Wish I found MGTOW earlier

[MTGMGTOWParticipant 235]

I only discovered MGTOW very recently right after an awful five-year relationship. I apologize in advance if my story carries on too long. My friends and family don’t understand MGTOW and I need to vent.

When I was in high school, I was very blue pill. I didnt have many friends due to social anxiety, so I was miserable particularly because I never had a relationship (I know, stupid). So I made an account on a social media site for goths, punks, etc. because I thought I’d have more luck finding a girl that shared my passion for metal music and I found that type of girl attractive.

In my senior year I started talking to one girl and we got along very well. We shared interests in music, video games and style and it seemed great. But then she realized I played a card game with some images of scantily clad women and she lost her sh1t. The reason I played wasnt even for the images I thoroughly enjoyed it and the images were just coincidental to me. She insulted me and shamed me for this and I should have gotten out. It was a long distance relationship anyway so we couldn’t see each other. But I had feelings for her and I stayed and stopped playing that game because she demanded it smh.

About a year later we met for the first time and it felt amazing. We got along perfectly during the time we were together and she took my virginity and I loved her even more and was sure she felt the same.

We both had depression and suicidal thoughts so she made me give her my friends’ numbers to “make sure I was okay”. BIG MISTAKE. I started playing the game again with one of these friends and later he told her we were playing the game because I decided to hang out with someone else one day. Just as vindictive and psychotic as any woman. So she bitches again and wanted me to give her my email password because she didn’t trust me… which I did. (I know how much of a cuck I was. No reminder needed.) A few days later she told me she blew some other guy. She thought it was okay to hurt me like that because I kept playing a card game behind her back. Right.

Our relationship still continued because I was extremely desperate and we continued to visit each other given the chance. My feelings grew stronger with each visit. Then she started talking about marriage. I told her no because we couldn’t be together consistently, though I really decided never to do it at all. She was p~~~ed. From then on she randomly brought up marriage and how she wanted kids someday and I had to keep shutting it down.

She kept using the fact that I played the game behind her back to shame me and tell me that she’ll always have trouble trusting me. How hypocritical.

The typical shaming and insulting continued then last October she got drunk with some other guy and f~~~ed him. Did I mention she’s an alcoholic? She told me she was crying right after because she felt so bad about it. Then the NEXT DAY she got drunk with the SAME GUY. “We weren’t alone”. That doesn’t make it f*cking okay. At this point I still had feeling for her though they were weaker than they’ve ever been. Blue pills will stay through anything and I know how pathetic it was.

I stuck around a few more months just because I invested so much time and effort into the c~~~ already. I broke up with her right before Valentine’s Day. She seemed a lot more upset than I was. Hahaha….

I stayed friends with her because we’ve established by this point that before finding MGTOW I was a mangina. It seemed okay for some time, we still talked and played games online together. But about a week after we broke up she started staying over at some guy’s place and f~~~ing him. After she f~~~ed him about four times she got drunk and spilled her “feelings” for him. She said he didn’t take it well, then she saw him talking to another girl on Facebook. She then came crying to me because she felt used. Because she kept me as her emotional tampon. How ironic.

Last week we played a game together then when she went to bed I just broke down sobbing. Staying around and talking and playing games with her so much kept reminding me of the times we spent together when she would sit on my lap while we played games which led to cuddling and sex and the emotions hit me all at once. I could only focus on the few good times we had and not all the times she f~~~ed me over and emotionally abused me.

So I tell her about it the next day and about the feelings I had and she was apathetic. I knew she didn’t feel the same way anymore but she was so cold. Then two days later she tells me that day she started a relationship with the same guy she was crying over being used by. This b1tch’s love comes and goes very easily and I was left wondering if she ever had feelings for me at all. She told me “she still values my friendship”. Bullsh1t. She only wants to keep me around to keep crushing me.

I discovered MGTOW right after that and am glad I did. I now know intellectually that a vast majority of women if not all are just like that skank and not worth even thinking about. However, I’m still having a little trouble moving past this emotionally and subconsciously. People tend to misremember things as being more positive than they actually were. That’s part of psychology. Also, I feel that my desperation comes from my severe lack of self-esteem so that made me stay much longer than I should have. I felt that I couldn’t attract any other woman so I dealt with the sh1t. I haven’t seen anyone else since the breakup, so there’s probably some part of my subconscious instinctively telling me I’m still committed. I believe dating someone else may relieve this, but am also fearful that failing with someone else would make me feel even worse about this.

I know logically that women aren’t worth it, but it is very difficult to align your emotions with your rational thoughts.

