When Your Mother Discovers You're a MGHOW

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

flailer wrote:

Because it is easier to accept the role of the “bad guy” when the TRUTH is the precise opposite ???? WTF are you guys thinking??

I love your spirit kid, but quite frankly, I’ve done my share of tilting at windmills. You want to beat your head against this particular wall, go for it. You cannot reason with most folk, they have their preconceived notions of how the world works. I’m not going to even waste my time with my people, even family.

You want to crusade, and rage against the machine, I won’t stop you. I am going to tell you this, YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME. You could be having fun doing 1 of a hundred different things. We live in a world filled with morons and sell outs, nothing is going to change that, not you, me, or even everyone combined at the forum. All we can do is live our lives for ourselves and that’s it.

Being the “bad guy” has it’s advantages, people generally won’t f~~~ with you, especially if they think you’re crazy. It takes a certain amount of intellectual machismo to be a “proper villain”, most people just can’t pull it off. Most people want to be loved and admired, me I want left the f~~~ alone to my own devices most of the time. When I don’t I go and find someone to associate myself with.

My mother has early stages of senile dementia, I could tell her my decision, but ti probably wouldn’t stick. I’d have to tell her again tomorrow.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[flailerParticipant 31]

In other words you didnt read what I wrote…..

– I was SUCCESSFUL.  (was not tilting at windmills)

– I still have my family.

– I still have my friends (including old friends)

To accept the role…. someone assigns to you…. is in FACT conforming.

And conforming is the opposite of MGTOW…..   It is being a Conformist.

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

flailer wrote:

To accept the role…. someone assigns to you…. is in FACT conforming.

Only if you give a f~~~…. people will always be judging you. Some will be right others exceedingly wrong. If the opinions of others mean more than your own you will spend your life trying to prove everyone wrong, which is a colossal waste of time kid… but by all means you do as you wish, as for me…. I’m ok being a villain.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[peterfaParticipant 833]

You could do it like this, “Mom, you are the only woman who’s ever made me feel legitimately loved. You taught me to think for myself. When I look out there in the marketplace, I find women do not value me, but expect me to pander to them. This isn’t how you raised me.”

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Flailer, the message I got was not that you should cut out all family members from your life because MGTOW is hard to explain. It was that if being around specific family members makes you unhappy, free yourself. F~~~ social obligation, and do what makes you happy. As for you “knowing” what it will be like, consider the possibility that our families are not similar to yours. Where your mother might respect you for making the decision you did, it doesn’t mean mine does. And it doesn’t matter either if a MGTOW finds it easier to just say “yeah I’m a societal villain” to his family who cannot accept his lifestyle choice. That’s because at the end of the day, all the words and labels are meaningless. Only actions have meaning, and a MGTOW shouldn’t concern himself with what others think of him. It doesn’t matter, all that matters is what you think of yourself.

[USMC0331Participant 40]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

She thinks that her verbal abuse towards me, my parents splitting over her cheating, and the frequent fights they had all related to my current viewpoints.

Wait really? So your mother wonders why you are skeptical about marriage after that? I would tell my mother hell f~~~ yeah her behavior contributed to my views on marriage and women. How could that not have an effect on someone? I think women (even your mother) need to hear some real talk. I don’t treat women like children, if they do something f~~~ed up, then I call them on it. I mean I’m always held responsible for my actions so why shouldn’t they? I know some people may not agree, but I have actually found that some women can be treated like adults and be told the truth. I had some very frank discussions with my parents when I got older and in the long run my relationship with them was better for it. I don’t expect them to agree with everything I do, and I don’t agree with some things they did, but we found a way to accept that and move on. I don’t live my life for anyone else, but I can accept not everyone in my life is going to agree with me on everything.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

I told my mother at Easter and her only comment was: “Well, at least you will be keeping all your assets.”

Yeah, that’s the point.

[TheOneWhoBeholdsWisdomParticipant 58]

This topic really sparked my interest.

