women hate softboys

[KeymasterKeymaster]

In agreement of course… but you place much emphasis on “what women like” and “what women want” which is of no real concern to MGTOW. The world is over-saturated with that gynocentrism already, and it is important for you to understand where the pushback from other guys comes from.

When you say “women hate”…. the tuned-in MGTOW brain stops right there.

• A MGHOW asks “why would you even begin a sentence with that?”

• A MGHOW wonders “why are you behaving like what women like – or don’t like – is my job to give a s~~~ about?”

• A MGHOW thinks “in what universe am I required to bend over backwards for what women like?”

It’s not even a man’s job or responsibility to be the man SHE wants.
It’s every man’s responsibility to be the man HE always wanted to BE.

Big difference.

“I don’t care what she prefers. And I don’t care what she hates. What women like, want — or don’t like — is totally irrelevant. So please stop behaving like women I don’t even know should be the center of my universal concerns.”.

That’s all.

Anonymous wrote:

The simple fact is genders can’t change. Women want men to be men . . .

There it is again. “Women want”.

But even if I don’t stop listening right there, you just said something else very important within that sentence.

“Women want men to be men.”
The classic fist in a velvet glove.

Have no illusions. What women mean by this is not at all “pro-male”. She;’s just thinking about herself and sees “men” as traditional/disposable utilities for her own provision, convenience and comfort.

• “I want men to be men . . . . and pay for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and carry heavy things for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and pull out a chair for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and wine and dine ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and treat ME like a queen”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and hold doors open for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and put me ME first”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and rescue / save ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and continue to provide all my luxuries for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and clean streets for ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and kneel down and propose to ME”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and ask ME out and talk to ME first”.
• “I want men to be men . . . . and fight each other over ME“.

You get the idea.

When women say they “want men to be men”, it’s ALWAYS about using him as a utility for her use and benefit. It’s not about “men” at all. It’s all about herself. It sure sounds good, but it is easily understood, perfectly articulated & even explained in the book “The Manipulated Man”.

If you do all those things, then she says you’re “real man”.
If you don’t, suddenly exactly the same man is “not a real man” anymore??

It’s gynocentric bulls~~~.
That’s why it must be rejected.

And that’s where all the pushback comes from here. Because we hear women say “I want men to be men”, and know exactly what she means — even better than SHE does.

There are two videos on youtube which are prefect examples of this. Blonde. Pretty. Soft voice and features. But in less than 5 minutes she reveals herself.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

So its tuna?

Well that explains the stupid f~~~ing karman Gia.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

So its tuna?

No, I wouldn’t say that. Because there are MANY men who are totally unaware of the above ^^ themselves. They hear “I want men to be men” and “what women want” and then they turn themselves inside out to be that guy without thinking about it.

I would guess maybe 1-5% of men can identify this s~~~ at the most.
Easy 95% of men are unaware and fall prey to it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Well, I for one don’t care if women are withdrawing. Just let them withdraw far away from me.

Women “hate” soft boys. They probably hate hard boys also. The only appendage a woman loves is a man’s wallet. They use Chads for sex, but I doubt they love Chads. Women just use them like they use everything else.

I remember someone mentioned the panic button on the new ADT alarms. Now it doesn’t even take a phone call for a woman to ruin your life. She can now ruin your life by simply pushing a button.
With this is mind, I hope they withdraw all the way to Anartica

[Anonymous 7]

So it wasn’t Hitmas fridge after all. LOL!

[goodkid43Spectator 550]

I would argue that if the OP is a tuna, then she destroys her own case and strengthens the MGTOW philosophy by giving us ammunition in the second linked article.

Eric Lauder wrote:

This is actually a false narrative, it’s a mix of tradcon and feminism.

Correct. And I would qualify your statement by saying that it uses the falsehoods of tradcons with the falsehoods of feminism.

But again, their contribution to their own philosophical demise is only welcomed. Let them make their arguments.

God bless, Michael

P.S. Also, having been on this site for over two years, there are many men who are hurting horribly. And any attack on them, such as accusing them of tuna, in their weakened state makes YOU A F~~~ING ASSHOLE OF SATAN. If there is a suspicion of tuna, notify Keymaster quietly.

There maybe be many who surf this site and hurting horrendously but fear the responses and accusations of tuna because of their weakened state. Your ruthlessness EXCEEDS that of the feminists because YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!!

God bless, Michael

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s not just men who are alienated from women, it’s women fleeing from men.

Women fleeing from scum they choose to be treated like s~~~ by, then assault and scream at police as dirtbag Chad goes away in cuffs.

Anonymous wrote:

It doesn’t work. Men are p~~~ed. Women are frustrated

I’m not p~~~ed, I’m laughing with side splitting cringe at shallow stupidity of enabled women.
Who cares if women are frustrated? They be strong independent workers don’t need no man.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

PistolPete wrote:

Gambit wrote:

It’s a she, Pete. See Eric’s post.

