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I think theres something for us all to learn here Including joey.
I just got done writing a 40 min post just to realize I wasnt logged in when i hit post my reply.
It was Epic full of Epiphanys I would like to share. I Respectfully ask others not to ban him.
I think Joey is tuna, or a pathological liar. I don’t buy half the s~~~ he claims.
Don’t care. I am obviously not here for you.
I also, from only skimming his garbage, get the feeling he’s been married for a brief period of time, if his marriage isn’t also bulls~~~.
Together living “as married” 16 years, actually married 5 years.
…I’m sure you’re completely different than the rest of us.
Different than many of you fo sho.
Different than Brad Pitt.
Wow. Now I am being compared to Brad Pitt! I probably dated more women than BP and married less of them – and I am divorced to zero of them.
…Your wife is Princess Perfect…
I never used the word perfect to describe either one of us.
I do also note that you seem to be implying that your Princess is a professional woman in her 40s or early 50s.
50s. Yes.
By any chance has she hit the Wall?
I don’t know. She is the hottest 50-something woman I know. Neither of us is as beautiful as we were in our 20s. We were both “dating machines” when we were younger. I never asked her how many men she has dated exactly but I know it was a s~~~-load. She is still a gym rat and generally has abs that rival mine, if not better at times. Young dudes still hit on her at the gym. So I am guessing that the wall is still a few years away.
By any chance do you have a fair amount of coin?
My wife makes 4X what I make. I am sort of a surf bum. I make enough money to do the things I like to do, which are all fairly cheap. My wife has more expensive taste. We do not mix up our money. She buys whatever she wants with her money and we share house expenses. No one tells me how to spend my income outside of my share of the home maintenance/expenses. We are two married, independent people.
…I think that all of us, who have experienced the same happy Addictive Hormone C~~~tail that you are currently experiencing, are familiar with its effects…
Been high on that c~~~tail for 21 years so far. If it ends tomorrow that would be a success by American standards.
We just don’t, in fact, think your relationship is particularly stable, and have experienced firsthand just how dangerous ‘professional’ women are. Particularly in a court. Or when they feel slighted. Good luck with that.
“Dangerous Professional Women”. I love that. Like she is a cage fighter or something. Perhaps I should go find a high-school drop-out to hook up with and rid myself of all this danger surrounding me.
The final thing we think you can go f~~~ yourself with is the idea that you, oh munificent statistical differential, should be giving advice to the masses about how awesomez womyn are and how everyone should be as happy as you.
Some people might like to know that it is POSSIBLE to be happy with a female companion under contract. I do not, however, condone marriage in general. You better be freaking SURE before you do that, and I get the feeling that due diligence was not performed by every man here before sticking a body part into a female or signing a contract to get (hopeful) “free” access to a vagina.
There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come, as Victor Hugo said. Nothing. Reproductive rates and marriage rates have been plummeting for decades – and are now falling off a demographic cliff – because of third-wave feminism and its wildly toxic and possibly civilization-ending effects. This is the collective experience of the entire goddamn planet. Many of us – educated probably rather beyond you, newb – also had illusions that we were going to buck this very evident trend and have some kind of unique relationship with our unique wives in a unique blah blah blah inventing a new wheel building a better mousetrap blah blah blah.
Can’t argue with this. It does seem hopeless at times. Yet, somehow, a few of us manage to make it work. It is not impossible for everyone to be happy with a lifelong partner. It does, literally, still happen every day.
I name you tuna. I name you naive. I name you newb.
Dang…just when I was getting used to being named Brad Pitt!
But don’t give advice, newchum. You don’t have the experience to do so.
I respectfully disagree.
Oh, also. What happened to the legions of women that made up your c~~~ count? That was all you, ditching them? You never got ditched? They weren’t special? Only your current, Addictive Hormone Producer Meatsack is special?
You don’t have to presume anything with me. Just ask. I am here to help and will answer honestly or tell you “I don’t know”.
As I wrote earlier, 60 of the women I “dated” were as I was a male escort. I had sex with zero of them. They got on with their lives naturally and with some other guy I assume.
