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[chirParticipant]

MGTOW is shared experiences and where we share news of the world as it affects the men of the world. We don’t live in an echo chamber because we have to LIVE in this gynocentric western world. If anything the western world has become a gynocentric echo-chamber where politically correct speak is the only speak allowed. Vary from the norm and you are ostracized and shunned.
I look at this MGTOW website as the canary in the coal mine. If it is taken down by the government or raided so the user information can be “investigated” by the “hate speech police”. Then I know the canary is dead, time to hit the ground. 🙂

To the OP, good work. Well read. Logical and reasoned.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

We know MGTOW is not an echo chamber – far from it! – and there are PLENTY of receipts in the litter box forum. Plenty of response video disputes and even threads where we would slightly disagree on base principals. Like just a couple of hours ago.

Be aware that detractors will stop at NOTHING to try and get you to do what feminists , SJWs and Leftoids do. To talk about “what they are NOT”.

We don’t exist to disprove unfounded accusations by those who’s disapproval is entirely irrelevant. “Echo Chamber” is a lame keyword used to avoid saying “men from all walks of life and parts of the globe who understand each other”.

Living harmoniously is not their plan.

Just look at any marriage or relationship. Not even that is an “echo chamber” and they are EXPECTED to get along. They made a VOW to love each other and they STILL can’t pull it off.

So there is never a need to say “MGTOW Is Not An Echo Chamber”.

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It’s like when a woman asks:

“How do I know you’re not a serial killer?”

“How do you know I AM???”

In September 2009, a woman once asked me that on a first date when I invited her over to my place. I am not interested in proving that I am “not a serial killer” to some dumb bitch who would even ask that question – before making any effort to first know what kind of man I AM.

Turns out I didn’t need to prove it either!
She LOL-ed and came over anyway.

Then we shagged, and everywhere we went for a few dates after that, I asked “how do you knew that waiter is not a serial killer?” And “How do you know that repair man is not a serial killer?” And “How do you know that pizza guy is not a serial killer?” …. ” – every hour on the hour until she cried and BEGGED me to stop.

… and then I did it MORE until I never saw her again.
She will never ask a man to “prove” he’s not a serial killer again.

Any woman who is displeased with me is insignificant.
Any woman who is displeased with me is insignificant.
Any woman who is displeased with me is insignificant.

How’s that for an echo chamber.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

Is MGTOW in a echo chamber? To answer this question we first have to define what a echo chamber is. Link found here.

Observers of journalism in the mass media have recognized that an echo chamber effect is occurring in media discourse.[1][2] One purveyor of information will make a claim, which many like-minded people then repeat, overhear, and repeat again (often in an exaggerated or otherwise distorted form)[3] until most people assume that some extreme variation of the story is true.[4]

The echo chamber effect that occurs online is due to a harmonious group of people amalgamating and developing tunnel vision. Participants in online communities may find their own opinions constantly echoed back to them, which reinforces their individual belief systems. This is happening because the Internet has provided access to a wide range of readily available information and people are increasingly receiving their news online through untraditional sources. Companies like Facebook, Google, and Twitter, have established personalization algorithms that cater specific information to individuals’ online newsfeeds. This method of curating content has replaced the function of the traditional news editor.[5]

Online social communities are fragmented when like-minded people group together and members hear arguments in one specific direction. Social networking communities are powerful reinforcers of rumors[6] because people trust evidence supplied by their own social group, more than they do the news media.[7] This can create significant barriers to critical discourse within an online medium. Social discussion and sharing suffer when people have a narrow information base and don’t reach outside their network.

Many real-life communities are also segregated by political beliefs and cultural views. The echo chamber effect may prevent individuals from noticing changes in language and culture involving groups other than their own. Regardless, the echo chamber effect reinforces one’s own present world view, making it seem more correct and more universally accepted than it really is.[8] Another emerging term for this echoing and homogenizing effect on the Internet within social communities is cultural tribalism.

To answer the question of MGTOW being an echo chamber is not as complex as one might think or believe to be the case. Through shared experiences of men from various ages, backgrounds, religions, and different cultural beliefs around the world men have become aware throughout history that women time and again have proven that our shared experience is the truth when the discussion of the nature of women is broached.

