What was an event that led you to embrace the MGTOW lifestyle?

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  • #63353
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    MgtowWave
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    I first had some Red Pill realizations in my early teens.Saw  most of my friends parents were either divorced or getting divorced and I thought “I will only marry one time”

    I remember telling a teacher when i was about 16 that women only want money so the teacher said all men want sex.

    A friend of mine came back with “A lot of women want the same thing”

    I admit I got lost a lot along the way and was very blue pill and chivalrous for many years.

    Been married and divorced and my son recently turned 18

    I guess the final straw was going through two more abusive relationships and then finding BarBar and Stardusk on YT.

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #65428
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    PoeMoneymaker
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    My older cousins schooled me from an early age, and I took every word to heart.

    #66913
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    Anonymous
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    Mine came from 50% personal experience dating a predatory woman. 50% learning about her ex-husband who committed suicide during divorce proceedings.

    His lack of choices. Her abundance of bad choices.

    I regret never having a chance to meet him. I almost feel like he saved me in a very superstitious way.

     

    #66986
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    Mana Knight
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    Best friend lived with a girl when he was in his 20’s. This is where I understand the term “pussywhipped”.
    It made me realise I would never want to live with a women.

    She would forever drift in when we were busy working ( we made Youtube video’s – sketches and the like) and did a stand up comedy act together.
    Demanding attention quite literally “I want a hug..I’m bored…”. And he would stop what we were doing and pander to her every whim.

    He had to promise her things like he would take her out when we were done etc to make her go away. I could see him so needy, so desperate to please her.

    She was a mega bitch and most women thought so too. Just a way of rubbing people up the wrong way.

    Essentially our very promising comedy career came to a close as “he was spending too much time with me” and she didn’t like it.

    I still ended up getting into a relationship when I was 25 (2 years ago). It was my first, so it was special, but we all know the mask of a women slips sooner or later….thankfully I never lived with her or anything like that, but after 9 months, yes 9!!! She demanded an answer as to whether we would be having a family together (3, it had to be 3 children…) and get married.

    I told her that was too soon for me to even think about so she put it on the back burner, but for a year after that…you could tell it was always on her mind ( and mine because she made it that way) and treated me with less respect, less care, less love…just..distant. Forget the initial passion she showed me to start with, that was long gone. Eventually she demanded an answer as was concerned her life was going nowhere (thanks alot….) being with me and NEEDED to know. I told her I couldn’t and didn’t really want children anyway so she decided we would have to split.

    4 months on she is still playing mind games with me…

    Never again though. I am done.

    #66992
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    Mana Knight
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    <span style=”background-color: #fbfbfb;”><span style=”font-family: ‘Open Sans’, sans-serif;”><span style=”font-size: 14px; line-height: 20px;”>”When I got back from Mexico and checked my text messages (don’t mess around with adding international plans when you go abroad, just get a burner when you get there), there was a veritable roller coaster of emotional messages and voicemails from her, the last of which said -get this- “I’m willing to give you another chance if you learn to work on your communication skills.” I laughed so much, I got to skip ab day that week.”

    </span></span></span>@Vector Viking – Of course! It is always our fault, not theirs, didn’t ya know? 😀

     

    #68498
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    T-Bone
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    Well I happened to see a youtube video of a woman attacking a man and it had MGTOW in the title so I checked it out, and couldn’t agree more with its philosophy.  That being said, I grew up with two sisters.  One older and one younger, BOTH extreme feminists.  Both have physically assaulted me in situations where I wasn’t doing anything to them they were just angry with men.  Both have made me feel like less of a man and it has been a constant struggle to try to please them and act like a good man with good morals but still be a man.  It’s as if they would rather all men be gay or bow down to them (this is my ego/emotions talking but I almost feel it’s true.)  My older sister is lesbian, and younger is with an Italian who can hardly communicate (I feel neither want to be with an American man and have referred to me as “the typical white male”).  I have had my own problems and am far from a perfect human/man, but I am working on myself and am currently MGTOW and seeing how the women in my life have affected my manhood and well-being.  On top of that, my ex girlfriend was very physical when she would drink.  She punched me in the nose once, in the b~~~~ a couple times, and threw a heavy glass cup at me.  When I finally snapped and pinned her down and told her to never come at me again, she told my whole family and hers and almost called the cops… saying I was going to kill her!  I was scared for my life.  Of course, when my sisters heard, especially my younger one, it was green light to try to bury me and point the finger at me as a monster.  Now I know you should never be violent with a woman and that is why I don’t drink anymore since my temper can get the best of me especially when i have a psychotic woman threatening me, or anyone for that matter, but it’s time women take responsibility for their actions rather than playing the victim all the f-ing time.  I love my sisters, but realize that their thinking will only hurt my ability to become a real man because I am constantly trying to appease them and not upset them or say anything that will cause friction.

