What is a modern MGTOW monk and why does it appeal to some ?

[AutoliteParticipant]

blade wrote:

I rarely wank . Probably once or twice a month .

Well you don’t need to brag about it! I can only get it up maybe twice a year.. 🙁

[AutoliteParticipant]

Question for ‘Freedom Not Slavery’:

Have you yet had to deal with a false rape or assault accusation from a woman???

[Anonymous 43]

umm maybe I’m unique here. I find all sex nasty, vile and disgusting. Not just the sounds, smells, of tactile sensations, but also how women use sex as a coercive tool and a reward for good permissive behavior.

Monk is easy. Its as easy as don’t poke the alligator with a short stick.

[SOLI2DEParticipant 746]

Keymaster wrote:

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

I have a few questions for some of you here that I would like some light shed on, what is it to be a modern MGTOW monk ?

I don’t like the term “MGTOW Monk” because it’s the wrong impression and a backwards idea.

A man doesn’t need to “force” not having sex / relationships / cohabitation.
He just needs to NOT PURSUE those things.

Almost all of the time, sex is not going to happen unless you pursue it, purpose dates, interact with women on that kind of level etc. He doesn’t need to be a conscious effort to “go monk” because women don’t generally initiate it.

MGTOW is not the action of “going monk”.

It’s just the INACTION and unwillingness to participate for variety of reasons. Perhaps the most important is realizing “the juice ain’t worth the squeeze”.

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

Seen the term before but there was no solid explanation

It’s a somewhat misleading expression, because “monks” are known to take a vow of celibacy. But a modern man doesn’t need do that. He just needs to NOT ask women out.

INACTION v.s a conscious action.

KeyMaster hit the nail on the head with this one. GIVE UP THE PURSUIT

“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-

[clint englandParticipant 341]

Every one has their own opinions, thoughts and actions on this one and as they should too. After all that is the whole point of being men going our own way.

For me i don’t see it as a bad thing to at least have a go at going monk. Porn has been a good outlet for me and certainly keeps your powder dry, as well as making it much easier to avoid women and any of the many risky situations than can occur from being in their presence.

However, porn can get too much and leave you unmotivated and unfocused. I’m not talking from a money point but in the Napoleon Hill book Think and Grow Rich, there’s a section called ‘Sex Transmutation’ that basically is about using your sex energy to redirect into more positive pursuits like hitting the gym, taking up a project of some kind etc.

I’m looking into this myself, i’m hitting the weights at home as gyms get on my t~~~ with all the attention whoring from both sexes. But i do think there’s something in all this. This video made me take it more seriously:

[Anonymous 1]

I don’t like the term Monk. Like Keymaster pointed out, it really refers to our reluctance to actively pursue women. The word “Monk” conjures up the image of fat old priests chanting for hours and hours, who get all touchy and feely with the altar boys. I certainly wouldn’t want people to associate MGTOW with that!

I’d rather be known for following in the footsteps of Tesla. They used to call him “The Wizard.” I like the sound of that much better than Monk. My preferred pronoun is now “Wizard.”

[Anonymous 11]

sidecar wrote:

Pursuing sex and going on dates have always been irrelevant efforts at best and counterproductive at worst.

That has been my experience too.

After much blue pill stupidity, I finally learned to simply let the ball come to me. Now, I just don’t want filthy, Sun battered, and dog chewed b~~~~ anymore.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

The word “Monk” conjures up the image of fat old priests chanting for hours and hours,

Well, you gotta just change your image then. Look up the Shaolin Monks. I assure the word “monk” has just as many positive connotations as negative, if not more.

Monks in the Middle Ages were the original MGTOW. They essentially walked away from society to live with other men exclusively in monasteries where they practiced meditation and prayer as well as studying and copying manuscripts. It’s thanks to monks that many works of classic history and literature were preserved to the present day.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

Autolite wrote:

Question for ‘Freedom Not Slavery’:

Have you yet had to deal with a false rape or assault accusation from a woman???

No I have never had anyone pull a false rape or assailt accusation on me, I am careful with who the women I have sex with are and always use protection so none of them get pregnant.

I also don’t always go for regular women, sometimes I will get an escort.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

No I have never had anyone pull a false rape or assailt accusation on me, I am careful with who the women I have sex with are and always use protection so none of them get pregnant.

