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Society exists. It hasn’t always existed like this. Society does what is best for society and not for people. We’re just another brick in the wall. Society DEMANDS that men be disposable tools, and at one point they gave us recognition for this. But now they don’t and they still expect us to be tools. F~~~ that. We didn’t start the fire.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Plus the logistics of society collapsing would just lead to incredible, incredible amounts of death and disease. Every major city would see millions of deaths from starvation…
Humans got along just fine without society before it ever sprung up. I certainly don’t need it. Sure, it makes life easier for everyone, but in the end, I don’t need it to survive.
Personally, I favor every man just end up quitting their jobs one day like in Keymaster’s example on another thread where they quit dealing with the trash.
Society DEMANDS that men be disposable tools, and at one point they gave us recognition for this. But now they don’t and they still expect us to be tools. F~~~ that. We didn’t start the fire.
Yep. I didn’t start the fire that’s burning society to the ground. The majority in charge did. I’m not going to waste my life trying to fix something I didn’t break.
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If I could afford to I’d get a remote place in the country, install the internet and do on-line shopping. Get a dog, go for quiet walks and just enjoy a quiet life. Apart from inviting friends around, no physical contact with anyone. I probably wouldn’t even invite my family as they are now all women. To be honest they wouldn’t know I’ve even gone until they wanted something.
Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.
I plan on doing exactly this. Once I’m debt free, and can find a way to fund living in the woods, I plan on moving out there or install a solar panel into a mobile home like @gnostic posted.
Before you go investing heavily into a mobile home you should find out if you like the lifestyle first.
There is a much cheaper investment of mobile home in the form of a bicycle towing camper.
http://www.widepathcamper.com/wide-path-camper.htmlIt cost $3.5K Euro for the camper and $1.25K for the solar power package.
http://www.widepathcamper.com/prices.htmlIf you think you want some help going uphill you may want a gas bicycle for around $1K (gas filling is more convenient then electric charging if you are or install a gas motor toolkit on your existing bicycle.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-2-STROKE-GAS-POWERED-MOTORIZED-BICYCLE-Not-a-kit-READY-TO-RIDE-/142052799488You will probably need a total of 5-7K for any miscellaneous items you want and things you already have, thus a much affordable investment trying out the waters.
If you find that you like the lifestyle, you can cannibalize parts of it to build you mobile home, like the solar package.
If not you can cannibalize the same parts for your cabin in the woods.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
I suddenly cannot edit my post so sorry if I quote the wrong person above.
Before you go investing heavily into a mobile home you should find out if you like the lifestyle first.
There is a much cheaper investment of mobile home in the form of a bicycle towing camper.
http://www.widepathcamper.com/wide-path-camper.htmlIt cost $3.5K Euro for the camper and $1.25K for the solar power package.
http://www.widepathcamper.com/prices.htmlIf you think you want some help going uphill you may want a gas bicycle for around $1K. (gas filling is more convenient then electric charging if you are far from home) or install a gas motor toolkit on your existing bicycle.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-2-STROKE-GAS-POWERED-MOTORIZED-BICYCLE-Not-a-kit-READY-TO-RIDE-/142052799488You will probably need a total of 5-7K for any miscellaneous items you want and things you already have, thus a much affordable investment trying out the waters.
If you find that you like the lifestyle, you can cannibalize parts of it to build you mobile home, like the solar package.
If not you can cannibalize the same parts for your cabin in the woods.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
you’re more likely to be murdered or hurt in society than you are out in the wild. Man’s biggest predator is man. you’re not likely to break you leg tripping over a root and wolves aren’t that dangerous.
I was just using that as an example. You could hurt yourself in other ways, especially in a new area. Yeah, you can hurt yourself in civilisation too – as it’s been said, I think that the highest percentage of accidents tend to occur in the home – but at least when you injure yourself in the city, the help is slightly more accessible. When you injure yourself in the wilderness, it could be days before you find treatment, by which time gangrene might have set in. Or what if you started suffering from a toothache, which worsened the longer it was neglected?
And while it’s true that you’re more likely to be preyed upon by a person than an animal, with all due respect, Anthony said that he wants to go and live in the wild when society is done, and the main things that he’d need to get by would be a knife and a water bottle. I was just pointing out that, while I’m sure that he’d be a capable tracker, he’d be that much further away from aid if an accident happened.
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
Humans got along just fine without society before it ever sprung up.
