telling me she is going to tell the office that I’m a virgin. That’s just f~~~ing cruel. I would never do that to anyone. Like there was no compassion even on a human level. I feel like if I had killed myself over what she did she would have been happy. That’s f~~~ing horrific. I’m sorry if I sound too naive, but it’s just hard for me to understand why she would do that. I know I need a lot of work to become a man that doesn’t care.
Shin
Thanks for the advise bro. All of you guys are right. I should just get a hooker to lose my V-card and move on with my life. If it wasn’t for the sexual urges I probably would have never even pursued her. I guess women know that they can use to control men. I just need to get more creative with how a jerk off lol Thanks man.
Keymaster
Thank you for the tough love sir. I definitely never got that at home. It was always passive aggressive statements from my mom and aunts to make me feel bad about the simplest things. So I appreciate you being straightforward with me. I think I need to do a lot of work to build myself up.
To answer your question, I guess I was ashamed of being a virgin because I felt that’s what I was meant to do. I thought that since I hadn’t lost my virginity at a younger age like most men that there was something wrong with me, that wasn’t a real man, or that I was missing out on life.
And you are absolutely right. All my life I’ve always been thought that I have to become successful to be good enough for a woman. I’ve always treated women with respect, but I’ve never gotten it back. It seems like the nicer you are to them, the worst they treat you. It’s sick. Why can’t they just be noble and honest? I’m sorry if the answers to all of these things are obvious to you, I’m still brand new here. I didn’t even know about blue pill or red pill before yesterday. Is there anywhere I can read about s~~~ tests or the tactics women use?
As you point out, I guess it was so f~~~ing stupid of me to date a woman from work. I honestly never crossed my mind that this could be used against me. I wasn’t doing anything wrong and she agreed to go on dates. I didn’t force her. But I think that probably doesn’t matter to them.
I want to change. I want to stop caring about what other people, specially women think of me. I wished I’ve had a community like this or a male in my life growing up so that I wouldn’t me in this mess. I’m glad I didn’t hurt myself or did anything stupid this weekend. Her hurtful words almost drove me to want to end my life. I don’t wish her ill, but there has to be some punishment or karma for someone who is so mean and cruel to another person.
MGTOW_Mike
That’s very encouraging bro. You are right, a lot of people make it seem like getting laid, being married, and starting a family is the greatest achievement ever. It could be nice I guess, but not if I have to live with someone that is cruel or that wants me to work myself to death just for sex.
MG-ɹǝʍo┴
feminist pollution contaminating the inside of your head.
I wrote you another reply earlier sir. Hope you had a chance to see it. But in regards to this specific comment. Thank you so much for saying that I’m a good candidate. What this woman did to me this weekend really felt like emotional terrorism. I didn’t even know my head was full with the ideas women want me to f~~~ing think. How did all this pollution get into my head? It’s f~~~ing evil. Why can’t a man just be a man? I want to change. I’m angry that I’ve been so naive.
Anonymous42When this girl told me she would used the fact that I’m a virgin against me, it f~~~ing blew my mind how someone could be so vile to take my hurt and my pain and try to push me down with it. Why the f~~~ would you that to someone that treated you right?
That sir is what spawned MGTOW in the first place!
What the f~~~ is wrong with her?
Everything, inside out, top to bottom. In six months she’ll be badmouthing Chad Thunderc~~~ for treating her so poorly, then go back for more abuse, call it universal insanity…
The way she treated me was so cruel that I’m almost certain she wanted me to hurt myself. Are most women this vile?
They don’t know it, but yes AWALT! They haven’t a clue to the harm they cause with their emotional harshness, you’re only a disposable utility or an emotional tampon to modern woman, they are the worst brood of women to ever breath air.
Why can’t a man just be a man?
We can, and we are just being MEN by simply folding out table and walking away, no negotiations, we don’t negotiate with terrorists. The MGTOW lifestyle is one of not being ran in emotional circles, we’ve developed bear-trap minds free of reprobate thinking, there’s allot you need know found only in the annexes of MGTOW, lets just call it the lost library of Alexandria for proper MANLY thinking!
You’re realizing all these things is the first step to a good head enema! It’s OK, Everyon here has been through what you’re going through now, it’s called “red-pill rage” when the mind first wakens to the gynicentric atrocity one has been subjected to.
Life will only get better when you suite up to do emotional battle with these rottenest of rotten women the world has ever seen!
Every warrior had to start somewhere, welcome to the starting line!
I got here late so I don’t have much to add other than re-read all this a few times. The brothers have your back.
WelcomeMaybe think about changing your nick to something more positive and forward thinking. Carpe diem
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Muglintar
Thank you sir for all your advise. Something about what you wrote stood out to me. It’s so true that living in a household full of women I always felt ashamed of being a man. Like if the most innate qualities about myself were seen as a threat. Like I had to tamed being masculine, this became a bigger problem when I became a teenager. A young boy just wants to be a young boy, but they couldn’t understand it. So I learned to be quiet and polite and to behave like they wanted me to suppressing who I really was. I was never allowed to play sports or to be much outdoors. I think that really affected me. I never got any positive reinforcement from other males. So my the time I was in high school I was the perfect target for bullies. I guess I had carried the things at home into the rest of my life.
