Wise Man Vs Stupid Feminist (video)

[coolsideofthepillowParticipant 190]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH414N_OAAA Heres another great example from fox news

[MaillesmithParticipant 64]

I like this guy.
I’m buying his book tomorrow.

[Tbowden1Participant 195]

He has a bunch of solid debates on these TV channels that are hilarious to watch… Unfortunately, they always seem to talk over him and cut the show short before he really gets to express anything. The other thing I notice is how EVERY SINGLE one of the women on these shows proves many of the points of this website. The one I always seem to notice most apparently is the idea that as soon as women begin to lose an argument, they immediately jump to an emotion jab rather than a logical argument. In one of his interviews, it ended with the woman saying “Wow Marc, it seems like you had issues with your mom or something.” Seriously…..? Last act of a desperate woman.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Dude said in another video on Boycotting Valentines that the Modern Independent Woman is a “Capitalist in the Boardroom and a Socialist in the Bedroom”.  Wow.   True Shiet.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Don’t buy his book.

Wait for this….

If you look on our homepage, you will see we (MGTOW) are “Boycotting Valentines Day” and taking upon ourselves to (un)officially rename it forever. Beginning in 2015…. FEB 14th is now International MGTOW Day. When a woman mentions it, its not Valentines’ Day anymore. There will be no more gifts for women. There will be no watching jewelry commercials. The days of women being so outrageously selfish and expecting s~~~ from men – to the point where they GET MAD when you buy her the wrong gift – are now f~~~ing over.

/video/boycott-valentines-day/

So a couple of months ago. I wrote to Marc Rudov about our plan/announcement and thanked him for his appearance on Fox News. The f~~~ing guy writes us back and tells us to remove “his” videos from our site. Says he is not “in that business anymore” and wants it stricken from the site….. as if he got a blowjob and changed his mind about his entire philosophy. “If you care about my feelings you will remove them”.

F~~~ I couldn’t stop laughing. Your FEELINGS? What are you Marcia Rudov now? Hey no problem! The clips actually belong to Fox News on which you were a GUEST , so if you want them removed, just go over to youtube (or write to Fox) to request a removal from the source and they will vanish from our site! (This is complete bulls~~~ of course because we archive every video here so it can never be deleted by anyone).

There was no reply back from him. Gee, I wonder why. Because if any of us MGTOW were in his place, the demanding bitches would all be crying in their martinis – which they had to pay for as Valentine’s gifts to themselves.

I have the emails to show you if you want to see them.
We’re going to publish a piece on this (and Marc Rudov) after Christmas.

If you’re gonna go on Fox News and ASK MEN TO BOYCOTT VALENTINE’S DAY…
DON’T F~~~ING BACK-PEDAL LIKE A SAD LITTLE COWARD WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO IT.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Oh Snap! Dude said in ANOTHER video that “Golddiggers will go away when GoldGivers go away.  Essentially…Men with ‘Paper need to stop giving hoes Meals, Money and Mansions for Pussy.

Classic Shiet.

 

 

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Key Master…I guess Dude is a bit of an Asshole and not quite the MGTOW Jedi Council type…And but I f~~~s with his one-liners.

The Classic “Praise the Message, Not the Messenger.” lesson for us all.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Don’t misunderstand. Loved his message. If I didn’t say anything, nobody (but we) would know about this.
And he is absolutely right. We even feature a few of his videos right here http://mgtow.com/videos

It was his slippery backhanded method of not liking that we AMPLIFIED his concept a thousand a times … in a more creative way than he ever did, and then he had the nerve to ask us to do what he said – if we care about his feeeeeeeeelings. Asking men to join him and do what he says, while then having a problem when men do what he says is the kind of s~~~ I would expect from a woman.

“Just because that’s what I wanted doesn’t mean that’s what I wanted”.
(sound familiar to any of you??)

Dude, we are not MRAs. We mean our s~~~. NO. F~~~ING. VALENTINE’S. DAY. End of story.

I will give the money to Haiti or Japan relief before I give it to some selfish c~~~ who thinks I OWE her a gift because it says Feb 14th on the calendar. Those t~~~s on Fox News are so selfish, they would rather get a gift out of obligation and resent, and let a child die in a ditch in Africa (where diamonds come from) than give up one of their precious valentine’s day gifts or extravagant meals.

And what’s their justification for that?
“Because it’s nice”.

It’s just nice!