Males from a very young age are taught social constructs from parents, educators, mass media and advertising that we have to behave a certain way at all times. The entire world has been one big echo chamber lying to men and telling them this is the only way one should live. Educate yourself, get a good paying job, find a woman and marry her and start a family. Work your ass off and if you have to even die while working so be it as this is your duty as a man because men are disposable. Once his kids grow up they are taught the same thing, and they too start on the same path their parents went down and the cycle continues to repeat itself.

Along the way great men like Nicola Tesla break from the mold of traditionalism and forge their own path to great things for themselves in life avoiding the echo chamber of their parents and society. Some people sadly do not get to have both parents in their lives so they have to be educated by strangers to keep them on the same path as everyone else.

MGTOW is the response to breaking away from the echo chamber of the world. Yes we come on here and tell people the same things over and over because it is the truth! If you had the premise that we are in a echo chamber you are throwing out facts and truth to the side and ignoring what makes men from all walks of life come here to discuss their personal experience with the world.

If we were in a echo chamber there would be misogynist posts constantly directed at women hating everything they stand for like feminism. Instead what you find is men who after feeling betrayed, mistreated, robbed and let down by women, government, courts and society as a whole; over time they forgive but never forget the lessons they learned by taking the red pill. You will see countless posts on here by men that tell other men not to hate women, it is their nature to just be this way and to learn from our mistakes and move forward with your life.

Granted there are men who genuinely hate women for everything they were put through and that is to be expected it takes time for the red pill rage to go away and have acceptance of what life is really like out there and for some people this can take years to overcome. MGTOW has not just started over the last couple of years, men have been seeing this play out for centuries.

The internet has empowered anonymous men to connect on a global scale and share their experiences that was not available to our ancestors in the past because it was not in the interest of society for men to go their own way. It has also given women the same power to create feminism and turn it into a third wave of cancerous misandry and illogical misrepresentation of “facts” like the myth of the wage gap or rape culture men are subjected to on a daily basis in our society today.

It is in women’s nature to try to shape and change men to their belief system and ideology because it is to their benefit for survival. As men we can’t hate women for being this way it is just in their nature you need to accept and understand this and not be manipulated by them. It has already been stated on numerous posts here regarding AWALT and I will not get into details of their nature most of us already have read and seen through shared experiences, facts, and personal observations what the nature of women truly is. For those who are new please read and learn what is posted in the forums and if it is parroted and looks like an echo chamber it is because every man here is speaking about the nature of women as fact because they themselves went through a similar experience.

Men have been divorce raped by their ex wife and the state, falsely accused of rape and domestic violence, rejected by women as they climbed the hypergamy ladder and the list goes on and on. This is why we are shamed, manipulated, and scorned by the mangina, simps, and females of our world because we bring the truth to light.

We are living outside of the echo chamber, off the plantation and have found sovereignty and dignity by going our own way and living on a path we know is right for us and not for the benefit of females and society as a whole. The mainstream media will continue to deliver their attacks on us because we threaten their echo chamber of conformity and servitude to the state and female gender.

Stand on your own two feet after you have been knocked down by this world and walk your own path to a better life the way you see fit for yourself. If that includes a woman in your life or not that is the choice you have to make. There are men on this site who still date women, interact with women, and are even still married to a woman and some men are in fact gay and still have the same shared experience as those who are not in a relationship. If we were all an echo chamber like some like to point out in the main stream media and by society in general this would not be the case at all.

If you learn anything from this and I had to break it down in once sentence to help you along your path on the MGTOW road I would say this to you. Remember one chance per person per lifetime and never cohabitate, marry, or have sex unless you use protection for your own well being the rest is up to you on how you want to live your life. I appreciate you taking the time to read this long post if you got this far have a beer on me thanks for your time.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant]

As a student currently working on grad school, I can say the University system in the U.S. is utterly f~~~ed. I have a roommate with 80K+ of debt and he isn’t even using his degree… Word of advice for younger fellas out there, avoid college. Today’s universities are nothing more than Marxist echo chambers. Jordan Peterson said it best, “Avoid colleges now, and join a trade”. This is coming from a clinical psychologist with his P.H.D.. Universities have failed men, and aren’t what they once were. Education is a joke now that feminazi ideology has infiltrated higher learning. A learned man is difficult to find now. I am under the assumption that this is by design. Dumber more complacent men are easier to control.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You can delete my comments

Not necessary because we understand each other and worked it out. And we would’t want to be accused of having an “echo chamber” here. Right? Have a pleasant evening and enjoy the rest of your weekend. Cheers, my friend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[the roadParticipant]

5/0 hostile sexism.

lol and I don’t hate women. I answered this as I would anything else, with equality in mind, I am a libertarian afterall.