     

    My intentions for joining is not to bash women, but to shed light on what is happening and become more knowledgable on the subject.  As men we are called to be the man of the house, the protector, provider and so on.  If women want to tear that down, then we have to go our own way and let them go theirs.  I hope to find a woman some day who respects me as a man and appreciates the qualities i bring to the relationship as I will appreciate hers, until then, I am a MGTOW.

    #68584
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    Bl4ckSh33p
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    Lately I’ve been growing more and more disgusted with this matriarchal society set up to screw men over, that’s what brought me to MGTOW. I come from Kenya, Africa, but have lived in the U.S. since I was three. In Kenya women have class, here they’re just ill-mannered cumdumpsters that act like adult children. It makes me sick to see how American society enables them to act like immature pieces of s~~~.

    I hate to break it to you, but what people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard Morty then it slowly fades leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are going to do it. Break the cycle Morty, rise above, focus on science. -Rick Sanchez

    #68685
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    Ancientwisdom
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    I finally remembered my breaking point! I had tried to think of the answer to the OP’s question several times and kept missing the mark because I was searching my memory for a singular negative event instead of an overwhelmingly positive one.

    I had made plans to spend a week away with the gf- and all the pain-in-the-ass scheduling arrangements and expenses that go with it. This was actually the second time I had gone to the trouble to set up this trip, she had cancelled at the last minute the first time and the whole thing was already a nightmare of rearranging (which with work and timeshare involved other people that didn’t even know her) by this point. So the day before we’re set to go, she calls to cancel AGAIN because one of her chick friends was getting divorced and needed a place to crash or some bulls~~~. So I tell her fine, I’ll cancel the plans and take the financial hit on it again, but I’m not going to reschedule anything.

    She immediately launches into this giant screaming and crying tirade, the kind where you have to hold the phone away from your head. I can’t even tell you what it was about because I put the phone down, went in the bathroom and brushed my teeth, came back and SHE’S STILL SCREAMING. So I put it back down and went back to the bathroom and took a nice leisurely morning dump, where I had a bit of an epiphany (ain’t that usually where it happens?). I came back to my living room and picked the phone back up, wishing she had reached critical anger mass and hung up on me, but nope! Still screaming. I told her that she can do whatever she wants, but that I’d box up the stuff of hers that she kept at my apartment and drop it off on her step on the way to the airport and that I was going to go by myself and hung up the phone.

    BEST. VACATION. EVER.

    With the money that I likely would have spent on her, I went SCUBA diving with green sea turtles in Akumal, went deep-sea fishing in the Gulf for a day, took day trips to Chichen Itza one day and Tulum/Xel-Ha another, made friends with a Coati, went rock climbing with a couple of cute Burmese girls that I met at the swimming pool bar, went to a goddamn RAVE in Playa del Carmen one night, (who knew those were even still a thing?) generally had the time of my life. Made a bunch of friends from the US, Mexico, UK, and France, and still keep in touch with them. If that wasn’t enough of an overload of awesome, I used the airline credit from cancelling her flight and spent the following New Year’s Eve in NYC, and went to see one of my favorite bands (Gogol Bordello). So that’s how my last relations~~~ ended and my red-pill life began.

    When I got back from Mexico and checked my text messages (don’t mess around with adding international plans when you go abroad, just get a burner when you get there), there was a veritable rollercoaster of emotional messages and voicemails from her, the last of which said -get this- “I’m willing to give you another chance if you learn to work on your communication skills.” I laughed so much, I got to skip ab day that week.

    This is such a good story.Did you have any final f~~~ off convo with her, or did you just ignore her entirely?

    Resident cynic.

    #70107
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    Mecklot
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    My brother’s death isn’t a meme, it’s not a f~~~ing event, it’s not a goddamn opportunity to post selfies with your friends because you had an opportunity to dress up. MGTOW saves lives, guys. Not my brother’s unfortunately, but it’s saving mine.