Problem is there isn’t any human history that doesn’t involve society…so what exactly are you talking about humans got along fine before society sprung up? Even the earliest hunter/gatherer types traveled and worked in groups. If you want to push it to before humans existed and you think we evolved from some form of monkey…well…look at monkeys…they all live in groups as well and have a primitive structure and rules to their little societies. The concept of society actually pre-dated humanity lol.
Do remember that life before 1900 was short, hard and miserable for most people, despite having society, it still sucked royally to be alive back then.
Problem is there isn’t any human history that doesn’t involve society…so what exactly are you talking about humans got along fine before society sprung up?
I know that, but society wasn’t so advanced back then. You might as well have been living in the woods by yourself/with family back in the 1700s and backwards. I’m just taking it a step further and thinking about becoming a survivalist.
People have done what I’m talking about. And they’ve done it successfully as well.
I don’t care if you want to live in society or not, but to say others can’t live without society just because you’re dependent on it, is bulls~~~ in my eyes.
Do remember that life before 1900 was short, hard and miserable for most people, despite having society, it still sucked royally to be alive back then.
It definitely did. Back then, you might as well have been living in the woods by yourself if you were a single man, because it there was almost no difference in doing that and living in society.
People forget that even back in the 1700s, we didn’t have all the luxuries, medical or otherwise, in society.
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Society once protected us from predators, enemy clans, and helped us all make sure we had enough food to eat/shelter.
Today society is preyed on by woman and elderly, who ironically have majority of the control. I have no use for this current society, in which I’m more of a slave/servant until I’m out of my prime years. Thats extracts my hard earned money through taxes like a tapeworm.
I don’t care if you want to live in society or not, but to say others can’t live without society just because you’re dependent on it, is bulls~~~ in my eyes.
Lol…but unless you literally strip naked and walk off into the woods in some third world country…your dependent on society. What do you want to do…build an off the grid compound full of modern technologies and claim independence from society, that you don’t need them…while you use stuff daily that is only possible thanks to modern society?
Don’t get me wrong man…I try to participate in society as little as possible in a lot of ways…but acting like you’d be better off 100% on your own is just being an idiot. If you don’t think it is, why haven’t you done it yet? If you don’t need society obviously you don’t need electricity, a computer, or the internet…what are you doing posting here when you could be secluded in the woods right now?
Today society is preyed on by woman and elderly, who ironically have majority of the control. I have no use for this current society, in which I’m more of a slave/servant until I’m out of my prime years. Thats extracts my hard earned money through taxes like a tapeworm.
That’s exactly why I strive to live somewhat of a minimalist lifestyle, save a high % of my income, and retire early. I could buy a big house and a fancy sports car…but that means I’ll have to earn more money, which gets taxed, just so I can buy more stuff…that also gets taxed. Wtf is the point? I don’t want to work 50 years of my life just to have stuff when I could work 20 instead and enjoy my time.
Anthony, you may find this site of use, if you are planning on going off the grid. Alot of good information and what to expect from that kind of life.
Anonymous2“You can’t live without society” = logical fallacy.
Life requires sustenance, sleep, and protection from the elements, nothing more.
Today society is preyed on by woman and elderly, who ironically have majority of the control.
TRUTH written my brother. Women and elderly are also the ones that “police” society, being nosey, watching people, asking nosey questions, and making sure you comply with society, and are the LAW CALLERS and will call on ANYTHING they do not like, whether against the law or not. THEY ARE THE ENEMY! I speak from personal experience!
Lol…but unless you literally strip naked and walk off into the woods in some third world country…your dependent on society
Nope. I’ll always be forced to participate in today’s society in someway because of taxes, permits to hunt and fish, and documents such as my ID/birth certificate.
Just because society forces me to be a part of it doesn’t mean I’m dependent on it.
Anthony, you may find this site of use, if you are planning on going off the grid. Alot of good information and what to expect from that kind of life.
Thanks, I’ll definitely look at that.
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I want them to say that after seeing this:
I want them to say that after seeing this:
What do you want me to say, that you’d be an idiot if you think living in a mud hut with no modern conveniences or technology is better than living in modern society but finding ways to limit your tax burden and expenses? I live in one of the highest tax states in the country and it costs me a whole 1600 a year in property taxes to live in a condo where I have access to things like heat, air conditioning, running water, a fridge, a stove, a toilet, and internet.
The truth is if any of us wanted to leave with nothing but the shirt on our back and live in a mud hut we build in the woods, nothing is stopping us…just hop on a plane or take a road trip to a less developed country and don’t come back. Nobody will come looking for you. People that want to act like society has done nothing for them and they’d be better off if society didn’t exist are just full of hot air, otherwise they’d be gone already. From what I’ve seen of people most of them can’t go a few hours without their cell phones and facebook anymore…living in the woods with no technology would be torture for them.
