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This is good advice. Don’t be angry about what happened (you certainly have cause to be angry — but make the deliberate decision to NOT be angry; don’t give people power over your emotions). Treat it as a relatively inexpensive lesson on female nature. Don’t be angry about what simply is, but work toward accepting it and I think that will provide you with a certain degree of mental peace — it has for me.
I’m starting very angry that I’ve been treated like garbage by women all my life without deserving it.
Don’t let your anger get the best of you. Just think of women as you would think of a wild Grizzly bear. Women are ruthless and will tear you to pieces because, like the Grizzly bear, that’s just their nature.
You shouldn’t hate or be angry at something that only does what it does due to it’s own nature, right?
Also, try and look on the positive side. At the age of 25, you are learning the truth about women that took most men well over half their lives (and multiple crippling divorces) to figure out.
Smile Dude! Compared to a lot of guys, you are now way ahead of the game…
Welcome!
I’m pretty late to the thread, but I’m glad to see you have already received some great advice from so many members on this site.
After reading your story, I sympathise with your situation at the weekend I can imagine the way that bitch treated you would have been horrific to experience, but her behaviour doesn’t surprise me. I know it won’t have felt like it at the time, but in hindsight, it could likely be the best thing that has happened to you this year! I don’t believe in coincidences too much myself, but her actions, fortunately, led you to get that Uber home and thankfully your driver introduced you to MGTOW.
So to reiterate, Welcome. There is a plethora of information on here and Youtube etc. which I think you will find incredibly insightful and beneficial and can say from personal experience once your eyes are opened up to women and their actions/behaviour/manipulation/general BS. you’ll never think or see them in the same light again.
It is so much better on this sideThe single biggest threat to your happiness is women and the only way to win is to not play the game
I can’t change the s~~~ childhood and youth I’ve had, but maybe I can be a better man now that my eyes have been opened.
You can be a better man, all it takes is removing the shackles you have to women. Watch some videos of feminists on YouTube, watch The Red Pill documentary by Cassie Jaye, read The Manipulated Man by Esther Vilar, research Briffault’s Law. Realise you are nothing more than a tool to a woman; a slave to afford her a life of luxury whilst you live out your days slaving away for her ungrateful ass, all for the chance to get a little pussy and some reassurances that you are good enough.
You are good enough, without the validation. You just need to realise it. Once you do, your confidence will soar, women will fall at your feet because they hate not being able to get their own way with the power of their vagina alone. And I trust when they fall at your feet, you will walk over them and keep walking, leaving them grovelling like the pathetic excuses they are.
Welcome to the real world brother.
No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.
Alright, I just read this whole thread and here is what I have to say that would probably help you more than all these other opinions that the other people have said. First of all, you have been sh*t tested like one person in this thread pointed out, and you failed miserably, but there is a lot more to this. If you would of not agreed to have sex in a hotel room with her that was paid for by you, maybe she would of over looked the fact that you are a virgin and even stick around in your life still, because you would show that at least you have standards. The reason is because you would prove that it is not like if you are creepy enough to just lose it just like that in a cheap hotel probably, on your own dime. You see, there are actually girls out there that hate creepy guys with a passion to the point that they would mentally hurt them the way she did to you. For certain girls, if you are creepy, you are probably also rapey too, and to them, people that are rapey are scum. So it is not the fact that you wanted to have sex with her that is the problem, it was the way you went on the delivery in trying to set up the sex event which to her is very creepy in itself. Also, she knew that if you failed this sh*t test, she would have just so much ammunition to use against you just to get rid of you in her life. I am sure that you will learn a lot from this so that this will never happen again and you would be a better man for it. I just basically told you what you need to hear to see the past event for what it was and I hope that you would at least understand the event enough to not be traumatized by it all anymore because there is like nothing much left worth figuring out anymore.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Disenchantedbro-
I can relate as I didn’t lose my virginity until 33; even though the first time I tried to date someone and have sex also was with a former coworker. She also dumped me deliberately because she didn’t think the sex would be good for her because I was a virgin. However, she dumped me in her cube at the office. Talk about getting emasculated…I was in a fog of depression for months afterward.