    Amen, brother. I’m sick and tired of people kissing ass in front of the camera. It’s the same s~~~ everytime someone you barely know dies.

    #72080
    Hilowh
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    I’m here because I wanted to find some answers to why so many of my male friends and associates are not only financially indebted to women after divorce or merely having a kid with one, but why these same men seem resigned, even apologetic in their plight.  It makes me sick particularly because I know so many women making killer money:  why are men still required to take care of women financially in 2015?   why do women have so many choices available to them to opt out of motherhood after pregnancy and men have none?  why does our government provide the legal framework/support to women to opt out of motherhood and provide nothing to men to opt out of fatherhood . . . in 2015?  why are most divorced men/fathers simply paying and not fighting back?

    I just joined today (6-22-2015) so some of these questions might be answered here, but I have yet to find them . . .

    -H

    #72106
    Mp357
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    I am also a new member. I just discovered this sight on a firearms website of all places. the article was relating to some poor dude that lost all his firearms over just an accusation of abuse. not a conviction.the girl dropped the charges but the guy still lost all his firearms. So thats reason number 1001 not to get involved with broads. good luck men.

    #73439
    Little Bird
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    I just realized one day that it wasn’t for me. Even when I crushed hard on a girl, I never had the nerve to ask her out due to my irrational fear of extended social interaction outside of school hours. No matter how hard I tried to convince myself otherwise, I could not be tied down to a financial sarlaac pit. Two years after babby’s first red pill, here I am.

    #73818
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    DJC
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    Ok so heres my story.

    First off it wasn’t one event, it was a few, but I’ll try to keep this brief. Growing up I was sabotaged by my mother, in all kinds of ways, I was put down, held back, discouraged. There was no sexual abuse or anything like that, it was all psychological. Always told I was “Just like my father” (my parents divorced when I was 5.) She took her anger out on my sister and I, but despite all of this I was a pretty happy kid. And I am a pretty happy adult. But from an early age I remember not wanting kids.

    When I started chasing girls I was looking for the validation I hadn’t been receiving, it was such a puss. My “highschool sweetheart” was a bats~~~ crazy beeyotch. She was like two sides of a coin, one day she would be loving, funny, wanting to f~~~ my brains out. The next, she wouldn’t talk to me, wouldn’t look at me, would just sit and stare at the wall. I thought it was something I was doing wrong. Long story short this went on for 5 long years, until I stopped persuing her.

    Then, the clouds opened up and the heavens delivered my a little pixie nympho that taught me so much about myself and love, this chick had me f~~~ her on the bosses desk(we worked together, her boss was her uncle) I nailed this girl over the hood of a car so many times. God dammit what a woman, well she left my life to move to Cali. It was probably for the best.

    I have since met a lot of chicks that made me think, “S~~~ she’s got to be the ONE! I oughtta marry this gal” but I didn’t, and I have always walked away thinking, god dammit I’m glad I didn’t.

    Which brings me to my current situation, GF wants to marry, I don’t, she is gearing up for an ultimatum, which is, “marry me or say goodbye forever” but I guarantee she is waiting until she finishes grad school. It’s ok though, She doesnt understand that it isn’t about her, it’s about me, my life.

    I visit MGTOW for a reality check whenever I feel my MGHOW forcefield weakening.

    The thing is, I’m pushing 40, work hard, good job, I have surplus cash, I have surplus free time, with each passing day I want to be married less and less.

    #74651
    Wolve
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    To me it was a combination of bullying and picking up on all the small cues around me from a very young age, the gynocetrism indoctrination you find in elementary school heck even in child playgrounds with adults watching over it is ridiculous! “Oh a girl just straight up stole the toy of a boy and the boy is mad, BAD BOY! How dare you get angry at her you have to share your toys” boy steals girls toy “YOU ASSHOLE YOU STOLE HER TOY, YOU’RE HIS MOM DISCIPLINE HIM HE STOLE MY DAUGHTERS TOY!” These kinda things all through my life made it kinda obvious although it wasn’t limited to girls any social ridiculousness but they were the main instigator.

