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feminism is to men what the holocaust was to the jews..
I was about to say that but I didn’t want to stir up bad emotions.
But right, Hitler was a “mama’s boy”…
In the 70’s, beating up children was the rule of the day and even back then, I asked myself: “where is this going to lead us?”
Now we know.
My luck was that they had “overdone it” and I don’t even feel like a beaten child. I fought back in such a way, that I might even feel sorry for the attackers.
Psychologists also call this “flooding”. “Too much” and that “all the time” until the victim “switches off”.
P~~~ing women off has become my favorite pastime. Anything I write on this forum has already been said in the presence of “feminist” women. And it hits them like an axe. Because they see that these words don’t come out of an ugly loser’s mouth. Waving my wallet while saying “never” is a priceless look on bitches’ faces.
I always said in public: “I rather be the “chased after” bachelor than a wounded and maltreated husband.”
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Anonymous43I can’t believe I am saying this but a woman gets is what she deserves. Look at all these vids of men smacking women…it takes a very long time for the man to haul off and hit her, because she doesn’t have the good sense to shut up and get out of his face. He is backed in to a corner. He knows not to hit her. at some point she pushes too hard. She won’t listen to his logical reasoning, all she does is shriek in his face. He has no where to go then.

Anonymous3feminism is to men what the holocaust was to the jews..
I was about to say that but I didn’t want to stir up bad emotions.
But right, Hitler was a “mama’s boy”…
In the 70’s, beating up children was the rule of the day and even back then, I asked myself: “where is this going to lead us?”
Now we know.
My luck was that they had “overdone it” and I don’t even feel like a beaten child. I fought back in such a way, that I might even feel sorry for the attackers.
Psychologists also call this “flooding”. “Too much” and that “all the time” until the victim “switches off”.
P~~~ing women off has become my favorite pastime. Anything I write on this forum has already been said in the presence of “feminist” women. And it hits them like an axe. Because they see that these words don’t come out of an ugly loser’s mouth. Waving my wallet while saying “never” is a priceless look on bitches’ faces.
I always said in public: “I rather be the “chased after” bachelor than a wounded and maltreated husband.”
Only the poors beat their children. I know, because my parents were poor and beat me. When they wound up making money suddenly they weren’t so interested in violence. My siblings grew up in a complete different environment than me, one that is far more similar to the upper class people I’d eventually wind up working with in my career, who were shocked that parents actually hit their children, and subconsciously couldn’t reconcile that I grew up poor and still managed to get to the same places they got to.
But eventually I ran out of energy and steam, and MGTOW works kind of fine so I don’t really mind. I’m not what I was even a few short years ago.
Anyway, my father would always talk about Jimmy Carter and insist Carter was beaten by his parents and even that his sisters were treated better than him. I don’t know how much of it is true, but I don’t remember my father mentioning him any time recently, but again he changed all his philosophies. I don’t know whether he was justifying it to himself or to me though.
America is a mess and has been for awhile. But it doesn’t even really matter. Unless I am declared the unchallenged dictator of the Western world I feel no burden to try and fix any of this nor do I have any power to do anything about it.
What I am interested in knowing is…….what is the motivation for men who abuse their girlfriends/fiances/wives.
There are 2 things that cause abuse by men in relationships
1 The wife p~~~ed the man off to a point where the man wants to beat the living s~~~ out of her.
2 The man simply likes power and control and gets off on that
Either way women entice men or go for the men who do one of the two options in fact they even stay with the second type of man as long as it does not get too bad to handle.
Probably because he does not mind showing that he is the dominant one however i am not gonna start pushing the second thing to mgtow men since it is alot f~~~ing easier to leave the plantation all together then to try a marriage using the second thing because if you if you try that then she actually will have a case against you (even thou the courts don’t f~~~ing care).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
I agree with what you gentlemen said. Pretty much everything you all said I agree. I didn’t want to say it in my thread (perhaps women bring on the abuse) even though of course that was the very first thing that I thought of while writing this thread.
So yeah, I agree. I guess I just needed to hear it from you guys. I like this place, you guys don’t mince words. In today’s politically correct society, you have to walk on eggshells. I forgot this is MGTOW and we don’t have to watch what we say (to an extent of course).
Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.
Great question OP and some great responses about a topic that’s needs to be spoken about.
There’s a lot I could say but I’ll restrict it to two things:
1) The majority of victims of violence are men, We all know that – from the police numbers, from the hospital admissions. Men suffer violence MORE than women, but society only speaks about ‘male on female violence’.
2) Violent people learn that violence in childhood, predominantly – overwhelmingly – at the hands of their mother. Again, we know that beyond a doubt, but it is covered up.
Society constantly tells us men, or ‘toxic masculinity’, is the problem. Yes, some small (<10%) of men are violent assholes. But society LIES to us. That’s one of the basic reasons men walk away. They see the reality, and they hear the lies, and they know they’re two different things.
Finally, this:
The vast majority of men are blue pill manginas that would literally rather kill themselves than abuse a woman. So how could it be possible that women are primarily victims? The answer is they aren’t, they just say they are, and won’t shut up about it.
Think about the truth in that. Think about the fact that (here in Oz) ‘one woman a week dies at the hands of a partner or ex-partner’ – a number that is drummed into everyone’s head here repeatedly. So that’s 50 a year (50 too many, to be sure).
Now, the suicide number: 2292 men here in Oz, a figure I had to Google, and the first google result was to an article about how the rising number of women committing suicide was what the government should focus on (I S~~~ YOU NOT).
Not every suicide was a married man, but men are, I’d say, 20-25 times more likely to kill THEMSELVES to get out of a relationship than harm their wife.
Sure 30-40 yrs ago the police wouldn’t do much if you had to ‘explain’ things to your wife but now a guy just has to grab her arm hard and he’s hauled off to jail.
Sounds familiar. I used to know a woman who said that if you hold a woman and don’t let go, you’re raping her.
“If she says let go, you let go!” she’d say. “Otherwise it’s rape! You are fundamentally raping her! Only difference is that you don’t have your dick in her!”
The only difference?
Refusing to let go of somebody is certainly harassment. But saying that it’s rape is how you get many men in jail who don’t really deserve to be there. While I believe that nobody has the right to touch you if you don’t like it, that rule should apply to everybody, not just men.
Furthermore, what about when a woman throws a tantrum on Jeremy Kyle and is restrained by the security guards? If she shouts “Let me go!” and the bouncer declines, does that mean that he’s raping her?
To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

