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I very well know I’m a grown man and can make my own decisions.
That being said, I’ll admit that it’s a little disappointing that I can’t get my own mother to accept that I’ve decided not to get married. Of all things, I would have thought she would have respected my decision. I believe she found out after reading Facebook comments I left on various news pages and other links that showed their obvious gynocentrism. I normally comment “if this were a man, people would be calling for his head”, or comments of that nature.
She said she felt at fault for me being so “anti-female.” I essentially told her it’s the gynocentric society that has made me the way I am. She thinks that her verbal abuse towards me, my parents splitting over her cheating, and the frequent fights they had all related to my current viewpoints. Surprisingly, she didn’t necessarily lash out and attack me for it, she merely voiced her disappointment in my choice.
Has anyone else had their mother (or even father, for that matter) have them call you “anti-woman” for this decision? I’m a caring person for my family, but when I feel like I’m being seen as a villain for my choices, I’ll admit it hurts a little. I’m trying not to let my emotions override my logic, but I suppose my family knows how to hit my “weaker” points.
Just accept being a villain, it’s quick, simple, and shuts people up. When they say you’re just angry with women, just nod and agree, then go away.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
I’ve never had a problem being called a villain before, I suppose it doesn’t hurt me now.
It’s just a shame that a family that normally has the same thought and logic as I do are so unwilling to see the gynocentrism of society today.
As it happens, villains have their own blog. Here ya go! http://thepropervillains.com/
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Has anyone else had their mother (or even father, for that matter) have them call you “anti-woman” for this decision?
No, neither of my parents have ever called me anti-female or whatever. The only thing my mom has ever expressed disapproval over is my lack of religious faith. I think part of it is my mom knows I put a lot of thought with making major decisions, thereby I must have good reasons for not getting married or wanting kids. The other part I think is my older brother is married and has kids, and it’s far from being an idyllic situation for my mom. Her oldest son (my brother) is no longer the same energetic and friendly guy when he was single. He’s tired a lot of the time, and he doesn’t talk as much as before during family gatherings. He seems like he almost always has to get permission first from the wife before making decisions. When I call my mom, it’s usually just to talk or make plans to do something together. When he calls mom, it’s not uncommon for him to be asking her to do babysitter duty so he and his wife can go out and get a break from the kids. Even though my mom loves her grandchildren, babysitting is frequently an exhausting task for her. I’m sure she appreciates how she can talk to me without distraction from a small child screaming in the background for attention. She’s even told me she hopes he and his wife don’t have anymore kids. It’s probably a relief rather than a disappointment for my mom that I’m not following my brother’s footsteps.
Anonymous11Being caste the villain is a function of where you are versus the orthodoxy. At one point in my life, I thought there was something wrong with me which was why I had not ever found that special woman. Now, the Internet has brought us all together to realize and reinforce to us that we’re not the problem. They are the problem.
As radical as it sounds, most people either cannot see gynocentrism or even worse applaud it. This is all due to the controlled media implementing a gynocentric agenda with full spectrum dominance of all allowed thought. Your mom just cannot understand as she has never been allowed a reference to even understand it so accept it and feel no shame.My mom came from an older generation where most women had true femininity and honor. The sluts were shamed and not celebrated as they are today. If she were alive today, she’d understand us and agree with nearly everything we say here at MGTOW except for our colorful language. She accepted my choice to remain single as she had born full witness to the meat grinder my relations~~~s with various women had been over the years. Of course, the events that turned me fully MGHOW happened after her death, but I know she’d fully understand.
Walk your own path.
My parents are still digesting the idea that their oldest son has NO PLANS on marrying or having kids. But they are having some progress.
For many years, they believed I was gay because I had never brought a girlfriend to meet them. Even when I was in college (living away from them), they would show up earlier than expected to visit me in the apartment I was sharing with other guys and would check for signs of female presence (they almost got a glimpse of a former GF once). My mother still makes comments about not wanting to die without seeing me married – to which I answer than then she will live more than a thousand years because it’s not happening soon (btw, she’s just 66). Ironically, it has being more difficult for my father to accept the reality, since he feels our “family name” deserves to continue – they have two granddaughters – even when our last name is a common Latin American one.
