Who you are Vs. Who you HAVE to be with Independent Women

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Let the Contradiction of the Title Sink in.

Because you’ll never be as good as a POS chad :).

Competition: because having an IQ of “5” and enjoying activities Like lifting, arguing via suggesting Physical Violence (because thinking is harder than forming a fist),talking with the common sense of a two year old but having the Confidence of a bull and lacking the Ability to Spell correctly are attractive AND… if not natural require practice.

Female Dating Policy and Restrictions

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General Provisions

Female regulations are apllicable regarding the decision-making hierarchy surrounding the “burden” of choosing Correctly(because choice is hard).The decision-making hierarchy implicitly requires a C.H.A.D(cheap heterosexual asshole “dumdum”) to provide stimulating sexual expieriences .The choice is dependent on variables regarding inclusion and exclusion reconciling the possibility to change a chad or accept a beta provider until Success in changing a chad can be accomplished . Y’know because when your staring at muscle-bound hunks you dont even hear what they say.

Change to policy:N/A

Ammendments: Bata-bucks

Chapter 2
Paragraph 1;Section 1

A Beta Provider is essential considering a level of demonstrated reliability while usually being physically limited by the aspect of not lifting weights.In this determination a Temporary , “non-actual” relationship is simple due to a lack of bulging appendeges that stimulate attraction.A beta provider is a temporary accommodation while pursuing a chad to change.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

i am who i am.
i don’t change for women. i don’t change for anyone.
no regrets.
plenty of peace.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Blue Skies wrote:

i am who i am.
i don’t change for women. i don’t change for anyone.
no regrets.
plenty of peace.

Of course! Absolutely. This was more of a loose consideration.
Lets just say Its ridiculous what interests women have in regard to the Concept of what a Women considers a man to be.

Considering that Communication is allowwing a female to talk 99.9 percent of the time for the Duration of a Conversation means you can be as dumb as a rock as long as you have bulging appendeges.

Go ahead ask them how their day was. Requires no actual Conversation skills.

Talking to them at all requires no Conversation skills.

Its a matter of whether or not she will talk you to death after shes finds your job title acceptable.

I remember a date with a women, my last date by choice.I said about 12 words in a two hour-long Conversation after I paid for her food . was Long ago. She wanted to go back to her appartment to f~~~. I motioned to high fiver her, she high-fived back confused. I told her it was nice to meet her and left. She wasnt at all Concerned about what I had to say after realizing I had money. outside of my Money I wasnt s~~~ Its why they can live without you but not the Money you make.

[experiencedParticipant]

I began lifting decades ago. The decision had absolutely nothing to do with women.
I’ll continue lifting, regardless.
The important thing is to NEVER allow a female ANY authority in the molding of who you are and who you become.
Many hate lifters, “You narcissistic pervert” “You self centered egomaniac” “You arrogant etc.”
Ironically, many females are the total destruction of men:physically/mentally/spiritually.

This is seen with runners/ triathletes / ALL physical endeavors.

The only thing you have to be is yourself.

FWIW: The vast majority of women prefer “the male model look” That’s about 99.99% strict! dieting.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

experienced wrote:

I began lifting decades ago. The decision had absolutely nothing to do with women.
I’ll continue lifting, regardless.
The important thing is to NEVER allow a female ANY authority in the molding of who you are and who you become.
Many hate lifters, “You narcissistic pervert” “You self centered egomaniac” “You arrogant etc.”
Ironically, many females are the total destruction of men:physically/mentally/spiritually.

This is seen with runners/ triathletes / ALL physical endeavors.

The only thing you have to be is yourself.

I agree In my early twenties I lifted for myself. I Weighed in at 350 with 14% body fat , 6’4, 22 inch biceps relaxed, a 55 inch chest with a 34 inch waist. I’m speaking from expierience in the way it nevertheless had nothing to do with who I was. Men and Women considered me stupid.

Its more of a even if you look a certain way nothing about you essentially matters to an independent type. It simply serves a Limited purpouse.

[experiencedParticipant]

350 pounds with a 34 inch waist is quite an accomplishment, IMO.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

experienced wrote:

350 pounds with a 34 inch waist is quite an accomplishment, IMO.

Long time ago, now I’m just a fat old Man lol. Everything changes. Ex Wife Emotionally tottaled me and at that time my Income to do what I use to love.

[Anonymous 43]

I love lifting. I love the absolute truth in lifting. Can you lift this and how many times can you lift it?

you cant maybe a rep, a set or a routine.

[Anonymous 42]

I have to preserve myself from these vultures flying around the limited supply of men meat.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Independent Women. Hah.

[Joey BrooksSpectator 29]

I haven’t really experienced this problem of women wanting to make dramatic changes to me. I guess the ones that tried got frustrated and disappeared on their own.

