What's the point of being a nice guy?

[ArcParticipant 350]

Don’t know why I still care, perhaps it’s because I have a tendency to ponder and reflect. But I was thinking about my lack of success in dating and wondering why I hardly ever had the time of day. It was from my best friend’s sister that I believe I may have found my answer.

It was her birthday, and her brother suggested they attend our city’s Oktoberfest celebration. They already had a friends and family only party for her the day before, but her brother wanted to have a day out with all their friends; she agreed. Her brother invited me and I was really looking forward to it. I even worked a few extra hours so I could get out of work early and get her a card. The day of, I arrived at my best friend’s house and he’s pretty livid. Turns out she flipped out and canceled the party. She was upset I was even invited apparently and went off to some wine bar with her boyfriend instead and dismissed EVERYONE (her friends included). Apparently, she thinks I’m “so polite that creepy and weird”. My friend was p~~~ed off at her, after talking it over with him I convinced him to at least have dinner with his sister to not make a rift.

I wouldn’t be so mad about this, if this wasn’t true with everyone. I can’t help but reflect on all the times women were rude to me and all the times EVERYONE dismissed me as weird or even went out of their way to be a dick to me, just because I was a nice person. It’s still happening, even today. The people that I manage go out of their way to f~~~ with me. They tell me that our company doesn’t let them have stuff like writing utensils, which was weird but not unbelievable (we do have a problem with the risk of miscellaneous debris getting in our products), so I give them the benefit of the doubt and get them a pen for the day. According to my mentor, they are just seeing what they can “make” me do. Just because I’m nice, people think I’m weak and then decide to f~~~ with me, because I’m nice…and it f~~~ing p~~~es me off.

What’s the point of being a nice guy, when everyone wants to make you bad? Feminists want to paint me as some monster, white knights and manginas want to make me a monster by puffing their chests at me and daring me to strike them, “non-feminist” women want me to be a bad guy because then they know they can use me for violence if need be, and f~~~ing chads feel like boosting their own egos by p~~~ing on me and dare me to fight them. It’s a real conundrum.

Is it just me that feels this way? Am I just taking things too personally? Am I just going on some paranoid delusion? Someone, let me know if I’m wrong here.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ghostParticipant]

There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy. Other like-minded men will respect you and will want to be around you.

Arc wrote:

success in dating

There is not a more degrading thing a man can do. Dating is for effeminate, pussy begging, simps.

[Anonymous 42]

Be a nice guy to yourself.

F~~~ everyone else!

[Anonymous 6]

No point in it whatsoever. They get the most run over, the most taken advantage of, they get s~~~ on the most. Nice guys finish last is a saying for a reason. Women make those “nice guys” jump through all kinds of hoops for sex, but a guy who didn’t do any of that will be f~~~ing her all day and night.

Nice guy takes a chick on a date, she gets a to-go box of food, and take it home to the guy she really wants to be with. You just fed the guy she’s f~~~ing. Stop being nice guys fellas, it won’t get you anywhere.

[DocParticipant]

Being a nice guy is a strength not a weakness.
Knowing when not to be nice is the key.
Play your part but never lose sight of your good qualities.

That’s the sad thing about this world it corrupts people or destroys their character through tragedies.
Don’t let it.

Remain upbeat, positive, cheerful and optimistic.
And firmly in control.

Buddha said – Do not mix with company that vexes the spirit.

So not just agitates you but makes you less of a person.

Just walk away.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 38]

There is nothing wrong with it. However because most people are assholes, they take advantage of your niceness which they perceive as weakness.

Fist thing for you is to be sure you aren’t being nice for approval. People can sense that and women especially will treat you harshly. It is a sort of s~~~ testing, they secretly want you to be dominant.

Just shows how f~~~ing pathetic women are. They punish the nice guy then complain that all guys are assholes. I understand their biology and hypergamy etc, but if they had a shred of self-awareness they’d see how mean they are to others.

Don’t go too far the other way – being an asshole. I did that for a time. It’s just another way to gain women’s approval.

If someone reacts unfairly to you, call them out on it. Have no fear. Women aren’t nearly as fragile as you think. And focus on giving no f~~~s in general, if people are c~~~s to you NEXT them from your life. Good people will appreciate you and it’s better to have only a few of them in your life than scores of c~~~s.

[ArcParticipant 350]

@gambit

There is not a more degrading thing a man can do. Dating is for effeminate, pussy begging, simps.

I know better now, but I’m still young. Instinct is a bitch to fight; that’s probably why I still care, if only a little bit. This is a pretty damning reason to just give up on all of that.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ghostParticipant]

Arc wrote:

I know better now, but I’m still young. Instinct is a bitch to fight; that’s probably why I still care, if only a little bit. This is a pretty damning reason to just give up on all of that.

I know how you feel, brother. I have been there and know how our biology works against us in this modern, blue pill world. You have to be mentally tough and think ahead. You have to use your sex drive wisely. You can use it to your advantage and do great things in life. Harness the gift you have been given. Don’t waste it on women or on the pursuit of them.

Find a higher purpose in life and women will cease to exist in your world.

[ArcParticipant 350]

Anonymous wrote:

No point in it whatsoever. They get the most run over, the most taken advantage of, they get s~~~ on the most. Nice guys finish last is a saying for a reason. Women make those “nice guys” jump through all kinds of hoops for sex, but a guy who didn’t do any of that will be f~~~ing her all day and night.

Nice guy takes a chick on a date, she gets a to-go box of food, and take it home to the guy she really wants to be with. You just fed the guy she’s f~~~ing. Stop being nice guys fellas, it won’t get you anywhere.