I told my Mother straight out that I refused marriage due to all the consequences and how it favors women. After my statement I was expecting was backlash such as: “How can you do this!?”, “I WANT grand kids!”, etc. But I wasn’t! She was like: “That is fine by me.” It went deeper than that, my mom knows how courts can seriously cripple a man and that I’m not following into my Fathers footsteps (divorced three times).

I guess I lucked out? Who knows. It is my life though and I will live it for me.

Onto a similar subject when I do hear certain Mother’s push “I want grandchildren” to their young sons is quite scary. It is like their trying to control their young spawns lives as they have lost all control over their own lives.

 

[AkibarangerParticipant 37]

“You’re a bad person”
“You’re evil”
“You hate X”
“If you like X then you must enjoy killing babies”

These are just hushing techniques. Don’t buy too much into them.
The best way to deal with this is to simply embrace being the mustache twirling villain.
It has made my life a lot easier doing so.

But that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I feel like I need to update what just happened a few minutes ago.  It’s causing me to consider just deactivating my Facebook again.

As some people know, I was calling out women for their double standards (among other things) and trying to reach out to men to let them know we DON’T have to worship them.  One post I made I received a LOT of vile attacks from women on…and then MY MOTHER GETS INVOLVED, making a comment telling me in front of everyone on that same post to “grow up and get over your hatred of women,” and THEN she proceeds to send me the following message:

“OMG I’m really not sure why you find it necessary to post anti-women comments online.  Grow the heck up.  Real men don’t feel the need to bring women down.  What in the world is your problem?”

I feel so done with this stupid website.  I literally CANNOT comment anything without it telling everyone in the world that I commented on something.  It’s quite annoying.  I honestly hate that “live news feed” thing on the side where it tells people “[So and so] commented on this link” or “[so and so] liked this picture.”

Before deactivating yet again, I feel like I should reply to her somehow…she’s taking this “anti-women comment” as an attack on HER, and insinuating that I’m not a “real man” because I said these things.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

@Megachris%

sorry If I didn’t follow some of your earlier posts, Is there a reason you can’t delete your mother from “friends” there ?

I deleted myself from facebook, and can’t help you heckle the s~~~ out of them “girls”. Got tired of all the “social” media for years now, especially at this times…

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[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I could easily block her on Facebook as I have in the past.  I’m just overall getting tired of women on that site in general, teaming up on any man that dare defies them and shaming them for not being a “real man” or for being an alleged “woman hater.”  It’s absurd, and it’s getting quite annoying.  What she says really doesn’t have much of an impact on my mental state (this site has helped me realize I’m NOT “just a man,” I AM A MAN, no just about it), but it admittedly DOES annoy me.  I should shrug off mere annoyances.  This is just coming at a horrible time.  With me in my financial situation I’m in (which is now improving), I’m on her phone plan, using my cell phone under her plan to receive calls for better paying jobs out there.  The $11.45 I’m making now is just simply not cutting it anymore.  I needed a replacement phone from her, but after reading her message and knowing her, she’ll hold it over me.  No matter to me really, I just won’t have a phone to communicate with…and I NEED one at the moment while I’m reaching out to potential better paying jobs.  That’s my…dilemma right now, if you will.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Man that situation sucks… Im reading your other threads right now.

PS. There is no way to PM on this site right ?

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[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Not that I’m aware of. 😛 But it’s cool.  I’ll be out of this whole mess eventually.  Just would be nicer if the job I have a REALLY good shot at getting would get back to me.  Colleges/universities take forever (the one I’m working at now took a month, this one I interviewed for has been a month and a half, and they haven’t even filled it yet).

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

My mother and I had this brief conversation on facebook.

Mother: Do u have to swear on Facebook? And not all marriages are the same

Me: non sequitr.

Mother: you’re not suppose to swear on facebook and it is a man’s CHOICE if he wants to marry! In that article, it was the wife who built up the company plus she was in a good position before she met him.