I’m going to try to focus my mind of becoming a better man and not so much on having sex with a girl. I want to find my natural masculine identity again. I know it’s going to be hard. Like I said before, I didn’t even know about s~~~ tests or the red pill ideology until yesterday. I guess I’ll never understand why the world is so f~~~ed up. It’s so difficult and unfair to be a man in this world. I was so dumb for trusting this girl. My mind couldn’t comprehend why someone would be so evil, because I would never be like that to another person.
BlacqueJacque Shellacque
Thank you sir. I’ve honestly never felt more appreciated and welcomed than I do here. At home, with only women, loved was always conditional and depended on whether I behaved properly or not. But I’m to know that there are many other men out there that are there for someone like me. This weekend I’ve felt at my lowest and I never want that to happen again. I’m going to be OK, but I have a lot to learn.
Gargamel
Women don’t like men that see through them…
Thank you man for your reply. I also read your story. It seems like you know what’s like to grow up with a house full of women that want to make you feel about yourself. Their love was always conditional and wanted me to not be a boy. Like you said, they expected me to measure up to their expectations when I just wanted to play outside and be free.
I always thought that if I kept on dating I would eventually found a girl that would fall in love with me and that I’d be happy. Now I see that was a mistake. If it wasn’t for the sexual urge I feel to have sex, I would have stopped trying long ago. I need to find another way to use that energy.
The most f~~~ed part is that this girl promised me we would have sex, like she dangled something in front of me and then took it away, like if I was a disposable dog. What would drive women to be so horrible towards men? I honestly feel that being a straight man in this world is incredibly hard. Gay men and women seem to have it easier.
Anonymous43amigo, do not feel ashamed for not sticking your doinkus into some c~~~’s c~~~. the rest of us who took the plunge will tell you the chick wasn’t worth it, the feeling wasn’t worth it, and the feeling of selling off the most precious thing you own – your dignity wasn’t worth what you got out of it. I remember thinking that’ all there is? really?
to me sex felt like putting my doinkus in a jar of warm mayonnaise. then there was the sound, slurpy suction air forced into a tube by a piston and the sides don’t seal so there is blowby. then she makes a half pint of liquid…what liquids does a woman’s body produce…urine, blood and mucus. she makes snot so you don’t get stuck. oh the smell…after sex, my junk smelled like a rubber bike inner tube. then there are the crusties…its your goo that splurts and dribbles and leaks, at first it is slippery and sticky, then dries up.
she will try talking to you but you can’t hear her…your hearing is shut down during sex. lol good thing, you two are making stupid gasping and moaning sounds.
oooo my favorite…the sound of body parts moving and slapping together ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww please God, make me more deaf!
oh, sweat…you two are dripping sweat all over each other.
afterwards yer little buddy down there feels like it went 15 rounds with a golfball washer, sore, pounded, bruised and abused. she has no clue what it feel like to have all those dangling parts, no clue how fragile they are. grabbed, turned and twisted to fit in her, or she grabs your little guy and uses you to get off. ouch!
if your partner had previous experience, she will want more. women reset in about 2 minutes, guys reset hours later. she may be grinding on you for orgasm number 2 and you have nothing to give. not fun for you. hmm unwanted sexual contact…sounds like rape. feels like it, too.
the thrill of watching her undress for the first time in front of you will be intoxicating. after sex you look upon your naked conquest next to you, and you notice things, like one of her breasts is bigger, and there are freckles and bumps in her skin. look closer, and her boobs have hair. there is hair growing out of her nipple…you want to get some tweezers and pull it out. did you look at what you just f~~~ed? who knew there were colors in nature like that? omg God help you should you see what oozed out of her. yeah, all that snot and man goo leaks out sooner or later. omg is that normal? is it std? wtf did I just do? and why are her cheeks so pink.
sex disgusts me. I thought it was a condition to keep my c~~~ happy and faithful. sex is totally unnecessary for you to have a healthy life. no disease, no children, no rape accusations, no regrets, no bulls~~~, no inadequacy, no gossip among girls friends.
I envy you buddy, I sold out to an undeserving whore who cheated on me. I caught her in bed with an ex bf 90 days before we were to get married. broke up with her that second, walked away. she wasn’t good looking, wasn’t very smart, she looked like her dad, f~~~ing her was f~~~ing him ffs. the first time wasn’t a magical feeling afterwards, we got dressed immediately afterward and went grocery shopping and I felt like I peed my pants a bit, wet and gooey down there. I felt like I peed my pants and someone punched me in the jimmies, and she had this pink glow and stupid little smile on her face walking around failmart.
never forget that men are the resource providing prize. women ought to be chasing us.
Cuck No More
What you need right now isn’t women, but MEN. Men to call you out. Men to help you mature into the MAN that you’re supposed to be. By your own admission you never had this.
Damn man, you read me like a book. You are so right. My mother always tried to emasculate me. She wanted me to behave polite and quiet, and to not be masculine or like a normal boy: don’t be loud, don’t spit, don’t eat that way, don’t wear that, don’t go here, be quiet.
