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Yeah, I said in another thread, the last woman I asked out, I was just going to leave her my number, and she threatened to call the cops for harassment. Absolutely ridiculous. I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s and flirting with girls, grabbing their butts, dating. That s~~~ is long f~~~ing gone, dude. Play with the fire today if you want. You’ve been warned.
I struck up a chat with a woman over a drink once. Chance meeting. When it was time to go, she said “aren’t you going to ask me for my number?”.
“Aren’t you going to ask me for my number.”
“No, actually. When I want your number….. I will TELL you that I want it.”
Now she looks at me like I’m arrogant. But she’s too arrogant to just give it and say “please call me” when she wants. Instead she wants a man to ask — to fuel her already over-inflated ego, and put her in the position of being able to say no. Even when she wants to go out with you, she STILL wants to be the one to say “yes” or reject you.
“I was wondering if you would ask me to the prom.”
“Aren’t you going to ask me to dance?.”
“Aren’t you going to offer to buy me a drink?”
“I wonder when he’s going to propose.”The entire concept of “asking women” actually makes me sick.
FIRST RULE OF SALES: “If you give someone the chance to say NO….. they usually WILL”.
So only a f~~~ing retard ASKS women out.
• Is it OK if I call you some time?
• Can I buy you dinner some time?
• Can I maybe get your number?
• Will you marry me?Doing it that way is a virtue guarantee you just INCREASED your chances of hearing no (even though that’s what she says she wants) because it triggers in her head that you require her permission and it flicks a switch in her hindbrain that says “what do I want this guy for? I can do MUCH better than him”. Asking her for permission is how a woman gets her jollies. She wants to be able to tell herself – and her “friends” — “This guy asked me out”. That’s the only reason a woman wants you to ask her. To inflate her perceived value.
Even a “PUA” will tell you to “approach women”……. “approach women”……. “approach women”……. “approach women”…..”approach approach approach!!!”. Dude, you approach the edge of a cliff. You approach an alligator pit. You don’t “approach” a woman. She’s just a woman. Not a dentist’s chair.
Approaching women and “asking them out” is the dumbest thing a PUA ever invented. You can just look at her until she notices and then motion her over with a wave of your finger. BOOM! No “approaching” required. Now women are approaching YOU. Why don’t they ever teach that in PUA school?
“Come over here” and “put your number in my phone” is far more effective – and works better – than asking her.
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER *ASK” a woman out. TELL her she should go out with you. TELL her you’re going out and she should join. TELL her to give you her number. And the YOU decide if you want to go out with her, YOU do. She does not. You don’t need to ask a woman’s permission – for anything . Ever.
…. especially to buy her a drink, or pay attention to her. That’s not HER decision anyway!. It’s yours.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous3They like plausible deniability.
A girl can touch you all over, talk sexual, display interest and…then play aloof, talk about a boyfriend, and say she wasn’t flirting. It’s for the ego boost.
PUAs are morons because they think there is a technique to use and women operate rationally or will have consistent reactions to something. Women are like RNG from video games, they’re not scientific or logical or anything. You do something 50 times and it’ll lead to 20 different results, with your desired result happening 1/50 times. PUAs and other pussy beggars just keep doing the same thing because at some level it works to insulate the feeling of failure and since the result is random anyway there is no reason to bother working on your technique, outside of just doing anything to just create potential for any result to happen.
Women will always have the rape claim option afterwards as well. They use LMR like a skilled seasoned trial attorney preparing defenses for appeal, knowing full well that the only reason he’s mentioning something is for potential future use, and not the actual matter at hand while it’s being adjudicated. Most men can’t figure this stuff out, even with it being thrown in their face, because unfortunately either most men are too stupid or otherwise not capable of understanding just how clever females are in these matters.
Women are idiots in terms of academic or practical matters. They suck at every conceivable field of study, discipline, art, science or creative endeavor. However, they are extremely adept at manipulation of males and can see a solid 4-5 steps ahead at a subconscious level. This is the gift nature has given the female, who is weaker and mentally inept in every other facet. Nature also neglected to give women any compassion or empathy, as those are feelings that would stunt the ability to manipulate.
Once women go post-wall, the attention stops and many men won’t even talk to them at all. That is when they get really pushy and angry and demand that same attention they got before and feel entitled to. Nothing really changed except the frequency, their egos are still there, and if anything they’re more bitter and angry because they know they’ve aged out.
