"You'll end up changing your mind and wanting kids."

[CaliParticipant 753]

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

Exactly. Men are nothing but sperm donors in the eyes of the government and women.

I think it was Tom Leykis who once said that your sperm are like millions of tiny credit cards, and should be guarded like Fort Knox.

Whether or not you ever have a child, just make sure that no woman can ever wrest him or her from your care without a dang good reason.

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[CPT ObviousParticipant 2760]

XSDBS wrote:

CPT Obvious wrote:

8. EX#2: We can’t have sex anymore unless we get married.
9. ME: Whatever, let’s just get married then.

When a woman attempts to use sex as leverage, END THE RELATIONSHIP IMMEDIATELY!!!
YOU are in control of your sex life, NOT HER!!!

Yeah, well, that’s obvious to me now….

"You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

Cali wrote:

Whether or not you ever have a child, just make sure that no woman can ever wrest him or her from your care without a dang good reason.

Yep. I’ll never have a child to begin with, BUT if I ever have the urge to, I’ll just adopt a 5/6 year old boy from another non-western country. At least then, the state and women won’t be able to take them away.

I feel sorry for the blue pill men who’ve already had kids and have no rights to them at all.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Cali wrote:

I think it was Tom Leykis who once said that your sperm are like millions of tiny credit cards, and should be guarded like Fort Knox.

We have a winner! You’ve done your homework.

But where I just shake my head is when I hear “I want kids” or “I want another baby” and I just marvel at their stupidity.

YOU’RE NOT HAVING A “BABY”.
YOU’RE HAVING ANOTHER ADULT. GROW UP.
“I WANT” IS NOT A REASON.

But when a woman tells a man what he wants — like “you’ll want kids” — that’s when she deserves to get her ass intellectually kicked out of the room.

“don’t ever f~~~ing tell me what I want again. If you have any questions, you may ASK.”

An ex-girlfriend once wrote to me and sent a baby picture at Christmas and said “you should have a kid”. How presumptuous and arrogant can she get? Forget “the kid”, there is no reason for a woman to tell you what YOU should do – EVER. So when they try that s~~~ or tell you what you want, correct them on the spot.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[CaliParticipant 753]

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

Yep. I’ll never have a child to begin with, BUT if I ever have the urge to, I’ll just adopt a 5/6 year old boy from another non-western country. At least then, the state and women won’t be able to take them away.

I feel sorry for the blue pill men who’ve already had kids and have no rights to them at all.

Yeah, honestly, if I ever wanted a child, I wouldn’t want it to be my biological offspring anyways. I’ve suffered from ADD and multiple allergies in my childhood (outgrew the ADD problems, not the allergies), both of which, to my understanding, are genetic. I wouldn’t wish those problems on any child.

Besides, if I ever want to have a kid, it would be because I knew I could give him or her a superior childhood. I would never want to take on some kid unless I knew that I had the resources and wisdom to set him or her up for success in life. Raising a kid costs around $250,000. If I had that kind of money to raise a kid, I’d take it to a third-world country where I could stretch it further and not have to worry about the government stealing my son or daughter.

Just a misogynist virgin hiding away in his mother's basement. Nothing to see here...

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

Cali wrote:

Yeah, honestly, if I ever wanted a child, I wouldn’t want it to be my biological offspring anyways.

I’m the same way with that. I have no major health issues, but I have a lot of cancer history on my mom’s side and a lot of diabetes on my dad’s side. Which is why I’d never want biological children to begin with. They’d just be more at risk of getting those health problems.

Cali wrote:

. I would never want to take on some kid unless I knew that I had the resources and wisdom to set him or her up for success in life. Raising a kid costs around $250,000. If I had that kind of money to raise a kid, I’d take it to a third-world country where I could stretch it further and not have to worry about the government stealing my son or daughter.

Exactly. At least in a third world country, you’d be able to let your kid have great opportunities because your western money will go further in the long run.

But the thing that keeps me from wanting to have any kids to begin with is the monetary cost and time spent raising the kid. I’d honestly rather put all my time and money into raising a dog. They’re more fun than kids in general.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

One you don’t have to be married to have a child (some states will place alimony on you if you cohabitate). Two you can just get a surgate mother and have your kid that way in which the kid is legally your kid. And three you can try going through the minefield of marriage and have a 50% chance of a chick going after your stuff even with a prenup where in the end you will pay at least child support if not alimony.

The only option that is mgtow friendly is surgacy.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

The problem is people are fed the lie from birth that the path to happiness is to get married, have children and live happily ever after. So they get married, have children and wonder why they are not feeling this sense of happiness they have been promised.

They start to wonder if there is something wrong with them, so rather than say anything they just go along with the lie and try and convince others to do the same as them. Very few people will stand up and say that having children is s~~~ as they do not want to be seen as a bad parent.

People fear others who do not make the same choices as them as it makes them doubt their own decisions. So they try and convince others to have children for validation that they have made the right decision. Also don’t forget that misery loves company so they want everyone else to be in the same position as they are. Someone who doesn’t have children and is happy scares the s~~~ out of them because it makes them realise just what a mistake they have made.

I am 42, divorced and have two children and I still get people asking me when I am going to have more children. People at work moan to me that they are getting up at 5AM and are jealous of the fact that I get up at 8AM, yet they still try and convince me to have more kids.

Trust me, I have been the parent who got no sleep for 4 years. When you have a family to support no matter how much money you earn you never have any. I have seen first hand how a woman goes from a saucy little minx and turns into a grumpy monster who cringes every time you try and have sex with her.

Would I ever go back to being like that? F~~~ no!

