What Is The Future of The Church??

[Mr.BlueParticipant 614]

Anonymous wrote:

Mr.Blue wrote:

nagolbud wrote:

PGTOW – Pastors Going Their Own Way. There is no church building anymore. It’s all fraud and fake. The only people I have seen giving the gospel, and the true gospel, no works non-sense, are single men doing it in a special way. No churches.

I will have to respectfully disagree. My dad is a pastor outside of his job. He owns a business and makes plenty of money from it. Does not touch the church’s income at all for personal gain. It is all reinvested in the church or to help others.

In addition, he is married to my mom but this may be one of the few exceptions to what you are saying. My mom is a very supportive woman and always trusts my dad to guide our family in the best path possible.

However, I do believe that a single man would make a great Pastor. No distractions at all and very connected with God. I am considering taking this route later in life as I have always been close to God growing up in a Christian family. Helping others is an innate trait that I have. My parents know I am MGTOW but not monk mode. I just don’t plan on having children or getting married. They agree that it is better to stay single than to be in a bad relationship. It also allows me to become closer to God.

Well since your dad’s a pastor, you can provide some insight into the question. How do you see the future of the church. What are the numbers like at your home church. Is there an even mix of young and old, or do the old outnumber the young?

The church is mainly filled with older people but the majority of people bring their children. There are separate classes for ages 6-12 13-19 and adults. I personally think that church/religion isn’t being exposed to my generation as much as other generations were exposed to it so the numbers are falling. I grew up going to church every Thursday/Sunday so it was a “normal” thing for me. For many of my friends who did not have parents taking them to church regularly, it is not a venture they explore or are interested in.

My parents tell me how it was such a common thing to go to church together as families in past generations but when people stopped doing that, the newer generations were not so inclined to attend church. In a way, it is social conditioning.

[Anonymous 6]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Every Christian religion has caved to feminism, and feminism is inherently repulsive. Why do you think Islam is the fastest growing religion? NO FEMINISM. Simple as that.

The Bible is quite explicitly anti-feminist, so it’s not religion itself which is at fault. It’s simply that the overwhelming majority of people who call themselves Christian actually don’t believe the Bible at all; at least, not any of the passages pertaining to the nature of women, the superiority of the single life, and the natural authority of men over women.

Go out and poll random Christians. Ask them if they believe a wife should submit to her husband in EVERYTHING (which is literally what the Bible says). If you can find even one, I’ll eat my socks.

The ones that believe that are already married. I’ve long thought that a lot of people who claim to be Christians were just Christian in name only. It’s gonna be some sad faces when the Lord comes back through here, and they won’t be able to lie to Him when He’s looking them. Their behavior simply does not fall in line with what the Bible says and that is why the Left is trying to get rid of any influence the Bible may have.

[Mr.BlueParticipant 614]

Anonymous wrote:

Mr.Blue wrote:

nagolbud wrote:

PGTOW – Pastors Going Their Own Way. There is no church building anymore. It’s all fraud and fake. The only people I have seen giving the gospel, and the true gospel, no works non-sense, are single men doing it in a special way. No churches.

Well since your dad’s a pastor, you can provide some insight into the question. How do you see the future of the church. What are the numbers like at your home church. Is there an even mix of young and old, or do the old outnumber the young?

The church is mainly filled with older people but the majority of people bring their children. There are separate classes for ages 6-12 13-19 and adults. I personally think that church/religion isn’t being exposed to my generation as much as other generations were exposed to it so the numbers are falling. I grew up going to church every Thursday/Sunday so it was a “normal” thing for me. For many of my friends who did not have parents taking them to church regularly, it is not a venture they explore or are interested in.

My parents tell me how it was such a common thing to go to church together as families in past generations but when people stopped doing that, the newer generations were not so inclined to attend church. In a way, it is social conditioning.

[nagolbudSpectator 674]

Yes I think I wrote that out wrong. I simply meant men in general. Its the man doing it even in the married house. Not women. The bible speaks of judgement when women are in charge… another example would be the Nazis, and how they had controlled priests and pastors. To me this would be the free mason pastors you see in all the little cities.

And cheers to your family brother. That’s very cool to have a biblical father and mother. Not that they are perfect but that they believe in Jesus Christ. Cheers brother.

