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Were it not for this jacked up society and the one sided laws, marriage would have a better chance of working because the women wouldn’t be so out of control and they might appreciate a good husband. As it is now, a man is making a very stupid mistake when he considers getting married.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Men usually get married because of “LOVE”…
Which rarely exists between a man and woman. In reality, it’s lust and infatuation.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
I got married because I was in my mid 30’s with only one serious relationship in my life to that time – buddy that I hung around with who wasn’t involved with anyone either met his now-wife at a party, so I figured I’d try internet dating (this is early 2000’s). Long story short, met my wife. Got physical on our first date, liked her company, had plenty of sex. Just over two years in, got married.
Now I’m stuck with an overweight, lazy, immature woman in her early 50’s who has had no sex drive for the last ten years and thinks that we need to pay for stuff for her family (namely her parents and sister). Now I want to state that her parents don’t know that we’ve paid several thousand in bills for them and would not be happy if they found out (and I told my wife not to pay them, but she did anyway). Her sister is nothing more than an annoying drama queen who is always mooching money (she owes us several thousand, and one reason her parents couldn’t pay those bills is that they gave the sister a few thousand because she gave them a sob story). My wife also thinks that we can just spend money for stupid crap. I own a small business, so I’m able to fully fund retirement accounts plus 529’s for the kids, and excess money over what I take home to pay the bills stays in the business so she doesn’t see it.
Moral to the story – if you’re dating a divorced woman, check into why she’s divorced. Wish I had done that (hell, I wish I had just stayed single). Instead of having to go out of town to attend a graduation party this weekend (and possibly seeing her idiot sister because she lives near there), I could be home doing some yard work, then sitting on a deck enjoying a cold beer listening to the baseball game.
Instead of having to go out of town to attend a graduation party this weekend (and possibly seeing her idiot sister because she lives near there), I could be home doing some yard work, then sitting on a deck enjoying a cold beer listening to the baseball game.
I like to remember the “things I had to do” when I was married, because now it makes the freedom to do the simple things like sit on the deck with a beer, cigar, a game on the radio, meat on the grill…seem so much nicer.
I hope you will be able to escape the terrible bonds of matrimony soon so you can regain your freedom and do what you “want to do” instead of what you “have to do”, because of some woman.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Instead of having to go out of town to attend a graduation party this weekend (and possibly seeing her idiot sister because she lives near there), I could be home doing some yard work, then sitting on a deck enjoying a cold beer listening to the baseball game.
I like to remember the “things I had to do” when I was married, because now it makes the freedom to do the simple things like sit on the deck with a beer, cigar, a game on the radio, meat on the grill…seem so much nicer.
I hope you will be able to escape the terrible bonds of matrimony soon so you can regain your freedom and do what you “want to do” instead of what you “have to do”, because of some woman.Thank you – it’s amazing how much you miss the small things when you’re stuck in an unhappy marriage. I literally can’t stand to be around my wife anymore – driving in a car with her is a pain as she’s always commenting about how every other driver is a d-bag and she’s justified in having road rage. She thinks that acting like a 12 year old (swearing, juvenile humor) is endearing, when it’s pathetic. She has to be the laziest person on the planet, which shows in how messy our house is and how she doesn’t weigh much less than me despite being a good 6″ shorter (I’m 6’1″ 220 lbs, and she’s around 5’7″ and has to be close to 200 lbs).
As I’ve stated before, I’m only staying for the kids. They’re still little (meaning grade school age), and if we were to split up, I don’t trust her not to tell them what a d-bag Daddy is (yes, she’s that immature). They do see how lazy she is (last week when we were playing outside, one of the kids went inside to get something, and when he came out, I asked him what Mommy was doing, and he replied that she’s sitting on the couch like she always is), and I don’t want that to rub off on them. They see that I take them places and have fun with them, while Mommy just sits on her rear and is always playing on her phone.
I loved her. The sex was pretty good. It was a formality to me as I was operating under the delusion a woman can actually love anybody else.
Big mistake. 12 years of child support to go before I pull a Brendan Fraser
Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805Instead of having to go out of town to attend a graduation party this weekend (and possibly seeing her idiot sister because she lives near there), I could be home doing some yard work, then sitting on a deck enjoying a cold beer listening to the baseball game.
I like to remember the “things I had to do” when I was married, because now it makes the freedom to do the simple things like sit on the deck with a beer, cigar, a game on the radio, meat on the grill…seem so much nicer.I hope you will be able to escape the terrible bonds of matrimony soon so you can regain your freedom and do what you “want to do” instead of what you “have to do”, because of some woman.