Now I will say that I married an independent woman later in life in our 40s (neither of us were married before because neither of us wanted to compromise much or give up our opposite-sex friends)
and she “stuck” because she liked me for most of who/what I am. Not all of course. Of course she tells me what she LIKES or does NOT LIKE about me without any bulls~~~ manipulations. It is my choice to comply, or not without fear of reprisal. BUT…and this is important for you guys who have not given up on women yet…I enjoy making my woman happy when I CAN. She is not wild about beards and I don’t care either way – so I stay clean shaven. I don’t mind shaving every day. I do not identify with my facial hair. I like my wife to shave her legs and underarms. This is a pain in the ass for her I am sure, but she does it because I like it.

I could give you a long list of things we do to make each other happy, and things we DON’T DO because we feel strongly about it. For one…I hate sitting in a movie theater on a beautiful day to be outdoors. She LOVES movies. This is what her old boyfriends or girlfriends are for – go to the movies with her. It keeps both of us happy at the same time even though we are apart. My wife loves watching the evening news and I freaking HATE that. So I plug in my earbuds and vanish to my office for 30 minutes to surf porn on the web (or whatever) and blow my eardrums out with music. Yes, it is OUR house and I have a right to some peace and quiet when I get home from work and she has a right to watch what she wants on the TV. When the news is over we get together if we feel like it.

Sure I had to date a lot of women to find this one, but point is…giving up would not have done me much good. I kept swinging the bat until I finally connected and sent one out of the park in center field.

So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long. For you dudes who aren’t so attached to your “Batman mustache” that it turns you Monk, keep swinging for the fences. Even if you never find a “keeper” the hunt can be a blast!

If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?

[Anonymous 3]

Joey Brooks wrote:

So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long.

YOU ARE A F~~~ING IDIOT!!!

I changed EVERYTHING for my wife, and she gives nothing back!
Even today, she stipulated the amount of money I had to spend on her birthday present. That is 500 euros!

I wont buy her anything! Because its insulting to determine what someone is going to “offer” you. But dont worry, she will buy it herself and I will pay.

My problem is not keeping the woman, but getting ride of her! You dumb f~~~!

I guess you have found a magic trick, probably violence with that baseball bat of yours!
Because I tried everything, EVERYTHING, YOU MORON!
Nothing worked! I had enough of the whole gender and mangina idiots like you.

And I am one of the Lucky ones. My brothers that where homeless, after busting their backs working for their families, dont deserve to ear your IDIOTIC INSULTS. Go f~~~ yourself, until that unicorn of yours f~~~s you completely.

Now get the hell out of here!

[Joey BrooksSpectator 29]

Anonymous wrote:

Joey Brooks wrote:

So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long.

I changed EVERYTHING for my wife…

I believe ^THIS is the source of the problem at hand. Women want you to tell them “NO” most of the time. Like at least 80-90% of the time. Then the changes you are willing to make mean a lot more to them AND you don’t lose your alpha status in their subconscious.

This is a great learning point to make for the young guys just beginning to be interested in women. Don’t ever date just ONE at a time, let them KNOW you aren’t dating just them, and say NO often. It’s sounds quirky I know but women lose respect for men who say “yes” too much and change at their every whim.

And try not to marry the ones that don’t like you the way you are, which means spending time in the selection process or better yet for you non-gamblers…don’t marry any of them.

If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?

[Anonymous 3]

Joey Brooks wrote:

For you dudes who aren’t so attached to your “Batman mustache”

Your only argument is a pathetic attempt of shamming. It wont work here.

You missed all the posts where we actually talk about facts and real life stories.

And you only have mustache and beards to talk about.

How about a statistic about divorce rates? And fathers that never see there kids again?

Dont you think that is more pertinent then facial hair?

That is how shallow you are.

[experiencedParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Joey Brooks wrote:

So for you guys who are determined to change NOTHING for a good woman, you won’t have any worries because you won’t keep one for long.

YOU ARE A F~~~ING IDIOT!!!

I changed EVERYTHING for my wife, and she gives nothing back!
Even today, she stipulated the amount of money I had to spend on her birthday present. That is 500 euros!

I wont buy her anything! Because its insulting to determine what someone is going to “offer” you. But dont worry, she will buy it herself and I will pay.

My problem is not keeping the woman, but getting ride of her! You dumb f~~~!

I guess you have found a magic trick, probably violence with that baseball bat of yours!
Because I tried everything, EVERYTHING, YOU MORON!
Nothing worked! I had enough of the whole gender and mangina idiots like you.

And I am one of the Lucky ones. My brothers that where homeless, after busting their backs working for their families, dont deserve to ear your IDIOTIC INSULTS. Go f~~~ yourself, until that unicorn of yours f~~~s you completely.

Now get the hell out of here!

this

Anonymous wrote:

Joey Brooks wrote:

For you dudes who aren’t so attached to your “Batman mustache”

Your only argument is a pathetic attempt of shamming. It wont work here.

