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Reminds me of something I read in the newspaper today: A misogynist is a man who hates women nearly as much as they hate each other…
So much this.. It’s a classic example of “guilty until proven innocent”. In a woman’s mind, there is something wrong with you if…
You’re NOT married.
You’re NOT on Facebook.
You’re NOT trying to follow their good plantation guidelines.
What feminism ISN’T doing instead of the damage it IS doing.
Proving you’re not a rapist, since you have a penis.
Yes that’s it @exsliventxs guilty until proven innocent. That’s the best way to say it!
Its to the point where if I hear a question like “why are you NOT” I just want to ask her: “what kind of question is that? why am I NOT?”
It’s not even English, really. Imagine asking Why are you not naked? What are you not licking my b~~~~? Why are you not shutting the f~~~ up? The questions are all preposterous just in the way they are posed. “why don’t you trust women” is very intrusive and she’s making a presumption as if she’s in your head.
You go to a restaurant, they hand you a menu, and you say “nah, I don’t want pizza today…”,…
wouldn’t it be WIERD for the other person to say ” why don’t you like pizza?”It doesn’t mean I don’t like pizza. I just don’t WANT it – today.
Explaining why you’re not on Facebook… what a weird question.Ive noticed lately this video campaign on Youtube, where feminists make videos about what feminist is NOT about. Discussing “misconceptions of feminism”. WTF kind of sales pitch is that? When you go to a movie, do you discuss with your friends what its’ NOT about? Like when a religious bible thumper hounds you and says “prove there is no God”. What a skewed way of thinking.
That’s like saying “PROVE there is no mouse on Mars”.
It’s madness.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“Why don’t you trust women”?
How much time you got.
Hi everybody, joined a long time ago and amazed what this place has become. Awestruck.
Women ask me, “why aren’t you married?” with the same attitude as a landlord talking to a deadbeat tenant, “why aren’t you paying the rent?”. That is, “why have you not surrendered what you OWE?”.
My answer: I don’t owe marriage to anyone, and I haven’t met anyone who otherwise inspires me to provide it…
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Of course, we all know one reason people ask us why we’re not married, don’t we?
I had that happen to me in one course I taught. During a work session in one of my lectures, one twerp asked me that question. I looked at him and said: “If that’s a marriage proposal, I’ll have to disappoint you. You’re not my type.” The kid turned so red he could have hired himself out as a traffic light. The matter never came up again for some strange reason…..
Why don’t I trust women?….. Why should I trust a woman?
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
Why I don’t trust women same reason you would not trust Jeff the Killer, as he would skin you alive and murder you in a fashion that cannot be expressed in the English language.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
I had to many universal experiences with women is the reason I can’t trust them. I don’t even trust my mothers intentions with me because it seems like she in unconsciously trying to hurt me with wanting me children and getting married. I’m glad I had that vasectomy. I would never tell her either.
I trust my mom, I trust my best friends wife. My girlfriend is gaining it, slowly. Those are the only women who have showed me time and again that they have my best interest in mind. All the rest of them can f~~~ off. I never trusted women, ever. I was raised in a single mother home with two sisters and one brother. I went to Catholic school as a young child and the nuns beat my trust of women, and religion right out of me. My grandmother was a raving bitch, and my sisters were the conniving snots that girls are growing up. I was used as a jealousy bomb in high school by a girl, and spent a few weeks recovering from it. I still don’t know how I let my guard down enough to get married to my ex.
I do not engage with the women I work with, I keep it professional at all times. I rarely socialize with them after work unless it is a large event. I work in education and it is a minefield of epic proportions. Not only the female students, but the adults, and I cannot after 20 years figure out who is worse, the young and crazy or the old and spiteful. I am a retired AF Sergeant, Spec Ops for 17 years, I think that way, and act that way. It rubs a lot of bitches the wrong way in this feminine dominated world.
My girlfriend, my mom, and my buddies wife don’t like or trust women, why should I? I have seen nothing honorable or a shred of integrity in any but a few of them. The worst man is more worthy of my trust than the best of most woman, and that will never change
I trust my mom, I trust my best friends wife. My girlfriend is gaining it, slowly. Those are the only women who have showed me time and again that they have my best interest in mind. All the rest of them can f~~~ off. I never trusted women, ever.
You can’t say you never trust women ever, because in your first sentence you disprove this…
Also, your mom is financially invested in you. So she will always care, she raised you. She’s put TONS of time.
Your best friend’s wife is not financially entangled to you, the moment money becomes an issue all bets are off, because they will no longer have your interests at heart.
Your GF should start off with the same stock benefit everyone gets, if you go through life being constantly suspicious of everyone it’ll drive you mad.
