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I hear this all the time from people who oppose the “let society burn” stance.
Personally, I’m in the “let society burn” stance. I don’t care for the things it provides and I don’t need the things it provides. The only reason I’m in this ass-backwards society to begin with is because I was born into it. I didn’t choose to be a part of this f~~~ed up society.
If I had the funds and resources to move out into the wilderness and live as our primitive ancestors did tomorrow, I’d do it in a heart beat. The only necessities I need to survive in a society are a few good computers, a nice vehicle, and a roof over my head.
If we were living in a more primitive state, the only thing I’d need to survive is knife and container to hold water.
But I seriously don’t get the people who say “we need society.” That’s just bulls~~~ in my eyes. I could survive on my own just fine in the wilderness if needed. The only thing society offers me is entertainment, nothing more.
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
If we were living in a more primitive state, the only thing I’d need to survive is knife and container to hold water.
I know what you mean, although what if you tripped over a root and broke your leg, or were bitten by a poisonous spider, or preyed upon by a pack of rabid wolves? I suppose that’s one area where society has its benefits – hospital care is still preferable to bandages and vinegar. Gets the job done faster, if nothing else.
But yeah, after that there’s a sharp drop-off. In fact…just out of interest, what’s your experience with female doctors been like? If you were taken to a female doctor after a serious injury, what would your first thought be?
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
I suppose that’s one area where society has its benefits – hospital care is still preferable to bandages and vinegar. Gets the job done faster, if nothing else.
Society does have it’s benefits there, but the hospital experience in of itself is a complete pain in the ass. I’d rather learn how to deal with poisonous spider bites, broken bones, in a more primitive way. And believe me, I’d end up studying how to deal with things such as poisonous bites before I ever went out to live in the wilderness by myself.
what’s your experience with female doctors been like?
I wouldn’t know. Only thing I’ve ever been to doctor for is a broken wrist when I was a kid. I don’t remember any of it because I was filled with pain killers.
But I do know I hate the hospital experience a lot. It’s a pain in the ass. I take my mom to the doctor all the time and it’s one of the worst experiences society has to offer.
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
Humans did just fine without society back in the primitive days. All that was required was your skills at survival. No more, no less. It was all you.
But somewhere along the line, a bunch of humans said “Hey, wouldn’t it be great if we banded together and helped each other?”
That idea had good intentions, but it’s in human nature to be competitive. Because at the end of the day, people only care about themselves. So society became capitalist-like. For every winner, there was a loser.
Fast forward years later, and somewhere along the way, society became f~~~ed up. Hell, some people are better off without it. For example, this society punishes divorced men harshly for unjust, gynocentric reasons. I’m pretty sure all of the divorced men would like to see today’s society burn or be replaced with a non-gynocentric society.
Just my two cents.
If I had the money I would build a bunker in a remote area and live in it
The only reason I wouldn’t wish society away, is the desire to maintain my ordinary standard of living. Otherwise I would have no use for it.
A few years ago I went on a couple of camping trips with a group in 2010 and 2011. I didn’t think I would like it the first time. But I actually liked it alot. It caused me to realize I didn’t need much to be content.
But I do know I hate the hospital experience a lot. It’s a pain in the ass. I take my mom to the doctor all the time and it’s one of the worst experiences society has to offer.
I hate the hospital too. Miserable and creepy place. I was in there a few years ago for surgery. Only 2 nights. But those were the longest nights and days I have ever known. Reminds me of this.
I take my mom to the doctor all the time and it’s one of the worst experiences society has to offer.
Yeah hospitals can suck when they’re run by idiots. When I was 12 it took the hospital staff thirteen hours to figure out that I had appendicitis. My dad knew that I had it pretty much from the word go, because I’d been displaying all of the classic symptoms – vomiting, fever and cramp in the side, which is exactly what happened to him at about the same age. But rather than listening to my parents, the doctors spent ages arsing about with tests, tests and more tests, even after it was pretty clear what I had. By the time they finally got the bloody thing out of me, it was probably five minutes away from splitting open (sorry for the mental image).
If you could choose your own utopia to escape to when society collapses, which country?
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell
Anonymous24If I had the money I would build a bunker in a remote area and live in it
I would leave the U.S. altogether for a nation that is off the radar, then build the bunker there.