Plus, its not that its physically impossible for someone to survive in the wilderness on its own…its that what are you going to do without society once you get your mud hut in the woods…sit there and stare at a wall all day? I’d rather have access to books, the internet, and video games instead. Or are you going to spend all your time scrounging for food…because 2 hours a week for me at work pays for my food for the week…spending any more than 2 hours per week trying to hunt/fish/gather my food is a net loss for me.
For me the win isn’t going to come from leaving society all together…its going to come from finding ways over the long term to minimize what I pay into society and maximize my benefits from it simply because that is the s~~~ty system our society has designed…you either f~~~ or you get f~~~ed. For example…if we end up with universal healthcare in a few years, I’m going to retire shortly after its implemented and live abroad. I’ll come home any time I have a medical issue, and when I’m old enough I already have enough credits to collect SS so I can have it direct deposited into my account. I’ll also be living off dividend income that has higher tax brackets than payroll so I’ll pay little if any taxes. You can have almost 50k a year in capital gains and not pay any taxes so unless I start hitting my 401k I could be making 3-4k a month in dividends and not pay any taxes on it…in other words…for the remainder of my life I’d be a leech rather than a payer. Why would I want to leave a society that is so stupid its literally going to pay me while I do nothing to add to the system?
I hate the welfare state just as much as the next guy, but considering my generation seems to be quite a bit more liberal and entitled than previous generations I figure I might as well live my life in a manner that will allow me maximum benefit from it rather than working my whole life and buying things that will just mean I pay more taxes and support a f~~~ed up system more than I need or want to.
IMHO
If two or more people coexist in the same geographical area, and mutually assist and accept both the benefits and liabilities of their close proximity. That is a society.
I don’t need or require a lot of what modern society/civilization has to offer. It has its benefits though, I’d be an idiot not to acknowledge that.
I just try to minimize the liabilities that I encounter when I interact with it, yet still be able maintain what I believe is essential for me.
I prefer to be away from the sensory saturation, political correctness, herd mentality, and the over abundance of emotionally and physically weak parasitical garbage that I perceive that “modern” people/societies have become. So I can understand the “let it burn” ideology, and mostly empathize with it.
Personally I’d rather be out in the woods, with a fair bit of modern technology available to make life easier and enjoyable while minimizing contact with my version of “undesirables”.
Having said that, I do know that I would need to be sociable with, and mutually assist some of the people in the geographical area I co-exist in.
I kind of think of my version as a proactive pre-burn in order to control a raging wildfire, that left uncheck will destroy everything in it path.As a side note.
I plan on outliving a huge portion of my supposed “peers” and collecting my fair share of the pie I worked for 🙂There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Personally I’d rather be out in the woods, with a fair bit of modern technology available to make life easier and enjoyable while minimizing contact with my version of “undesirables”.
Exactly. I think we’d all agree society is f~~~ed up from a social stand point, but my life is infinitely more comfortable withdrawing as much as reasonably possible and still enjoying a modern standard of living as compared to going to live like an isolated cave man in the woods.
Plus, its not that its physically impossible for someone to survive in the wilderness on its own…its that what are you going to do without society once you get your mud hut in the woods…sit there and stare at a wall all day?
I’d be doing all kinds of projects on my own. I also plan on making a complete off the grid property in the future. Sure, there would be luxuries like the internet, video games, movies, etc. But, here’s the thing. I don’t NEED THEM. They’re not necessities.
Personally I’d rather be out in the woods, with a fair bit of modern technology available to make life easier and enjoyable while minimizing contact with my version of “undesirables”.
Same here. But, some people just aren’t getting the point I’m making.
The only reason I don’t end up leaving society completely is because society forces me to be a part of it no matter what I do. So I might as well take advantage of it’s luxuries while I still have the chance to.
But, if society were to collapse tomorrow, I’d be ahead of the curb in regards to my survival skills.
@beer said a lot of people can’t live without society. And I’d agree with him.
but my life is infinitely more comfortable withdrawing as much as reasonably possible and still enjoying a modern standard of living as compared to going to live like an isolated cave man in the woods.
But, you’d be an idiot if you think people with strong survival skills need society to survive. Personally, I don’t need society to stay alive. I can do just well whether or not society exists. The only reason I’m still a part of society to begin with is because it forces me to be a part of it.
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