You’re not f~~~ing your best friend’s wife (I hope not) so she has even less reason to manipulate you.
Your GF on the other hand… oh f~~~ man.. your GF is a totally different creature than your mom and best friend’s wife relatively speaking.
This is because women can pick up and toss morals at the tip of a hat, much easier than men, they’re partially psychotic.
My mom understands why I don’t want to get married, this is only because SHE’s invested so much of HER time and MONEY, she wants to see me happy, because if some bitch makes me miserable that means she’s wasted HER resources.
Let another bitch try to f~~~ with another woman’s resources and effort, see what happens. Your mom will destroy that bitch if she doesn’t like her.
Now this is where things can get cloudy, because depending on what kind of mom and ass kissing GF you have, things can go awry. Women are masters at manipulation after all.
However… TLDR… your GF should never have 100% of your trust, EVER, NEVER EVER at any point. She is not the same socioeconomic and potential social contracting position as your mother or your best friend’s wife. (Who probably wants to f~~~ you.)
Keep your guard up.
Yes, I can say I never trust women, two women out of 3.9 billion is negligible as a number, and why would I be f~~~ing my best friends wife? I trust most of my male friends and I am not f~~~ing them either. I didn’t ask for a psych eval of my statement and sorry I generalized in my first sentence, I’ll fix it for you: I distrust all but two (2) women on earth, could be three (3) eventually but not at the moment. That better?
My mothers financial dedication ended when I was 14 and I worked to help with rent.
I am 54 years old, I got a great grasp on how f~~~ing looney tunes bitches are, been all over the world and met them myself. I was married to a pyscho, trust me I got the memo on insane hamster motivation.
Next time, don’t start of by calling me a liar because of a over simplified statement. I am glad your Mom is good to you, mine was a c~~~ when I was young but she made it up to me later in life. My best friend, his wife and their son are family to me, and to even insinuate that I lack integrity or honor, and would even think of f~~~ing her is enough to throw punches. I am a MAN, not ruled by my c~~~.
My GF and I have separate accounts, different banks, I’m no idiot. Thanks for the concern, thanks for the advice
Sarge,
having been around the world as you have, I’d be interested reading your posts in thread titled ‘most irrational thing a woman has ever said to you’… (For me, the most volatile/unstable one was Italian, and he’s responsible for the first post on that thread, but I have no experience dating outside the US.)Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
“Why are you NOT married?” or “why dont you have a girlfriend?”
My usual answer is either:
“Why should I do something dumb like that”
OR
“Why dont you just ask me to Jump off a Cliff while you’re at it”
The More relaxed and calm you are – the more effective those answers will sound.
Once you get to the ‘Not caring about who is asking you‘ Stage. Thats when you truly get that feeling of freedom.
Anyone who has any experience with women or has done any dating over an extended period of time knows why you can’t trust women. As stated in one of the responses even women don’t trust other women. Women are deceitful, manipulative, and practice emotional and mental blackmail. They play men against each other. They also are only interested in men for what it can benefit them. They look at men as and relationships as a business transaction. If that is how we are looked at by women you think we should trust them?
Next time, don’t start of by calling me a liar because of a over simplified statement. I am glad your Mom is good to you, mine was a c~~~ when I was young but she made it up to me later in life. My best friend, his wife and their son are family to me, and to even insinuate that I lack integrity or honor, and would even think of f~~~ing her is enough to throw punches. I am a MAN, not ruled by my c~~~. My GF and I have separate accounts, different banks, I’m no idiot. Thanks for the concern, thanks for the advice
it’s starting to become a common theme in the manosphere and MGTOW members to attack other members who show care or love to the other sex, there is even a few attacks here on the forum toward MGOTWers who aren’t from western nations and have difference ideology and views. I’ve been MGTOW for too long to realize hating the other sex completely is not the way to go, and a very unrealistic approach that goes against human nature.
I remember when I was working as a contractor in UAE I became friends a local project supervisor there and we started talking on an evening dinner one day about marriage and how it’s a failing institution.
he proceeded to point out that it is indeed a failing institution but only in western countries and territories which are under western influence and culture.
then he mentioned a common saying in the Arab and Muslim world that goes by that “a women surrenders her power to her husband and invest it in the form of obeying and serving, only for her to gain this power back 10 fold from her children, and the power she’ll have over them”
it kind of made perfect sense for me, a women would always love her son more than her husband, and when I mentioned that to him “my arab friend” he gave me the look of “no s~~~ sherlock” thats why we give our daughters for marriage young so they can have children to support them and be psychologically stable.
we have this irrational arrogance here in the west to ignore all the wisdom in the world and pretend to create our own way of living. oblivious to the fact that our civilization as humans only was able to be created under these ancient rules of gender roles.
anyway felt to share this. although my parents are divorced for like 20 years now. I still love my mom and my 2 younger sisters dearly and will continue to love them. . . . . but marriage and relationship is out of question.