You missed all the posts where we actually talk about facts and real life stories.

And you only have mustache and beards to talk about.

How about a statistic about divorce rates? And fathers that never see there kids again?

Dont you think that is more pertinent then facial hair?

That is how shallow you are.

And this

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 3]

Joey Brooks wrote:

I believe ^THIS is the source of the problem at hand. Women want you to tell them “NO” most of the time. Like at least 80-90% of the time. Then the changes you are willing to make mean a lot more to them AND you don’t lose your alpha status in their subconscious.

And you think I didn’t try that also?

In fact, before this, I was in a site where EVERYONE was taking lessons on that crap, from a guy that knew what he was doing. He was a lot better than you.
And you know the funny part? I noticed that even the most experienced guys had to be permanently on top of their game to control the insanity of their wives.

Someone called it the “wife whispers”, like Cesar Milan with dogs or something.

But it got to a point where I had to ask myself: why the hell am I the one that has to make all the efforts here?
Why the hell I have to be permanently aware of s~~~ty attempts to explore my GOODWILL?
Why the hell I have to invest in a relationship that she only attempts to destroy?

If you are born with that kind of personality, then good for you! We call your kind Chad Thunderc~~~. You are are free to get all the women! There will be 3 or 4 for each one of you guys, because NORMAL dudes are feed up with this batch of defective females.

I tell you that I no longer am going to change myself to accommodate sociopathic behaviours. I AM PROUD OF WHAT I AM.

And if you care to notice, you are contradicting yourself. Either you are unavailable to “make dramatic changes” to yourself, or you have “changes you are willing to make”.

You cant have both. Decide. You cant have the cake and eat it to. Only women think they can do it.

[Joey BrooksSpectator 29]

Anonymous wrote:

Joey Brooks wrote:

For you dudes who aren’t so attached to your “Batman mustache”

Your only argument is a pathetic attempt of shamming. It wont work here.

I am not trying to shame anybody. I am trying to save some youngsters from joining the priesthood unnecessarily.

Anonymous wrote:

You missed all the posts where we actually talk about facts and real life stories.

No. I have read a lot of posts, most of which are related to bad MARRIAGES. I am not a big proponent of marriage. It’s possible to have a decent marriage, but unlikely in the USofA.

Anonymous wrote:

And you only have mustache and beards to talk about.

I have a long list of stuff. Just trying to keep the post a reasonable length.

Anonymous wrote:

How about a statistic about divorce rates? And fathers that never see there kids again?

Marriage was the problem. Without that, a man (or woman) can generally just walk assuming no kids are involved.

Anonymous wrote:

Dont you think that is more pertinent then facial hair?

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

That is how shallow you are.

Shallow? How about the mantra around here that all women – all 3+ BILLION of them – are the Devil? That isn’t shallow? It is statistically impossible for all men or women on this planet to be a-holes. Sure, an f-load of American women are not truly compatible with any decent man but somehow they keep on fooling us as proven by the divorce rate.

I know an awful lot of divorced people, and for someone – male or female – to be forbidden to EVER see their children for no good reason is pretty extreme. I’ve never seen that in my orbit of divorced couples. I have even dated a handful of divorced women with children and never even had the discussion of banning the dad for having any time he wanted. Often enough the guys had to be reminded that it was “their” weekend to babysit.

If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?

[Anonymous 3]

Joey Brooks is a c~~~ guys, it’s not a man

You mean that a woman would lie?

Would fake being a man to influence us?

That she would say women need Alfa dogs?

And that men should date many girls at the same time?

<sarc>
No! I cant believe a woman would be so deceitful!
I would lose my faith in womanhood!
</sarc>

[NeroParticipant 1466]

Joey Brooks is a c~~~, regardless if he is a woman or not.

[Joey BrooksSpectator 29]

Joey Brooks is a c~~~ guys, it’s not a man, we have a c~~~ infiltrator.

Good one! Made me laugh!

So that’s how it works around here. Someone has some genuine input that goes against the grain a bit and they get accused of being female. And likely the next step is my Log On won’t work.

Just because some of us here have made some bad choices does not give any of us the right to eff-up the lives of young people. Sure, some here think they are SAVING them from the monsters. And I bet those people have dated very few women. I had a one-man escort service in college with 60 female clients, most of them engaged to some dude out of town or not willing to play the dating game. I had sex with ZERO of them and married ZERO of them. Most were pretty cool girls. My dating total is near 200 women and I had sex with about 30 of them (depending on what you consider “sex” to be). I didn’t marry 29 of those women.

So if you want a guy in here with REAL first hand experience in NOT getting screwed by women, I am your man. If you want to call me names, question my gender, or ban me, then you are doing a grave disservice to some – if not MOST – of the younger guys.

I don’t care. I come here when I have a moment to kill at work.

If you could walk through walls, would you still use doors?

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