What's the point of being a nice guy?

[GrumpParticipant 47]

Arc wrote:

Talking about entitlement, makes you sound like every feminist telling me to be grateful for them taking advantage of my courteousness.

I’m not saying you should be grateful for them taking advantage of your courteousness. I’m saying you should be courteous for the sake of your inner moral compass. And if you are indeed doing that, then being taken advantage of shouldn’t even register on the moral level. You’re doing the right thing for YOU. What other people do with that “right thing” is irrelevant.

[ArcParticipant 350]

Grump wrote:

I’m not saying you should be grateful for them taking advantage of your courteousness. I’m saying you should be courteous for the sake of your inner moral compass. And if you are indeed doing that, then being taken advantage of shouldn’t even register on the moral level. You’re doing the right thing for YOU. What other people do with that “right thing” is irrelevant.

No, you’re just telling me I have no right to be upset when people repay decency with disrespect. Why is it such an unfathomable concept that this would and SHOULD annoy the s~~~ out of me or anyone for that matter?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[GrumpParticipant 47]

Arc wrote:

No, you’re just telling me I have no right to be upset when people repay decency with disrespect. Why is it such an unfathomable concept that this would and SHOULD annoy the s~~~ out of me or anyone for that matter?

If it annoys you so much, then it’s because you’re not a “nice guy.” It just means you’re a reasonable human being that demands respect. Because nice guys don’t last long, and it’s best that you get rid of that label as quickly as you can.

And that’s what I’ve been getting at. You’re not a “nice guy.” And there’s nothing wrong with that, you just need to accept that and become comfortable with not having that label.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Being a nice guy just open you up for the inevitable opportunity to be someone’s doormat.

Never be a someone’s doormat.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Anonymous 14]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Being a nice guy just open you up for the inevitable opportunity to be someone’s doormat.

Never be a someone’s doormat.

I wish you could have seen this personally Brother and I always portray myself to be a gentleman.
This old bitch was holding up the “express lane” at wallmart due to gossiping of course. I was polite and before I did what most people do and simply push my cart ahead of hers.

I politely interrupted her running down of another human being asking her if she were in line or simply b/s’ing. Oh the c~~~ish attitude she gave me.

I took it in stride, paused 3 seconds then laid the ultimate verbal smackdown on that old bitch and put her in her place gentleman style stating I did not want to be a rude ass and cut in front of her if she were in line and politely allowed her to proceed thru checkout (after holding up said line 4 mins.

She had absolutely no idea what to do, say, think, s~~~, p~~~, vomit, etc. She stomped and frowned and immediately left the wallmart.

Kindness kills Brother. I truly believe she was expecting me to rage out on her and her plan was foiled, hence, she had no retort. It was EPIC. Even the landwhale cashier complimented me 🙂

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I wish you could have seen this personally Brother and I always portray myself to be a gentleman.
This old bitch was holding up the “express lane” at wallmart due to gossiping of course. I was polite and before I did what most people do and simply push my cart ahead of hers.

I politely interrupted her running down of another human being asking her if she were in line or simply b/s’ing. Oh the c~~~ish attitude she gave me.

I took it in stride, paused 3 seconds then laid the ultimate verbal smackdown on that old bitch and put her in her place gentleman style stating I did not want to be a rude ass and cut in front of her if she were in line and politely allowed her to proceed thru checkout (after holding up said line 4 mins.

She had absolutely no idea what to do, say, think, s~~~, p~~~, vomit, etc. She stomped and frowned and immediately left the wallmart.

Kindness kills Brother. I truly believe she was expecting me to rage out on her and her plan was foiled, hence, she had no retort. It was EPIC. Even the landwhale cashier complimented me

Well done, Kenobi.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

because we’ve been brainwashed that being a nice guy is virtuous, and men, being honorable, are trying to be virtuous to have integrity and respect – both self- and external

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Anonymous wrote:

Kindness kills Brother. I truly believe she was expecting me to rage out on her and her plan was foiled, hence, she had no retort. It was EPIC. Even the landwhale cashier complimented me

I know brother. I am courteous in public.

I just don’t let women get close anymore.