Thank you – it’s amazing how much you miss the small things when you’re stuck in an unhappy marriage. I literally can’t stand to be around my wife anymore – driving in a car with her is a pain as she’s always commenting about how every other driver is a d-bag and she’s justified in having road rage. She thinks that acting like a 12 year old (swearing, juvenile humor) is endearing, when it’s pathetic. She has to be the laziest person on the planet, which shows in how messy our house is and how she doesn’t weigh much less than me despite being a good 6″ shorter (I’m 6’1″ 220 lbs, and she’s around 5’7″ and has to be close to 200 lbs).
As I’ve stated before, I’m only staying for the kids. They’re still little (meaning grade school age), and if we were to split up, I don’t trust her not to tell them what a d-bag Daddy is (yes, she’s that immature). They do see how lazy she is (last week when we were playing outside, one of the kids went inside to get something, and when he came out, I asked him what Mommy was doing, and he replied that she’s sitting on the couch like she always is), and I don’t want that to rub off on them. They see that I take them places and have fun with them, while Mommy just sits on her rear and is always playing on her phone.Yeah, and they can’t even let you have the small things, can they……just sitting in peace under a shade tree having a cold beer. I remember when I was still married, she’d go down to her mom’s lake house and stay with her and her sister for the weekend. Man, those hours of freedom were so wonderful…..and then she returned.
I know exactly what you’re talking about. I hated to be around my wife. It was such a great feeling when she’d leave to go to work at her evening job and I saw her drive down the street. I know I’d have some few hours of peace and I’d breath a heavy sigh of relief. Then, I’d hear the garage door open and I immediately became tense and uncomfortable. Then I’d hear the car door shut and the kitchen door open and my misery would return. I’d hear her eat something in the kitchen, then hear her brushing her teeth in the bathroom, then hear her go to the bedroom, hoping that she’d stay in there, but she always came back out for something. Then finally, she’d go back to the bedroom and I’d hear the door shut and breath another sigh of relief as then I knew the rest of the evening was mine. I absolutely hated the woman.
I used to actually love going to work in the morning because it was an escape from her. Then I dreaded coming home after work and I drove really slow going home. Now it’s the exact opposite and I love going home after work because I know there will be no one there and I’ll have the house all to myself and it’ll be peaceful, relaxing, almost paradise. I love being home alone. It’s my favorite place to be.
My x tried to turn my son against me and would tell him bad things about me, but I made it a point to not be that way and I never said anything bad about his mom to him. As he got older, he found out what kind of person she was. I didn’t need to tell him anything. He could see it for himself.
Well, looks like you’ve got a long road ahead of you if your kids are only in grade school. I feel for ya’. Just keep looking at that light at the end of the tunnel as it slowly gets brighter and believe me, you may not be prepared for the joyous feeling you get when it’s finally over and you’re free. I can’t remember when I’ve ever been so happy as I was on the day the divorce was final. I put my divorce decree in a picture frame and it’s still hanging on my living room wall seven years later.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Geez, Hermit, you sound just like me. She’s a teacher, so she’s now off for the summer and her top thing to do is sleep in as long as she can. It’s a beautiful day today and she was still in bed at 7:45 when I left for work (after I had gone for a bike ride). Like you, I like it much better when it’s just the kids and me (if it’s just me, then she has the kids, and that means that she’ll bitch that they’re driving her nuts, while I never do that). I take the kids out on weekends and tell her it’s to give her a break, while in reality it’s to get away from her. Her family is also a PITA (not her parents – they’re elderly with all of the problems that come from that, and they’ve always been very generous despite not having a lot) – namely her siblings. Always some sort of drama with them (I have a brother, and we’re totally drama-free). As for sex, that’s long gone, but that’s OK as she’s not appealing to look at due to her weight (which she does nothing about despite her stating periodically that she wants to lose it).
I’m happy that you were able to get out and keep a strong relationship with your son – the fact that you never bad-mouthed his mom despite the things she told him about you says volumes. My wife’s sister is like this – always bad-mouthing her kids’ dad to everyone, including them. Thankfully they’re in their 20’s now and realize that their mom is nothing more than a drama queen so they tune her out most of the time.
wow, great reading on this thread. Reading Crowbar’s story is a plain caution to men like me.
I got married because I was in my mid 30’s with only one serious relationship in my life to that time ….Got physical on our first date, liked her company, had plenty of sex. Just over two years in, got married.
I read all your posts dude. Iam you, before you got married. I’ve met so many men on this website in their 40s and 50s — that when I read their stories…. well, Id have to be a damn fool not to heed this warning. For once in my life, Im going to learn from watching others instead of having to get burned myself.
