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Over the past couple of weeks while visiting this site I’ve noticed an increase in MGTOW Vs MRA and vice versa, and I can’t help but think some of you may be missing the point of being a man going his own way. A man going his own way doesn’t engage in futile arguments, because a man going his own way knows better. So, why are some of you engaging in a conflict with other men who disagree with MGTOW? Sure, if you want to share some knowledge with other men, I don’t see that as a problem, but to go to websites and belittle married men and insult the way they look, etc. seems to be uncharacteristic of a man going his own way. Engaging in a debate about MGTOW to the point of personal insults, regardless of whether they are a woman or man, is stupid. A MGHOW doesn’t have to argue about his life, because it is his. And, being that it is your life, I’m not going to tell you what you should do, but if your life is indeed your own then these pointless arguments and personal insults don’t do anything but devalue it.
The way I see it is MGTOW has already won, but when someone chooses to engage in these back and forth arguments it seems to me to undermine the entire point of MGTOW.
I don’t care what MRA’s do. I never will. I don’t argue with them or insult them, because I love my life. It is mine. They can do whatever they want without my input. That applies to women as well.
I agree my ghostly friend. The thing I find upsetting in both MRA and MGTOW communities is how upset they get. Ok, you got burned, so did I. You either move on or you send a bullet through your brain. There is too much whining in both communities, we both understand that the scenario we have to deal with is abominable at best, yet we have long discarded our hate. Women suck, you see it, I see it, the rest of the men need to see it, accept it, and stop bitching because it makes the “manosphere” or whatever seem weak.
Yet, I feel the p~~~ing contest of males will continue at societies disadvantage.
Anonymous42The way I see it is MGTOW has already won, but when someone chooses to engage in these back and forth arguments it seems to me to undermine the entire point of MGTOW.
I hear you brother, I canceled my google and U-tube accounts for now, I got tired for going back and forth with non MGTOW about the philosophy. It’s like arguing with a wall, I give up on them! Only the seeking deserve any of our time!
Actually it’s been nice and quiet lately. RichardH Brought mention of them here today……. and back in February we all but banned AVFM from being discussed here at all. — BECAUSE they (and their opinion on MGTOW) are totally irrelevant. I personally created a thread about that. We’re not even acknowledging their existence.
It wasn’t a MGHOW who produced “MGTOW vs PIG TOW” video was it?
That was Paula Shelamb from AVFEMME. She wen’t out of HER way….. and not the other way around.After that, they aren’t even a topic worth talking about. But some people still want to flame with them and there is nothing we can do about it. As long as they don’t do it here. Since they won’t let up about this “MGTOW Can be married ” horses~~~, nobody can be too surprised when a MGHOW points and laughs at them for it.
It’s really simple. The MRA’s can just shut the f~~~ up about “MGTOW” like they are some authority.
We teach & preach PREVENTION.It’s their own fault.
We had one interaction with Miss Piggy under her PIGTOW youtube video. You know what she said?? “Just ignore me then”. A pretty curious comment coming from someone who WANTED to generate views…. wouldn’t you say?
So that’s EXACTLY what we did. I don’t even type that insignificant piece of s~~~’s name out anymore – except to enjoy just how insignificant to MGTOW he really is.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous18Is not the whole argument about what any man should or should not do regardless of mgtow, mra, pua or married with 3 kids just a futile exercise?
It’s not a mgtow who hurls insults or punches at any other man. It’s some man who agrees with mgtow principles.
What I would argue needs to change is the desire to define a man in certain parameters.
Women go to great lengths to do that job.
Let a man be a man. What he says about mgtow is his own take on it. Sure the feminists will paint any idea represented by such man to poison the well and reinforce him within parameters beyond which hamster wheel can’t function.
Do what you feel like doing. If you feel like defending your point on a given day have at it.