The harassment happened for years, but they stopped about five years ago. They had seen what I always answered them – the current generation of women is fatally flawed and they are not marriage material. They see it in my brothers’ relationships with their wives. My youngest brother’s wife cannot keep a damned job for more than 2 months because she is always whining and complaining about the jobs and the hours. What did she expect with a high school diploma in times when people with Ph.D.’s have to flip burgers? In 8 years with my brother, she had worked maybe 10 months total… She just got fired – again – about a month ago.
My middle brother got the jackpot – his THIRD wife left him last week. HIS THIRD IN 15 years! The first one cheated on him with his boss and let him know by a couple of photos sent by email. That after a year of relationship. Three years later he found the second wife in bed with a drug dealer at his home – having anal sex on a bed he had bought days earlier. Now, the third one left him after 9 years. I haven’t talked to him on the phone, so I don’t know what happened… but I won’t be surprised if she cheated on him.
I think that my parents are finally understanding why I went my way years ago…
Anonymous42“My mom came from an older generation where most women had true femininity and honor. The sluts were shamed and not celebrated as they are today”
Hey Pig, we lived in heaven compared to today, imagine having life the way it was before all this filth and disease became accepted as “normal”. Hell has a “normal”, and hell’s normal has become the nemesis of MGTOW, therefore we form a new “normal” a normal that your mother would more than understand. After all, destroying yourself with a woman is not “normal”.
@el Amigo, you said: “the current generation of women is fatally flawed and they are not marriage material”
@Amigo, fatal yes; the carnage in unfathomable, the human toll in suffering is tantamount to a living hell on earth; Our entire civilization is being destroyed by all these infractions over the spirit of man, and destroying the family along with individuality. The feminists will proudly wave their flag while the flames of their corruption consume them.
AGENT CATCRUNCH TROLL ALERT Sector 8 new member “MrsSubmission.”
My mother has dementia. She understands my viewpoints about matters such as this when I explain, but won’t remember long anyways. She cheated in her marriage to my dad. Something my father experienced in a second marriage.He figured them out albeit a bit late.The major female influence in my early life was my paternal grandma. She watched my dad go through this. Often she would tell me “leave them split-tails alone they are nothing but trouble.” My Mamaw as I called her was the first nawalt I ever new of. She stayed loyal to family over her gender. She would be disgusted at the way women act today. So the woman who raised me (Mamaw) would wholeheartedly approve of me being mgtow, as she advised me to do so many years ago. Mamaw would hand me a two gallon bucket and say to me, “If you fill this with blackberries I will make some preserves.” To which my reply was always “I don’t like preserves Mamaw make me some Jelly.” She always gave in and went to the extra trouble of straining it through a cheese-cloth removing the pulp and seeds. I still miss her and her blackberry jelly.
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Anonymous11MG-Tower: Amazing it is not? I just amazes me watching how these men submit to the destruction these irresponsible women cause. Then I listen to them tell me they can’t do anything. I call bulls~~~ on that. Well, I stand up and just refuse to allow myself to be destroyed by anyone man or woman. Did I allow a women to take my house from me when she asked for it? Hell, No!. Did I give her the thousands of dollars she asked for? Hell, No!. It’s really easy. Not no, but Hell No, and they just shut the f~~~ up.
Speaking of submission:
Where are you MrsSubmission? I’ve had real offline women way worse than you try to make me submit and fail.
Yeah I’m pretty sure my parents think I’m “gay” as well. But they’re just gonna have to get used to the idea that it’s not happening. There’s just no girls worth bothering with.
AGENT CATCRUNCH TROLL ALERT Sector 8 new member “MrsSubmission.”
Security: This is Rennie, we’ve got a security breach in section 8!