Im certain that men love their chilrdren, but given the modern issues with women, Im convinced most men wouldn’t of gone through with it if they could go back. Not because of the kiddos, but because their useless parasitic wives turned on them. I think the last men that would do it all over again, are Baby Boomer Dads who havent had to be married to 3rd wave psycho trout, only 2nd wave psycho trout. LOL
he replied that she’s sitting on the couch like she always is
As for sex, that’s long gone
Now I’m stuck with an overweight, lazy, immature woman in her early 50’s who has had no sex drive for the last ten years
I want intimacy bad, but at what cost? If you wake up one day at 45 years old, to the reality of the above? Fvck that bro… no sex and a lazy, dead weight, nagging airbox woman to deal with? I will Go My Own Way
MAN OUT
Geez, Hermit, you sound just like me. She’s a teacher, so she’s now off for the summer and her top thing to do is sleep in as long as she can. It’s a beautiful day today and she was still in bed at 7:45 when I left for work (after I had gone for a bike ride). Like you, I like it much better when it’s just the kids and me (if it’s just me, then she has the kids, and that means that she’ll bitch that they’re driving her nuts, while I never do that). I take the kids out on weekends and tell her it’s to give her a break, while in reality it’s to get away from her. Her family is also a PITA (not her parents – they’re elderly with all of the problems that come from that, and they’ve always been very generous despite not having a lot) – namely her siblings. Always some sort of drama with them (I have a brother, and we’re totally drama-free). As for sex, that’s long gone, but that’s OK as she’s not appealing to look at due to her weight (which she does nothing about despite her stating periodically that she wants to lose it).
I’m happy that you were able to get out and keep a strong relationship with your son – the fact that you never bad-mouthed his mom despite the things she told him about you says volumes. My wife’s sister is like this – always bad-mouthing her kids’ dad to everyone, including them. Thankfully they’re in their 20’s now and realize that their mom is nothing more than a drama queen so they tune her out most of the time.I’m sure most married men will sound the same as us with their stories of marital misery.
Ah man, her family. I hated it when she’d drag me to her family’s place. Her dad was the only one I could get along with. The rest of them were hateful and useless. I finally decided I was never going to go with her to her family even on holidays. Her sister was one of the biggest cun.ts I’ve ever seen. I certainly don’t miss that horrible b!tch.
Knowing how horrible it is for you kinda’ makes me feel bad. I wish you didn’t have so long to go to get out of that sh!tty marriage. I remember how miserable I was and I’ll never forget it. Like I said before, I like to think back to some of those terrible times because it’s so much better now. I do whatever I want, whenever I want, however I want and there’s no stupid woman there to nag at me. My bank account continues to grow and I now have more money than I’ve ever had. It’s so good to be free. I want that for you as well. I wish we could meet up and drink a cold beer under the shade tree and look out into the woods and listen to the peaceful sounds of nature. I’ll try to remember and do that in the next day or two and say a prayer for you.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
You’re a good man, Hermit. Scary thing, as I mentioned, is that your old situation with your ex sounds like mine now. You mentioned that you loved it when she went to her mom’s lake house. I recall several years ago when she went away for five days with some friends out of state – just the boys and me. It was like heaven – didn’t have to deal with her bitching about the kids driving her crazy, how I didn’t do something correctly, on and on. If I was gone for less than one day, I’d get an earful about how hard she had it dealing with the kids.
Gravel, you are a smart man for taking advantage of the education that you’re getting here. I wish this site was around back in 2001 when I started internet dating because my buddy met his future wife – I would have saved a lot of misery. I wouldn’t have my boys, but my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it. I also have to deal with a woman in her early 50’s who thinks her acting like a pre-teen is cute (this is a woman who thinks burping and farting loud is appropriate). I honestly don’t know WTF I was thinking when I got together with her (well, I know – it was sex as we hit it right away, which is a big mistake). We have to go on a “vacation” with some other families next week, and I’m dreading it, as her immaturity will be on full display (there are some HS and college kids in the group, which makes her think that her immaturity makes her the “cool” adult when it just makes her an immature idiot). Like Hermit, I stay at work longer so that I don’t have to deal with her as much (although I do want to go home and play with the kids, as she will be inside sitting on her duff because it’s just too hard to take them outside on a 80 degree sunny day).
I know a real blue-pill guy that is trapped in a marriage. Apparently his wife has a male toy on the side. He claims so anyway. He tried to take his own life about a month ago. Nearly succeeded. Only a few things can drive a normal man to want to OFF himself. A woman is one of them.