Keymaster, I respect your information wholeheartedly, yet I do not think you are cognizant of the “whining” and “verbally hostile” crowd that we also have here. We both got burned, and we both communicate rather honestly in our discussions without the “chip on our shoulder mentality because we got dumped. If our cause was ever to succeed, we would need to have a well poised organization that brought facts and knowledge to the table without hatred filled complaints littered with profanity and hate speech (again I do not condemn a man for wanting retribution for the s~~~ he has endured). For example, Karen Straughen on the Young Turks had the greatest success with the manosphere because she was well organized, respectful, and classy. Even the leftist followers ostracized the male host (Cenk) because of his hostility towards Karen. We need a more classy and less hateful organization.
Actually it’s been nice and quiet lately. RichardH Brought mention of them here today……. and back in February we all but banned AVFM from being discussed here at all. — BECAUSE they (and their opinion on MGTOW) are totally irrelevant. I personally created a thread about that. We’re not even acknowledging their existence.
It wasn’t a MGHOW who produced “MGTOW vs PIG TOW” video was it?That was Paula Shelamb from AVFEMME. She wen’t out of HER way….. and not the other way around.
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After that, they aren’t even a topic worth talking about. But some people still want to flame with them and there is nothing we can do about it. As long as they don’t do it here. Since they won’t let up about this “MGTOW Can be married ” horses~~~, nobody can be too surprised when a MGHOW points and laughs at them for it.
It’s really simple. The MRA’s can just shut the f~~~ up about “MGTOW” like they are some authority.We teach & preach PREVENTION.
It’s their own fault.
We had one interaction with Miss Piggy under her PIGTOW youtube video. You know what she said?? “Just ignore me then”. So that’s EXACTLY what we did. I don’t even type that insignificant piece of s~~~’s name out anymore.That’s good to know. I don’t really keep up with all of this interaction, and I can see how people claiming that “MGTOW can be married” is laughable. It seems to me they are perhaps just claiming misinformation about MGTOW, because they really hate us. For some reason, though, I had an itch today and I needed to post this thread.
Anonymous18we would need to have a well poised organization that brought facts and knowledge to the table without hatred filled complaints littered with profanity and hate speech
I do not think you are cognizant of the “whining” and “verbally hostile” crowd that we also have here.
What the f~~~ dude?
So you are going to police and fact check a man who is emotional because he can’t get to see his kids because the C~~~ won’t let him?
It’s a stupid idea to have any movement like mentality.
And how exactly do you define hate speech? Can you point one post (besides the litter box) that promotes members to go out and commit acts against women that are illegal? Everything is a hate speech when you start accounting for female’s feelings.
Indeed interactions with MRA’s are pointless.The guys have been sinking with the ship for a while now.
Haven’t flamed or interacted with them really.got tired for going back and forth with non MGTOW about the philosophy. It’s like arguing with a wall,
Some men can learn by only going trough it themselves, and some never learn….sadly.
Keymaster, I respect your information wholeheartedly, yet I do not think you are cognizant of the “whining” and “verbally hostile” crowd that we also have here. We both got burned, and we both communicate rather honestly in our discussions without the “chip on our shoulder mentality because we got dumped.
That’s valid. But take my comment for example. When you first read it, it certainly does sound “hostile”. But what if you imagine a SMILE on my face and read it again? There is no hostility towards AVFEMME. They really DON’T MATTER. And it’s not even my personal opinion. It’s in the google stats. It’s a statistical FACT. They just don’t matter.
I am emphatically maintaining indifference.
