What is a modern MGTOW monk and why does it appeal to some ?

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  • #488579
    Freedom Not Slavery
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    If someone did pull that s~~~ on me they would disappear, they would just go missing and I would have no idea what befell the little angel.

    #488580
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    There is no right or wrong way to do it. Have you seen this?

    http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com/2012/12/the-four-levels-of-mgtow-betas-shrug.html

    This explains it really well. Read level 4 first.

    Your own way my friend.

    Fuck this planet.
    #488583
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    Anonymousyam
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    MGTOW is monk. There are no babes at the end of your long journey to validate you.

    When it comes to babies it really is not your goddamn choice if you have them these days. You can’t force a woman to abort the baby so if you even make one mistake and she gets pregnant then decides to keep it you are f~~~ed.

    It is not that babies validate you as they are not either your intention or your prime goal (meaning if you have a kid it was her choice not yours you do not live for the kid).

    It’s ultimate introspection and a sign of a warrior.

    Lets get rid of this warrior bulls~~~ once in for all you are one mammal living in this world who the world could give a f~~~ about. Sure you rebel from the system but you are not a warrior unless you actually become one (then other mgtows would critize you for violence and you would be in and out of prison).

    You fight your battles of inner urges, social cues and pressures or shaming language.

    Pretty much by your defintion a true mgtow is one on nofap since mastrubating to women is vaginal addiction as you are fapping to some form of woman (whether it be real or a cartoon).

    If mgtow f~~~ing is bad because of the addiction to women then you cannot fap to any form of porn with a real or imagined woman due to the representation of them (it is like stopping drinking only to drink non alcoholic beer).

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #488584
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    If someone did pull that s~~~ on me they would disappear, they would just go missing and I would have no idea what befell the little angel.

    ???

    -SO they’d file the rape charge against you
    -they’d “go missing”
    -you’re now the chief suspect in a murder investigation due to motive
    -you have an alibi, but invariably a witness or traffic cam or anything will break your alibi
    -you go into ass pounding prison for life for 1 count of murder and 1 of rape

    this doesnt even make sense.

    "He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

    #488590
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    The problem is that today’s society allows women to pearl harbor preemptive sneak attack men. They can cause massive damage to a man for a successful attack (or even an unsuccessful one), but suffer little or no consequences in return.

    Even for an innocent guy, “the process is the punishment” as they say. Women know that they can cripple a guy financially just with the legal fees the guy would need to cough up just to prove that he didn’t actually do anything wrong. Win-Win for the lying c~~~.

    I know a guy who’s wife would acquire and study law books in order to stage a convincing domestic assault. She would then team up with her lesbian GF to work out details reference when, where and how to carry out the facade.

    And it worked! She had her husband jailed and barred from returning home for several months. As he was being locked-up, the fellow cops who knew the husband personally tried to explain that there was no f~~~ing way that this guy was beating on his wife but it made no difference.

    I sat through his court appearances with him and I got a good lesson as to how severely and horrifically convoluted and f~~~ed-up our justice system actually is.

    Several weeks later the same women tried to have me jailed using a similar stunt. I didn’t figure out what was going down or how I was being set-up until it was all over.

    Luckily for me the two attending cops had one functioning brain cell between them and they saw the set-up for what it was.

    But it was a close call for a while there. They warned me that I could have been charged.

    The bottom line I guess is that most guys really need to experience this kinda s~~~ first-hand before they will believe that this is exactly what many women can and will do…

    #488597
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    Autolite
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    SO they’d file the rape charge against you
    -they’d “go missing”
    -you’re now the chief suspect in a murder investigation due to motive
    -you have an alibi, but invariably a witness or traffic cam or anything will break your alibi
    -you go into ass pounding prison for life for 1 count of murder and 1 of rape

    this doesnt even make sense.

    You ought to copy-write that post. It might make a good “CSI MGTOW” episode..

    #488641
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    There is a bro on here who hasn’t wanked in nine years . I was shocked . Can’t remember his name . He hasn’t been on in a bit

    Maybe he’s making up for lost time.

    #488656
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    Sandals
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    Monk is easy. Its as easy as don’t poke the alligator with a short stick.

    Unless you can get your entire stick all the way inside the alligator’s mouth. That could temporarily neutralize her.

    …And depending on what kind of bird you have, you could safely rest your bird on her tongue.

    #488752
    Freedom Not Slavery
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    If someone did pull that s~~~ on me they would disappear, they would just go missing and I would have no idea what befell the little angel.

    ???

    -SO they’d file the rape charge against you
    -they’d “go missing”
    -you’re now the chief suspect in a murder investigation due to motive
    -you have an alibi, but invariably a witness or traffic cam or anything will break your alibi
    -you go into ass pounding prison for life for 1 count of murder and 1 of rape

    this doesnt even make sense.

    I literally would not be involved but she would go missing, will not even go into more but I can say I would not be in jail cause I would not have harmed her.