I can only guess with how much the U.S. is messing around everywhere that one day it will come back to bite us with more terrorist attacks/dirty bombs/chemical warfare/a nuke snuck into the country somehow one day, or something nasty that I haven’t even imagined could be possible yet…
Humans did just fine without society back in the primitive days. All that was required was your skills at survival. No more, no less. It was all you.
And even just a few hundred years ago to survive all you had to own was a farm and that’s it. Now a days, most people are too f~~~ing lazy to do any kind of work to survive on their own.
I’m all for society if it helps people, but so far, it just f~~~s up our lives even more. It makes us extremely lazy as a species, it causes us to overeat and become land whales, and it creates self-entitled c~~~s who expect things just to be handed to them.
In my eyes, society does more harm than good. The only good that’s come out of it is that it makes knowledge more widely available and it provides us with great entertainment. Otherwise, I see no benefit from it.
If I had the money I would build a bunker in a remote area and live in it
I thought about doing the same. I’m not a prepper by any means, but the lifestyle does appeal to me a lot. Stock up 30-40 years worth of food and water, and I’m set. And since I’ll be the only one there, the food and water would last me a lot longer than that.
If you could choose your own utopia to escape to when society collapses, which country?
I’d probably end up moving to Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai, or any South American Country.
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
If I had the money I would build a bunker in a remote area and live in it
I would leave the U.S. altogether for a nation that is off the radar, then build the bunker there.
That is a better idea. I’m sure the government wouldn’t like the idea of someone building a strong bunker.
Anonymous42It will be a great time for guys who can fig, build, fabricate and unf~~~ stuff.
Stealthy, you hit the nail on the f~~~ing head!
I have one foot in society and one foot out, not easy, all my efforts have been a bums rush to circumvention, I can’t keep up, I eliminated most of my heating oil consumption after being gouged in the cold @$3.90 a gallon. Now Obama panels under a rainy sky are being charged to our electric bills.
I’m working today to insulate my garage with homemade steel and extruded Styrofoam doors that will also serve as shelving space (heavy duty).
Now these motherf~~~ers have me looking at the brook now!, I know I can get at least 10,000 watts through a homemade turbine and a 16/18 inch pipe tapered, turning volume to velocity, and attaching that to a standard (continuous run) generator head and control panel. I need the pipe I have for the wood chip syn-gas mini refinery I want to build. I also have my breeder tank and pump ready for biodiesel.
I just wanted to build houses, now I’m actually considering burning the one extra I built, the one I went into a bums rush dept just to get it covered. And for what? Can’t get a loan, can’t even sell it at less than half price for two years, stopped paying taxes on it in a situation that can be defined as extortion. All the wonders of Obamanation are coming to fruition.
Let it burn??? WTF! I’m not only going to let it burn, I’m gonna light the motherf~~~er on fire and record the entire f~~~ing event!
Banks sell properties to each other just to keep up the f~~~ing illusion!
They give me 800,000 credit score only to tell me to go f~~~ myself and to use my credit cards.
Then use my credit score to artificially bolster America’s credit, so they can borrow and print money to further their vicious and deceitful cause.
Let it burn? F~~~ YEA! GOT A MATCH?
I know what you mean, although what if you tripped over a root and broke your leg, or were bitten by a poisonous spider, or preyed upon by a pack of rabid wolves?
what a beautiful metaphor for marriage and divorce court
Instead of collapse I wish there was something that would wake people up. Everyone has in their hands more than the computing power that took us to the moon, but what do most do with it, watch stupid cat videos or update their Facebook status.
I will never forget talking to a man that served in WW2 and his unit still holds the longest straight days for combat, talking to me about Dachau and what he saw there. This gentleman was still going to high schools to let kids know about what he saw so they wouldn’t forget.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
If we were living in a more primitive state, the only thing I’d need to survive is knife and container to hold water.
I know what you mean, although what if you tripped over a root and broke your leg, or were bitten by a poisonous spider, or preyed upon by a pack of rabid wolves? I suppose that’s one area where society has its benefits – hospital care is still preferable to bandages and vinegar. Gets the job done faster, if nothing else.