As for the 30 (or so) I had “sex” with (depending on your definition of sex), some dumped me – usually to go back to their previous boyfriend who did everything they asked them to do. A few I dumped for various reasons or just got tired of them being boring or just a pain in the ass. Some insisted: “We get engaged or we are done”. So…we were done. The balance of them just came and went naturally as our relationships were just “buddies” and progressed no further. I still have some of these female friends – mostly athletes who do the stuff I like to do. The one out of 30 that I married, ironically, never insisted on anything. She simply told me that IF I asked, she would say yes.
Hope you got a pre-nup!
Sure do. It’s to protect HER, not me. She makes most of the money and has everything to lose. If it were opposite, we would still have a pre-nup. Neither of us is THAT high on the drugs you keep referring to. Or stupid.
Anything else on your mind, I’ll be around. I guess. Which reminds me – Thanks to the guys who voted for me to not get blocked from MGTOW. I can be entertaining, which is what the Internet is for, isn’t it?
If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?
I haven’t really experienced this problem of women wanting to make dramatic changes to me. I guess the ones that tried got frustrated and disappeared on their own.
Now I will say that I married an independent woman later in life in our 40s (neither of us were married before because neither of us wanted to compromise much or give up our opposite-sex friends)
and she “stuck” because she liked me for most of who/what I am. Not all of course. Of course she tells me what she LIKES or does NOT LIKE about me without any bulls~~~ manipulations. It is my choice to comply, or not without fear of reprisal. BUT…and this is important for you guys who have not given up on women yet…I enjoy making my woman happy when I CAN. She is not wild about beards and I don’t care either way – so I stay clean shaven. I don’t mind shaving every day. I do not identify with my facial hair. I like my wife to shave her legs and underarms. This is a pain in the ass for her I am sure, but she does it because I like it.I could give you a long list of things we do to make each other happy, and things we DON’T DO because we feel strongly about it. For one…I hate sitting in a movie theater on a beautiful day to be outdoors. She LOVES movies. This is what her old boyfriends or girlfriends are for – go to the movies with her. It keeps both of us happy at the same time even though we are apart. My wife loves watching the evening news and I freaking HATE that. So I plug in my earbuds and vanish to my office for 30 minutes to surf porn on the web (or whatever) and blow my eardrums out with music. Yes, it is OUR house and I have a right to some peace and quiet when I get home from work and she has a right to watch what she wants on the TV. When the news is over we get together if we feel like it.
Sure I had to date a lot of women to find this one, but point is…giving up would not have done me much good. I kept swinging the bat until I finally connected and sent one out of the park in center field.
So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long. For you dudes who aren’t so attached to your “Batman mustache” that it turns you Monk, keep swinging for the fences. Even if you never find a “keeper” the hunt can be a blast!
You are a fool that is either full of s~~~, or is delusional.
I have nothing else to say about that, and I won’t even bother trying to convince you about why it’s futile to work with a women let alone live with one.
Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.
Joey Brooks is a c~~~ guys, it’s not a man, we have a c~~~ infiltrator.
Good one! Made me laugh!
So that’s how it works around here. Someone has some genuine input that goes against the grain a bit and they get accused of being female. And likely the next step is my Log On won’t work.
Just because some of us here have made some bad choices does not give any of us the right to eff-up the lives of young people. Sure, some here think they are SAVING them from the monsters. And I bet those people have dated very few women. I had a one-man escort service in college with 60 female clients, most of them engaged to some dude out of town or not willing to play the dating game. I had sex with ZERO of them and married ZERO of them. Most were pretty cool girls. My dating total is near 200 women and I had sex with about 30 of them (depending on what you consider “sex” to be). I didn’t marry 29 of those women.
So if you want a guy in here with REAL first hand experience in NOT getting screwed by women, I am your man. If you want to call me names, question my gender, or ban me, then you are doing a grave disservice to some – if not MOST – of the younger guys.
I don’t care. I come here when I have a moment to kill at work.
Heres where the problem exists.
I think You beilieve that what your doing will wind up saving young lives(honorable).Everyone who is in disagreement with you beilieves they are doing exact same thing(honorable).
That doesn’t happen outside of RESULTS .RESULTS are a requirement, in this Context .
The PROBABILITY of that outcome heavily remains in the CAUSE/CAUSES of what winds up destroying their lives, or what Will, literally.
I’m sure that you can understand that.
I beilieve in some way your trying to defend your wife, I cant hold you in contempt, I understand Why.