A young man is willing to put up with this nonsense for young women. But I cannot for my life understand why older men would ever deal with this for younger women, let alone other older women. I don’t think young men are even interested in old women under this arrangement.
Society claims men have no value. But there is nothing more worthless in this world than a post-wall woman. Anyone want to purchase a rotting carcass of a dead horse? Of course not, those things have zero value, and that is what a post-wall woman is.
It’s so funny at how, all these Feminist and even Females all cry for “EQUALITY!!!”
Yet at the same time, when it comes to having a Woman ask a guy out, all you’ll hear is crickets chirping and a look on their face like you got a second head growing out of your neck.
The reaction You’ll get if you ever engaged with a Female about “Asking a Man out” will certainly be faced with
Females : “it’s the Man’s job to ask a Female out, that’s how it’s always been”
Really?, well what happened to “Equality” and how we are all EQUAL in this day and age!.
I mean s~~~, I’m still waiting to see a 10,000,000 view youtube video of a Girl proposing to Her guy friend at a baseball field or at a romantic looking dinner. Then again, I also have a good chance of seeing the Loch Ness monster as well!.
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
I mean s~~~, I’m still waiting to see a 10,000,000 view youtube video of a Girl proposing to Her guy friend at a baseball field or at a romantic looking dinner. Then again, I also have a good chance of seeing the Loch Ness monster as well!.
Close enough. Older video, not sure if fake, entertaining watch nonetheless. People are saying she wanted to marry this guy after two weeks. She must have found her wallet.
You can just look at her until she notices
That sure works, fore.g, about 15 years ago I was at a work party being held in a hotel (company had rented us rooms for the night there to attend a conference the next day).
The nicest looking girl in there was about 19, fit body, pretty face, short red dress. Having drunk too much but still knowing what I was doing, I eyed her up. About 2 minutes before the party ended, she sends one of her friends over, convo went like this:
Her: Me and my friend (red dress) don’t like how you’re looking at us
Me: Well, you can either get the f~~~ out of my face or, alternatively you can just come to room 22 with me.
Her speechless at first, (as she kneels down beside me): what room did you say? (proceeds to write it on her arm).1 minute later, we leave the party and head back to our rooms, the girl who wrote my room number down is now on my arm, she had told the red dressed girl what I said also, red dress bitch comes up and grabs my other arm and says lets go to your room, I was too young to think: woo ho, 3some, so ditched the 1st one for red dressed one. Result.
Lessons I learnt: Make em notice that you noticed em but are not gonna chase em and aren’t really bothered if they are down with hooking up or not, use reverse pyschology and make em come to you, talk to them like the sluts most of em are (just like a pimp would talk to his hoes) and a lot of times, you will get a result, no need to ask them out.
Those were my younger, wilder days, I’m not saying men should waste their time with em nowadays though, given the mental instability/std’s/rape claims and possible pregnancies that can come about.
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I don't need pussy
I mean s~~~, I’m still waiting to see a 10,000,000 view youtube video of a Girl proposing to Her guy friend at a baseball field or at a romantic looking dinner. Then again, I also have a good chance of seeing the Loch Ness monster as well!.
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Close enough. Older video, not sure if fake, entertaining watch nonetheless. People are saying she wanted to marry this guy after two weeks. She must have found her wallet.
After he politely turned her down, she slapped his chest and threw the ring case at him. Why isn’t this video being used as evidence that she assaulted him?
She wants to be able to tell herself – and her “friends” — “This guy asked me out”. That’s the only reason a woman wants you to ask her. To inflate her perceived value.
Can confirm, holy s~~~, can confirm this so hard. There is absolutely no exaggeration in these sentences.
I don’t ask women out: I do things myself, and sometimes will invite them to come along (an “invitation” is very different than “asking”). Like, just recently, I was going to a concert; I said this to her, and then added “you should come with me.”
“You should come with me.” PERIOD. No f~~~ing question mark. There was not a f~~~ing question anywhere in my voice.
She fobs me off, and then goes around telling my friends how I “asked” her out (you goddamned lying c~~~). She gets none of my attention now. ZERO. And since she wasn’t interested in me, lied to me, lied about me, she should, rationally, welcome this change of events; but it bothers her, she notices it. She brought it up!