I think a lot of you guys don’t seem to understand, I know that simping is bulls~~~. I’m just talking about being decent. I’m just talking about being polite. Apparently asking if I can have a glass of water instead of just taking it, when I am a guest, is just too f~~~ing weird for this woman. I’m not even trying to date her. But me just being polite is the reason people s~~~ on me, it’s baffling.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

I had the exact same problem. No matter how nice I was people treated me like s~~~.

I think they hate themselves so much, it makes them feel better when they can drag you down to their level.

Best advice: Dont give a s~~~ what they think.

If they dont care about you, why should their opinion matter to you. Learn to please yourself FIRST. Others come second. You dont need people like that in your life. It will just drag you down, like it did to me.

I had turned into that asshole Taoist warned about. It will quickly ruin you. Lost 2 jobs because the “creepy” guy now scared the c~~~s.

Then I found this place. My inner monk is quickly returning.

Learn when to care, and when you need to NOT give a f~~~.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[ArcParticipant 350]

ghost wrote:

I know how you feel, brother. I have been there and know how our biology works against us in this modern, blue pill world. You have to be mentally tough and think ahead. You have to use your sex drive wisely. You can use it to your advantage and do great things in life. Harness the gift you have been given. Don’t waste it on women or on the pursuit.

Find a higher purpose in life and women will cease to exist in your world.

Ironic that it’s only when you don’t give a f~~~ that they come crawling, though it may just be that you become more “successful”.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ghostParticipant]

Old Buck wrote:

I think they hate themselves so much, it makes the feel better when they can drag you down to their level.

Spot on, Buck.

Old Buck wrote:

Best advice: Dont give a s~~~ what they think.

If they dont care about you, why should their opinion matter to you. Learn to please yourself FIRST. Others come second.

Great advice from Buck.

[ghostParticipant]

Arc wrote:

Ironic that it’s only when you don’t give a f~~~ that they come crawling, though it may just be that you become more “successful”.

It’s definitely the latter. That should at least tell you that you’re doing something right. It can act as sort of a check for you. Keep moving forward.

Onward and upward, my friend.

[ArcParticipant 350]

Anonymous wrote:

There is nothing wrong with it. However because most people are assholes, they take advantage of your niceness which they perceive as weakness.

Fist thing for you is to be sure you aren’t being nice for approval. People can sense that and women especially will treat you harshly. It is a sort of s~~~ testing, they secretly want you to be dominant.

Just shows how f~~~ing pathetic women are. They punish the nice guy then complain that all guys are assholes. I understand their biology and hypergamy etc, but if they had a shred of self-awareness they’d see how mean they are to others.

Don’t go too far the other way – being an asshole. I did that for a time. It’s just another way to gain women’s approval.

If someone reacts unfairly to you, call them out on it. Have no fear. Women aren’t nearly as fragile as you think. And focus on giving no f~~~s in general, if people are c~~~s to you NEXT them from your life. Good people will appreciate you and it’s better to have only a few of them in your life than scores of c~~~s.

Thanks, I can see why you have that name

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

Old Buck wrote:

I had the exact same problem. No matter how nice I was people treated me like s~~~.

I think they hate themselves so much, it makes the feel better when they can drag you down to their level.

Best advice: Dont give a s~~~ what they think.

If they dont care about you, why should their opinion matter to you. Learn to please yourself FIRST. Others come second.

I had turned into that asshole Taoist warned about. It will quickly ruin you. Lost 2 jobs because the “creepy” guy now scared the c~~~s.

Then I found this place. My inner monk is quickly returning.

Learn when to care, and when you need to NOT give a f~~~.

Thanks, I’m trying not to lose my patience.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

Also, when you are nice to a woman, all she sees is another guy who wants to f~~~ her.

It doesnt matter if shes 20 and 95 lbs or 400 @ 40, they ALL think the same.

Treat them like s~~~, ignore them, then they are either attracted or scared of you.

Cant f~~~ing win. Once you understand how cross wired their brains are, their reactions start to make sense.

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[ArcParticipant 350]

Anonymous wrote:

There is nothing wrong with it. However because most people are assholes, they take advantage of your niceness which they perceive as weakness.

Fist thing for you is to be sure you aren’t being nice for approval. People can sense that and women especially will treat you harshly. It is a sort of s~~~ testing, they secretly want you to be dominant.

That’s the thing, I’m not fishing for approval. If I was, I would have become a dick a long time ago. I guess it took a “slap to the face” to realize that people have f~~~ed with me my whole life just because I was kind to them. The reason I’m bitching now on the internet is because I think it’s f~~~ed up. I guess I just wanted validation that I’m not the only one that thinks it’s f~~~ed up.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Old BuckParticipant 3596]

You are not alone. I am not alone. I never thought I would ever say that.

A great burden lifted off my shoulders when I found these guys.

Lots of wisdom and life lessons here to learn from.

VERY GLAD to meet you!

Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!

[ArcParticipant 350]

Old Buck wrote:

You are not alone. I am not alone. I never thought I would ever say that.

A great burden lifted off my shoulders when I found these guys.

Lots of wisdom and life lessons here to learn from.

VERY GLAD to meet you!

Same, alas it really seems we are outnumbered >.<

Just seems f~~~ed beyond belief.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ghostParticipant]

Arc wrote:

it really seems we are outnumbered

It will only seem like that when you associate with “them” more than you need to. Spend more time on these forums and less with “them”. You won’t feel outnumbered, my friend.

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