When I was a VERY emotions-on-the-sleeve type, burning-heart, 18 year old. I didn’t know how to make sense of it all. I was hardly a young adult. I just wanted two things: 1. a woman’s legit affection/love 2. unhindered marijuana/beer consumption
So joining the Marine Corps at 18 basically on a dare, proved to be a untenable commitment.
When you describe the unbearable agony of where you’re at with your wife. And I try to picture where my friend was at when he tried to kill himself… I remember when I went Unauthorized Absence AWOL the first time. I was dealing with waking up everyday to what seemed like groundhog day type nightmare of horrible feelings. It was like imprisonment. I HAD to get out! I just could not take it. I had endured 12 weeks of basic training and that was fine. But I couldnt face the next 3.5 years for some reason. I became emotionally compromised and finally BROKE. I took flight and acted out via Article 86 UA.
It was because of the hormones and emotions and unchecked desires. All I wanted was beer and a woman. I could have neither.
So I left and went and got them. Both proved to be an utter waste of time and set me back decades.I wish I could go back in time with what I know now. But atleast I know what I know now. And though I have been paperfvcked to oblivion and screwed up a lot of golden opportunities, atleast I dont have to make the same mistakes again. I know better now, especially with alcohol. And because of the limited past experiences I have with women and the accounts Ive read here, I can jettison the idea of “a woman’s love” too. I choose to live free of both, that’s just me. Yall enjoy your beers.
Some have been talking about the “Post Red Pill Malaise” and Red Pill Rage… The sh!t is real. Us young guys, and yall too.. all of us have to come to terms with the TRUTH in our own way. And it aint easy. But the truth is liberating.
I may not be able to drink or enjoy the illusion that I thought women were… but I sure do feel FREE.
That is a partial victory that is long-lasting.my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it.
I’ve lived with women twice in my life and both times my health was affected in a negative way. The first time I wasn’t married and didn’t live with her very long and as soon as I left her and lived by myself again, my health quickly got better. This last time when I was married, I lived with this gal for over two decades and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get back to good health. I’m beginning to become very concerned.
I actually had to start locking my wallet in my car and hide the keys because I caught my x looking through and counting the money. The first time I told her not to do that anymore. Then I walked in on her doing it again. That was the last time because she never saw my wallet again.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it.
I’ve lived with women twice in my life and both times my health was affected in a negative way. The first time I wasn’t married and didn’t live with her very long and as soon as I left her and lived by myself again, my health quickly got better. This last time when I was married, I lived with this gal for over two decades and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get back to good health. I’m beginning to become very concerned.
I actually had to start locking my wallet in my car and hide the keys because I caught my x looking through and counting the money. The first time I told her not to do that anymore. Then I walked in on her doing it again. That was the last time because she never saw my wallet again.I get you, trust me. The thought of riding in a car for 12 hours listening to her bitch about how every driver on the road is a d-bag (how dare you make a left turn in front of us, you’re a d-bag), and bitching about how I picked the wrong toll booth, or how bad traffic is, or how I picked the wrong parking spot at the rest area, fills me with dread.
my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it.
I’ve lived with women twice in my life and both times my health was affected in a negative way. The first time I wasn’t married and didn’t live with her very long and as soon as I left her and lived by myself again, my health quickly got better. This last time when I was married, I lived with this gal for over two decades and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get back to good health. I’m beginning to become very concerned.I actually had to start locking my wallet in my car and hide the keys because I caught my x looking through and counting the money. The first time I told her not to do that anymore. Then I walked in on her doing it again. That was the last time because she never saw my wallet again.
I get you, trust me. The thought of riding in a car for 12 hours listening to her bitch about how every driver on the road is a d-bag (how dare you make a left turn in front of us, you’re a d-bag), and bitching about how I picked the wrong toll booth, or how bad traffic is, or how I picked the wrong parking spot at the rest area, fills me with dread.
Sounds horrible, indeed. I truly wish there was something I could do to help……….but instead, I’ll just brag that tonight after work, instead of going home, a friend and I will be going to my local hangout and we’ll be drinking several cold beers and eating some good food……and I’ll go home whenever I feel like it and when I get there, it’ll be empty and beautiful and peaceful.
Maybe when you’re on the road with that idiot woman you can think of me being free and that will make you happy. LOL
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it.
I’ve lived with women twice in my life and both times my health was affected in a negative way. The first time I wasn’t married and didn’t live with her very long and as soon as I left her and lived by myself again, my health quickly got better. This last time when I was married, I lived with this gal for over two decades and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get back to good health. I’m beginning to become very concerned.I actually had to start locking my wallet in my car and hide the keys because I caught my x looking through and counting the money. The first time I told her not to do that anymore. Then I walked in on her doing it again. That was the last time because she never saw my wallet again.