    #91350
    Smoque2
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    Basically the more I learned about Family Court the more I said f~~~ that s~~~!….I’m a black male college educated with no kids in my early thirties.  I have also witnessed nasty divorces as a child.  I was raised poor basically in a rural ghetto in the south.  I was poor never really tried to get girls but when I started working and making a little money and plus i could do what i wanted(my mom was mentally ill and was out of it most of the time)that changed started dating and i went through the proper heart breaks at the proper periods in life….i started college became very popular through campus involvement and me being in the most popular black fraternity in the world didn’t hurt…I partied my ass off had lots of sex with lots of women I was making great money as a pizza delivery guy because the town was right next to a military base at the hight of the Iraq war(Camp Shelby MS) and as a party promoter…..i met an extremely beautiful, smart, black greek girl, we were a star couple on campus (at least to black people anyway)….and because society was telling me that of course we have to get married, I started to think of her as my future wife.  I spent the first 25 years of my life terrified that I would develop a mental illness.  I do not suffer from mental illness today but I can be an asshole and as an asshole I take 65% of the blame for my former fiance and I splitting up(I refused to be her future slave).    I did f~~~ that relationship completely up lol she very rightly split with me but we  got back together after i convinced her and then I cussed her out while I was drunk one night calling her a whore while she was writing my english paper…(I wish I wasn’t drunk that night so she would have finished that paper) and dumped her ass and threw a cigarette at her and then after that I convinced her to come back to me again but at this point I was a mess I probably was f~~~ing half of the freshmen in the club because I could get girls in the club VIP and all yall know how girls love to look better than all the rest of the girls I was f~~~ing top notch bitches and partying and drinking 4 nights a week but after my break with the my ex fiance I realized that I would only get married to a woman that makes more money than me. ….my current girlfriend of 7 years is the best I’ve ever treated a woman and thats still not very well(I don’t cheat though)…we moved from Mississippi to NYC do not talk about marriage she pays the bulk of the bills because she can afford it and she would marry me but I think its best we not and I NEVER DO WHAT SHE SAYS!….if she tells me to stand up I’ll lie flat on my back and I do what the f~~~ I wanna do other than cheat.  I don’t go f~~~ing shopping with her, I don’t listen to her female babble, I berate her for watching reality tv, she also is close with her coworkers here in NYC they occasionally goto a bar she wouldn’t cheat and if she did she knows I would laugh in her face and go on craigslist and find me a fine assed whore…but what she don’t know is the whore I find Is going to give me a sloppy blow job on camera phone for her to find after I’m gone probably pay the whore for a nice rim job too…..i’ll wipe my ass off with her favorite clothes and take pictures for her to find later…truth be told I love my girl I make an good living but she makes a great one right now… so I’m not worried about losing half of my assets….I have been a very bad boyfriend but she still sticking by me if we split up I would be devastated but I would also be kind of excited because I can start connecting with fat bitches rather quickly to get those nice sloppy blow jobs, rimjobs etc…eventually a fine bitch that I would be seen in public with will come along and I wouldn’t be worried about getting married or a longterm relationship because I know I will f~~~ it up, I will just enjoy the pussy and the routine of having somebody fine as hell to f~~~ again.  I will probably disrespect one of her family members or tell her very hurtful things so all in all nobody in the world is going to put up with my s~~~ like the girl i am with now….I also don’t worship the ground she walks on, she’s knows i was f~~~ing a lot of top notch bitches in college and that I don’t need sex to live…if she withholds sex she knows there is no tolerance for that…. really I don’t even bother her about sex much and every time she asks me something stupid like going to see a romance movie I say f~~~ no…..she used to want me to hang out with her coworkers but one friday night with out telling me anything they came over to sit around and talk about caitlyn jenner and stupid s~~~ like that…so I went into the bedroom even though I had planned on playing skyrim in the livingroom (I rarely play videogames)…..I texted my girlfriend and told her that they had an hour to sit around and talk about all the dumb s~~~ women talk about…..I waited an hour and fifteen minutes before I went into the living room and told them that I can’t listen to their mindless babble after listening to it all day at work…….I did this after I texted her a second warning text after 60 minutes elapsed truly I love my girl but I’ll never be a lame ass f~~~ boy with no b~~~~ like some of you dudes on here were but luckily you found MGTOW and got your nuts back, i’m a recent member(less than two months) you guys call it MGTOW i always just had the attitude that bitches weren’t worth dogs~~~ in terms of relationships based off observations….i’m 33 and i knew i would only marry up or not at all……. f~~~ that! i didn’t escape poverty just to go back to it because a bitch took my money I have f~~~ed wives, mothers, aunts, black bitches, skinny bitches, fat bitches, tall bitches…..white bitches, asian bitches, hispanic bitches and girlfriends most of them loved doing nasty s~~~ to me cum swallowing asseating etc so I figure I may as well let as many hoes have a chance to suck my dick f~~~ me and eat my ass (like a lot of bitches like doing my current girl is pretty conservative but as long as I don’t treat her like s~~~ she will give me pussy) as possible but that was in my younger days and except for 2 girls in my life I have been perfectly willing for them to be sluts because I usually don’t even respect them as humans I look at them like little puppies mostly if my girl holds out on pussy I get out of the bed and grab the macbook pro and then i come back to bed and  jackoff to porn right in front her and I use a good clean towel to wipe my dick off with and I throw it on the bathroom floor for her to pick up in the morning if she leaves me I will understand and wish her well and be heartbroken but I will immediately go out and find a nasty freak I’m 5’8″ which is short but i’m good looking smart, funny, and I have a clever tongue…with a larger than average dick that don’t give a f~~~ about most women’s opinions women feel real comfortable around me and they no I won’t blab to everyone so they sucked me and f~~~ed me a lot…..if a woman can’t give me no assistance she can keep her f~~~ing distance….sorry if this post is scattered its getting late grow some nuts don’t get married never give a woman an opportunity to cause you a set back in anyway think ahead, know the law:state, federal, and local…….pay for pussy if you have to…make money loneliness will be fleeting as you will see the casualties of your friends around you