Emphatically maintaining indifference is not hostility or whining.We also get accused of “talking too much about women”… but that’s like telling people who live near a mine field to stop talking about mines.
because we got dumped
Oh I’ve been dumped before. But I also dumped. Being dumped is not exclusive to MGTOW so the “they are just a bunch of whiners because they got dumped” actually fails. What IS exclusive to MGTOW is a totally reverse approach than MRAs will take. They want to “fix” s~~~ and negotiate with the terrorists. . A MGHOW doesn’t even place himself in that position.
they are perhaps just claiming misinformation about MGTOW, because they really hate us
Excellent. It means we’re doing everything RIGHT.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I have a YouTube channel on MGTOW. I watch the videos to see what is going on, and I run into them. I will discuss my take on things, and engage that way. I state things as they are and don’t use insults with them. I do express why I feel their activism is a waste of time, but that is about it. I do welcome them seeing if they can persuade me. But mostly it is, “We men need to hang together to change the laws to protect us!” I look to try to be levelheaded with stuff and not call them names, eventhough they do. The do videos on MGTOW and I watch, that is how I find them.
As the MGTOWsphere develops more, MRAs will likely to grow more and more distant. The said “manosphere” is splitting, as far as interaction goes.
I ended up discussing stuff here, related, because it had to do with what was involved with MGTOW. It looks like that the AVFM ban was before I got here, so I won’t look to discuss them. I will see if I can maybe discuss other stuff. I am really limited to when I am on here. My interest with here is on how MGTOW works, and having things better for men being MGTOW, and the life work. That is about it. Let me see what I can personal do for closure here. I am too busy with my own life now, really living MGTOW, and managing. I am working a state job now, and I REALLY have to run clean and manage. I am no place now to date a woman (no space and finances haven’t started to ramp up yet), and even if it were an option, my job wouldn’t allow for the “go see a prostitute option” that is pitched around the MGTOWsphere, and I need to run real tight as I have a small room I am renting (need to manage like 100 square feet to living in (bathroom and kitchen are earlier).
I would be up for discussing being MGTOW. I am losing interest in the rest of the said “manosphere”, and I see the whole understanding women has been done to an extreme. Anything else?
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
The said “manosphere” is splitting
The Manosphere has been disconnected since it’s inception. That was written on our “Manosphere” page which has a 2012 date on it.
“To the casual observer, the Manosphere may seem like a disjointed collection of blogs and websites, but the Manosphere does not exist online; it exists in the hearts and minds of the next great generation of men. “
It doesn’t MATTER if we don’t agree. The greatest male accomplishments and discoveries CAME FROM butting heads and intellects. If everyone in the Manosphere got along with each other, THAT would be something to be concerned about.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.My point is that if we acted more classy, the more our message would resonante with the mainstream media. Profanity and sexist comments derived towards women (as absolutely agreeable to me as they are via personal experience and observation) are a detriment towards our cause of creating a society which values both sexes equally.. Taking the classy route as Karen Straughen (sp?) is the best approach towards implementing true gender equality. The amount of leftists viewers that disagreed with Cenk’s pompous/illinformed viewpoint was astonishing to me. The down votes for “The young turks: was so unbelievable to me, many former leftists claiming “unsubscribed”.
My point is that if we acted more classy, the more our message would resonante with the mainstream media.
Classy???? Have you seen a SLUTWALK lately and all the press they get?? Even MGHOW garbage bag boy who crashed the slutwalk wearing a garbage bag was dressed in a black tie and tails compared to that s~~~.
We ARE more classy.
How about Jezebel; “How to kick a man in the b~~~~; An Illustrated Guide.”.
Look it up.We don’t have a single article about “LOL how to beat your girlfriend ” — or how to kick a woman in the t~~~.
MGTOW are dripping with class. We’re f~~~ing James Bond AND Prince Andrew compared to the “mainstream media”. That’s the S~~~ that’s fit for the mainstream media and broadcast into every home endorsed by advertizers.
Personally I happened to be a striped officer trained in 6-star safety, behavior and service. Not kidding. Those scum NEVER will be. I am actually conscious of saying “good morning” instead of “hi”…. and “my pleasure” instead of “no problem”. that’s just one tiny difference between US – and THEM. They are the ones with no f~~~ing class.