Every man that is here was in love with their wife.
Some of the others who are here, who Haven’t been in love WANT to be.Thats What your not seeing.
The men that are here were destroyed, they could care less about a notch count. Their wives mattered to them the only way someone can when you love them. before their wives annihilated their social well-being. The aspects or condition of the love that gave them purpouse to satisfy someone allowed for them to be effected permanently by betrayal .Betrayed Love, actual love ,is permanently damaging.
It takes time to build an empire and women only take you seriously when you do, just to take it from you. What then ,you scrape by and all the women who know you now know you as nothing more than a loser without money .What does that teach you?
Show me a poor man and then show me his GF.
Having to tell someone NO Isn’t a general indication of whether they care its the exact opposite . Its akin to telling someone not to do something to hurt you because thats what its become.You shouldnt have to say No in the first place, what happened to independence .
All you see are Women haters.People whom somethings wrong with who talk down about Women.I guarentee with what I myself know about love is that these Men loved their wives, who were women.
Some have had multiple relationships with women. Let me ground you in reality, a place that spares no consequence.
My first GF averaged about lets say 400 dollars a week going out shopping.She HATED having sex with me, always freaked out when I went out with friends but had the nerve to tell me I was smothering her.Needless to say she really enjoyed 400 dollars a week for free.
My 2nd was a trainwreck. I averaged about 1k a week on her expensive ass. Sex was as frequent as possible.No real problems.She called me one night to EXPRESS she wanted to f~~~ another man 2 days after I paid a s~~~load of money on some bs.I found out she was married.
A chick I was seeing at one Point well, I found out she was Married too after we undressed.That was awkward.
Another time I met a blonde who told me point blank I was handsome enough to date her and because of my income Would date me as long as i took care of her. There was a major mixup because some other dude showed up thinking she was talking about him, no need for details.
At one point I chose to go after ugly chiks because i thought life affored them time to think, nope.
I remember a time being out with Two bombshells at the same time. Pressure was real. High end restuaraunt. Lets just say real life teachs you s~~~.My car wasnt fancy enough.
My ex Wife I adored. I spent about on average 1.5-1.8k a week on HER. I never questioned it. I practically Worshipped the Women doing everything she asked beilieving i had enough. Her wedding set was the cost of a TWO F~~~ING bedroom HOUSE.She had it all. I worked my ass off and she rarely saw me. I got royally F~~~ED just because i loved her.
During my divorce, I lost all sense of who I was.Everyone she called f~~~ed me six ways to sunday.I was filled a crippled with fear. I literally fealt F~~~ed and I was.I also realized when my ass became homeless because of it I could die in those streets and as long as she had food in her stomach my death would justify F~~~ing cheesecake over love.
All my life except for now when I had a Women in it no matter how far I climbed the latter wasnt good enough because I wasnt good enough. I have had plenty more expieriences with Women who were supposedly Culturally different, morally different etc.
Fast forward to an old men and it never had anything to do with nothing but money.If there wasnt more there wasnt enough.
You Sound Young. I understand.If you can make your marriage work i ADVOCATE you do but men need to be aware of the s~~~ that can happen and does which is no ones fault but greedy bitchs who cant get Benjamin out of her diet.
You Sound Young.
Going on 59 years young.
…If you can make your marriage work i ADVOCATE you do but men need to be aware of the s~~~ that can happen and does which is no ones fault but greedy bitchs who cant get Benjamin out of her diet.
I read your entire post but this last bit really stood out. How do you guys vindicate all of the poor decisions made by the men in these tales of terror? I would not get into a business relationship with someone unless I was SURE they were qualified, trustworthy, and sensible. Being SURE takes time and background checks. Observing how this person treats others. Listening to how they speak about past relationship partners. Paying attention to how they treat the hired help, store clerks, gas station attendants, family members, etc. Do they follow through on promises? Are the flakes? Do they ASK YOU FOR MONEY???
I watched several of my male friends make big mistakes with women. It appeared so obvious to me that I didn’t even attend their weddings. Sickening. And they paid big time (most of them). Other male friends who married really cool women that they dated for YEARS did a lot better. Sometimes after a woman has a child or two their hormones go nuts and they become monsters. Seen this too. Not the guy’s fault at all. But by far, most of the failed marriages I witnessed had the signs that went unheeded and progressed WAY too fast to the alter.