This moron has no clue what equality is and her “quiz” is a bunch of made up bulls~~~ created in a feminazi echo chamber.

#MANOUT

[Anonymous]

I recently reopened a fb account because it’s the easiest way to keep tabs on a hobby(airsoft). I only made friends with other fellow airsofters thinking it would result in minimal bellends. For the most part it did but I have deleted off a couple chaps who can’t keep their echo chamber buzzword bulls~~~ to themselves.

Still baffles me that anyone can spend an entire evening with their nose in that particular book.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant]

I can attest to all that is said here. I finished undergrad from Texas A&M University in 2014. I had to take a women’s psychology class as one of my electives. Little did I know that it was a Feminazi, Marxist echo chamber. I was scolded for being a white male, that established the patriarchy. Apparently fellas, I single handily made the patriarchy, so I guess you can thank me for the contribution to your fallout with women. XD On a serious not, this s~~~ really has gotten out of hand. I’m in grad school and even the effects of PC culture has permeated here. I just now see a bunch of panty waist fascists. There are a ton of though police, and the 1st amendment is under dire straights.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous]

PistolPete wrote:

Much as I often disagree with you THX I always appreciate your dedication to your point and the fact that often you offer a totally different perspective on an issue—and you challenge convention— After all the Forum is not an echo chamber. We need a diversity of viewpoints. So I would ask that no matter the nature of the problem don’t leave. I would miss our little arguments; and we do agree on things sometimes. So take a deep breath, relax its going to be OK…again I would miss your posts if you left.

Love ya Pete, and I know you are a real, solid, good person on the inside.

[PistolPeteParticipant]

Much as I often disagree with you THX I always appreciate your dedication to your point and the fact that often you offer a totally different perspective on an issue—and you challenge convention— After all the Forum is not an echo chamber. We need a diversity of viewpoints. So I would ask that no matter the nature of the problem don’t leave. I would miss our little arguments; and we do agree on things sometimes. So take a deep breath, relax its going to be OK…again I would miss your posts if you left.

[AttonParticipant]

Many reddits are echo chambers its just that simple.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[AttonParticipant]

Message boards kill echo chambers, think IMDB is going to s~~~.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[BoarParticipant]

Well, I cannot say I am surprised. With the increased demand for ‘safe spaces,’ any place that might post a conflicting opinion or possibly even the truth is threatening.

Now if the comment section was an echo chamber of the most victimized segment, it would have been lauded as a raving success of equality and fairness.

IMDB gets 1/5 stars….

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[DDJParticipant]

Big Boss…

That’s what makes this poll so telling…this is this fool’s echo chamber of sycophantic followers…He was hoping for super high numbers hating Trump. He chose the most biased sample…those who follow him and voted Shillary.

His Followers hate Trump…yet half of them said fake media was a bigger threat.

Even the left cannot control the narrative anymore…the truth is coming out.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[Mr. SpockParticipant]

Twist wrote:

I feel it. I can’t measure it, but its certainly there. And I feel it not just from the logical group, the men like me – who have had our turn in the barrel and have had our personal experience lead logically to MGTOW. But I feel the real promise from the younger men – HighSchool, 20’s etc., guys who have not been divorced raped or had their children taken away from them. They are the real drivers of this change – they will keep from stepping in the bear trap, and will starve the system. I look at my role as supporting these younger men, providing a fair and balanced view of why stepping in the bear trap will ruin their f~~~ing life…

Well said Sir. I feel the same way. One of the things I want to do is help younger men keep from making the same mistakes that I have made. This is my motivation for being here. I know at times I may sound like an echo chamber but some things have to be repeated from time to time because the lurkers and new members may not see the older posts that were originally written about certain subjects. If I even help keep ONE man from getting married or co-habitating with a female, I will I have done some good.