You think Marc Rudov would have the SACK to say that on the air? You don’t need a sackless MRA to change the world because he will change his mind as soon as he gets a BJ, you just need a MGTOW to get the job done, and women like that would panic so hard they would cut to a jewelry commercial before you could finish saying it.

This is what happens when you open your mouth and you don’t mean what you say in front of MGTOW. You will get called out.

An MRA will say “No, but if you please lick my penis, then yes.”
But a MGTOW says “Finish sucking and get out. You’re welcome for the load.”

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Ha-Ha!

I Guess I already been celebrating International MGTOW Day.   I love it when I’m in a restaurant by myself on February 14 eating a f~~~in’ 16 ounce Steak and fully loaded Baked Potato and this Granny and Granddaddy muthaf~~~a who have  been together like 150 f~~~in’ years asks “Hey Buddy…Why you eating Valentine’s Day dinner by yourself?  Your Wife left you?”

I wanted to say “F~~~ You.  F~~~ Bitches. Suck My Nuts.”

Why not Eat my $80.00 Steak Bloody Rare and Solo???   Here-Here to International MGTOW Day!

[MaillesmithParticipant 64]

I guess that’s why I can’t find his book “Under the clitoral hood” anywhere? If anyone knows where I can get a copy, please let me know.

I did just buy one of his books today, and I’m going to buy at least one other (3 if I can find the one mentioned above) I’m a “love the art, not the artist” sort of person. I don’t give a rats ass about this man’s stance today, whether or not he is still speaking out against the feminization of society or if he’s now on his back, getting his dick licked. I Just Don’t Care.

He made some wonderful arguments, and showed, on national TV that women rarely debate rationally and will resort to personal attacks or demasculation when confronted with an argument they don’t agree with. I intend on citing him in at least one paper next semester, and maybe more in the future because he brings up some extremely valid points. I like his approach to the double standards in regards to financial responsibility, ladies night, and paternity suits.

And he does it better than the majority of posts I’ve read here on MTGOW. Only once in 5 “debates” did he resort to an insult in response to a woman’s attack, compared with every 2nd or 3rd post I read here that is littered with insults, over generalizations, discrediting without collaborating evidence and simple “hate mongering”. Personally, I would rather follow his example in TV interviews and in the seminars I watched/listened to, than conduct myself in any way similar to what I mostly read here on MTGOW.

I find it strange, Keymaster that you would rather insult the man for curtailing to opposition than view him as a fallen comrade, struck down by the onslaught he received for speaking out like he did. You immediately turned to character defamation, attacked his manliness, and speculated upon his motives, very much like the tactics you decry when they are employed by women. A double standard, one of the very things all of us on here abhor. I’m not trying to start a fight, just pointing out what I’ve observed while floating around the message boards the past few weeks.

I Don’t Care if he’s got his tail tucked between his legs today, his words will always exist and there will always be a way to find his books. And I will read them. And if he changed his tune because he got his dick wet – His words on national television were “Men today will do anything to avoid tantrums and tears, and they will do anything to get sex”

If this is a “fight” for a man’s right to control his own life and the gains from his labour, how about we turn it away from the “knitting circle” kind of posts that are so often made. Much like the gay pride parade, where their indiscretions hinder their movement of acceptance; this site’s blatant “woman bashing”** makes our viewpoint seem like the collective thoughts of a room full of p~~~ed off teenage boys. That is why I like Marc Rudov, he treated all the women he spoke to as equals, like he would speak to another man, even when they insulted him.

**There is no logical way you could dispute my use of the term “woman-bashing”, as there are many prominent insults and unfounded statistics and generalization throughout the posts, and it seems like needless brow beating of the inferiority of women. Please, don’t make me go cut and paste 50 quotes to illustrate my point.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@maillesmith

I find it strange, Keymaster that you would rather insult the man for curtailing to opposition than view him as a fallen comrade, struck down by the onslaught he received for speaking out like he did. You immediately turned to character defamation, attacked his manliness, and speculated upon his motives, very much like the tactics you decry when they are employed by women. A double standard, one of the very things all of us on here abhor. I’m not trying to start a fight, just pointing out what I’ve observed while floating around the message boards the past few weeks.

That’s a reasonable argument. But come with me for a second, and let’s take another look.

Integrity is the opposite of hypocrisy. Those who hold integrity as a value expect hypocrites to account for their discrepancies or alter their beliefs. If anyone is showing two sides of a coin here, it’s Mr. Rudov, himself. I had only good intentions, still remain consistent, and reached out thank him on behalf of our team. I said that already. You’ll notice I pointed out how his behavior is what I would expect from a woman.