Thanks Rennie but you were a little slow on the draw on that one. Battle has already been fought, won, and wiped from view on the website 40 minutes ago. Special Ops CatCrunch and I took care of that until KeyMaster showed up and deleted her. The forums are now safe for men browsing and saying whatever they f~~~ing want again. So CARRY THE F~~~ ON and DOWN WITH C~~~ERY in all its forms. This is a men’s f~~~ing place. that’s right mutherf~~~ers.
I already let two of my “mothers” know that they can get f~~~ed. The first one (adopted mother) was bats~~~ insane… threatened to kill me at one point. She was a grifter, manipulator and criminal. Stopped talking to her when I was 16… could give a f~~~ what she thinks.
The second one was more recent… she (biological mother) told me that she disagrees with my lifestyle and that she didn’t want me to be her son any more. And this was before I took the red pill. Just walked away from that one.
Mothers are just as crappy as any other female. If they treat you well, keep them around. If they treat you like s~~~, to hell with them.
First thing to jump out at me, is that she makes your choice to not get married about her. Even when you point blank tell her it has nothing to do with her and everything to do with making a rational choice based on the current societal conditions, she completely dismisses it. She can’t even respect you enough to think you could have possibly come to any independent decision, it must be because she messed you up. And you are not a villain, nor should you have to be one. She is the one demanding you live your life how she wants you to live, which is ludicrous. You aren’t breaking any laws, you aren’t a bad person making everyone’s day worse around you, so why should you feel like a villain for simply living your life how you choose.
That’s what I was thinking, too. She’s very back and forth, though. My sister had a son at 17 years old (which is exactly what my mother did, had me at 17), and seems to be completely fine with only having him, whom she calls “her favorite boy in the world.”
Sometimes, she tells me (as she’s literally told me my entire life) “you don’t need to date right now. You need to focus on you. Do what you need to so you can improve you.” On the other hand, it’s “you need to find a good woman!” (To which I reply, “if there was such a thing, I haven’t seen it yet.”)
I told her how I may not get married and have kids a while back, I believe about a year ago. One reaction was “well, then you better get that vasectomy soon!” The other was “But I want to have more grandbabies to spoil!”
This is the same person who told me that, unlike my sister, if I needed help raising my child, she wouldn’t be there for me and I’d have to do it all on my own.
It was only this Sunday that she started using the term “anti-woman” and how those viewpoints worry her.
All I could say was:
I essentially told her it’s the gynocentric society that has made me the way I am.
I understand that and everything else you said.
But a MGTOW (you) don’t have to be a product of your environment anymore.
You’ve been that already. Now, your environment is going to be a product of you.This is something you can be very open about – and it’s really all you need to make them understand.
Let them think about it.They want you to be a product of your environment – BADLY.
So any pushback will not be met with enthusiasm.Gynocentric society hasn’t “made you who you are”. Gynocentric society has failed at that!. You succeeded at escaping it. If you were the henpecked husband who was cuckholded and and you went to work for 40 years oblivious to all of it while your wife was f~~~ing her boyfriend in your house and you kinda already knew it …. then you could say: “gynocentric society that has made me the way I am”.
Something stopped you from becoming that.
Your mother still wants you to be a product of your environment. So does mine. My mother knows “I am working on a men’s interest website” and I tell her little bits. But she is aware of my attitude. I was never afraid to tell her “I couldn’t stand being married because I don’t tolerate nagging”. She knows that. I couldn’t stand it as a kid either.
She knows I would NEVER be the henpecked husband. In fact, she often describes other husbands as “washlappen” which is a german word for “washcloth”….. meaning, his wife uses him to wash her hands. And, I have commented on the way some of the husband in my family are some of the most whipped examples I have seen to date. Their wives are lazy, do nothing, bark orders, and its the most disgusting sight, She has agreed and understands. My father would never have tolerated any of that. He would be sick to see it too.
But if she looked up MGTOW.COM , even for what it stands for, i think she would be very proud and impressed…. but disappointed underneath it because the red pill is hard when you WANT to swallow it. So for people who don’t, it can be harsh. She is a woman after all. And she still plays with doll houses and miniatures for a hobby.