But yeah, after that there’s a sharp drop-off. In fact…just out of interest, what’s your experience with female doctors been like? If you were taken to a female doctor after a serious injury, what would your first thought be?
what if another member of society murders you? you’re more likely to be murdered or hurt in society than you are out in the wild. Man’s biggest predator is man. you’re not likely to break you leg tripping over a root and wolves aren’t that dangerous.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.
Personally, I’m in the “let society burn” stance. I don’t care for the things it provides and I don’t need the things it provides. The only reason I’m in this ass-backwards society to begin with is because I was born into it. I didn’t choose to be a part of this f~~~ed up society.
I differentiate between society as a social construct and an economic construct. Economically I want it to thrive because I want my investments to do well so I can retire early and live comfortably. Socially I think its f~~~ed up and I’d rather be involved as little as possible.
For every winner, there was a loser.
It depends what you compare it to. Capitalism vs everyone living in the woods running around with hand made knives and spears…its more like there are 99 winners for every loser, and under the old way the loser and even some of the winners would have died thanks to natural selection. I can’t imagine anyone honestly thinks living like that is better than what capitalism has given us…nice homes to live in, air conditioning, computers, cars, medicine, etc.
And even just a few hundred years ago to survive all you had to own was a farm and that’s it. Now a days, most people are too f~~~ing lazy to do any kind of work to survive on their own.
I’d much prefer our current system. I can just work hard when I’m young, live cheaply and save a ton of money, and hopefully retire while still in my 30s and live out my days off dividend income. Working and saving for 20 years of my life is a hell of a lot better than having to farm until I die, otherwise I get to starve to death.
Of course its a double edged sword because those who opt to become debt slaves and buy lot’s of physical possessions rather than invest will never see where I’m coming from. I have plenty of coworkers making over 100k a year who don’t have a pot to p~~~ in and think I’m nuts when I talk about retiring before 40 while they have 200k+ worth of mortgage debt, a new car payment every 5 years, student loans, and other debts like credit card debt hanging over their head…their plan, if they even have one, is to maybe be out of debt by 40, let alone have a million dollar net worth.
I’d probably end up moving to Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Dubai, or any South American Country.
Most definitely…especially if US starts swinging even more to the left than it has over the last 8 years. Not that I want to see Clinton as the next president…but if she wins and we end up with universal healthcare in the next decade…its kind of cool because it takes away your biggest retirement expense. If liberals manage to pass universal healthcare and are stupid enough to fund it with a payroll tax I’ll be laughing all the way to the bank/beach lol. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to see such a system in place, but hey, if I’m given the choice of being the guy that leeches the program or the guy that has to pay more than my fair share, I’m getting tired of people riding my back I’d be converting to leech status soon as it makes more sense economically.
what if another member of society murders you? you’re more likely to be murdered or hurt in society than you are out in the wild. Man’s biggest predator is man. you’re not likely to break you leg tripping over a root and wolves aren’t that dangerous.
Probably because as a society we’ve managed to eliminate pretty much every outside threat to our species. In first world countries death due to animal attacks, starvation, extreme weather, etc are pretty much eliminated while they are still much more prevalent in less developed countries, or throughout history. Although tripping and wolves seem like negligible things to worry about, pretty much any illness or injury that requires antibiotics or actual help to correct(like breaks) would lead to permanent damage or death.
Plus without some basic rules enforced by society, people would be all the more willing to f~~~ you over. Look how much crime we have now with laws and jails…just imagine how much more s~~~ we’d have going on if s~~~ty people were just left unchecked and unrestricted. Total lack of authority would bring out the worst in a lot of people.
I hear this all the time from people who oppose the “let society burn” stance.
They do not realize what we have now is not a society. What we have now is a rotting corpse of a society that is slowly decaying everything left that is good in society.
Right now, the strong are not allowed to fix things. The strong are made slaves to the parasites that maintain this festering corpse of a society. Though, if society suffers a quick burn or completely collapse, the parasites will lose control, with the strong can taking charge and rebuilding society as it should be. Not a mockery of society. Which is what we have. Where the strong work. But, the parasitic weak are given all the rewards of the work. While the strong are left with nothing.
