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I’m here because I’m DONE caring what the sum total of society thinks. Even in this forum, I’m not here to make friends. Meeting the men I talk to almost every day is not encouraged, so their opinions and advice are merely undiluted truth. A thing that you won’t ever have from the media. I don’t care for things to be made fair again, that’s a whiner’s complaint when they lose.
The game has been rigged since my dad’s generation or before, just because they made it through as a married couple doesn’t mean that he didn’t spend years of his life paying for things he couldn’t have been bothered to buy were it not for her desires… and they are well off and retired. Overall, this forum and it’s founder don’t answer to any member who wants it to meet certain criteria. If you think you can do better then there’s a whole wide internet out there for you to build your own site, forums, and member base.
No is a complete answer. No, I will not jump through your hoops for pussy, a relationship, or even an interview. And no, I most definitely will not step onto your plantation; even to check out the great accommodations you put in for your slaves.
MRA hates MGTOW because MRA wants to modify interactions between the sexes and MGTOW disregards their need for interaction with a dismissive “I’m just fine over here. You are a strong and independent woman, so you do you honey.” Any negativity read into it is either coming from your perspective or individual menbers here who are still suffering from some sort of rage.I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Anonymous42I love the smell of burning clams in the morning!
Now, what if the grapes REALLY ARE sour.
What if a “woman” is REALLY a “whore”?
Here is one telling you that she is.What if a “woman” is REALLY a “bitch”?
Here is one telling you that she is.What if a “woman” is REALLY a “slut” and holds a sign above her head while marching nearly naked down the street after inking herself with the word?
Do you mind if we talk about it?
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[quote=127731]potentially weakening our cause.
If I were to curtail my COLORFUL language, this is all you’d hear: <- – – – – – – – – – – – – – ->
MGTOW is not a legal struggle, therefore there is no “cause” or “complaint”, only “the solution”. My “cause” is to rise everyday and continue my life in a society that only has contempt for my very existence, as for “main stream” media, I had the ability to watch “all channels all the time” and station to station satellite transmissions, the entire “mainstream” media, has become an international sewer discharge of endless feminist gynocentric programming, with streaming liberal propaganda, My satellite LNB’s now sent their signals to dead end coaxial cables for more than a decade. I’ve removed the filthy influence of “mainstream” media, by not drinking its fecal coliform saturated waters! I’ve turned my back on society and drove away, but I keep one eye in the rear view mirror only to maintain that vanishing point distance, all in an effort to not let their cesspool metropolis get their filthy hands on me!
MRA’s ??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Since when is it a man’s “right” to negotiate with terrorists over his perishing freedoms???
The HIVE will never surrender it’s gains over the spirit of men, nor confess their responsible for all the misery and suffering that has become “EXPECTED” of men!
Society has become “engulfed” in the flames of gynocentric destruction! “Mainstream” media is the flaming river of gasoline feeding the fire!
Care to take a dip? Be my f~~~ing guest!!!
An empty “broken” chair would represent me best!!!Hey Casper,
This guy is the answer to the thread topic. We assumed he was a rational human being and tried to converse with him. I avoided using language since he doesn’t like it and answered his claims politely, but this is what we get. I simply disagree with him and say he doesn’t seem like a mghow, and then he accuses me/us of being angry and that we arnt the real mgtow because of our anger. If only he could see the amused look on my face.
We even created a https://mgtow.com/womens-shelter for them.Isn’t that so nice of us?
Holy S~~~! is that EVERY cat picture ever uploaded to the internet!?
… impressive.
"Compare your lives to mine and then kill yourselves" -BBR
I hate to appear to be “older wiser” but when the manosphere started there was a site which was the center of the “manosphere” it did what FreeGhost is advocating.
The rules were that you were not even allowed to generalize about women. Back then saying AWALT was banned because, at the time, feminists held such hegemony on the topic of sexual role discussion that even making comparison’s of one group as and entity, generalizing was an affront to the status quo.
Many of the best posters of the last 10 years came from there. Typhon Blue was a frequent poster.
With all the pussy footing around we got no attention from anyone. They didn’t even know we existed.