Just blaming the woman every time seems unrealistic to me, and assuming that every other woman on Earth is the same is just silly nonsense. I know too many happily married couples, together for decades, that are doing just fine (as far as I know anyway). Most of the guys retained their alpha status, some degraded to Beta Plus. I don’t hear complaints from these guys and their wives seem cool to me. My experiences do not mirror the grave consequences I read about here. I have no doubt it is easy to let a woman, or another man fool us if we don’t pay attention and take our time figuring them out. But I have no evidence to prove that every woman is a monster – and I’ve been around.
If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?
You Sound Young.
Going on 59 years young.
…If you can make your marriage work i ADVOCATE you do but men need to be aware of the s~~~ that can happen and does which is no ones fault but greedy bitchs who cant get Benjamin out of her diet.
I read your entire post but this last bit really stood out. How do you guys vindicate all of the poor decisions made by the men in these tales of terror? I would not get into a business relationship with someone unless I was SURE they were qualified, trustworthy, and sensible. Being SURE takes time and background checks. Observing how this person treats others. Listening to how they speak about past relationship partners. Paying attention to how they treat the hired help, store clerks, gas station attendants, family members, etc. Do they follow through on promises? Are the flakes? Do they ASK YOU FOR MONEY???
I watched several of my male friends make big mistakes with women. It appeared so obvious to me that I didn’t even attend their weddings. Sickening. And they paid big time (most of them). Other male friends who married really cool women that they dated for YEARS did a lot better. Sometimes after a woman has a child or two their hormones go nuts and they become monsters. Seen this too. Not the guy’s fault at all. But by far, most of the failed marriages I witnessed had the signs that went unheeded and progressed WAY too fast to the alter.
Just blaming the woman every time seems unrealistic to me, and assuming that every other woman on Earth is the same is just silly nonsense. I know too many happily married couples, together for decades, that are doing just fine (as far as I know anyway). Most of the guys retained their alpha status, some degraded to Beta Plus. I don’t hear complaints from these guys and their wives seem cool to me. My experiences do not mirror the grave consequences I read about here. I have no doubt it is easy to let a woman, or another man fool us if we don’t pay attention and take our time figuring them out.
Heres what your missing in that chain link, Femminism , an IDEOLOGY that TARGETED women in mass, in total, of an entire generation that embraced it based on Gender..
Where does the Concept of a good relationship come from, Expectations and femminism gave them alot..
Heres where the Issue lies with you. “poor Decisions” as if you cant choose a femminist.relating relationships to buisness issues is sensical only if you treat them like a buisness.
Essentially, femminism changed the expectations of Women and impacted what type of relationship a man can expect with a Modern Women.The Majority of relationships fall under this Model hence the divorce rate hence them not being poor decisions but the only one. I want to get a Point across Now why MGTOW exist. Because you cant have a relationship with someone who is INDEPENDENT INDEED.
KM I was going to make a Glorious Post in the sene of Enlightening Joey about how Femminism changed women why we can claim Most Women are like that without seeming Sexist lol.Please dont trash the thread.
Theres much this thread has to Contribute in terms of the Forumns for the Young.
tuna
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Anonymous3Joey Brooks is an example of hope for all men!
After being born as a Joey Brooks, capable of detecting early every harmful kind of women, a young men should feel hope in finding a 50 years old unicorn after sorting out 200 other women. And the man has to be still be capable of saying NO 80%-90% of times.
THAT is statistically significant to represent hope for ALL YOUNG MEN out there!
We now know that a 200 bullets revolver with a single empty slot is totally safe! But you have to be flash to dodge the bullets anyway…
This is the message of hope Joey brings to young men of the world.
What he fails to point out is that only a handful of young men are born with Joey’s personality. So, their only hope is that there is is book called “How to be Joey Brooks”, and that THEY CHANGE THEIR PERSONALITY COMPLETELY.
And here is the crux of the matter. What Joey is saying is that YOU ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE AS YOU ARE, and that YOU NEED TO CHANGE TO DEAL WITH WOMEN.And even as enlightened as Joey is, he failed to notice what I said earlier: I have changed and I have achieved success, only to find out that it was a permanent soul-destroying effort that is simply not worth the effort.