    #91865
    LucidLeo
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    I love this thread and I am glad I am here. My story of how I found MGTOW and embraced it is a long one, tonight was actually when I finally became red pill and a true MGTOW. To b honest, I have had Mr Nice Guy Syndrome, the classic Mangina who sucks up to women. Last November I met a woman on facebook and I was a huge environmentalist and Sensitive New Age Guy, and a feminist as well (yeah, eco feminism). Well this woman I became interested in was a single mother of a 8 year old Aspie boy, and she was 50 years old (20 years older than me). I thought I finally found my “twin flame” and I quit the wilderness survival school I was in and moved in with her. The romance lasted barely a month and she kicked me out of her bed and resumed co sleeping every night with her son. It was the biggest kick in the nutts for me and I looked up “men do not need women” on Youtube and found a video by “Askluimarco” and it changed my entire perception.

    But old habits die hard, and I would keep talking to this crazy bitch and confiding in her and she would continue shaming me and not caring. I was in a bad position because I did not have work and I have no car, so leaving her house was not an option but I was considering becoming homeless just to get the hell out. I realized today that I cannot EVER engage her in conversation unless she has to know the info. I have noticed a pattern with her whenever I engage her in conversation, she ALWAYS belittles and tries to dismiss what I say, if I tell her I like air mattresses, she tells me she never liked them, if I tell her I like this kind of food, she tells me its not her favorite, etc…I am done talking to her and I will move out as soon as I can afford it.

    she has been married 4x and has initiated all of the divorces. She blames all the men and she never considers that she is the problem. Her family walks on eggshells when talking to her because she does not take any disagreement well at all. I am done with new age spiritual beliefs, I am done with women also, cant even jack off to them either. I dont find women attractive, but I dont find men sexually attractive either. I will be more active in this forum and I am glad it is here, and I will hopefully be on my own soon.

    #91986
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    Applejack
    Applejack
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    Nothing specific.  I’ve always known that marriage and kids weren’t for me.  I mean, there’s no logical reason for me to marry or have kids.  Kids are a HUGE expense and a HUGE pain in the ass.  And marriage?  It’s just a legal document.  What does it matter?  I figured that if I ever did want to have a relationship with a woman, we’d forgo the archaic practice of marriage and just live together.  That’s what I thought when I was younger (from about 9 to 14).  Then when I entered high school and saw what bitches women truly were, I decided that I wanted NOTHING to do with them.

    They were “meh” before high school.  But they really turned into complete and total narcissistic self-entitled bitches once they got to high school.  I just recently discovered MGTOW and now I’m really happy that I never gave women the time of day.  They’re not worth it even WITHOUT the risk of losing everything you have or ever will have.  With that risk?  I’ll avoid them like the plague, thanks.

    #97096
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    Cancerape
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    Will try and keep mine short and sweet – Despite everyone calling me a woman-hater and saying “something terrible must have happened to you” etc, I can honestly say no to both.