Yes, I can say I never trust women, two women out of 3.9 billion is negligible as a number, and why would I be f~~~ing my best friends wife? I trust most of my male friends and I am not f~~~ing them either. I didn’t ask for a psych eval of my statement and sorry I generalized in my first sentence, I’ll fix it for you: I distrust all but two (2) women on earth, could be three (3) eventually but not at the moment. That better? My mothers financial dedication ended when I was 14 and I worked to help with rent. I am 54 years old, I got a great grasp on how f~~~ing looney tunes bitches are, been all over the world and met them myself. I was married to a pyscho, trust me I got the memo on insane hamster motivation. Next time, don’t start of by calling me a liar because of a over simplified statement. I am glad your Mom is good to you, mine was a c~~~ when I was young but she made it up to me later in life. My best friend, his wife and their son are family to me, and to even insinuate that I lack integrity or honor, and would even think of f~~~ing her is enough to throw punches. I am a MAN, not ruled by my c~~~. My GF and I have separate accounts, different banks, I’m no idiot. Thanks for the concern, thanks for the advice
Hmm – this is a very emotional way for a man to react. I thought the one major thing that separates us from women is that we can have logical discussions without quickly resorting to anger and emotional responses?
Calm down friend – the only intent this man had was to give you pro advice from personal experience. To get that mad to the point where you even bring up throwing punches is borderline psychotic on it’s own to say the least. Whatever bitterness you have that was triggered by any of his comments is something you should personally deal with immediately because apparently it is still taking quite a profound toll on your psyche. If you are not ready to accept the potential “tough love” you should know to expect from a hardened MGTOW, perhaps you should come back at a later date.
Anonymous1it’s starting to become a common theme in the manosphere and MGTOW members to attack other members who show care or love to the other sex, there is even a few attacks here on the forum toward MGOTWers who aren’t from western nations and have difference ideology and views.
That’s one way to see it. The way I see this is that mgtow is becoming intolerant with white knighting. Women have too much leverage already. The men of the manosphere shouldn’t be restraint to criticize women. You can feel love for woman, and she can use that against you, and men will point that out.
Usually men from other “cultures” that come to the manosphere to show “care and love” for the opposite sex, come with the NAWALT argument. And that is starting to become annoying. If these people think so highly of women, Paul Elam and MRA’s will receive them with open arms. MGTOW see women for what they are based on their ACTIONs, not FEELINGs.
I’ve been MGTOW for too long to realize hating the other sex completely is not the way to go, and a very unrealistic approach that goes against human nature.
I may not a mgtow for as long as you, but I been through enough emotional s~~~ to realize that anger is a natural emotion when faced with injustice, and there is no one that can be more unfair and vicious that women. Besides, how can you differentiate hate from indifference? In fact, the only ones that showed “hate” towards women, at least on this site, were trolls. Which were more likely to be women, if you take in consideration the cartoony way they try to pass as mgtows. We don’t need to hate the opposite sex, they already hate each other enough.
he proceeded to point out that it is indeed a failing institution but only in western countries and territories which are under western influence and culture.
Bulls~~~. How about the herbivore men in Japan? How about the leftover women in China? Marriage is failing in western society and western influenced society because marriage is a failed institution in itself. The places where marriage still works are underdeveloped countries and regions, and even there this doesn’t bode well for MEN. Should we downgrade our technological advances so marriage can work?
then he mentioned a common saying in the Arab and Muslim world that goes by that “a women surrenders her power to her husband and invest it in the form of obeying and serving, only for her to gain this power back 10 fold from her children, and the power she’ll have over them”
Showing that women are a negative investment no matter how you look at it. And by the way, the Arab and Muslim world are not known for their edge on technology, are they?
thats why we marry our daughters young so they can have children to support them and be psychologically stable.
So, in a nutshell, women are parasites. Since they always need somebody else to support them. And that’s what we should expect from good women?
we have this irrational arrogance here in the west to ignore all the wisdom in the world and pretend to create our own way of living. oblivious to the fact that our civilization as humans only was able to be created under these ancient rules of gender roles.
And people like you have this irrational arrogance that going back to the old ways would solve the gender relation problems. The ancient rules of gender roles worked in pre-industrial societies, but they don’t work on digital age. Not for men, at least. If you want to go back to that, feel free to leave to the mountains.