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[Anonymous 2]

Things started to go south when the mega churches started. Coffee bars and capichino in churches. No singing hymms or a simple wooden pue. A good preacher preaching revelation. They don’t preach about it because it scares people. I haven’t been for years because of clicks and other social garbage. I want to hear a good sermon from the Bible and learn. now it’s about who drives what and what you wear. Jesus died in a purple clothe and thorns, I don’t think he cares about my style of clothing!

I’m a sinner far from any form of perfection. Could that be a big red pill to realize that and admit it? Great topic Brother Venom! I graduated in 98 and God was taboo to talk about. Then almost banned. Shootings really started because no one learns of a higher consequence, no accountability!

Church now becomes a Sunday Facebook posts for a few likes!

Carnage if you want some violence read revelation if you never have! It might make your hair stand up!

God Bless You All!

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

mega churches

I should start a mega church.

MGTOW Mega Church.

NFG.

[Anonymous 2]

Gambit if you’re hearts in the right place!
Churches are big cash cows, look à the big tv preachers. How many hungry could they feed with their mortgage payment! I pity them in the end!

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Gambit if you’re hearts in the right place!

I really want to and I may well do it one day. I just can’t stand people being misled anymore.

[Anonymous 42]

Church Cuckurch.

That’s where men go to be dismembered by the state and turned into beasts of female burden.

They do everything the Bible tells them NOT TO DO!

I have Church whenever 2 or more are gathered in his name, just like Jesus I’m a wander church that happens wherever it happens. No building full of hypocrites can compare to that!

They tickle ears and tell the people the watered down bulls~~~ poison they want to hear!

NEVER a bad word about women only what men should do for them, never a word about women serving men, that’s something they will not do.

Last time I went the women far outnumbered the men in attendance. Now more than ever I understand why.

The Church like everything else women were allowed to inundate and permeate is dying as women and their nature always do.

There’s a reason women are to be covered and silent in church and we’re seeing the outcome when they’re not…

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

There’s a reason women are to be covered and silent in church and we’re seeing the outcome when they’re not…

They will be covered and keep their mouths shut in my Church. Believe me.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

Anonymous wrote:

and even the ones that go are told to go by their parents, and don’t necessarily because they want to.

What do you expect? church sucks and alot of those dragged to church as kids got out of their faiths and became Atheists as teenagers and adults (once they actually read what is in the bible).

Even church aimed at youth sucks because they make an appeal to look cool for the kids, trying to equate Christian rap and Christian rock to their forms in order to appeal to kids who listen to it (why listen to whatever the church does not like when you can instead listen to the Christian version which all promote abstinence from the evils of drugs and sex?)

Anonymous wrote:

But what will the church look like when that older generation is gone?

Some churches will be forced to close up shop (like churches have in the past) but churches in the end will survive. It is not like in 2050 there will be no religion left as Christianity even if its numbers lower will still exist.

Anonymous wrote:

one thing that i think we all can agree on, is the the United States and the World needs more religion. The lack of it, surely contributed to the way things are now. Religion used to provide a foundation, now with less and less people going to church, i fear that foundation may be in rough shape.

Bulls~~~ what a load of bulls~~~. The world has enough religion with our thousands of different ones all fighting each other for centuries and the world is not becoming less religious as a whole just the western countries (due to actual scientific advancement and the freedom secular governments have provided to where being of a different faith will not result in death).

Christianity helped kill the west when its traditional (not traditionalist) values died and where replaced by the white knighted cuck values of our modern churches (take it from someone who grew up in the pews, churches promote marriage, being a gentleman, respect etc).

And when it comes to our foundation our foundation died alright but it died when feminism was introduced and forced onto society not that religion declined. The minute male power over women went out the window society went downhill and that was in the 1800’s and religion promoted it under their white knight values and pushing of feminism to get women the right to vote in order to ban the devils nectar (without women alcohol would have never been banned and that banning it promotes capitalism as if the husband is not at the bar he can buy her more things).

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

As a Roman Catholic I see the Church as the mystical body of Christ on Earth, in daily communion with the Saints in heaven.

It’s one of the most maligned entities on Earth, even more so in our secular times. But, it’s survived two thousand years and is a true bulwark against the degeneracy of our times. It will still be here when feminism has been consigned to history as an oddity as vile as communism, of which it is an offshoot.