The last time I “asked” a woman out was in French, since I can form questions but don’t know how to say “you should/you ought” in French (“tu dois” seems a bit too strong and forceful).
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
After he politely turned her down, she slapped his chest and threw the ring case at him. Why isn’t this video being used as evidence that she assaulted him?
And there you have it. “Marry me… or else I will assault you and throw a screaming fit you asshole”. That’s what a marriage to a woman is. A fascist dictatorship of oppression.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“You should come with me.” PERIOD. No f~~~ing question mark. There was not a f~~~ing question anywhere in my voice.
RIGHT!!
You can just look at her until she notices
That sure works, fore.g, about 15 years ago
Let me tell you a little story about when I was 15. FIFTEEN. I didn’t know anything about girls or “how to score” or “how to get a girls attention” or any of that stuff. This just came NATURALLY to me.
I was at a summer church camp….. which is like a week away from your parents at this lodge in the woods with about 200 other kids. Almost exactly like in the 80s film “Dirty Dancing”. Just like that.
Anyway…… a girl caught my eye. She was gorgeous. I was not. I was stringy and cute but not a “stud”. And I had braces. I still remember this. I was across the big hall at a big picnic table of 12…and she was all the way on the other side at a big table too. So Im just looking at her. Im thinking she’s never gonna notice. She noticed! They ALWAYS notice because women LOOK AROUND to see who’s checking them out.
We make eye contact, and it’s just like a movie. To me, it was like nobody else existed in the room except us. And she’s looking at me too! All this chaos and noise and all these people and we are just looking at each other. I know it’s corny but just work with me……..
After dinner, there was some marshmallow roasting around a fire (or something) and it was getting dark. So I motioned her over to come and sit with me. She got up and she came over. We didn’t even say anything to each other. I NEVER EVEN KNEW HER NAME – and we kissed. It was so cool. We just made out.
Now. Nobody “taught” me this. It just was natural. But later on people started trying to tell me to “ask girls out” which seemed so staged and stupid. “Hey would you like to go out with me?”. To me, this was “dorky”. I imagined asking a girl out and feeling so stupid doing it. The natural way seemed so much better. “Come sit with me”. Or “let’s dance”. Or “Come on, let’s get an ice cream”. The idea of asking a girl “would you like to get an ice cream with me?” was so supplicating.
YEARS LATER……many of my experiences with women started out like that. I never “asked them out”. It was just more natural to just grab their hand at the movies, or just kiss the girl. The idea of “Formal courting” and “would you like to be my girlfriend?” never even came into play. It’s contrived.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Yeah, I hear ya bro, but what I am saying is, the “natural way” as in “hey, wanna f~~~?”, or grabbing her ass is going to land your ass in f~~~ing jail now. And if you try to just approach them gently and leave a number, that is going to get your ass burned, too. It’s over. Dating is f~~~ing destroyed. There is nothing left but prostitution for these whores, *by their own f~~~ing will*.
My natural method is similar to KM, yet rather different. I probably miss out on a lot of opportunities, but I rarely get rejected. I don’t ask a girl out, until I’m extremely confident that I already know the answer with almost 100% certainty, and I actually want to spend time alone with her. It’s more of a formality at that point then me putting up any risk.
There’s a woman at work that I find rather attractive. I’ve talked with her a few times, and I know some of her friends. I have not hidden the fact that I’m interested. I just haven’t had much of a chance to get to know her. It’s been weeks now. I do know that she has 2 daughters, and recently dated someone else at work. Neither are really positives. Will I have missed out on my opportunity? I don’t think of it that way. She may miss out on her opportunity. If a situation comes up where I can get to know her better, I will. If she asks me out, then I will. If nothing happens. I’m good with that.
Point is, you’re under no obligation. She’s no angel you need to put on a pedestal. For the author of the article’s situation, there’s no way I would have asked her for coffee. I don’t care how hot she is, not enough information.
Ok. Then do it.
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I usually knew just by the way a woman composes herself, I could spot a real c~~~ a mile away and avoided them like the plague!
I was just friendly and outgoing, even now females are still attracted to me in spite of my ever growing pessimism!
If a girl talks to you for more than a minute, the door is wide open! (ass wipes not withstanding).
I always moved them where I wanted them, metaphorically, and in bed! (((control)))
They’re like horses, walk away and they’ll follow! Let them KNOW you’ll disappear without a trace and THAT ALONE WILL GREATLY INCREASE YOUR VALUE TO THEM!