They always have a way of stabbing me in the heart.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Sometimes you have be this guy.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Grump wrote:

@gnostic See, you and I just have different perspectives on the matter. You think that people should be entitled to common decency because it perpetuates a better society. I think people should not be entitled to common decency because it’s better to receive genuine thanks and courtesy than forced politeness. I would rather somebody be sincere with themselves, because that’s how you garner REAL and GENUINE change. If somebody is nasty to me, even as I’m helpful toward them, I can hope that, at some point down the road, their character will improve and their quality of life will improve with it as they’re given chances to reflect on our interaction. If nothing improves, then I have at least acted as my conscience dictates, which is still preferable to violating my conscience.

If people choose to twist my morals and stances to suit their own personal desires (thus validating their desire to not help) then that’s their problem, not mine.

Does your morals and stances include calling people who expect gratitude for being nice entitled assclown?

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Doc wrote:

Being a nice guy is a strength not a weakness.
Knowing when not to be nice is the key.

Legendary wisdom from the late Patrick Swayze in Roadhouse. Clip runs 1min 7 sec.

The answer, is no.

[ArcParticipant 350]

Grump wrote:

If it annoys you so much, then it’s because you’re not a “nice guy.” It just means you’re a reasonable human being that demands respect. Because nice guys don’t last long, and it’s best that you get rid of that label as quickly as you can.

And that’s what I’ve been getting at. You’re not a “nice guy.” And there’s nothing wrong with that, you just need to accept that and become comfortable with not having that label.

I see, thank you for clarifying that

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

MGTOW Knight wrote:

Being a nice guy just open you up for the inevitable opportunity to be someone’s doormat.

I’m not shocked about that. What really rubs me the wrong way is how readily most people will do so the minute you show anything like manners or decency.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

You’re not delusional and not paranoid. There is NO point in being a Nice Guy nowadays; you just get taunted, used, abused, and ignored, as/when appropriate, mainly by women. I am 42 and I am living proof of it. Through being a Good Man / Nice Guy for all of my life, I have never get one ounce of pussy, no intimacy/sex from women at all, not even a feel/look. So, bollocks to it, bollocks to women. Women are twisted users, maipulative creatures, and cruel people. I have gone MGTOW, Monk, and NFG now. Let the Alpha Guys f~~~ them and abandon them; I don’t care. Leave women to rot with their cats; both are nasty feline creatures, so they both deserve each other. Women do NOT deserve a Good Man / Nice Guy. If you honour yourself, you will have nothing to do with modern women.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

After 50 years I have found that there is absolutely no point. Carry on…

Sovereignty above all else.

[GrumpParticipant 47]

Gnostic wrote:

Does your morals and stances include calling people who expect gratitude for being nice entitled assclown?

Obviously, or I wouldn’t do it so repeatedly and adamantly. In fact, if you must know, sometimes I expect gratitude for being nice as well. And after that, I call myself any number of silly names that describe my frustration with myself. I’ll offer to carry a bag for somebody that appears to be struggling and they’ll give me this weird/offended look and refuse my offer rudely, and then I get upset about it.

When that happens I have to take a step back, remind myself why I was being courteous in the first place (which is to be nice, not to be recognized), and then move the f~~~ on.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Grump wrote:

Gnostic wrote:

Does your morals and stances include calling people who expect gratitude for being nice entitled assclown?

Obviously, or I wouldn’t do it so repeatedly and adamantly. In fact, if you must know, sometimes I expect gratitude for being nice as well. And after that, I call myself any number of silly names that describe my frustration with myself. I’ll offer to carry a bag for somebody that appears to be struggling and they’ll give me this weird/offended look and refuse my offer rudely, and then I get upset about it.

When that happens I have to take a step back, remind myself why I was being courteous in the first place (which is to be nice, not to be recognized), and then move the f~~~ on.

Good, if you can avoid people weaponizing your morality to your detrimental, more power to you.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Yep, I’m in this s~~~ to. I treat all people at first neutral to nice, as that is how I like to be treated. Then, it changes as I get to know them. I do not put up with their s~~~. I call them out and put them on point, always. I just try not to do it too aggressively as I do not want the cops to be called because I was threatening. One guy with a bunch of friends said to me ohh luck, Forever Done is here.. He’s such a prim and proper guy. What a good guy. Instead of knocking him on his ass, I took out my phone, went over to Sherdog and shown him my fighting stats. Told him to view some of those videos of Mr. Prim and Proper. Silence and they all froze. I hate being called prim and proper. In general, people suck.

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