I get you, trust me. The thought of riding in a car for 12 hours listening to her bitch about how every driver on the road is a d-bag (how dare you make a left turn in front of us, you’re a d-bag), and bitching about how I picked the wrong toll booth, or how bad traffic is, or how I picked the wrong parking spot at the rest area, fills me with dread.
Sounds horrible, indeed. I truly wish there was something I could do to help……….but instead, I’ll just brag that tonight after work, instead of going home, a friend and I will be going to my local hangout and we’ll be drinking several cold beers and eating some good food……and I’ll go home whenever I feel like it and when I get there, it’ll be empty and beautiful and peaceful.
Maybe when you’re on the road with that idiot woman you can think of me being free and that will make you happy. LOLBrag away – Lord knows you’ve earned it. My wife’s best friend has mentioned that the two of them should head to the beach and stay at her friend’s mom’s place (about 11-12 hour drive from us), and I hope they decide to go this summer.
Many thanks to Hermit for starting this thread.
When I first joined this forum the very first question that I asked is “Why do men (still) get married”? This thread is as close as I’ve yet come to getting an answer to that question. Although it still baffles me that all men today do not have our MGTOW attitude toward marriage.
I’ve never been married. The urge to get married was never really all that strong. My father told me that “A man needs a woman in his life to help him through the bad times”. I soon found out that women were actually the cause of the worst times in my life. Dad, it seems, was really full of $hit about a lot of things…
Most guys believe in Disney Love, the same as Women. The end goal is marriage, ever since they were age 7.
The idea, “she loves me,” starts out invincible and then immediately starts eroding, but the men deny the lie to the bitter end. Faced with the un-face-able, they adopt “faith that it will get better” as a permanent coping mechanism.
At least that is my observation.
my health and attitude would be a lot better. Right now, I have to hide money in my business so that she doesn’t see it.
I’ve lived with women twice in my life and both times my health was affected in a negative way. The first time I wasn’t married and didn’t live with her very long and as soon as I left her and lived by myself again, my health quickly got better. This last time when I was married, I lived with this gal for over two decades and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to get back to good health. I’m beginning to become very concerned.I actually had to start locking my wallet in my car and hide the keys because I caught my x looking through and counting the money. The first time I told her not to do that anymore. Then I walked in on her doing it again. That was the last time because she never saw my wallet again.
I get you, trust me. The thought of riding in a car for 12 hours listening to her bitch about how every driver on the road is a d-bag (how dare you make a left turn in front of us, you’re a d-bag), and bitching about how I picked the wrong toll booth, or how bad traffic is, or how I picked the wrong parking spot at the rest area, fills me with dread.
Sounds horrible, indeed. I truly wish there was something I could do to help……….but instead, I’ll just brag that tonight after work, instead of going home, a friend and I will be going to my local hangout and we’ll be drinking several cold beers and eating some good food……and I’ll go home whenever I feel like it and when I get there, it’ll be empty and beautiful and peaceful.Maybe when you’re on the road with that idiot woman you can think of me being free and that will make you happy. LOL
Brag away – Lord knows you’ve earned it. My wife’s best friend has mentioned that the two of them should head to the beach and stay at her friend’s mom’s place (about 11-12 hour drive from us), and I hope they decide to go this summer.
Had a good time at the local hangout last night, as always. Used to dread the drive home, knowing that b!tch of a wife was there to be hateful to me, but not anymore. Stay out as late as I want and get home as late as I want and then when I get home, do whatever the hell I want. Life is great when you don’t live with a woman.
Ah, 12 hours away, means you get a little peace and happiness. I hope you can hang there, Crowbar and keep as much of your sanity as possible. One day, you will be free and happy.
This song is my divorce anthem. I must’ve played it at leat a hundred times when I got divorced.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Many thanks to Hermit for starting this thread.
When I first joined this forum the very first question that I asked is “Why do men (still) get married”? This thread is as close as I’ve yet come to getting an answer to that question. Although it still baffles me that all men today do not have our MGTOW attitude toward marriage.
I’ve never been married. The urge to get married was never really all that strong. My father told me that “A man needs a woman in his life to help him through the bad times”. I soon found out that women were actually the cause of the worst times in my life. Dad, it seems, was really full of $hit about a lot of things…My dad admittedly saw how miserable I was when I was married and can now see how happy I am after the divorce, yet just recently told me that a man needs a woman almost in those exact same words you typed. My dad is a little full of s~~~ sometimes himself.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
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