Anonymous25I read an article a few years ago that said that if a person were to kick and abuse a dog, even the most placid of dogs would eventually become aggressive and bite the perpetrator.
If women were kicking and abusing dogs deliberately to make them bite them, would you ask the question why do dogs abuse women?
It’s a dynamic and the majority of abusers are female. What they do is attempt to raise the stress levels of the subject and keep provoking them until they lose their temper. But that makes the female the abuser. Unless there is a detailed forensic psychological assessment by someone who has expertise in female violence, you can’t say who the abuser is.
I’m not even sure if it’s true that many men abuse their women, there’s no evidence. And everyone knows women lie and can be manipulative and it’s common for them to make false accusations.
Feminists have had to try and widen out the definition of “abuse” and “violence” in an attempt to invent violence against women and girls i.e. not allowing her to max out your credit card and get you in debt is now abuse. Not her financially abusing you, which quite clearly it is.
Feminist fraud, just like Erin Pizzey says, to obtain Government funding.
“If she says let go, you let go!” she’d say. “Otherwise it’s rape! You are fundamentally raping her! Only difference is that you don’t have your dick in her!”
Well, in the state of Colorado, holding someone against their will like that…and if she says you were keeping her from letting her leave, the state can try to go at you for ….wait for it….
kidnapping. No s~~~. I didn’t check into the laws, to see if it was on the books, but that’s what I had the system tell me some years back…
I suppose I should be shocked that now it’s in the same vein as rape, in our culture, but I am too busy wondering what they will call it 10 yrs or so from now, to be so.
Seriously, I see no end in sight on the system continuing to tighten it’s grip and strangle hold, but I am more than happy to be proven f~~~ing wrong about it.