    I would say it was when I was 17 I first saw how women play nasty – me and this girl (Stacey) were flirting etc and she kept running hot and cold, in the end I told her to forget it and the next week she f~~~ed one of my mates….who then threw her out the house still in her underwear :D, he had a party the next week and she came over, I stood on his shoulders, got hold of her bike when she wasn’t looking and we locked it up high to a pipe on the side of his house – she saw it and burst into tears, I can honestly say that felt really good.

    By a horrible coincidence a friend of mine also liked this girl, I warned him off her but he was besotted, she messed him around like she did to me and it flipped something in his head, he smashed her car up with a concrete block (landing him in a lot of trouble with the cops) and he was never the same person after her – he went from being stable and reliable to unpredictable and law-breaking, this was in about 1999 – that guy took his own life in july 2013, was sad because for about 4 years in my life he was almost like a brother to me – I don’t blame Stacey for his suicide, but IMO she started off the illness that would eventually snowball and kill him, I often wonder if he would still be alive if he had never met her.

    Another thing that hacked me off with regards to women is that I have noticed it doesn’t matter if it’s a friendship or relationship it is ALWAYS the man that has to do all the legwork – I’ve ditched a friend of mine in January after 18 years because it’s ALWAYS me that has to call her up for a pizza and beer night, it’s always me that has to go to her…..the only time she ever initiates a text etc is when she has just been dumped, well I’m sick of always being that guy who is there for her, she can find some other mug now.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1213212/The-ego-epidemic-more-inflated-sense-fabulousness.html

    #97170
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    Mana Knight
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    It is funny. THe haters/white-knights/feminists, they all say we are MGTOW because we can’t find love, we can’t find relationships, or get married.
    The exact opposite is true.

    It is because we can and HAVE that we are here.

    #99712
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    FunInTheSun
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    Hi PufnStuf,

    About 4 years ago, I was totally obsessed with this lady. We were friends and I wanted her to be my girlfriend. I called her many times and tried to date her, but she was too busy to talk to me most of the time. She was always hanging out with her friends. Then she hooked up with a boyfriend and she let everyone know how great he was. I felt stupid for trying to win her affection. I was really infatuated and I didn’t know how to break the spell. She was very beautiful and we had a lot in common. I just wasn’t her type. I don’t know why I felt so sad and jealous during that time. I wanted her to make my life better, but I didn’t understand that I was the one who had to make my life better. I spent the next year taking some classes at a local community college. Since I was working & going to school, I was too busy to date women (but I did try to date this hot chick in my tennis class. I called her a few times & she flaked out on me.). When my semester was over, I spent money on ebooks written by pick-up artists. When I read this information and watched the instruction videos, I thought it was ridiculous—but they did have a few valid points about presentation, body language, vocal tones, and “inner game” (in case you haven’t heard of that term: it means you have to psychologically train yourself to believe you’re a strong, confident man who can get whatever he wants in life). I’ll admit that some of their advice made me do a lot of self-reflection and got me to understand why I shouldn’t do or say certain things during a date. In the PUA world, dating is a game and you have to develop a strategy to get laid as much as you can without being taken advantage of by women. Some PUAs will encourage you to act like a jerk when you’re on a date. I don’t feel comfortable acting that way,  and I don’t understand why any self-respecting woman would put up with that sort of behavior.

    Anyway, after getting my fill of PUA advice, I started watching YouTube videos about dating. I watched those videos daily and took notes. I wanted to get as much information as I could. I noticed that many of the gurus had a recurring theme: You have to be your own man. You’re in charge. Don’t be a chump. I also read an ebook about marriage. The author stated that it was important for a man to get his life in order before he gets married. I realized, then, that my life was never in order. I’ve had several odd jobs and did a lot of frivolous spending along the way—and some of that spending was done for women who didn’t appreciate me. So the dating advice and dating videos led me to Tom Leykis radio show clips and MGTOW videos. That’s when things really started to make sense. The most profound MGTOW video I’ve seen on YouTube was about the writings of Robert Briffault. Briffault’s analysis of women is one of the most powerful red pills you can swallow.

    There’s still a lot of MGTOW information that I’m not familiar with yet. I never had any plans for a MGTOW lifestyle in the past, I just evolved to this point in my life based on the experiences I’ve had. I’m going to remain single for now. I don’t know what my future will be like—I might decide to have a serious, long-term commitment with a woman—but if I do, it has to be on my terms. Deal or No Deal!

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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