You cannot change yourself from what you are to achieve a dominant personality that is not afraid to be what it is. Dont you see the contradiction in that?
You get to PROUDLY BE WHAT YOU ARE when you send a big F~~~ YOU to all WOMEN, to all SOCIETY and all JOEYS out there that say “you are not enough“.
I have a message to all women:I AM NOT A FAULTY HUMAN BEING, YOU ARE! I will not make any other self-destroying effort just to be able to be around you. I simply do not see any more advantage.
I have a message to all women:I AM NOT A FAULTY HUMAN BEING, YOU ARE!
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"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long.
Men should seek constant development, not for a c~~~, want to be a “better man” to a c~~~ ? Just have more money ! Just that ! But everyone should seek evolution, everyday becoming better, in his own point of view, just see other mgtows here, they have more knowledge in life that someone will ever be able to get by his own without having all problems that comes with those experiences. You know why they said everything that they always say ? Because of their experience, they felt in their own skin, they saw their own lives and lives of those who they love, being ruined by c~~~s.
Accept that nothing makes a women happy forever, people change, c~~~s, constantly want more and more, constantly their self image goes do a new level, they just want someone who would die for them, without giving nothing back. Women are extremely unhappy in their lives, believe me, they need some place, some reason, something to justify all their bad decisions.
YOU ARE A F~~~ING IDIOT!!!
I changed EVERYTHING for my wife, and she gives nothing back!
Even today, she stipulated the amount of money I had to spend on her birthday present. That is 500 euros!I wont buy her anything! Because its insulting to determine what someone is going to “offer” you. But dont worry, she will buy it herself and I will pay.
My problem is not keeping the woman, but getting ride of her! You dumb f~~~!
I guess you have found a magic trick, probably violence with that baseball bat of yours!
Because I tried everything, EVERYTHING, YOU MORON!
Nothing worked! I had enough of the whole gender and mangina idiots like you.And I am one of the Lucky ones. My brothers that where homeless, after busting their backs working for their families, dont deserve to ear your IDIOTIC INSULTS. Go f~~~ yourself, until that unicorn of yours f~~~s you completely.
Now get the hell out of here!
I been there brother ! I tried really hard to make things happen, and it just bring me frustration, tried with several c~~~s, several times, statistically speaking, it was a 0% success rate. Then I saw that it was too much easier just to pump and dump, because at least you are free from those frustrations, and keep the sex, but after a while, c~~~s become annoying as f~~~, so slowly I started to talk to them only when I need something from them, as they always do with men.
I pumped’n dumped several c~~~s that were married, what was their excuses ? They were “unhappy”, that’s it, they try to justify their acts with the fact that they are a pure mess. Just after starting to pump’n dump married women, that my eyes were fully opened, several of those c~~~s have the perfect life that any women would dream to have, married, a GOOD husband, someone who even having a good paying job, sharing half of his pay check with the c~~~, and helped her with house chores ! No, I’m not a good looking guy, either I’m the nice guy to talk to type, that justifies that c~~~s just want feel the power of having a lot of dicks, and that’s it ! Doesn’t matter if her husband hit her or not, in her eyes, everything is the same, and she will ALWAYS DESERVE MORE, and everything is justifiable because of that.
And brother, for 500 euros, you would be able to f~~~ two perfect 10 hookers here, a threesome that you would remember forever, and the best ? After that you won’t have to worry with alimony !
And that’s the point brother, in your situation, is harder to get rid of them ! You are a “good man”, you have money, have a job, those things make c~~~s want to stay. Some wise men said once, I can’t remember his name, but his quote was:
you don’t pay a whore for sex, you pay them to leave after the sex
Hope that you were able to handle the situation well brother ! And get rid of her with the minimum possible loss and trouble !
Anonymous3Hope that you were able to handle the situation well brother ! And get rid of her with the minimum possible loss and trouble !
Thanks Solid for your words. You are totally right, my wife doesn’t want to leave me because she has all she wants. If it was the other way around, I am sure she would drop me in a second…
In fact I dont care about the loss. If you pay a whore to leave and you only had her for some time, what would you need to pay to get rid of a woman you had for 20 years? If I give everything I have, I will be happy for the price. Because my happiness is not the money, but the peace and freedom.
That is the sad state of affairs for the likes of Joeys and all those that think it is hard to get a women. It is not. The hard part is to get rid of her!