Anonymous3DoinMyOwnThing40 wrote:
what is the motivation for men who abuse their girlfriends/fiances/wives.
Why are you pretending the girlfriends and wives didn’t bring it on THEMSELVES?Totally agree. In my childhood, my mother annoyed the s~~~ out of my father with jealousy and money problems and other bulls~~~ and then he became violent and smashed the door and beat her up. This repeated for 15+ years.
Some men are just too stupid to simply walk away and file a divorce and deal with losing half wealth. (now in this situation, both worked and earned similar amounts, so that won’t have been unfair) S~~~, both would have time to rebuild their wealth.
Look to the precursors to the violence.
Women will nag, reproach, and out right disrespect a man regarding things that he knows better than her. She does it to provoke a response of any kind. Sometimes, when the man isn’t wise to the fact that the woman that he loves isn’t playing fairly he lashes out. Either way she wins. One way she gets him to do what she wants, the other ways she gains highly vaunted victim status to an abuser.
There were a hundred times prior to striking her that he could have walked away, told her to f~~~ off, or just ignored her. Because she wanted to “win” she continued when all of the signs were there that the situation would end badly.
Women can’t lose when they provoke men to react violently. For me, part of MGTOW is never giving them the chance.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
I think you need to walk over to the MRA corner and grow yourself some education.
DV is just about 50/50 .
Go ahead, take a walk over to MsPiggy Elams AVFM .They have tons of stats and research for you on this issue.
If Suzy “BanHammer ” McCarley over at AVFM runs you off make sure to tell her MGTOWWAVE said “hi”.
Or better yet go talk to a REAL DV expert like Erin Pizzey for example who can tell you what the REAL DEAL is here.Feminists harrassed and terrorized her for more than a decade btw.
I smell tuna.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Why do many men abuse their women?
For the same reasons why so many women abuse their men.
Because many people are assholes.
Because the old society taught us that when you sign a marriage contract it’s for life and basically you own the other person, and that applies to both women and men.My very own Mother claims that Dad has verbally abused her their entire marriage of 45 years. Dad responds with “But SHE has abused the hell out of me all these years!”
Verbal abuse is reciprocal, in this case, it seems…
SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Before posting all of my topics and replies again, I decided just to put up 2 links to topics I already created on domestic violence:
New Canadian research shows: Women are also abusive – way more than we think…
Seeing the satisfaction that vile women get when they abuse their men or sons
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I smell tuna.
Yes, it smells like a fishing boat.
I would have named this topic like:
“Why does the world think that many….”
or
“Who made us all think that many men…”
But these “tuna” threads always became very interesting. With “tuna in the air” everyone of us suddenly moves away from one-liners and the knowledge starts to flow.
Back in the “old days”, tuna used to stimulate our sperm production, but since they are “empowered”, meaning pseudo-smart, they only stimulate our defensive brains. And that is our mission: De-hypnotizing feminist lies on a global scale. The more tuna come in here, the stronger we become.
The immune system of the body can only be programmed by entering germs that get killed by antibodies.
Tuna coming in here do the same: They program our immune system. The smarter the tuna, the better. After lasting for 3 threads on this forum, they need to go to their shrink anyway.
But scientifically it can be regarded as proof that there is something about the way tunas argue, that makes them detectable. Even on a forum and in total anonymity.
Tunas are allergens. And many of us have “Tuna fish allergy”. And this definitely not because they are nice and “fun to be with”.
But still, the same as it is with our immune system: Too many germs at the same time will kill you. So we could never allow too much tuna in here.
One tuna a day, keeps the blue pill away.
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Here is another repost of a reply I wrote on what to do to make your abusive girlfried leave you:
It is “reported” from my own observations and is actually more about “female psychology”.
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If they don’t leave, just be extremely nice and kind to them. Have the most romantic tender loving sex with them and they are gone as fast as they came. (Videotape it with a candid camera of course)MAKE HER LEAVE: Trigger the „fear of intimacy“… and she is on her way. I once read that „softly stroking, tenderly caressing and touching a borderline causes them pain“.
Treat a borderline woman „like you see in the romantic movies“ and she gets extremely mad…
I had this problem all along – actually being ditched by women for my kindness. They always gave me up because they could not stand the friendly and „upright“ way I treated them.
It seems to me that very many women have problems with „authentic“ men that communicate in a respectful „common ground“ way.
It is true: I once got bashed like „I hate that there is nothing to critizise about you“.
So criticising, nagging, swearing and yelling must be built in to their strange operating system.
MAKE HER LEAVE: Trigger the fear of getting attached to you and maybe also becoming sexually dependant on you…
Normally making love to a women until she „cums“ all over the bed would set her up to notice that both of you fit together in some way, right?
No, she gets up and goes home for the last time, leaving me to clean up the entire „cumfluid-soaked“ bed in the middle of the night.
What have I done wrong? It was just 15 minutes of something that normal men can normally do 3 minutes of…
Being good and nice makes them leave you instantly – and for good if they don’t have a shrink that sends them back.
Only „Bad Boys“ trigger their hormone system. That is why most of them cling to „really“ abusive men all of their lives. It arouses them when the husband demolishes the entire appartment… and „after the blowout“ they can have fullfilled sex together. (While the kids play in the rubble)
That is why not to become a „white knight“: Women that have an abusive or careless partner actually deserve it because they have chosen him intentionally. Only if „the fire gets too hot“ they temporarily need a fireman to send in… So they can have a reunion the next day, while the „white knight“ is in the hospital to treat his bruises and broken bones…
A sane man would not be able to stand this type of lady for long anyway…
But again, there are big books out there that describe why this is happening. And why the majority of women suffer from that syndrome…
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Maybe somebody has said this already but I’ll say it anyway. The definition of abuse has changed. It was changed by feminists to basically include any negative behaviour a man does towards a woman. Get in argument? The man is being abusive, not her. Get angry at her for f~~~ing up? Maybe say something insulting or rude? That’s abuse. Now instead of the 2% of men who are physically violent and abusive, feminists can report 90% of men are abusive because what couple never argues? Abuse stats are bulls~~~. Now you see feminists doing the same thing with rape stats.
I bathe in the tears of single moms.

Anonymous42I don’t abuse women in any way wheresoever I don’t even touch a hair on their heads.
Women don’t abuse me in any way shape or form.
I don’t have any issues regarding abuse and how it’s perpetrated, I live in peace from that mental storm of emotions.
Women can happen on someone else willing to tinker with landmines…
In Soviet times the usual pattern was this:
– Man is working himself to death, what little money he gets – gives to the wife
– He realises nothing will ever get better for him at the job, wife is getting old and ugly – hopelessness sets in
– On paydays he starts stopping by at a watering hole and getting s~~~faced
– Wife starts getting upset by not letting him in, yelling, hitting with pantry and kitchen utensils
– Man fights back
– Hatred sets in – more drinking – more yelling, more hitting
This continues forever or wife divorces the man or he goes to inpatient careproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

Anonymous9They’ll provoke, but we have to be smarter than that.
Unless you want a charge of course.
Don’t ruin your life over some c~~~ whose purpose is to see you broken.
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