    #488881
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    umm maybe I’m unique here. I find all sex nasty, vile and disgusting. Not just the sounds, smells, of tactile sensations, but also how women use sex as a coercive tool and a reward for good permissive behavior.

    Monk is easy. Its as easy as don’t poke the alligator with a short stick.

    My thoughts exactly—well said. And no you’re not unique

    #488890
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    umm maybe I’m unique here. I find all sex nasty, vile and disgusting. Not just the sounds, smells, of tactile sensations, but also how women use sex as a coercive tool and a reward for good permissive behavior.

    Monk is easy. Its as easy as don’t poke the alligator with a short stick.

    My thoughts exactly—well said. And no you’re not unique

    Agreed here, there is a few that agree with you. Logic dictates to me it is not worth it. When it comes to the women themselves, what I find disgusting is that they truly believe that by bestowing their used smelly dripping meat hole on you, that they are giving a reward of some kind. Its all they have to offer.

    #489022
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    When it comes to the women themselves, what I find disgusting is that they truly believe that by bestowing their used smelly dripping meat hole on you, that they are giving a reward of some kind.

    But let’s not forget how it is that they ever got that idea. This is why I say MGTOW should mean ZERO relations~~~s with women. Anything less is only contributing to the problem…

    #489339
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    But let’s not forget how it is that they ever got that idea. This is why I say MGTOW should mean ZERO relations~~~s with women. Anything less is only contributing to the problem…

    That takes away a lot of the choice of how a man goes his own way though, like younger guys who will not be willing to give up sex or having a casual girlfriend. Sure theres a lot of people who have been royally screwed over by the courts, govt, and women but not all of us have had that experience but have seen or heard from others.

    Some MGTOW have also experienced nothing really bad but they do know to be cautious, could they have a really horrible experience and get f~~~ed hard and big time ? yes but again it should be their choice in the end with how they use the knowledge given here.

    I have no plans on marriage but living a solitary life away from most people is not something I want nor is it the solution for all MGTOW, living around people and being close to my friends/family does matter to me, it matters to others as well from the posts I have seen.

    #489357
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    I am a recently converted MGTOW monk who nearly crossed over into the dark side recently. I grew up a very shy kid most of my life, always wanted women, but never had the self-esteem to assert myself. Now I’m a little older with more life experience (but still virgin), my shyness has melted away. I am now a very strong man who’s financially successful with high confidence, maybe even arrogant.

    When this shyness melted away and my self-confidence increased, I now realized that I have everything that’s needed to slay as much pussy as I want. When I made this realization, you can see in my post history where I exploded into a massive ego trip and started a thread about how much my game increased. I am not proud of that ego trip but like to point it out as a reminder to myself that my biological urges still have power over me.

    But as I bragged about my increased self confidence and how I was about to start slaying lots of hot women, the guys here did something I did not expect – they reminded me that what I was doing was suicide. I sat around for hours and meditated on what I was doing. In the end, I concluded that sex with hot women is nothing but a gateway to validation. It is nothing but a drug. And if I f~~~ for the first time with these smoking hot babes, I know that I will experience a high that I’ve never felt before and will become an addict. And when I become an addict to pussy, I will become weak, vulnerable, and I will be destroyed.

    I had chances to possibly f~~~ some of the hottest women I’ve ever met, and while it was hard to do, I turned them all down and cut all ties with them. Because if I knew that I was NOT able to cut them out now, I would forever be a slave to the pussy.

    I realized then that to lose my virginity is to give up my power. Society will shame me for this and it means nothing to me. I am not giving into the drug that is sex, as I know I will get used and demolished. This is why I’ve vowed for celibacy as a MGTOW “monk”. My power means more to me than the validation of society.

    Formerly MoneyOverBitches

    #489366
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    Look at what I posted in your topic MoneyOverBitches, sex is not a bad this and your only a slave to pussy if you can’t separate having fun and being so weak in will power as to not “fall in love” with a woman who opens her legs to you.

    Maybe you would get addicted but I was an old virgin at 27 years old and have not become a slave or addicted to any woman. Perhaps you need more will power but having sex is not some evil or dark thing and it is not validation unless you make it as such.

    If you just want to plow a bunch of hot women that is your choice and theres nothing wrong with it as long as you don’t develop feelings or start to care about the woman you go to bed with. Your virginity is not any kind of power either and not being a virgin is not giving up any kind of power either, you went on an ego trip but your doing a complete 360 with this sudden “monk mode” thing too.

    #489408
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    Maybe you would get addicted but I was an old virgin at 27 years old and have not become a slave or addicted to any woman. Perhaps you need more will power but having sex is not some evil or dark thing and it is not validation unless you make it as such.

    Anyone who has sex is addicted to some degree. Every time you engage in the act of sex, you are reinforcing the habit because of the high you get. Sex in and of itself is not evil, but women in today’s society can use your addiction for evil. Every time you have sex with anyone other than an escort, you are taking a substantial risk. And when you are willing to take that risk just for a short-lived high, you are addicted.