They need commandments, not questions!
I don’t wanna go on a PUA lecture! A door mat will ALWAYS be a DOOR MAT!I tried the NICE GUY ROUTE %^@$#$%%@%4
I ATE S~~~ EVERY TIME!
That’s all I have to say……Let them KNOW you’ll disappear without a trace and THAT ALONE WILL GREATLY INCREASE YOUR VALUE TO THEM!
Ever read Anna Karenina or watch the recent movie? The big, tall, sexy man in uniform, Count Vronsky, repeatedly accosts the married titular character, a married woman, and she gets so indignant, goes through the whole “he’s so vile but I can’t get him out of my head thing,” and then (in the movie), while he’s chasing her, and she’s “trying” to get him to f~~~ off, he straight up says “If you don’t want me, then I’m going to take a post in Siberia, and you’ll never see me again.”
And THEN all the sudden she stops her bulls~~~. It’s like magic.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
“Aren’t you going to ask me for my number.”
“No, actually. When I want your number….. I will TELL you that I want it.”
It is beyond twisted for a woman to ask you to ask her a question, so she can say, no.
That is a new level of messed up.
That isn’t playing ‘coy’. That is, “Dance monkey boy. Dance.”
I just came across this article to see if anything like this had happened, and this is the only article I found so far. It’s a great story and a great read for any PUAs and MRAs out there who think they’re safe from legal issues just because they avoid getting married.
And, manginas still wonder why I’m a virgin.
http://akkarbakkar.com/got-arrested-offering-buy-coffee-labeled-eve-teaser/
Whenever a woman complains about chivalry I just yell out ‘EQUALITY!” That gets their panties in a bunch every time.
Wow dude, where do you live? You know this happened in India and is likely more of a factor of the caste system than feminism, right?
I don’t know where you live, but I can tell you here in Seattle, practically the epicenter of feminism and matriarchy, nobody gets arrested just for asking women out. We get laughed at, shamed, and shunned, but never arrested.
I could be wrong, but if so, please provide a credible link.
I know a number of current and former police and I can assure you, they’re not arresting anyone for asking someone out for coffee.
I also know a number of PUAs, have even counted myself among them to some degree(more like I just pick and choose techniques that are helpful for me) and I’ve never heard of any of them being arrested just for asking someone out. And some of them regularly use way bolder approaches than this guy.
I understand where you’re coming from, but anywhere outside of India, middle east, and similar repressed cultures, this isn’t an issue.
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
Yeah, I said in another thread, the last woman I asked out, I was just going to leave her my number, and she threatened to call the cops for harassment. Absolutely ridiculous. I remember growing up in the 80s and 90s and flirting with girls, grabbing their butts, dating. That s~~~ is long f~~~ing gone, dude. Play with the fire today if you want. You’ve been warned.
I’m a 90s kid, so I never experienced that first hand, but I did always see it in a bunch of old 80s movies. Sometimes I think I wish I lived in that generation, but then again, I might’ve ended up married by now seeing as I used to be a white knight when I was younger. But yeah, if a guy even so much as stares at a woman for too long now, they’ll just yell “HARASSMENT!” And think nothing of it.
They like plausible deniability.
A girl can touch you all over, talk sexual, display interest and…then play aloof, talk about a boyfriend, and say she wasn’t flirting. It’s for the ego boost.
PUAs are morons because they think there is a technique to use and women operate rationally or will have consistent reactions to something. Women are like RNG from video games, they’re not scientific or logical or anything. You do something 50 times and it’ll lead to 20 different results, with your desired result happening 1/50 times. PUAs and other pussy beggars just keep doing the same thing because at some level it works to insulate the feeling of failure and since the result is random anyway there is no reason to bother working on your technique, outside of just doing anything to just create potential for any result to happen.
Women will always have the rape claim option afterwards as well. They use LMR like a skilled seasoned trial attorney preparing defenses for appeal, knowing full well that the only reason he’s mentioning something is for potential future use, and not the actual matter at hand while it’s being adjudicated. Most men can’t figure this stuff out, even with it being thrown in their face, because unfortunately either most men are too stupid or otherwise not capable of understanding just how clever females are in these matters.