My parish church is full every Sunday for mass, families of all ages, plenty of young people. Ireland, north and south, has always had lots of faith. I live in a village of 1800 people and we have 4 churches – RC, Church of Ireland, Presbyterian and Baptist. All are busy.

[nagolbudSpectator 674]

First thing that needs to be dispelled in this forum is that religion is not biblical. I think everyone here needs to read Matthew Chapter 23 and realize your religion is a big load of bulls~~~. Catholicism is literally satanism in disguise. I’m not here to start debates or arguments these are facts. Read your Bible and stop worshipping yourselves and religion. Believe by FAITH in Jesus Christ. Not your own stupid works or good deeds. And if you think what I say is false read Matthew Chapter 23 (KJV) yourself and see what a load of crap every religion is. The Catholic Church has murdered over 200 million people on record in less than 2,000 years. They are not a church of Christ. They are the whore of babylon. Sorry if this offends but its raw truth. Jesus Christ saves, not some stupid religion. <3

There is also this documentary, EVERYONE should have to watch it before declaring a religion. It’s raw history of Bible believers.

Untold History of the Bible

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[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

nagolbud wrote:

First thing that needs to be dispelled in this forum is….

You’ll find it a frustrating experience here if you come in making statements like that.

The thread was about the future of the church, not your feelings.

If you think the Catholic Church is XYZ then you could make your own thread about it, with a logical argument as to why you think it is.

You don’t offend me, I’ve heard it all before.

[Anonymous 6]

ghost wrote:

MG-ɹǝʍo┴ wrote:

There’s a reason women are to be covered and silent in church and we’re seeing the outcome when they’re not…

They will be covered and keep their mouths shut in my Church. Believe me.

Now i gotta ask, what do you think about female preachers? Now the Bible does say that a woman should not be in any position that is higher than a man. And the Bible also says that the man is the head of the household and the woman is under him. So how can a woman lead a church, then go home and be second to a man? It doesn’t add up.

[ghostParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

So how can a woman lead a church, then go home and be second to a man?

She can’t. Whoever came up with this idea should be nailed to the cross.

[Cú ChulainnParticipant 3910]

There shouldn’t be female priests, it’s not up for negotiation. This tore the Anglican Church apart.

[nagolbudSpectator 674]

The thread was about the future of the church, not your feelings.

If you think the Catholic Church is XYZ then you could make your own thread about it, with a logical argument as to why you think it is.

It’s not my feelings that the catholic church has murdered 200+ million people. It’s not my feelings that the catholic church burned bibles, hence the reformation and formation of America itself. It’s not my feelings that the catholic church is satanic to this day. It’s not my feelings that they have been exposed for drug trafficking, pedophilia, and prostitution rings.
^FACTS

In Matthew Chapter 23 it clearly states the difference between religion and biblical faith. It clearly states to call NO MAN father in reference to priests or pastors. What does the Catholic Church do? Call their priests fathers?
^FACTS

Most catholic men I’ve met are 100% blue pill to mother mary and their wife. Not Jesus Christ or the Bible.
^FEELINGS

There is a difference.

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[nagolbudSpectator 674]

AND NO women should never be a pastor or leader in a church. NEVER. They are terrible leaders and all throughout the Bible it clearly shows judgement on those with female leaders. Jezebel and Ahab is the result of any women taking charge. There is no exception. Women are not pastors. Women however can be a role model for younger girls. But never a man.

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[Anonymous 6]

nagolbud wrote:

AND NO women should never be a pastor or leader in a church. NEVER. They are terrible leaders and all throughout the Bible it clearly shows judgement on those with female leaders. Jezebel and Ahab is the result of any women taking charge and leading. There is no exception. Women are not pastors or leaders. Women however can be a leader or role model for younger girls. But never a man.

We have four of them at my church. I tune them out every time they are up there. My own mother doesn’t even want to hear them preach. I remember a long time ago, a deacon at my church would sit on the front row all the time, and soon as he figured out that a woman would preach that Sunday, he would get up, slowly walk over to the door, put on his hat and jacket and walk out the door. It was a sight to see. And he was an older fella, so obviously he didn’t give a damn.

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