This is no different than, say , David De Angelo (the PUA) who charges money for his seminars and made millions from subscribers preaching “game” etc… and then emails EVERYONE on his mailing list, announcing he is getting married and withdrew his entire philosophy. That would be like us waking up tomorrow, shutting down MGTOW.com, and leaving you nothing but a single note that says “Thanks very much, but MGTOW has left the building and this website was always run by Jezebel.”

What Marc Rudov should have done was THANKED us for the compliment, and for continuing to carry the torch for him if he didn’t want to anymore. He could be long out of the business already and have said: “Hey you’re welcome! I love what you’ve done with the place! Great job you guys! I’m humbled by impact I made! I hope every guy in America keeps his wallet closed next FEB! Keep going! And Happy International MGTOW Day! GREAT idea. Thrilled to see it.”.

But no. After we QUOTE “Good evening Marc…… and We wish to thank you for playing a significant role in the inspiration.”. His reply 09.07.2014 was as follows…..

MGTOW. (no hello or good morning)
You told me what you are going to do, but you didn’t ask how I feel about what you’re going to do. Why?
Marc H. Rudov
With the tag line:”Be Unique or Be Ignored”

Are you kidding me? Isn’t it already obvious how you feel about it? It’s all over the NEWS man. You were very clear on the air. It’s even in your own books that you charge money for. Have you read them? So why would anyone ask you how you feel about it? You worked your ass off to show exactly how you feel about it, and went on the air in a suit and tie. Regularly. Repeatedly.

And these guys wanna buy his books? I don’t even know where to begin with that.

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You can call what you see here “woman bashing” all you like, but if I make a TRUE statement, like: “The moon has no atmosphere”….. am I moon-bashing? Is that statement a negative? The moon really does have no atmosphere, so how is it anti-moon? Does that make me a moon-sogynist? If you want to bring out links, feel free.

But before you do… visit this one first:

/forums/topic/do-you-identify-as-a-misogynist/

There’s more, but that should clear it up for you and save you the trouble. In the future, if you have a problem when women (or even men) are called out here, confronted, their hypocrisy is exposed, or they are expected to be held accountable for their mistakes and for what they actually do, then this will be no place for you. Here’s another story I wrote out last night:

/forums/topic/coping-with-the-anger-and-hard-feelings-of-a-broken-marriage/

If you think that’s unreasonable, or “woman bashing”… then you had better leave.
Because we won’t ever apologize for that. Under any circumstances.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MaillesmithParticipant 64]

I will not defend Marc Rudov. I said before that I don’t care what he is doing these days, I am more interested in the voice he lent to the equality movement.

You approached this in an interesting manner:

What Marc Rudov should have done was THANKED us for the compliment, and for continuing to carry the torch for him if he didn’t want to anymore. He could be long out of the business already and have said: “Hey you’re welcome! I love what you’ve done with the place! Great job you guys! I’m humbled by impact I made! I hope every guy in America keeps his wallet closed next FEB! Keep going! And Happy International MGTOW Day! GREAT idea. Thrilled to see it.”.

You sound very entitled in this paragraph. You expect that Marc should feel that he owes you something, when in reality, he does not. Marc Rudov gets to choose when he is thankful, and who he thanks. It could be that he reviewed your forums and got the same impression as I do, and has no desire to be associated with a group of men who act like a bunch of p~~~ed off teenagers. Yes, there are many well written and informative posts here on MGTOW, I’ve read most posts made in the past 2 months; including the two you have linked me to, which I will discuss below. The MGTOW community does not view or treat women as peers, which is the very basis of Mr. Rudov’s philosophy. I don’t fault him for not wanting you to use his name, as you don’t represent his arguments, or not wanting you to use “his” videos to deliver a skewed message. I wouldn’t stand at the front of this army either.

You belittle Marc for choosing what he wants to put his face to, for choosing his own way, because he didn’t do what you wanted to. You insult him, and begin to make assumptions about me. You’ve begun to turn this into an emotional debate, using some of the very same tactics you decry women for. A primary example is your comparison of woman bashing to moon-bashing:

You can call what you see here “woman bashing” all you like, but if I make a TRUE statement, like: “The moon has no atmosphere”….. am I moon-bashing? Is that statement a negative? The moon really does have no atmosphere, so how is it anti-moon? Does that make me a moon-sogynist?