She always talked about how terrible men are and how I shouldn’t be like them. I always felt like I had to supress who I really am. I just wanted to go outside and be a boy or a young man. Things got worse when I became a teenager. I didn’t have anybody around to talk about man stuff you know? Like my mother would have f~~~ing slapped me if she knew I was masturbating. Like I always had this horrible shame on my shoulders just because I wanted to be normal like the other boys. So when I went to high school I was the perfect target for bullies.
Forgive my ignorance, but I don’t really know what a beta-man is, but yeah I’m sure my mother wanted me to be a sexless person who would stay to take care of her and my aunts forever. I honestly feel that being a straight man has become super hard these days.
You are also right. I do feel like I need the mentorship and advise of men now, so I can reprogram myself. My head really got f~~~ed up this weekend when this girl did this to me. I’m glad I found this safe place. I believe what you are saying, that only Men can teach other Men about women. I was too naive or noble. But like I’ve said, my brain couldn’t understand why women are this way? So cruel. Like why the f~~~ would she threaten me with telling all my co-workers I’m a virgin. That’s f~~~ing heartless.
I want to learn so please teach me. I want to learn to regain my masculinity and not be ashamed of being a man.
Feminism f~~~ed them all up.
And the “broken families” did the rest. (Broken by nagging mothers as we know…)
Here is a very informative book that I read 26 years ago:
Robin Norwood: “Women who love too much.”
Why they are obsessed with picking “bod boys” and trying to change them.
Women couldn’t change me and so I stayed “free”
An insight why women are hormonally drawn to “bad men” and why they can’t deal with “good men”.
A book about the “victim role” almost all women take/play and continue forever. They see themselves as a victim because they were “wired” that way.
If you are a good man, with a positive inner self, then read this and stop to wonder why women are doing such negative s~~~ with you.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
And I have another must read “bible like” book for you:
Esther Vilar, The Manipulated Man (from 1971)
Here is the free audio version on YouTube. You can also find it as a .pdf on the net somewhere.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Anonymous43bro…
2 kinds of men, alphas and betas
alpha, has money, power, shallow relationships, bad boy lovem and leavem. boss, manager, dr lawyer stockbroker pro athlete good looking
gets all the women, treats them like s~~~
Donald Trump in his younger days
beta
nice respectful thoughtful average looking considerate every day guy works his ass off, thankful for what he has.
you, me and 90% of all men. cant catch a woman falling off a bar stool
women want to f~~~ the alphas…and take the betas money for long term. she cannot get alpha’s money, he isn’t around long enough. but a beta male…long term relationship until she says she isn’t happy and divorces the beta taking cash and prizes.
the broken beta evolves into mgtow…to hell with women. got wrecked by one woman, never again. that’s where I am, I was a beta, lost my home, cash, cars and ultimately my children to the divorce court, the c~~~ and society.
some other words we throw around…Chad, Chad Thunderc~~~…th guy that replaces the boring beta guy after a divorce/during a marriage. if chad is stupid, he settles down with the cheating c~~~ and turns into a beta.
c~~~ carousel… women in their 20s and early 30s who f~~~ anything with a penis, then dump him. a 35 year old woman with a new partner every few weeks will have 50 or more sex partners before she wants to settle down and have kids…baby rabies.
the wall…lol the effect of age and time and partying and riding the c~~~ carousel. women have a sexual market value, younger is better. for men it is the ability to make money that is the attractor. young men are poor and are rejected by their female peers. older men want to date younger women. by age 35 women are wrinkling, graying and sagging uncontrollably. women who do not marry a guy in their 20s will turn into cat ladies by age 40.
alpha f~~~s and beta bucks
women want an alphas kids, and have a beta pay for her and the kids. betas are happily doing this just to have a woman, any woman to f~~~.
have you noticed the quality of women has fallen? tattoos, crappy clothing, swearing in public, drunken behavior, child abuse, false rape accusations, easy divorce, in dating sites, on the cellphone a lot, single moms everywhere? women think they can be s~~~ because beta men are desperate.
red pill/blue pill from the matrix
red pill, learn about how women operate
blue pill, continue to be dazzled by women’s bulls~~~there is no return from the redpill, you will feel angry and betrayed by the society, music, movies, books, school all working against you all your life.
there is a glossary and a history section here
I recommend you tube videosSandman
MGTOW 101
tom leykis
an ear for menfascinating stuff once you see women for what they really are, ya can’t unsee it. if they figure out you are mgtow and unavailable to them, they get p~~~ed, one less man to suck the life out of
good luck bro
ask any question, do not be shy. take advantage of our collective experiences
Anonymous1Uber driver saving lives, AWESOME!
WELCOME BRO!!!
And…by the way, there are 40 years old virgins, there are 50 years old virgins, there are 60 years old virgins, and they are happy like a f~~~ing Christmas when you were a kid!
Stop bashing yourself, society filled you with bulls~~~, shut down your TV and learn about the real world!
Uber driver saving lives, AWESOME!
Maybe it was our Tattoodave…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
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