Joey Brooks is an example of hope for all men!
Not all. Just the ones who haven’t given up.
There are a lot of really hurt menfolk in here, many of whom got conned. This certainly sucks. Getting hurt emotionally, financially, and possibly physically, all at the same time would make most people bitter and resentful. I only get this based on what I have seen a few friends go through. What I noticed my hurt friends have in common is that none of them were particularly good with women due to lack of time, inclination, or effort. Then “The One” came along, laid some good lovin’ on them, and my buds were certain that this was the only woman on Earth who would sex them up.
Some of my buds held out as long as the could. But then the con-job began. “I really love you honey but I think we should start seeing other people” is the line women use. My friends went nuts for a few days/weeks, then bought a ring and proposed. Of course the woman said YES because this is what she wanted all along was to use the crotch as leverage to get two little statues on top of a wedding cake. Guess how these marriages turned out? Same as any con job. BAD for the sucker.
The only answer to “Lets see other people” is: “GREAT!…there is a woman I been checking out at work/gym/park and I think she is a little into me. Call me when you get done with the other people and maybe we can hook up again.”
Then WHEN she calls, do not respond for at least a week. Do not answer the door when she shows up banging on it. Or yell out of a window: “Call me later…I’m with somebody right now!”
Yeah, this seems like game playing. But there are women out there, I promise you, who don’t dig that game playing s~~~ at all. But you gotta take the TIME if you aren’t into the Monk life. And I noticed that not every guy here has given up. This is why I decided to spend my time here. It’s the only volunteer work I am currently doing.
If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?
Joey Brooks is an example of hope for all men!
Not all. Just the ones who haven’t given up.
There are a lot of really hurt menfolk in here, many of whom got conned. This certainly sucks. Getting hurt emotionally, financially, and possibly physically, all at the same time would make most people bitter and resentful. I only get this based on what I have seen a few friends go through. What I noticed my hurt friends have in common is that none of them were particularly good with women due to lack of time, inclination, or effort. Then “The One” came along, laid some good lovin’ on them, and my buds were certain that this was the only woman on Earth who would sex them up.
Some of my buds held out as long as the could. But then the con-job began. “I really love you honey but I think we should start seeing other people” is the line women use. My friends went nuts for a few days/weeks, then bought a ring and proposed. Of course the woman said YES because this is what she wanted all along was to use the crotch as leverage to get two little statues on top of a wedding cake. Guess how these marriages turned out? Same as any con job. BAD for the sucker.
The only answer to “Lets see other people” is: “GREAT!…there is a woman I been checking out at work/gym/park and I think she is a little into me. Call me when you get done with the other people and maybe we can hook up again.”
Then WHEN she calls, do not respond for at least a week. Do not answer the door when she shows up banging on it. Or yell out of a window: “Call me later…I’m with somebody right now!”
Yeah, this seems like game playing. But there are women out there, I promise you, who don’t dig that game playing s~~~ at all. But you gotta take the TIME if you aren’t into the Monk life. And I noticed that not every guy here has given up. This is why I decided to spend my time here. It’s the only volunteer work I am currently doing.
Too much energy spend… better just say a NO, let the c~~~ go away and avoid any problem.
Believing that marriage could be BAD for women, just put the number together, do the calculations, and you will see how marriage and divorce works. Then you can rethink what you said, considering the numbers, and you will see that marriage is a win/win for women.
Volunteer work ? Seriously ? Tell me more about how much effort did you put into this site…
It’s the only volunteer work I am currently doing.
Such magnanimous, such generosity, such wow.
When the other shoe drops and you tell all, we’ll be listening.
Or if you’d like, put up an over $500,000.00 bond, redeemable here by anyone who follows your wisest of generous advice and gets shredded by the system and it’s your risk, not theirs. Better make that include, for the ###’s unknown real men, who’ve committed suicide, a Stephen King type clause wherein if a guy offs himself, you’re already contracted to be taken out by the mafia.
How many years have you been married?
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Believing that marriage could be BAD for women, just put the number together, do the calculations, and you will see how marriage and divorce works. Then you can rethink what you said, considering the numbers, and you will see that marriage is a win/win for women.