Sorry missed it.

I concede the distinct possibility—some of the other threads are ‘questionable” and there is no introduction. I think I’m catching the scent.

She may think that she’s original, and may be she’s somewhat original in USA, but her attitude is widespread and basically the mainstream feminism in my country: it’s openly about men keeping their old role (provider and protector) while women enjoy their new freedoms and power. First being the power in divorces. They even lobbed to have the same rights of marriage contract within a cohabitation arrangement! It was a “feminist battle”!
She don’t even realize what’s going to happen in the long run: society will be more and more composed by singles, and what she calls “depravity” (porn) is just the top of the iceberg, because less than 30 years from now the default sexuality of most men will be “advanced sex toys”, “VR porn”, “sex robots”.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[ghostParticipant]

goodkid43 wrote:

Your ruthlessness EXCEEDS that of the feminists

They did this to us. We cannot stand them anymore. We are ruthless because we have been hurt and want to fight back.

[Lone Wolf83Participant 825]

Back then when I was younger and naive, I would have heeded this advice about women.

But it’s too late, I just don’t give a f~~~ anymore. Quite frankly, it’s very liberating and there is no way that I will go back to my old self. MGTOW is freedom!

If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.

[Anonymous 54]

Well he needs to get a new avitar.
Mabey a Shelby Cobra or something.

I mean, something with a damn motor in it.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

goodkid43 wrote:

I would argue that if the OP is a tuna, then she destroys her own case and strengthens the MGTOW philosophy by giving us ammunition in the second linked article.

Eric Lauder wrote:

This is actually a false narrative, it’s a mix of tradcon and feminism.

Correct. And I would qualify your statement by saying that it uses the falsehoods of tradcons with the falsehoods of feminism.

But again, their contribution to their own philosophical demise is only welcomed. Let them make their arguments.

God bless, Michael

P.S. Also, having been on this site for over two years, there are many men who are hurting horribly. And any attack on them, such as accusing them of tuna, in their weakened state makes YOU A F~~~ING ASSHOLE OF SATAN. If there is a suspicion of tuna, notify Keymaster quietly.

There maybe be many who surf this site and hurting horrendously but fear the responses and accusations of tuna because of their weakened state. Your ruthlessness EXCEEDS that of the feminists because YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!!!

God bless, Michael

Anyone accused of being a tuna/mangina is free to defend themselves here. In fact, even many of the longstanding members have at some point been called a tuna when they arrived. You know what they did? They told those people to “f~~~ off!” like a man would do.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Once I have been accused to be a tuna, too.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Once I have been accused to be a tuna, too.

For good reason. You said there’s no c~~~ carousel, a phenomenon which a great many men on this forum (including myself) have personally witnessed. Fishy thing to say overall.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 14]

Tuna hunts are really f~~~ing bad guys. Who gives a f~~~ if we get trolled now and then, really…?

What Tuna hunts do is narrow the range not only in diversity of topics but also in rate of participation.

I say take the f~~~ing hits like men if they come and treat everyone well until completely certain. That is, of course, unless your intentions are to have only a small handful of men here discussing a narrow range of topics and having an even smaller window of acceptable points of view.

Tuna here? I don’t know and I don’t care.

When I first got here I was basically told to take my ass back to Stormfront, and I am the furthest thing from a bigot you will ever find. The only reason why I lasted is because I am an educated hardass motherf~~~er. The problem is not all men will fight back when attacked, so many have been beat down by life that it is just not in them, if it was ever in them at all in the first place.

[MACHOParticipant]

I went back and read several topics created by gilgamesh and this member sounds like a man to me, I don’t understand why someone would call for tuna at this time for this member.

Just saying.. yep in my humble opinion I think the member should be given more time to prove himself.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[X11Spectator 4520]

I like my tuna baked.

[MACHOParticipant]

Gilgamesh you have plenty of time to prove yourself on here. Maybe you should keep ON reading instead posting, being called tuna can be really annoying. This is an awesome site and you wouldn’t want to lose your chance to contribute even if it’s only on rare occasion.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

So old used up cat ladies have a bad case of sour grapes. So what?

I fail to see how any of that is our problem.

This is just bitter old bitches blaming men for their own relationship failures instead of rightly blaming themselves. Like always. This time it’s some shaming crap about hypothetical “soft boys”. If this article on bitter old single women were honest it would be about The Wall. But these articles are never honest.

[OldBillParticipant]

MACHO wrote:

Just saying.. yep in my humble opinion I think the member should be given more time to prove himself.

Well put, Macho. Let’s all give Gilgamesh some more rope.

There’s no need to rush things and, if they are a troll, members like them always stumble eventually revealing themselves without any doubt.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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