Me – My posts are targeted at men, not you.

Mother: yeah but ur damaging yourself in the process

Me: No, I’m enlightened.

End of talk. Mother used the  NAMALT argument, and the usual gynocentric idea that a man who refuses women must be damaging himself.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

When my mom realized I was a MGHOW.

She scrapped the idea of a trust fund before she died and left everything to me because she knew I would never get remarried and/or spend the money on a stupid bitch.

[experiencedParticipant]

@casquetero,”The harassment happened for years, but they stopped about five years ago. They had seen what I always answered them – the current generation of women is fatally flawed and they are not marriage material. They see it in my brothers’ relationships with their wives.  My youngest brother’s wife cannot keep a damned job for more than 2 months because she is always whining and complaining about the jobs and the hours. What did she expect with a high school diploma in times when people with Ph.D.’s have to flip burgers? In 8 years with my brother, she had worked maybe 10 months total… She just got fired – again – about a month ago.”

Oftentimes relief may be found in fantasizing a Steven King type scenario. EG To sister in law, Do you really want to be employed, then sign here. Then, it is explained to them that if they are fired, for any reason at all, a finger digit will be removed and they will be immediately placed in another job, possibly a less desirable one – and if they get fired from that one, another digit will be removed. All fantasy of course but imagine, after 1 through x digits how they just happen to stop getting fired. It was never their fault, but now they don’t get fired………..amazing.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[InfinityraysParticipant 12]

flailer wrote:

~ You are right, of course, as everyone MUST do it their own way, and also with their own timing. And you must do it differently with some people than you do with others. BUT, if I had followed some of the advice here I would be VERY SAD, and alone, that I didnt have any family members still a part of my life today, this week in fact. 1st: I am MGHOW, and I allow my family members to disagree with me …. while remaining my family members. 2nd: I honor my family & friends with the truth — but at the same time I do NOT expect them to swallow the Red Pill whole. I know that they talk among themselves, about me. And that is why I gave you Guys the step-by-step, bite-by-bite, method. A way for you to share with others that actually listening to you – to help them digest the Red Pill. All the above said: MGTOWs go through rather negative periods. Will focus on blaming others (for good reasons that I see agree with — but doing so only drags you down into the mud with constantly negativity.) And now… what do I find? I find a thread saying to simply cut family members out of your life because: MGTOW is to difficult to explain? BULLS~~~! Because it is easier to accept the role of the “bad guy” when the TRUTH is the precise opposite ???? WTF are you guys thinking?? Isnt the Red Pill about seeing the TRUTH? Isnt it also about making your own choices, for your own reasons, not other peoples’ reasons (like letting them labeling you a “bad guy”) Isnt it about living the best life possible? Isnt it about accepting RESPONSIBILITY? So, again I ask: WTF are you guys thinking???? You’ll only talk and hang with other MGTOWs ??? You’ll cut out of your life anyone that doesnt agree with you at least 85% of the time? Never mind. Don’t answer me. Cause you should be doing it your own way. But I can sure as s~~~ tell you: Your way sure as f~~~ isnt my way !!! As a little kid I broke my hand, VERY badly. And the Dr. said I would never use it again. I would be one handed the rest of my life. BULLS~~~: I worked on it and work on it, and it hurt like hell all the time. But now I have two hands. I am NOT partly disabled. Yes, you guy SHOULD break away from bad relationships ! Yes, do it. But, to lamely accept demonetization from the people around you is STUPID. You’ll end up in worse shape than only having one hand…. and a lump of lifeless mass on the end of your other arm. There are a lot of damaged people in the world – MGTOW is about healing, not about cutting your f~~~ing hand off. **** Live Your Life **** Live it Your Way ***** Have Fun while you’re at it *****

Funny my mother would be saying that saying things like ‘Its a two way street’ meaning you always have options… thats form my Korean Mother mind you… who I don’t speak to for very good reasons… https://youtu.be/gnOUgACJaW0

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