This simply is not a logical comparison. But if this is what you want to work with, I’ll run with it.

Our moon does not have any atmosphere, you are correct. This is a well known, proven and documented fact. I have absolutely no problem with you hating our moon because it doesn’t have an atmosphere, although that seem to be a silly reason to hate an object that that was pivotal to the evolution of life on earth. But our moon is only one moon. There are several moons in our solar system that have significant atmospheres, some of which have weather patterns like our own and the presence of life is highly speculated. This is also a proven, documented fact. So if you were to preach that “No moon has an atmosphere”, it could be argued that you are “moon-bashing”, which is no different than racism or the statement we all hate “There is no real men anymore”. You are being close-minded, and refuting any possibility that any moon could possibly be different from the one (or ones) you know, and encouraging others to do the same.

I have no problem with you hating women, none. I choose not to hate all women, but reserve my hate for a couple particular women. I don’t make generalizations about all women because of my personal experiences and express it in a hateful manner. Yes, there are a lot of gold-digging, manipulative and child-like women out there that must be avoided. But not every single woman in the world has some or all of the character traits you attribute to women, at most your generalizations are just a theory with evidence to support it, but is by no means fact. Simply because you bold them does not make it true.

Here’s another story I wrote out last night:
/forums/topic/coping-with-the-anger-and-hard-feelings-of-a-broken-marriage/
If you think that’s unreasonable, or “woman bashing”… then you had better leave.

I don’t consider that post as woman-bashing. Your anger and resentment was directed at individual women who you thought wronged you. I do however, find the manner you conducted yourself to be very unreasonable. You had every reasonable right to be angry that your mother didn’t receive her 12 white roses you ordered, and were entitled to have the situation corrected by the business. And when they offered you the refund, you still had to right to not find that adequate. But to curse at her, to stomp your foot and throw a tantrum because it wasn’t right and you wanted it fixed now. You could have handled it in a much more adult manner, and still achieved the same end result of 18 white roses for free plus a refund for your order. And then you gloat of your victory, as if you struck a mighty blow for men everywhere, when in reality you threw a tantrum.

I don’t want you to apologise. I don’t feel I’m entitled to an apology. But I will not leave the MGTOW forums. And there is quite literally no way you could prevent me from using it short of taking it offline. This is a place for men to be men, and to speak what they find true. And a place to call people out on hypocrisy, which I believe I’m pointing out to you now. What gives you the right to tell me to leave this place for men to speak freely because I have a different opinion than you?

I identify strongly with the original poster of that post. I’m a custodial single father of a 5 year old who I’ve had since he was 8 months old. I have not had a break from work in about 7 years, and currently I’m also enrolled in college again while working 35 hours a week as a welder. I rent from my lesbian mothers, to help facilitate childcare as some days I am out of the house for 18-20 hours. And when my day off comes around, I am emotionally squeezed from one in particular when I would simply like to have a movie day with my son rather than a day of money sucking outings. I deal with this every day. Guilt trips because I’m tired, and being told that I’m not doing enough as a father. Last night, I was nearly side swiped coming home by someone not paying attention, and somehow she argued that it was my fault “You have to be more careful” I was told. I deal with the emotional bulls~~~ every single day. And I hate it. I stand up for myself when I feel it’s needed, but also require an amicable relationship with my family so I don’t fight with them or insult them. There is no need for resentment in the household. But I live surrounded by women, to a greater degree than the vast majority of this site’s member base.

For the record, I do not expect my mother to treat me like a peer. I am, and will always be her son and not her peer. But a parental relationship differs greatly from any other formed through life. Would you want your child to feel entitled that you treat them as a peer?

I do not identify myself as a misogynist. I don’t hate women. I am leery of them like I would be walking by a group of large black men in the middle of the ‘hood, and in feel fully justified for being so because of experiences and observation. I do hate a couple women in particular, not because they are women, but because they have wronged me while in a position of trust. I hate a few men for the same reason. I still hold out hope that I can find a woman who will treat me like a peer, expect to be treated the same and build a satisfying relationship with her.
Don’t tell me what books I shouldn’t buy. – I will read what I want
Don’t tell me I need to leave because I don’t agree with you – You want me to go away because I don’t support your argument? Sounds a rather womanly response.
Don’t tell me what I should find unreasonable – I have my own views on how we should conduct ourselves, and it’s not behaviour that I wouldn’t tolerate from my 5 year old son.
Don’t f~~~ing insult me when I go my own way. – It’s my life and my mind.

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