Do not sell yourself short. You have inherent value – now you can focus on bettering yourself and allocating all available resources to bettering, refining, and polishing yourself. Independence, self-governance, ambition, and discipline are some of the best ways to realize your full potential.
Do not deny your sexual impulses, but keep them under control and in proper context. Sex does not define oneself. However, accept that it is a part of our genetic makeup. But, we do have the capacity to control our urges. The importance of sex as a “rite-of-passage” has been manipulated and distorted by society and media.
There is a plethora of more important self-actualized goals and achievements that will provide you with much greater yields for your investment of time and effort. Do you think a prospective employer will focus on if you’re a virgin or if you have relevant job experience?
Being 25 puts you in the prime of life…you’re in the driver’s seat of high-performance vehicle. Step on the gas and see what you can do…
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Sorry to hear this happened to you Disenchanted Bro. Frankly, you had to learn and take the red pill one way or another. You have been brainwashed by society to be ashamed to be single, a virgin, and not living up to a woman’s standards. Keymaster is right about everything that he says.Don’t be ashamed to be a man, to be a virgin, or living up to someone’s standards. The truth is, none of it matters in the end. You were not a man until you understood what you have done, and learned to never do it again. Stooping down way low and giving your all for a woman who could care less doesn’t make you a man, it makes you a brainwashed coward.
There is nothing wrong with being a virgin. Oh, you didn’t ejaculate in a female reproductive organ? Big deal. Stop thinking like you owe a woman something. You owe women NOTHING.I like what Keymaster also said about asking a woman out. The second you ASK her to do something with you, she knows you will put your blood, sweat, and tears into her. She knows you are a slave to her beauty. While you work your ass off trying to get with this woman, she can sit back and watch you like a wild animal at a zoo.
Blue-Pill man- Hey bro, I just lost my virginity to this hot girl! Bro, why are you a virgin? You need a girlfriend man.
Red-Pill man- That’s cool. I work in management at a business making $75,000. Good for you.Being single lets you think clearly. You are a free person with nobody to govern your life. Focus on doing what you love and making the sweet cash flow. You will also have twice as much cash than a married couple with kids (even if you don’t make a fortune). Think about it, a marriage alone can cost hundreds, maybe even thousands. Then, a child costs another few hundred, even a few thousand. Why not be independent?
I’ve been in a similar situation. My last and final attempt finding true love (true torture) was with a girl that also teased me for sex. Of course afterwards, it fell apart due to an already present boyfriend and with no loyalty.
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Overall, don’t fall for a women’s tricks anymore. Sorry to be direct, but you had to learn. You need to understand that you shouldn’t be hopeless from not finding love. A woman should not be the reason to have life on this earth. Don’t be ashamed, don’t be miserable, and certainly don’t be a slave. Be a man, be smart, be vigilant, and go your own way.
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We are the generation of men that will not be slaves to women. We are awake.Welcome Bro. Honestly I felt so bad for you after reading that story. Personally I think you got a lucky escape there.
If she’s this vindictive and nasty just as you were getting to know ker,do you honestly think she’d of made a good gf or even friend?
Your story reminded me of something similar that happened to me when I was 16. I asked a girl who I worked with to house party, she said yes and I thought sweet. Anyway the night I called over to her house her older sister answered the door to tell me she was out.
So obviously I was like wtf and to be honest I could see her sister was lying for her, the f~~~ing eyes tell all. So as Im walking away from the house I noticed the upstairs curtains moving, the c~~~ was obviously peeking out the window to make sure I was gone.
When I got to work that monday (after school) she started to spread rumours that I called to her house at 3am, drunk and was calling her names.