One of these day I want to convert a Van into a mobile home and install solar panel on it like these guys
http://inhabitat.com/man-quits-job-to-convert-old-van-into-a-cozy-solar-powered-mobile-cabin/
Someone is kind enough to work out the details and the solar panel on van roof is about $1.5K
http://www.exploringalternatives.ca/we-have-solar-power-in-the-van/There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
North America is in a good strategic position globally
so I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.Move to the country if/when you can,take a first aid course,practice hunting and fishing,do some gardening,
build your own log cabin.At the same time keep on making money and investing so
you have funds for all this.A group of like minded people CAN live very well without
society and I think the time to prove that is getting closer.Whether it’s WW111,biological pandemic,economic collapse
or just a big ‘ol meteor from space those survivors with the skills will be far better off than those unprepared.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Let it burn??? WTF! I’m not only going to let it burn, I’m gonna light the motherf~~~er on fire and record the entire f~~~ing event!
Ha, exactly.
Instead of collapse I wish there was something that would wake people up.
Sometimes I wish that as well, but the way I see it, we’re heading down the same path as Venezuela did.
Man’s biggest predator is man. you’re not likely to break you leg tripping over a root and wolves aren’t that dangerous.
Probably because as a society we’ve managed to eliminate pretty much every outside threat to our species.
I agree there @uchibenkei. Other people are the biggest threat to other people and they always have been. I’d rather deal with wildlife any day of the week than to have to put up with other people’s bulls~~~.
Most wildlife won’t harm or attack you unless you harm or attack it first. Most people who get attacked by wildlife in the first place are usually doing something pretty stupid to provoke the animal.
As far as society “eliminating” any threats, I don’t see it that way. You have retarded social justice warriors willing to commit violence, you have gangbangers, you have junkies, you have thieves, and groups like ISIS attacking cities and people every day in society.
Living deep in the woods with all the wildlife seems like paradise compared to all the violent crimes in inner cities committed by other people.
But, the parasitic weak are given all the rewards of the work. While the strong are left with nothing.
Which is exactly why I want little to do with society as possible. I don’t want to support a society that’ll stab me in the back any chance it gets.
I plan on seeing how long I can live in the belly of billion dollar corporate beasts.
Once debt free…then off to the woods.
I plan on doing exactly this. Once I’m debt free, and can find a way to fund living in the woods, I plan on moving out there or install a solar panel into a mobile home like @gnostic posted.
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
Not a mockery of society. Which is what we have. Where the strong work. But, the parasitic weak are given all the rewards of the work. While the strong are left with nothing.
I definitely agree with this. Its pretty f~~~ed up when the average person will spend 40 years of their life working before they can retire, yet, a 20 year old who goes out and uses a bunch of illegal drugs can get disability and healthcare for life as a reward for f~~~ing them self up even though they’ve never really worked, paid taxes, or added any value to society. Or I know a lot of middle class people who have 1 or 2 kids and stop because its all they can afford…but the single mama welfare whores don’t mind popping out 3, 4, or 5 because their government benefits keep getting bigger each time.
North America is in a good strategic position globally
so I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else.My plan is just to take extended vacations to other places…just get an apartment for a year somewhere abroad…if I like it maybe stay another year…if not try somewhere else, but I’d still have the option to come back here any time if WWIII broke out or something.
As far as society “eliminating” any threats, I don’t see it that way. You have retarded social justice warriors willing to commit violence, you have gangbangers, you have junkies, you have thieves, and groups like ISIS attacking cities and people every day in society.
Society might empower some of these segments, like SJWs, but it keeps others in check. If society collapsed gang bangers, thieves, and junkies would be running rampant with nothing to stop them. I’d rather listen to SJWs whine about patriarchy than have to worry about the local strong man taking all my s~~~ and kicking me out of my house(treating me worse than a divorce court but at least divorce courts would let me keep a little bit!) or killing me for no reason at all.
Plus the logistics of society collapsing would just lead to incredible, incredible amounts of death and disease. Every major city would see millions of deaths from starvation…if all the truckers said f~~~ it we aren’t working anymore they’d have no way to feed themselves. They’d spread out for miles looting everything they came across trying to keep alive. It might be nice to say if the system collapsed you’d have your little farm in the woods but the reality is some group would probably just execute you in your sleep and enjoy your property lol.
Yeah our society is pretty f~~~ed up when you compare it to 50 years ago or to your own unique idea of utopia…but its still pretty god damn awesome compared to most other societies in the world today, and its a hell of a lot better than anarchy would be.
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