Women are idiots in terms of academic or practical matters. They suck at every conceivable field of study, discipline, art, science or creative endeavor. However, they are extremely adept at manipulation of males and can see a solid 4-5 steps ahead at a subconscious level. This is the gift nature has given the female, who is weaker and mentally inept in every other facet. Nature also neglected to give women any compassion or empathy, as those are feelings that would stunt the ability to manipulate.
Once women go post-wall, the attention stops and many men won’t even talk to them at all. That is when they get really pushy and angry and demand that same attention they got before and feel entitled to. Nothing really changed except the frequency, their egos are still there, and if anything they’re more bitter and angry because they know they’ve aged out.
A young man is willing to put up with this nonsense for young women. But I cannot for my life understand why older men would ever deal with this for younger women, let alone other older women. I don’t think young men are even interested in old women under this arrangement.
Society claims men have no value. But there is nothing more worthless in this world than a post-wall woman. Anyone want to purchase a rotting carcass of a dead horse? Of course not, those things have zero value, and that is what a post-wall woman is.
Yep, PUAs are still manginas imo. They’re chasing pussy like it’s a game, when in fact, they’re literally sticking their dicks or attempting to stick their dicks in a snake infested pit. Not knowing which one will strike after the other. No thanks, I’m staying a virgin for life. And some MGTOWs in here think only western women are like that, but Chinese and other Asian women are just as bad as western women.
I struck up a chat with a woman over a drink once. Chance meeting. When it was time to go, she said “aren’t you going to ask me for my number?”.
“Aren’t you going to ask me for my number.”
“No, actually. When I want your number….. I will TELL you that I want it.”
Now she looks at me like I’m arrogant. But she’s too arrogant to just give it and say “please call me” when she wants. Instead she wants a man to ask — to fuel her already over-inflated ego, and put her in the position of being able to say no. Even when she wants to go out with you, she STILL wants to be the one to say “yes” or reject you.
“I was wondering if you would ask me to the prom.”
“Aren’t you going to ask me to dance?.”
“Aren’t you going to offer to buy me a drink?”
“I wonder when he’s going to propose.”The entire concept of “asking women” actually makes me sick.
FIRST RULE OF SALES: “If you give someone the chance to say NO….. they usually WILL”.
So only a f~~~ing retard ASKS women out.
• Is it OK if I call you some time?
• Can I buy you dinner some time?
• Can I maybe get your number?
• Will you marry me?Doing it that way is a virtue guarantee you just INCREASED your chances of hearing no (even though that’s what she says she wants) because it triggers in her head that you require her permission and it flicks a switch in her hindbrain that says “what do I want this guy for? I can do MUCH better than him”. Asking her for permission is how a woman gets her jollies. She wants to be able to tell herself – and her “friends” — “This guy asked me out”. That’s the only reason a woman wants you to ask her. To inflate her perceived value.
Even a “PUA” will tell you to “approach women”……. “approach women”……. “approach women”……. “approach women”…..”approach approach approach!!!”. Dude, you approach the edge of a cliff. You approach an alligator pit. You don’t “approach” a woman. She’s just a woman. Not a dentist’s chair.
Approaching women and “asking them out” is the dumbest thing a PUA ever invented. You can just look at her until she notices and then motion her over with a wave of your finger. BOOM! No “approaching” required. Now women are approaching YOU. Why don’t they ever teach that in PUA school?
“Come over here” and “put your number in my phone” is far more effective – and works better – than asking her.
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NEVER, NEVER, NEVER *ASK” a woman out. TELL her she should go out with you. TELL her you’re going out and she should join. TELL her to give you her number. And the YOU decide if you want to go out with her, YOU do. She does not. You don’t need to ask a woman’s permission – for anything . Ever.
…. especially to buy her a drink, or pay attention to her. That’s not HER decision anyway!. It’s yours.
And when they finally ask me out, I’ll just ignore them and say “no thanks!” That’ll be the best moment ever to see the look on their face as they rage. Haha.
I mean s~~~, I’m still waiting to see a 10,000,000 view youtube video of a Girl proposing to Her guy friend at a baseball field or at a romantic looking dinner. Then again, I also have a good chance of seeing the Loch Ness monster as well!.
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Close enough. Older video, not sure if fake, entertaining watch nonetheless. People are saying she wanted to marry this guy after two weeks. She must have found her wallet.