I had to deal with everyones s~~~ for weeks after and when the truth finally came out not one c~~~ I worked with had the decency to apologise to me.
And for a long time after I felt exactly like you did.
So you’re not alone Bro!Guys, I am sorry for being so direct with this guy, but at least I also gave him a way to save face because that past does not equal the future in my view. I really thought that he needed to know what I told him out of respect so that he will grow as a person out of this experience. A lot of times it is the pains of life that make you grow as a person as a whole.
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Anonymous1Wow I’m super late to the thread. But welcome, brother.
Everything that had to be said is said, so enjoy your stay here
I can relate to DisenchantedBro as well – I didn’t lose my virginity until 34 (had a couple of one-night flings in college that were more making out and feeling around), and only had one relationship in my late 20’s that lasted around six months or so (we didn’t have sex but would stay the night with each other – that’s the way she wanted it). After we broke up, I had the best life – had a decent job, owned my house, had money to invest and save, hung out with single buddies watching sports, drinking beer, etc.
Now I’m pushing 50 with two little kids, and married to a woman that I can’t bear to be around most of the time – our sex life is non-existent, she sits on her ass when she’s home with a computer on her lap playing games or on Facebook (while if I’m home, I’m playing with the kids), and she’s overweight and won’t do anything about it except complain about how fat she is. My favorite times are when I have the kids and she’s not around to bitch about everything (I purposely plan activities that I know she doesn’t like so she stays home). I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it (also make sure to max out our business pension, my IRA, and the kids’ college accounts) otherwise she’ll find things to spend it on. My mom is in the process of selling a piece of property, and she’s planning on giving my brother and I a chunk of the proceeds as a gift – have to tell her not to tell my wife so that I can hide it so that she doesn’t see it.
Believe me, as much as I love my kids, I would love to just be a single guy again doing what I want, when I want. The sex fades – now like most married guys my age, we’re just roommates except I’m stuck with her as I don’t want her to ruin the kids with her laziness.
Enjoy your singleness – MGTOW is the way to go. I just wish this site was around back 15 years ago as I’d be a hell of a lot happier now.
I think others here have pretty sound advice, but I’ll just add my thought. I am a virgin and I’m 31. I don’t regret it. There’s no way I would want someone’s “sloppy seconds”. I know for me that, as I get older I will value that more and more. It’s something special to know that in that way you stand out among your peers. It may not be something you could brag about or put on your resume, but at least for me it makes me happy. I think that’s part of what MGTOW is about. Of course if you don’t want to stay a virgin there’s always escorts. No need for the hassle and you make a clean break at the end of the night. You’re young, so things will pick up for you if you continue dating as you get older.
Lastly, don’t ever date girls at work. It’s a disaster waiting to happen. If she wants to tell everyone that you’re a virgin, I personally wouldn’t give a s~~~. There’s many people your age who are virgins, far more than you would think. The REAL problem is that she could pull the harassment card and you could lose your job.
Mr. Boats: "'Avoid the reeking herd! Shun the polluted flock! Live like that stoic bird, the eagle of the rock!' You know what that means, son?" -American Splendor
Anonymous13Yesterday, after trying to get in touch with her the whole day I went to her place. She came out and just told me to leave her alone that she didn’t want to see me anymore and that if I tried to approach her she would tell everyone at work that I’m a virgin.
I haven’t read this thread as I was ‘away’ when it started.
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That bit I quoted, THAT’S the part where the MASK simply dropped off.
This is your whole problem, you’re thinking how can the sweet girl I knew say and threaten such a despicable thing for no reason. This has shocked and hurt you, I mean how the hell could she?
WRONG.
She was never THAT girl.
She was ALWAYS a F~~~ING NASTY EVIL C~~~.
She just hid it for a while.
Once she didn’t want to play anymore off comes the mask and then you get to see the real demon cupcake who lurks inside.
This one’s a real rotten, nasty, f~~~ing evil piece of s~~~.
I’m sorry, man.
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