    If you just want to plow a bunch of hot women that is your choice and theres nothing wrong with it as long as you don’t develop feelings or start to care about the woman you go to bed with. Your virginity is not any kind of power either and not being a virgin is not giving up any kind of power either, you went on an ego trip but your doing a complete 360 with this sudden “monk mode” thing too.

    Being a virgin, I will undoubtedly develop some kind of attachment to my first woman. It would probably be optimal if it was indeed an escort, that way I know the attachment won’t destroy me. But I’d rather avoid being attached to the feeling of sex at all. And if you accept the premise that I’ve outlined in my points above, you can see how keeping your virginity is power. If I don’t feel the high of having sex, I am less likely to engage in it again and make bad decisions based on my urges.

    Formerly MoneyOverBitches

    #489416
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    Being a virgin, I will undoubtedly develop some kind of attachment to my first woman. It would probably be optimal if it was indeed an escort, that way I know the attachment won’t destroy me. But I’d rather avoid being attached to the feeling of sex at all. And if you accept the premise that I’ve outlined in my points above, you can see how keeping your virginity is power. If I don’t feel the high of having sex, I am less likely to engage in it again and make bad decisions based on my urges.

    Yes, monks have always taken a vow of celibacy for a reason. It is a very important part of the process. You have gone this far, why stop now? Personally, I enjoy the satisfaction of never giving them the pleasure. That’s my pay back to all the land whales that ran the school I was at. I escaped from the Gynocracy and Joined the MGTOW Hermitage.

    #489422
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    Anyone who has sex for any reason other than to procreate is addicted to some degree. Every time you engage in the act of sex, you are reinforcing the habit. Sex in and of itself is not evil, but women in today’s society can use your addiction for evil. Every time you have sex with anyone other than an escort, you are taking a substantial risk. And when you are willing to take that risk just for a short-lived high, you are addicted.

    Not everything is addiction man, you need to stop claiming this cause it is flat out not true, some people do get addicted to sex but not everyone does. Just cause a man enjoys sex does not mean he is not disciplined, knows when not to indulge, or just shuts a woman down because he are not in the mood or just do not like something about the woman.

    I can flat out tell your making pussy out to be some kind of drug like heroin or crack when it really isn’t, I was a virgin too and I have never been addicted to women or pussy cause I am not some weak willed slave to my wants.

    Do you consider watching tv, playing video games, or eating certain foods an addiction to them ? cause if you do it is literally a personal problem you have.

    #489430
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    Why do you persist on trying to convince me to have sex? Is it because you feel insecure about the thought of not being as strong as a person who’s vowed and maintained celibacy, therefore you try to rationalize that maintaining celibacy isn’t beneficial? You said so yourself, MGTOW is about making your own choice. I’ve already stated several times that I know I can be perfectly happy without it.

    Not everything is addiction man, you need to stop claiming this cause it is flat out not true, some people do get addicted to sex but not everyone does. Just cause a man enjoys sex does not mean he is not disciplined, knows when not to indulge, or just shuts a woman down because he are not in the mood or just do not like something about the woman.

    I can flat out tell your making pussy out to be some kind of drug like heroin or crack when it really isn’t, I was a virgin too and I have never been addicted to women or pussy cause I am not some weak willed slave to my wants.

    Yes, I am aware that it is entirely possible to control your urges with discipline. I’m sure you do it, I’m sure lots of people do it. But I’m saying the likelihood of doing this successfully decreases when you’ve already felt the high. It makes you more likely to engage in the act again, and you are more likely to do so under the wrong circumstances. If I can be happy without sex, then why should I take the risk?

    Do you consider watching tv, playing video games, or eatting certain foods an addiction to them ? cause if you do it is literally a personal problem you have.

    This analogy does not work because indulging in these activities do not have as potentially large of a consequence as f~~~ing the wrong woman. If you watch TV, play video games, or eat junk food, you might become lazier and suffer some long-term health consequences. Which I admit is pretty bad. But I already do some of these and know they don’t have power over me. If you f~~~ once in a while, there are possibilities that can result in more misery than even bad health! And I have no idea how I would react to sex after having had it.

    Again, if I can be happy without sex, then why should I take the risk?

    Formerly MoneyOverBitches

    #489432
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    I am saying that you switched gears from “I’m horny and want sex” to “monk mode/celibacy” very quickly in my opinion is all, it’s like in less then a day you went from 100% “wanting to bang hot women” to 0 “f~~~ women I’m a virgin and proud”.

    Taking a vow of no sex is a big decision and shouldn’t be taken lightly, you say you’ve meditated on it but just be sure it is really what you want to do.

    Taking a vow like this should be for your reasons not cause a bunch of people advocated it and scared you into it with horror stories/experiences.

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