So I used the word “f~~~”. Swearing makes a good point a GREAT f~~~ing point.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.My point is that if we acted more classy, the more our message would resonante with the mainstream media. Profanity and sexist comments derived towards women (as absolutely agreeable to me as they are via personal experience and observation) are a detriment towards our cause of creating a society which values both sexes equally.. Taking the classy route as Karen Straughen (sp?) is the best approach towards implementing true gender equality. The amount of leftists viewers that disagreed with Cenk’s pompous/illinformed viewpoint was astonishing to me. The down votes for “The young turks: was so unbelievable to me, many former leftists claiming “unsubscribed”.
What I would say about the approach you said is that, when others who have a perception of what MGTOW is, run into the high ground approach, it causes them to doubt what they heard, and you gain credibility. I know I look to run my MGTOW YouTube channel that way, when I can. I allow comments, but turned off ratings. So far, I don’t get really any grief on there. I know it could happen in the future, but I feel now it should be minimal. I seek to not give trolls any sort of oxygen to breath out there, or weapons to use. In regards to women, most women I see as human beings, in dealing with them, in regards to whatever personal utility they serve, and their competency. Respect is paid based on competency shown. Things may change a bit if I were doing any sort of dating, but I pay little to no regard to the said “feminine mystique” (or feminine nature). Don’t give room for something to breath and it can’t.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Anonymous42are a detriment towards our cause of creating a society which values both sexes equally..
Dude, theirs no such thing as equality! MEN “ARE” SUPERIOR!
“CAUSE” we have no “cause” we only have solutions! I’m wondering if you made full circle? Creating a society? WE HAVE NO SOCIETY! Being concerned about profanity at this point is kin to being alarmed about the last cinders smoldering in what was your basement!
Anonymous18My point is that if we acted more classy, the more our message would resonante with the mainstream media. Profanity and sexist comments derived towards women (as absolutely agreeable to me as they are via personal experience and observation) are a detriment towards our cause of creating a society which values both sexes equally..
I am no bona fide expert but equality of sexes isn’t something that concerns me. It is the current inequality that I find not worthy to be a part of.
Brother you could donate your kidney and bone marrow to a feminist with metastasized ovarian cancer, you are still a man who is replaceable by the next big thing.
If winning is your aim in the battle of equality by being classy to resonate with feminism (which is mainstream media) then I can tell you from personal experience you will be misguided and deceived. You can ask the once nice guys here.
You go ahead be the model citizen and I will tell you the mainstream media will ignore you. To them you are boring and serve no purpose to their agenda.
And in all the politeness you just have to state a fact or an account with evidence that some woman disagrees to and finds offensive and uses rape culture to defend her motives. You will be called a misogynist. By her and hoardes of other like her.
If you really want to make a change. Become a feminist. Raise your voice against the double standards and hypocrisy you find in the sociopolitical and legal gynocentric institutions.
You can’t fight and win by going to mainstreamsteam media, you can win by removing the variable that has woman’s unconditional love in a man’s life equation.
Let them come to you.
Anonymous42Swearing makes a good point a GREAT f~~~ing point.
F~~~ YEA!!!
I’ll let you guys in on a little secret. A few months before (shortly before) MGTOW.com opened in April 2014 I (we) personally wrote to AVFM to offer help with their website when they were having a hard time with it. Hows that for a classy move??? They posted something about website problems and we answered it.
They didn’t get back to me/us on that.
Oh well.
Their loss.
We even did the same for Roosh when he posted an ad for help. He wrote back and said he was covered. But the ad still ran for at least 10 more months. It may even still be up. We are not the problem. THEY are. They just wanna HATE.
Love it.
That’s WHY we did it. To prove they don’t even WANT to get along.
We are…… “the better man”.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42KM, remember when you made a donation to that guy who’s wife left him with their disabled child? I though that was very kind of you, something I would have done a few years back, but after seeing all the scams and outright thievery, I was right in my prediction that SHE would benefit from any donations.
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