I am a product of her. To be anything else would be hard for her to imagine or accept.
I can’t fault her for that.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous42I was never afraid to tell her “I couldn’t stand being married because I don’t tolerate nagging”. She knows that. I couldn’t stand it as a kid either.
I have the same disposition as you Key, My mother was in her place, and she knew it, it’s something that was passed down from my grandfather, He had the emotions of a stone. Not a bad guy, a man in absolute control of himself, and his family.
My mother always knew, I did what I wanted to do, my father let us run free, we had NO unreasonable restrictions. Women protect their children, men expose their children.
What I mean by expose, at 11 years old I was working with a 60 yo man, he was a coach builder from the 1930’s, he built diner cars, diners, and Motor Coach (Bus) My father hired him for his experience working with aluminum riveted panels, He tough me how to work the panels into shape by riveting sequence, like wrapping something with tinfoil and avoiding creases and buckling. Only 11yrs old. At home my father let me use his power tools, including a table saw, radial arm, and curricular saw. My mother bit her nails. By 15yrs old I was rewiring the basement and turning it into a club house, with pool table, air hockey, stereo, and bar. I was also spending weekends clearing land with him using a chainsaw.
It’s no wonder so many young men today have wasted away, being protected from responsibility. They have been raised by women without a man, boys need men to encourage them to do anything in the world, and that they could, only if they try.
I still have all my fingers today.
My mom discovered that I was going my own way YEARS ago.
But because of her bulls~~~, narcissistic, bipolar, multiple-personality disorders, she has this real Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde act going on and can’t make up her own f~~~ing mind about what to think.
One day, she will be contacting me on the phone and saying, “All right! You better realize that you need to get your own s~~~ done and live your life, and you don’t need to live it by taking care of a woman. Good for you!” Then within the next day or two, she’ll be reminded that my younger sister won’t even let her see my sister’s kids anymore, and that my older sister never invited her to her wedding when she got married last August, and she’ll call me in a fury, calling me “selfish” for not wanting to get married and denying her a daughter-in-law and grandkids. When she did this for the first time, I asked, “Why would you assume that IF I was stupid enough to get married, you’d even be ALLOWED to meet my wife and my kids later on? I know how you behave and I would be a pretty s~~~ty husband and father to let you spread that bulls~~~ to any family that I’d ever want to raise. So guess what? Whether I get married or not, YOU LOSE, because you wouldn’t be playing any kind of role in my life.”
She hung up on me for that. But every now and then, she calls me to approve of my MGTOW ways and then to condemn it, sometimes in the same phone conversation. And when I mean SOMETIMES, I mean 7 out of 10 times. So this bitch clearly has no real opinion on how I choose to live my life. Maybe she just wants attention because her fourth husband just dumped her ass early enough in the marriage so that he doesn’t owe her alimony, no other man wants to talk to her, and her own family won’t even acknowledge her existence. Hell, my grandfather died a year and a half ago, and he went to the GRAVE having disowned her with no regrets.
Funny you mention things like that. Sounds like my upbringing in a way. My mother’s mind will be in one way, and then another the next. I love the things she’s done for me as a child. Despite her downfalls, I don’t hate her at all. Same goes for my father.
My mother actually came by yesterday and talked to me for a short bit, and said she “sees the things I post on Facebook about women” (I usually call out people’s gynocentrism and female hypocrisy through comments on various news stations/articles posted there). She said she feels the way she raised me around an unstable home, her anger and verbal abuse, the way she cheated on my dad and is now between different men, etc. She has said this several times now. I assured her it had nothing to do with her (actually, the only things that do have anything to do with my upbringing are my many mental instabilities I have that I’ve been trying to fight for a couple of years now). She seemed a little more accepting and in agreement last night when I told her it’s the way women today seem to want to be babied and expect everything with nothing in return. I may not completely convince her, but I can get her to [partially] understand.
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