Discovering MGTOW showed me the true nature of women, which I was clueless about as a blue pill high schooler. I will not be in any more relationships after this. I chose the name MTGMGTOW because I am passionate about the game Magic: the Gathering and it’s one of the few pieces of individuality that c~~~ allowed me to keep during our relationship.

I know this is a very pathetic blue pill story, but I would be interested to hear other pre-red pill relationship horror stories and would be grateful for any advice to align my subconscious with the rational thoughts I now have. Thank you for opening my eyes MGTOW.

I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

We don’t come out of the womb with mgtow knowledge. Be glad you’re not married as long as you’re alive. That’s when it’s too late. Grab a beer and by the way get me one while you’re up sit down next to m-52

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

But then she realized I played a card game with some images of scantily clad women and she lost her sh1t. The reason I played wasnt even for the images I thoroughly enjoyed it and the images were just coincidental to me.

Would that game happen to be MTG? I play myself, so f~~~ that bitch. Greatest Trading Card Game ever created. I have two badass tribal decks. Zombies brains… and Werewolves Awoooooh!

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome
The card game was just a s~~~ test. She wanted to test her control over you. Once you broke down she had total control so its was time to move on, to go control someone a little more challenging. Classic AWALT.
Sorry, but it’s a good lesson to learn early.
Say no next time and tell her if you don’t like whatever it is your doing to go bug someone else. She will be kneeling in front of you. The more you give the more they take. The less you give the more they offer. Besides, even if she does leave other chicks will feel your confidence and be attracted to you. Keep doing what you like to do.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Me too,

About 32 years earlier would have been ideal.

Man I would be so rich right now.

So much time wasted trying to own the affections of a person when all you can really do is rent.

You can own a dogs affection, but a Cat will only stay while the goings’ good.

If modern women were cats, they’d be Feral.

It's Time to get Wise

[Anonymous 6]

Better to find MGTOW late than never finding it at all brother, I am guessing pretty much everyone here wished they had discovered it at an earlier stage in their lives.

[MTGMGTOWParticipant 235]

MGTOWknight No the game was Cardfight!! Vanguard. MTG has always been my favorite though.

FrostByte You’re right about that s~~~ test. It was desperation that kept me there. I ate up the idea that I needed a woman to be happy in high school and I felt that I was too fat or ugly to get anyone else. Now I know I don’t need anyone.

I've had to learn lessons the hard way more times than I should. I've been very fortunate to find MGTOW when I did. Swallowing the Red Pill saved my future.

[Anonymous 42]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

She told me “she still values my friendship”. Bullsh1t. She only wants to keep me around to keep crushing me.

She want’s all the orbiters she can get, you’re just a servant of her sick twisted matriarchy, you’re just a machine, get used to it!

MTGMGTOW wrote:

I know logically that women aren’t worth it, but it is very difficult to align your emotions with your rational thoughts.

Those that indulge in women carry their mental scent, you stink of pussy thinking. She’s fresh in your mind and so are all the torn out tentacles! Diving back into another relationship is the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, stay on MGTOW road and restore your self esteem by investing all your time and resources to yourself! You’re damaged goods that came to the right place! Welcome to MGTOW! My MGTOW trail spans two decades! Best years of my life! F~~~ all that feeling hurt bulls~~~! TIME TO LIVE!

[AkhilleusParticipant 2486]

He plays magic the gathering any alpha black lotus brother is welcome in my book ! All about the land destruction or minion decks for me.

Aloha means family you don't leave family behind. Who will be the next Draconarius for MGTOW? MGTOW = brothers = acceptance = belonging

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome.

I’m sorry for your hurt, BUT…what I see here is,

You’re young.

Not married.

No kids.

No jail.

For the LOVE of God keep it this way!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Anonymous wrote:

everyone here wishes they had discovered it at an earlier stage in their lives.

Agreed!!!

MTGMGTOW wrote:

……but I would be interested to hear other pre-red pill relationship horror stories and would be grateful for any advice…..

Keep reading everything in the forums and listen to all of the audio files in the archives.

Lots of great advice has been given in the numerous Introduction threads to new MGTOWs in the same situation as you.

Here is a link to some advice I posted in the Forums:

advice-from-an-old-farmer

However, your whole introduction has been about HER and your reactions to HER. Introductions should be about YOU.

Here is a hint: The best Introductions include the fun things you like to do with your freedom.

So, in the reply space below, kindly write more about what is going on with your life now and what would you like to do with your life in the future?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Look bro keep playing MTG and follow the MGTOW way. Make money, invest, and pump/dump. Simple as that.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[MadBikerParticipant 169]

Welcome to the fold brother.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Welcome aboard! I never played MTG but I have friends that do and they really REALLY get into it.
I’m trying to ween them away and get them into table-top AD&D…anyway you did a fine job escaping from crazy-c~~~ and surviving the oneitis. (I’ve had that twice in my life so I understand) Of course now I understand it was all just societal programming. You go bro!