At that time MGTOW first hit the scene and men bifurcated to MGTOW forums or mens rights forums with Mens News Dailey being the center. Paul Elam became editor of that and we changed our verbiage intentionally to one of more aggressive tone. We called a spade a spade and didn’t dandy about.
Mens News Daily http://mensnewsdaily.com/ dropped the mens rights comment section and became more of a web magazine to become more mainstream and the MRA’s left it.
At the same time MGTOW steamed along on their own sites. MRA’s stayed on separate sites to push for social change.
The stronger the rhetoric that was used by the MRA sites the more attention we got from the main stream media and the stronger the MRA sites became. They became so power full that narry a womans article isn’t published today without some mention of how the MRA sites will spin it.
At the same time the MGTOW sites continued to grow but had no real media presence since it didn’t want one. Why would a site dedicated to helping men unplug from the system seek main stream coverage? It would actually be detrimental.
Then the MRA sites had a dilemma. To accept women MRA’s or not. A voice for femme went the road of accepting women posters and that was the end for me for that site. I still posted on other sites.
In conclusion, if you crave the attention and acceptance of the main stream media you are a MRA. You can be both. Going your own way yet advocating for men.
But realize that self censorship will only get you buried in the history of irrelevant men’s web sites. The right to speak the truth in our own words has been won by those who came before you and, rather than making nice with the media, we became a force to recon with.
I believe in free self expression such as calling feminists the gestapo of men hating fascists that they are. Living in a land of hate that burns them up from the inside and turns them into non-thinking flaming piles of s~~~.
I have no problem telling men to stay away from all western women that are complicit in enabling these s~~~ turd bitches from attempting to stamp out anything male.
I hears recently that men were polling 25% for Hillary and 75% against. I think that a strongly worded men’s rights movement has given a voice to men that the political landscape is against them and they are waking up to the damage that feminism seeks to do them.
You can’t make nice with a group that openly calls for you to be in concentration camps with nary a peep of women’s voices against it, like what July Bindle said https://hequal.wordpress.com/2015/09/05/hateful-guardian-writer-julie-bindel-proposes-feminazi-concentration-camps-for-all-men/
No amount of nicey nice talk will change their minds and they’re hate is shared by the main stream media. Expecting the main stream media to ever accept MGTOW or MRA is idiotic and has been proven to be so.
Let them go f~~~ them selves in their little circle jerk and let’s go our own way because happiness is the best revenge.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I don’t know, either. As I understand it, MRAs are concerned about men’s rights especially in relation to marriage-divorce/child visitation/work place. For that matter, I understand PUAs to be a male specialty where men use advanced knowledge of female behavior in order to increase their chances of having sex. I don’t really have a problem with either of those. Maybe one or both of those is understandings is naive. It seems to me we are all on the same side, and any conflict between us is only beneficial to the enemy.
Hey Casper,
This guy is the answer to the thread topic. We assumed he was a rational human being and tried to converse with him. I avoided using language since he doesn’t like it and answered his claims politely, but this is what we get. I simply disagree with him and say he doesn’t seem like a mghow, and then he accuses me/us of being angry and that we arnt the real mgtow because of our anger. If only he could see the amused look on my face.Yes, I see that. The following video is actually what pushed me into making this thread. I had to look for it again. I read something about Dean Esmay here, and then I looked up Dean Esmay MGTOW, and found this video from a claimed MGHOW. I don’t know who this is, but I thought the entire video was pointless.
I guess he feels better after getting all of that out, but it just seemed like a waste of time to me.
What is the point in engaging in an argument with such people. I just walk away, because it boils down to one man imposing his will over another by telling him he is wrong…..F~~~ that! As long as I’m not intentionally hurting anyone, or going out of my way to make somebody “feel” some way I think its best just to not get into it. I do have conversations with people daily, but when it strays into socio/political masturbation, I just get up and walk away. This takes the power out of the argument, and keeps you sane at the same time.
The profanity (as righteous as it may be), will only project us in a negative limelight. The mainstream media will twist our words into inconceivably terrible measures. The classier we maintain ourselves, the less there is to attack, this is all I’m saying.