She's not looking for love. She's looking for someone to finance the lifestyle that SHE thinks SHE deserves.

[BoarParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

Just another way to censor people. Soon they will disallow any ‘hated it’ movie reviews.

And they just proved they are merely another echo chamber for the industry. Unplug from them like facebook and walk away.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[CataphractParticipant]

Blue Skies wrote:

what’s the source of 3rd wave feminism?

My guess is social media, it provides them with echo chambers and unrepresented levels of validation not dreamed of even 20 years ago.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[The man in the mountainParticipant]

Akhilleus wrote:

Ya watch out for the c~~~asaurus rex pack of women feeding each other bulls~~~ I bet she was jealous and just trying to make your x miserable like her. Glad you made it out early and young.

Yeah it’s like women have their own echo chamber of stupidity and contempt, they are happy with bitching and complaining for hours when they get together, but only the top whore gets the last holy word to say in the group, then they all agree and move forth to cause hearth ache and problems to their boyfriends, friends, family and husbands.

Truly disgusting this habit of the pack mentality in which the alpha female wolf guides the rest.

I want to take the opportunity to thank the MGTOW forums for giving me the opportunity to post something on this forum.

I have been MGTOW most of my life, i didn’t start seriously dating until i was 23, now i am 25 and totally gave up on it, not only because the rules are completely stacked against us and women only see us as tools or providers, but after seeing a friend of mines go to jail here in Florida for a year before hes trial was up. He was later found innocent and the girl only went to jail for 2 months for filling a false police report.

I will now talk about the topic of this thread, the slut echo chamber, i was 23 and was with a girl who i knew from high school, i slept with her in high school many times in the past ( nothing serious ), she was a nymph, i finally decided to make the move on her after reconnecting and it worked for a while, then i started to get information out of her, for example she slept with and tried to have a relationship with a younger guy before we reconnected, she told me that she did that because a friend of hers ( female friend ), told her it was a good idea, she told me how terrible it was blah blah blah, then after a year of us dating she started to hang out with her female friends, one of them who i knew from high school, the other one i didn’t know her personally, but my now ex gf told me that this girl was a total slut, she would walk up to men and grab them in the crouch and whisper naughty things to them ( good luck doing THAT to women ).

My now ex gf told me that this these two girls were having lunch at a restaurant with her, the slutty girl in question started to harp about and promoting freedom and sexuality, telling my now ex gf that she should dump me and sleep with different guys to get “favors” and money, i was shocked, but not completely, i did my best not to show to my ex gf that i was, guess what?, few months later my ex gf became distant, we would go for weeks with out seeing each other and i would call to check up on her and no response, when i finally got to talk to her and we fought over this lack of interest on her part, i dumped her like a sack of potatoes, she cried for weeks, begging me to forgive her, telling me i was the best man she ever met, fast forward to a year later, my ex gf got dumped many more times by other men, she would try to cry on my shoulder, i would totally ignore her calls and texts, i have not spoken to her in a good couple of years now, revenge can be sweet, karma can be a bitch.

My first experience and Stockholm Syndrome/cognitive dissonance reaction with an aggressive woman starts with my mother. She instilled that single moms and women in general are perfectly acceptable to be verbally and physically aggressive with men and boys. From there, as I reached adulthood, I didn’t bother with women that much out of a lot of fear. It wasn’t until recently (2-3 years ago), that I dated 3 women in a row who slapped me at least once. One of them hit me hard in front of my friends and that was the moment that not only did I dump her, but I also decided I had to re-evaluate who women are to me and how much I need to even interact with them. So, I’ve been ghosting ever since you could say.

As I explained above, I was blue pilled through my aggressive single mother raising me, with the society I lived in (very r-selected) further reinforcing that same feminist narrative. I have listened to other philosophers and activists in the MRA, MRM, and MGTOW space over the last years and that ultimately has red pilled me. I was truly starting to feel trapped until I heard the rational truth of the genders, especially based on human evolution and our biological make-up.

I’m an activist and philosopher, constantly striving to reveal truth into people’s echo chambers. I like working out and being in nature (hiking and mountain biking mostly). I’ve been in therapy for almost a year now and have come a long way in my growth to embrace my masculinity and biological role as a man.

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