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Having kids is a mountain of responsibility

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22569]

MgtowWave wrote:

Having kids is a mountain of responsibility

And in this society, there is no reward in for a man in doing so.

[HitmanParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

“don’t ever f~~~ing tell me what I want again. If you have any questions, you may ASK.”

what else could be said that is more succinct than that ?
damn , that’s why you are the Keymaster !!!
perfect response.
maybe instead of a child they would prefer an order of FRIED ICE !

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9575]

As a kid I was told I was going to get married and have kids. Well age 33, I made a decision not to do either or. First my parents were counting on me getting married and having kids, but since my long-term unemployment crisis, and my negative feelings towards woman and kids, they’ve realized now that for me to get married and have kids would be a major disaster. I agree. So finally, my parents came to terms with that.

I hate kids, I hate woman and I want nothing to do with them as much as I can. Too bad most of the retail jobs I apply for are managed by woman. That would be the only place I would have to deal with woman, because you can’t live a good life without work, where bitches occupy.

Why would I want someone in my life who will own my life and my happiness?

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Faust For Science wrote:

I would like to have a family someday.

But, the law denies me from ever having a family. All I am is a potential debt slave and have not right to have or raise children.

I agree. I’d love to have kids at some point, I just don’t want to be legally tied to the woman they come from or get treated as a second class parent in the eyes of the law because I don’t have a vagina.

[BrujahParticipant 579]

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

“You’ll end up wanting kids, you’re still young and you’ll change your mind.”

“I didn’t want kids when I was your age either, but one day I suddenly changed my mind and wanted kids.”

This is always thrown back at me whenever I mention that it is not likely that I will ever get married or get attached. Everyone seems convinced that I just haven’t found the right girl that makes me want to give that much of a damn for.

I always reply that until I find that magical unicorn, I’m staying where I am. Since I’m not looking, anyone who comes knocking is either a NAWALT or someone pretending to be.

I’m fortunate in the sense that I already don’t like kids as it is.

[sidecarParticipant 35854]

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

“You’ll end up wanting kids, you’re still young and you’ll change your mind.”

Take them to PostWallMart and tell them this:

“It doesn’t matter what I want. What matters is what I don’t want.

Do you see all those single mothers here in the store? Do you see all those children with them? For each one of those children there is a man somewhere who doesn’t get to read to them at night. A man who doesn’t get to teach them to ride a bicycle. A man who doesn’t get to take them to baseball games. A man who doesn’t get to take them camping for the first time. A man who doesn’t get to see them graduate. A man who doesn’t get to see them become adults themselves.

But that man does have to sign a hefty monthly check for the supposed privilege of not being allowed to do any of those things.

I do not want to be that man. I will not be that man. Men can’t have children. Not any more. All men get any more is the bill. Stop trying to push that on me.”

And when they inevitably try to pull the stupid NAWALT argument, tell them to take a look around the store: “Do you f~~~ing see any? Because all the ones I see are exactly like that.”

[FearlessMGHOWParticipant 1928]

sidecar wrote:

And when they inevitably try to pull the stupid NAWALT argument, tell them to take a look around the store: “Do you f~~~ing see any? Because all the ones I see are exactly like that.”

That’s all the ammo they have. Is the NAWALT argument. I hate that stupid s~~~. They just do it to shut down the argument. They never have any real rebuttals at all. Thanks a lot for the advice though. I’m definitely gonna take that quote and implant it in the back of head for future reference.

Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8286]

When I was in my 20s, I didn’t want the responsibility of raising kids.

Now I’m in my 40s and I STILL don’t want the responsibility of raising kids.

I guess I never “grew up.”

I see having kids as a compromise to keep a wife happy so a man can continue having the benefits of a marriage: sex, companionship, and hot meals. This doesn’t always work and some men end up horny, overworked, and depressed. I like being around kids for a few hours—they’re really entertaining. However, being a parent is a 24 hour/7 days a week experience. That would really cramp my style. I think it’s funny how women look forward to having kids and then, later on, complain about how hard it is to raise them. You’d think they’d understand that concept after babysitting other people’s kids.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8286]

An ex-girlfriend once wrote to me and sent a baby picture at Christmas and said “you should have a kid”

Tell her she should volunteer to fight ISIS in the Middle East—as if that extra burden is worthwhile.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[sidecarParticipant 35854]

FearlessMGHOW wrote:

That’s all the ammo they have. Is the NAWALT argument. I hate that stupid s~~~. They just do it to shut down the argument.

Which is why you throw that s~~~ right back in their faces.

“So, not all women are like that, huh? Do you think I’m stupid? Can you point out to me which ones are not like that? What are the percentages? One in a thousand? One in a million? One in a billion? Because for every single one of these fatherless children around you in this store there’s some stupid man who believed the lie that not all women are like that. Then he found out the hard way that not all women are like that right up until the moment they actually are like that.”

Don’t let them shut down the argument. Instead shut them the f~~~ up. Don’t concern yourself with being nice about it either. Pull no punches. There should be no courtesy to a judas goat.

[experiencedParticipant]

9 months * does not equal * 9 pairs of years

9×30 * * 9×730

True tragedy IMO, the guy has a kid and the LAYDEE rips the kid away.

They rip ’em out of the womb,
They rip ’em away from their dad,
They rip ’em away from a happy upbringing,

The maternity string concept = BS

ref SIDECAR’S JUDAS GOAT
JUDAS GOAT LEADS SLEEP TO SLAUGHTER AND IS SPARED:
http://thereaganwing.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/judas-goat.jpg

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

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