You actually think “cleaning up” the language here will prevent us being perceived negatively? And prevent the MSM from twisting the words we would use? Or lessen the attacks against us? Really?
What’s the color of the sky in your world? You obviously don’t live on Earth with the rest of us.
The only thing we can do which would prevent negative perceptions, deliberate misquoting, and attacks would be to renounce our MGTOW status. MGTOW is the antithesis of the current feminist worldview consensus. There can be no accommodation because by accepting us and our right to exist they refute themselves. There is no chance of “playing nice” because they have never “played nice”. We are watching the end game of Saul Alinsky’s “long march through the organizations”.
Let me suggest that your read Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals and then reexamine your claims that any accommodation or mutual respect can be had with the people who instinctively and intuitively apply the “principles” in that book.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
A good point, oh ghostly one.
Sometimes I have to pipe in on articles/discussions as some of them are just completely absurd. I’ll use Uncouth Marie an example.
https://uncouthmarie.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/myths-of-mgtow/
In the end, it’s driving a wooden stake up a dead goats ass. Useless.
Fuck this planet.My theory as to why one bothers with MRAs is self-validation of one’s position. There is nothing that one can possibly gain from speaking with them.
Reading “Bitch”, “C~~~”, “Whore”, “Slut”, etc on this site ALL DAY, doesn’t help our cause of raising national attention. The classier we act and present ourselves, the more likely we will be represented in one mannerism or the other in the mainstream media..
Well, if the shoe fits…….
Who exactly wants media attention? Since when is MGTOW about that?
Classy? Let me refer you back to what KM said about Slut walks. (Ooops, I just did a nut ride). Classy? Big Red? Classy? Sharon Osbourne laughing about a guys dick getting cut off and the harpies in the audience laughing about it? Classy? Letting yourself balloon into a big, fat hog while you’re stuffing pie in your fat f~~~ face and calling it ‘fat acceptance’? Women have no class. They thinks it’s something you buy; fancy coffee, purses, clothes, etc. As RGE more or less said about SJW’s, fight fire with fire, but it’s not really a fight anyway.
Meanwhile, women can post KillAllMen on T~~~ter and call us cheap, men children, go on and on about their ridiculous entitlements and the like with a free pass…becasue vagina.
It’s time for the other side to compromise some.
Fuck this planet.My theory as to why one bothers with MRAs is self-validation of one’s position. There is nothing that one can possibly gain from speaking with them.
That’s what this thread comes down to. Validation and the desire to have someone other than mgtow agree or understand… MRA does nothing to improve the perception of men. They haven’t yet figured out that the whole of western society has been infiltrated by feminism and argue that there’s still a way to get men’s rights back. Permit me to laugh my ass off as Obama does at the head of MGTOW.com Men’s Rights Forum. Either they’re kidding themselves or are just online to have a presence, as useless and impotant as that seems at least they seem to be effective as c~~~shield.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I mean, I wish I could be honest and CALLING OUT S~~~ as S~~~ it is, on social media etc.but hey, the World Police says its HATE SPEECH now. Potentially that would mean me losing a job, my character assassination etc. to protect some overemotional douche from what ? A word I say ? On the Internet ?
And then having some World Policeman here, on only website where I can be honest, telling me how to speak.Lovely.Ha! World Police! Haven’t heard that one! Permission to use?
Many, many people on YouTube have threatened to call the Internet Police on Ol’ Uncle Cap.
Fuck this planet.I’m not compelled to post anywhere else but here. I used to post on RT few months ago then they blocked me. I guess the Truth hurts. I still make a few short comments on YouTube but nothing someone could pick and answer to. And then, I have no more time or desire to argue with people. I much rather they see for themselves, like the Greeks did.