That was one of the best videos ever. I’m pretty sure it’s real given how mad the woman was. Apparently she can propose like a man, but can’t handle rejection like a man.
It’s so funny at how, all these Feminist and even Females all cry for “EQUALITY!!!”
Yet at the same time, when it comes to having a Woman ask a guy out, all you’ll hear is crickets chirping and a look on their face like you got a second head growing out of your neck.
The reaction You’ll get if you ever engaged with a Female about “Asking a Man out” will certainly be faced with
Females : “it’s the Man’s job to ask a Female out, that’s how it’s always been”
Really?, well what happened to “Equality” and how we are all EQUAL in this day and age!.
I mean s~~~, I’m still waiting to see a 10,000,000 view youtube video of a Girl proposing to Her guy friend at a baseball field or at a romantic looking dinner. Then again, I also have a good chance of seeing the Loch Ness monster as well!.
I’m pretty sure only cougars would even dare ask a guy out, or buy him a drink. Even if younger women and cougars would do that, they still expect you to worship them like they’re some goddess. And, then there’s potential for calling rape. So I’m not even going to accept what they get me or ask me. Not to mention cougars only date because they know if they don’t trap a guy into marriage now, they’ll never have kids. If that happens, it’ll just make’em a bitter old ugly feminist.
You can just look at her until she notices
That sure works, fore.g, about 15 years ago I was at a work party being held in a hotel (company had rented us rooms for the night there to attend a conference the next day).
The nicest looking girl in there was about 19, fit body, pretty face, short red dress. Having drunk too much but still knowing what I was doing, I eyed her up. About 2 minutes before the party ended, she sends one of her friends over, convo went like this:
Her: Me and my friend (red dress) don’t like how you’re looking at us
Me: Well, you can either get the f~~~ out of my face or, alternatively you can just come to room 22 with me.
Her speechless at first, (as she kneels down beside me): what room did you say? (proceeds to write it on her arm).1 minute later, we leave the party and head back to our rooms, the girl who wrote my room number down is now on my arm, she had told the red dressed girl what I said also, red dress bitch comes up and grabs my other arm and says lets go to your room, I was too young to think: woo ho, 3some, so ditched the 1st one for red dressed one. Result.
Lessons I learnt: Make em notice that you noticed em but are not gonna chase em and aren’t really bothered if they are down with hooking up or not, use reverse pyschology and make em come to you, talk to them like the sluts most of em are (just like a pimp would talk to his hoes) and a lot of times, you will get a result, no need to ask them out.
Those were my younger, wilder days, I’m not saying men should waste their time with em nowadays though, given the mental instability/std’s/rape claims and possible pregnancies that can come about.
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Yeah, I’ve noticed how women respond nicely to you if you treat them like s~~~ or act like you don’t give a f~~~. But, women are too crazy to even deal with even if they do treat you with respect. Because once you’ve got bored with your relationship, and try to breakup with them, they’ll just either say “no, you can’t break with me!” Or at the very least go apes~~~ on you.
Whenever a woman complains about chivalry I just yell out 'EQUALITY!" That gets their panties in a bunch every time.
@keymaster, I humbly suggest that we put this story somewhere accesible (Archives, I suppose)
This story is one of those extreme cases and must be taken as a SEVERE warning to other men out there.
Its not the getting arrested that worries me but when your FAMILY is involve then its a completely different case
Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.
I am just saying the whole “traditional first date” is the thing that will get you friend zoned quicker than anything else.
Given how self-centered women have become, tipping the waitress might get your friend zoned, because you date is jealous of even that much attention, or money, you are giving to another woman.
Better to risk friend zone than jail time.
Okay well, then in that case why even go to dinner with her? I would rather not take either. I am just saying again, that if you want to get laid then you can’t take it in a way that involves you risking the friend zone.
Yeah, I hear ya bro, but what I am saying is, the “natural way” as in “hey, wanna f~~~?”, or grabbing her ass is going to land your ass in f~~~ing jail now. And if you try to just approach them gently and leave a number, that is going to get your ass burned, too. It’s over. Dating is f~~~ing destroyed. There is nothing left but prostitution for these whores, *by their own f~~~ing will*.
I understand and know what you are saying. I am also saying that while women have gotten what they have demanded vocally, men that do cave to their demands certainly are not getting laid. So the way I see it is you (to quote a movie) “Go full monty or don’t go at all”.
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