I had one female friend who would be a good example. She was a doctor and her hubby was a news cameraman. He decided he wanted a break from work and became a “house husband” doing all the chores, grocery shopping, etc. Well, this dragged on for years and years. Both of them were struggling with alcoholism. Bad. They just loved drinking. Some half-hearted efforts to quit, some trips to rehab, tons of drama.
In the course of twenty years of this drama the guy became very abusive to my friend. Verbally. I don’t think he was hitting her. The abuse was literally continual. But guess what? She COULD NOT GET RID OF HIM without the bum getting half of everything she earned her whole life as a doctor AND alimony for the rest of their lives. Her husband did the bare minimum around the house and spent the rest of his time trashing her verbally.
Finally, just this year, she killed herself.
This s~~~ is not gender specific ESPECIALLY in this modern era when women are often landing better paying jobs than men.
Volunteer work ? Seriously ? Tell me more about how much effort did you put into this site…
I don’t have tons of free time. Just so happens right now a slot opened up and I was looking for something to do when I stumbled across this place.
I did not expect mass appreciation here. I certainly do not expect any kudos from anyone because thanking me openly would likely create a landslide of abuse toward anyone doing so.
Also…why is there not an Ignore button on this forum? Other forums give users the ability to block posts from people they don’t like. Might be useful as I am not going to spend much more time defending myself around here.
If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?
Hmmm,
-his girl has a huge c~~~ count. That’s fine with him-preaches NAWALT
-says he’s a surfer beach bum. Almost apologetically. While the unicorn brings home the bacon happily.
– Speaks about prenups like they DON’T get tossed out of court on a daily basis.
– Came here unsolicited to “help”. (Stir up s~~~)
– Brags about the number of women he’s nailed, of course they were all hot, until “he” found “his” breadwinner.
– A little shaming thrown in for deflection.
These are female traits and arguments.
We got ourselves a TUNA
Also…why is there not an Ignore button on this forum? Other forums give users the ability to block posts from people they don’t like. Might be useful as I am not going to spend much more time defending myself around here.
Because, Tuna, we here have empathy and give a damn about preventing our brothers from being destroyed.
Hmmm,
-his girl has a huge c~~~ count. That’s fine with him-preaches NAWALT
-says he’s a surfer beach bum. Almost apologetically. While the unicorn brings home the bacon happily.
– Speaks about prenups like they DON’T get tossed out of court on a daily basis.
– Came here unsolicited to “help”. (Stir up s~~~)
– Brags about the number of women he’s nailed, of course they were all hot, until “he” found “his” breadwinner.
– A little shaming thrown in for deflection.
These are female traits and arguments.
We got ourselves a TUNA
this
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
Together living “as married” 16 years, actually married 5 years.
Yeah so was this guy, until his c~~~ wife complained that he still greeted her with a SMILE in the morning.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/personal/08/26/o.divorce.dreams/
So sell it someplace else. We’re not buying.
Different than many of you fo sho.
Then perhaps you should go to a “happily married’ forum where you can live your your delusions.
You are a fool that is either full of s~~~, or is delusional.
Both. May not even know it. We’ll read about it on CNN and Oprah Magazine in time.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Hmmm,
-his girl has a huge c~~~ count. That’s fine with himShe never had kids. I think this is what causes issues down there. And all the talk about banging hookers here I can’t see how anyone is all that worried about mileage on a woman’s body parts.
-says he’s a surfer beach bum. Almost apologetically. While the unicorn brings home the bacon happily.
– Came here unsolicited to “help”. (Stir up s~~~)
If that’s the case I now have credibility for being successful at everything I do around here.
– Brags about the number of women he’s nailed, of course they were all hot, until “he” found “his” breadwinner.
Did I say they were all hot? Don’t think so. Some of them were fairly plain. All 30 of them were cool enough that I felt comfortable going the extra mile with them.
These are female traits and arguments.
We got ourselves a TUNA
Funny how some of the Forum users, none of whom have ever met me, can tell I am a Tuna from the little information I have put out here, yet when a REAL LIVE WOMAN is right in front of them they can’t see s~~~. Isn’t that the focus of this place? You got FOOLED in love? Yet you know all sorts of stuff about some random dude after a few dozen posts on the Internet. Hilarious. So happy I found this place.
If you were as observant around women perhaps this Forum would not even exist?
If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?
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