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!Agree with most of the posts made here, too many to quote. Content seems a little off from thread title. Nonetheless, some thoughts I have…
MGTOW is not about a “national movement” to change the world or the way that society treats men. This is not a contest, there are no winners, we are not out to appease anyone. This is self preservation at it’s finest. The men here on these boards, have either been through hell, are going through hell, or are one of the lucky few who got grazed by a bullet. Still, others were not as fortunate…
We are men. Period. We do not apologize for our biology. However, because of that, we were born into a world which sees us as dispensable. The cards are forever stacked not in our favor, therefore, the best solution to “win” is to not even play.
Many men have been saved here, figuratively as well as literally.
Go your own way, encourage and inform your fellow brethren, and completely disregard societal “norms” regarding relationships. This is how we survive, gentlemen, not gain media attention.
-Tex
By no means am I suggesting censorship, yet I am suggesting toning down the profane language linked to this website (again well justified profanity in my book).
The tone police is here it seems , this is why i stopped being an MRA in the first place. You guys think that acting nice and saying “please” will get you anywhere.Here’s a small hint, it wont.
And the thing you’re mostly concerned is how some man said “bitch” on a site specifically made for men….No wonder most of your former members are mgtow now.You can’t make nice with a group that openly calls for you to be in concentration camps
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AFM is sinking and so is matt forney, rooshv. All these dudes web traffic went down considerably. This isn’t a baseless claim because you can get traffic stats. Recently Mr Elam threw a ex staff under the bus. These dudes all struggling financially and will probably disappear within 10 to 15 years tops.
Is it that AVFM is falling apart, so there is now an attempt to grab the pieces of AVFM for one’s own following? Forney and Roosh are the PUA/Neo-Masculinity ROK crowd. I have seen Forney end up taking shots at AVFM. Or is it the rest of the manosphere here, seeing decline and death, is like a bunch of rats fighting over the last bit of cheese?
For myself, one of the bonuses (probably the largest) out of the way I do MGTOW is I don’t care if a single other man on the planet has MGTOW as a label, just that my own life is working right. Along the way, I do wish to connect to try to help what I see would fit as MGTOW, but that is only based on what I know, not anything else.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Hey Casper,This guy is the answer to the thread topic. We assumed he was a rational human being and tried to converse with him. I avoided using language since he doesn’t like it and answered his claims politely, but this is what we get. I simply disagree with him and say he doesn’t seem like a mghow, and then he accuses me/us of being angry and that we arnt the real mgtow because of our anger. If only he could see the amused look on my face.
Yes, I see that. The following video is actually what pushed me into making this thread. I had to look for it again. I read something about Dean Esmay here, and then I looked up Dean Esmay MGTOW, and found this video from a claimed MGHOW. I don’t know who this is, but I thought the entire video was pointless.<iframe width=”500″ height=”375″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/0gO7SR3iSt0?feature=oembed” frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>
I guess he feels better after getting all of that out, but it just seemed like a waste of time to me.Thanks for clarifying that. I thought you were posting in response to my thread I started where it was fun to annoy Dean Esmay in the comment section and showed how things can escalate if you engage. What I will say, the doing of videos to attack someone (or mention them in a video) is a way to get them to respond and draw attention to your own channel.
For example, look at this video I did, where I call for TL;DR to do a video on what I did, to get attention for my channel. YouTube and social media lives on this stuff completely. It is how people get views. MRAs attack MGTOW to get views, and does the PUA side. You then get people doing replies, and you create this cycle of bull.
Anyhow, here is my video (I got far more views from this one video done off the cuff) than about any other video I did for my channel (TL;DR liking the video happened to get myself subscribers):
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Is it that AVFM is falling apart, so there is now an attempt to grab the pieces of AVFM for one’s own following? Forney and Roosh are the PUA/Neo-Masculinity ROK crowd. I have seen Forney end up taking shots at AVFM. Or is it the rest of the manosphere here, seeing decline and death, is like a bunch of rats fighting over the last bit of cheese?
Each one of those people / websites / organizations is in it for the money, either through donations or book sales or PUA paid seminars or whatever. They are all segments of the Manosphere Economy, in competition with each other for a very limited supply of dollars. Meanwhile Going Your Own Way is completely free and can’t net any of them so much as a thin dime.
Once you understand that, the behavior of the likes of Paul elameF etc. makes a lot more sense.
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