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

MTGMGTOW wrote:

I invested so much time and effort into the c~~~ already.

It’s a “c~~~.” Break that mangina behavior and say (and spell) what you actually mean! Great story, by the way. I hope many read it.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

SCARES ARE BATTLE PATCHES WE WEAR WITH PRIDE. SOME WOUNDS ARE STILL FRESH YOU CAN SMELL THE DEAD TISSUE TO REMIND YOU OF HOW BAD IT WAS. SOME HAVE NO SCARES TO REMIND THEM OF THE TORMENT AND PAIN. THAT’S WHY I COME IN HERE AND READ THE STORIES THAT OTHERS HAVE EXPERIENCED. YES, IT’S NOT A PLEASENT THING TO DO BECAUSE MOST OF THE STORIES ARE PAINFULL AND FULL OF STRESS. I HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND VENT MY FEELING OUT WITH MY FELLOW BROTHERS, I MAY SOUND OFF MY ROCKER OR A TOTAL LOON BUT THIS PLACE GIVES ME A PART OF MY SANITY BACK. I CAN NOW UNDERSTAND HOW MANIPULATED AND F~~~ED IN THE HEAD THE MAJORITY OF FEMALES ARE. I HAVENT SHARED IN SOME WEEKS. JUST BE THANKFUL YOU FOUND MGTOW AND SPREAD THE WORD. THIS WAVE OF FEMINOTZI CRAP HAS GOT TO BE CAPPED OFF.
WELCOME TO THE FOLD BROTHER. WE SHOULD GIVE OUT A COIN OR A TRINKET TO CEMENT THE OCCASION IN OUR MINDS.

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, MTG
Beer’s in the fridge
You are young, you made mistakes, you owned up to them.
You are a man. You can rebuild your life the way you want it
See all the you’s and your’s in there. It is that easy. You are the prize, not her pussy
That skank doesn’t deserve you. Forget her. History
What do you want, now? Here’s a challenge for you. Re-intro yourself after six months of red pills here at MGTOW. I’ll bet you won’t even recognize yourself

[SilverOneParticipant 440]

Welcome to da house bro. You’re lucky…. you found out early. I never really swallowed the blue pill, but I came from an era when you just gritted your teeth, and stuck with it, regardless. That attitude stuck with me through 4 marriages, 2 as bad as what you went through (9 & 17 years) and one 10 times worse (4 years). We won’t talk about the other one. First, Don’t beat yourself up so bad. Yeah, you swallowed the blue pill, but you can’t really be blamed. You have been conditioned to it all of your life. At your age, PC society has not taught anyone any different. You had no other frame of reference, but you found it, recognized its value, and made it your own. Now you are way ahead of the game. It could be worse. I didn’t find it till I was 61. See what you’ve saved yourself? Stick to your guns, Kiddo. Don’t let yourself get taken in. I know you’re going to f~~~. Just be damned careful not to get kid-trapped. It’s a damned shame no one can come up with a male birth control pill. It may be her body, but for the next 18 years, it’ll be your wallet. NEVER trust that a woman is taking her pill. If one tells you she is pregnant, demand a paternity test right out of the gate, before you do anything else. The best advice I can offer is to just stay away, but I know in your 20’s, that’s a tough row to hoe.

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

[Anonymous 5]

Welcome and thanks for the great read, a terrific intro.
Once you have it written down I bet you find it difficult to accept that you were so blind and so easily manipulated.
Don’t be discouraged, it’s happened to the best of us when we’re “In Love” or as we call it here, experiencing “Oneitis”
Far greater men than you or I have been crushed and are being crushed right now when they’ve allowed themselves to fall “In Love”

Anonymous wrote:

She told me “she still values my friendship”. Bullsh1t. She only wants to keep me around to keep crushing me.

MG-Tower beat me to it but it’s worth repeating again.
All she’s doing now is practicing her torture techniques with a friendly smile (it’s the definition of being a BITCH)
Read the essential trilogy of gender awareness to avoid future relations~~~ trainwrecks
The Manipulated Man
The Anatomy of Female Power
The Predatory Female

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

You found MGTOW at the right time!
There are many brothers here that would envy you.

No alimony, child support, criminal record from false accusation, debts, still young and not wasted most of their life on women. Children weaponize to hate you to win court battles.

It is them who wish they found MGTOW earlier, you found it just at the right time!!!

Find it earlier you may give in to propaganda that MGTOW is a bunch of losers that cannot get laid. Find it now when you experience what most MGTOW said and see the truth.

No you do not find it too late. You found it at the right time. You have still so much going for you in the future!!!

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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