Thank you BadKan for proving my point. A refute to a response with logic rather than threatening to throw fists. This is how men act. Very well said as well!
That’s one way to see it. The way I see this is that mgtow is becoming intolerant with white knighting. Women have too much leverage already. The men of the manosphere shouldn’t be restraint to criticize women. You can feel love for woman, and she can use that against you, and men will point that out. Usually men from other “cultures” that come to the manosphere to show “care and love” for the opposite sex, come with the NAWALT argument. And that is starting to become annoying. If these people think so highly of women, Paul Elam and MRA’s will receive them with open arms. MGTOW see women for what they are based on their ACTIONs, not FEELINGs.
not really I’m talking about guys who share their prospective and ideology peacefully, and it’s usually in line with MGTOW concept. but are being attacked cuz of their slight diversity.I may not a mgtow for as long as you, but I been through enough emotional s~~~ to realize that anger is a natural emotion when faced with injustice, and there is no one that can be more unfair and vicious that women.
lets face it, you give half the population special privilege and pink slips to do whatever they want, guess what injustice will happen and those with power will abuse the privilege being men and women or even children. it’s human nature! the blame is why this is continuing to happen?
Bulls~~~. How about the herbivore men in Japan?
so Japan is not under the influence of the western culture?! seriously where do you get your information, we’re practically broadcasting our culture to asia from Japan and south Korea. why do you think we have zillion amounts of military bases there, herbivore men are the product of the equality crab that we exported to the Japanese. liberating women etc. their MGTOW with no one consent, it came naturally to them as it came naturally to us, but in a different form and shape.
How about the leftover women in China?
left over women in China proves the point of marriage even further, and pushes women to get married and have kids even more. I fail to see ur point.
Showing that women are a negative investment no matter how you look at it. And by the way, the Arab and Muslim world are not known for their edge on technology, are they?
yes they are! again where have you been living, women relied on men for resource since the beginning of time, given they raise children, nurture and serve their men!. seems to me you’ve overdosed by feminism to believe that men and women are actually equals.
yes Arabs and Muslims are not known for their technological edge but their numbers among cooperations and universities are increasing in key positions, coincidence? don’t think so. imagine if their talent is being harvested back home in their countries. would we still have the this edge?. after all they were at the peak of civilization when we were slaughtering each other in the dark ages.
So, in a nutshell, women are parasites. Since they always need somebody else to support them. And that’s what we should expect from good women?
yes if you look at it that way. but parasites do not have reproductive and nurturing values.
And people like you have this irrational arrogance that going back to the old ways would solve the gender relation problems. The ancient rules of gender roles worked in pre-industrial societies, but they don’t work on digital age. Not for men, at least. If you want to go back to that, feel free to leave to the mountains.
shaming techniques. nice!. could’ve mistaken this for a feminist discussion, it is irrational since it will lead to the destruction of our civilization. after all lets face it, the only reason we keep this grinder going is with immigration. like japan we will grow too old one day and if there is no younger newer generation to work and support the system we live in, it will collapse. and since we’re not gonna get married and have Kids. guess who will lead the world. definitely one of those countries that have the gender roles going healthy.
see this is exactly the arrogance I am talking about, industrial, digital age etc. what makes you think that former civilization weren’t more advanced that us. there is alot we don’t know. and alot of technologies that were applied hundreds of years ago we do not understand. why do you think they collapsed?
I really don’t understand why u reply has the “come at me bro!” attitude despite the fact that we share the same concept. yes it doesn’t work for men anymore thats why I’m MGTOW and against marriage in this time and age. and no I won’t go live in the mountains, but I go off-roading from time to time and camp there for days at a time to keep the survival skills sharp.
on one last note. the beauty of MGTOW is that everyone has his own opinion of going their own way. it mean independent of thought, what your implying is that there is a rigged concept of MGTOW that if anyone differ from then their not MGTOW. while in fact if one here would disagree with all what you guys say and just leave this whole thing then he is truly A MAN GOING HIS OWN WAY! granted he despise the gynocentric system we live in and the current marriage institute.
the beauty of MGTOW is that everyone has his own opinion of going their own way. it mean independent of thought, what your implying is that there is a rigged concept of MGTOW that if anyone differ from then their not MGTOW. while in fact if one here would disagree with all what you guys say and just leave this whole thing then he is truly A MAN GOING HIS OWN WAY! granted he despise the gynocentric system we live in and the current marriage institute.
this seriously cought my attention :). well said on all the replies, I don’t agree with them all but hey! thats what make MGTOW a great place since we all come from different walks in life:)
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