You don’t need to have sex with a woman to get a rape charge. You don’t need to have contact with a woman to get an assault charge. Our justice system is so f~~~ed that it’s surreal. We’re through the looking glass here. Being “careful” with who you’re with guarantees nothing.

In today’s world, you’re not really free from liability unless you actually don’t exist. You’ll understand if you ever p~~~ off a woman and she gets you in her sights. You’ll then be in for a hard lesson as to how things really work…

[AutoliteParticipant]

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

always use protection so none of them get pregnant.

Do you inspect your condoms for pin holes before taking them out of the wrappers? Do you remove the condom yourself immediately after use and dispose of it properly?

I would recommend incineration after a quick soak in battery acid…

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

I always use my own condoms that I bought, they are never tampered with because I always make sure I am the only one who handles them, I never let a woman take it off, I do and I flush them down the toilet to be sure.

If a woman ever files false anything against me she will learn a lesson that she should not try to f~~~ with my life. Have dealt with angry women before and put them in their place so they know I am not someone they want as an enemy.

[AsceticmonkParticipant 846]

…ok….

God please help me to give a good description.

i may comment more than once in regard to the OP, so please bear with me while i try to find inspiration/the words.

The word “monk”, comes from the greek term “monarchos” which is very close the the word for monarch, or sovereign/king.

it also is closely connected to the word “mono”, which of course means one, or solitary.

for this comment, i am not going to attempt to describe monasticism in general, or Christian monasticism, but for any of you that are familiar with my topics and comments, you all know that i profess to be a Christian (albeit i’m not a very good one), and that i don’t regard myself as a mghow, but i partially agree and disagree with mgtow philosphy, concepts and thought.

so let me describe what i’ve experienced as a single man who is a Christian, and although i do not live in a monastic community (which is known as cenobic monasticism), i do not seek to marry, and i do not seek to engage with any manifestation of sexual activity inside or outside of marriage.

denying sensual or lustful pleasures is a battle and struggle for any man that seeks to be delivered from the entanglements, sin, and consequences of natural, fleshly sexual desire, it is a discipline, a fight, a process, and it does have its ups and downs and gets ugly.

I am not trying to debate or persuade any man here of the sinfulness or rectitude of either participating or abstaining from sexual activity inside or outside of marriage, i am simply one that agrees with the Judaeo-Christian scripture, and i am seeking God’s forgiveness through Christ Jesus for my own culpability and guilt in regard to any sins of lust, and any and all sins.

Now, moving from that, as a person who may be incorrectly labeled as a Christian mgtow, which i am not however i do understand the reasons people use that designation, there are other components or aspects of someone who chooses to live single that is situationally aware of the dangers and advantages to taking heed to mgtow thinking.

Much of this risk and danger avoidance has been well established on this site and other manosphere sites, and even in the comments before mine in this very thread, and can be read and considered again for review.

Staying away from women completely significantly reduces the danger of false accusation and unjust punishment by other members of the society or the state.

Many monks, scientists, inventors and geniuses of the past learned in certain terms what we have become aware of ourselves, by our own experiences and what we have read from each other online: that association with women can bring significant problems, pain, and penalties, both justly deserved, and unjustly deserved.

Being what is called “a mgtow monk”, can be described in various ways by many individuals, but for myself, taking my focus away from women for little or no return on investment, allows me to refocus that time and energy towards more worthy pursuits.

There are many posts on the internet in the manosphere which describe well the things that men have become more available to do as a result of remaining single, such as self-actualiztion, career pursuit and goals, work, financial growth and prosperity, pursuing hobbies and interests, focusing on taking care of one’s health or family, unorthodox lifestyle choices (traveling, DIY, research, etc).

For myself specifically, the increased amount of time and safety allows me to reach out to God more, and to make more time for prayer, for study, and to refocus on incredibly powerful and constructive spiritual disciplines such as fasting and confession of sin.

I cannot speak for other mgtow men that choose to follow a “monk” lifestyle, and i hope i do not presume to do so, but if i had to say as a person that is seeking to stay single, and that is aware of mgtow principles, what it is to be a mgtow monk, there are many things about it.

avoiding aggravation
avoiding unnecessary police involvment
silence
solitude
focus on work
control of one’s time and energy
refusing to compromise with other people’s wrong desires
time and opportunity for self reflection
work/career/financial improvement
spiritual pursuits
building things/ building businesses/ or working on charitable projects
unfortunately for some: hedonism and freedom to pursue sin
avoidance of toxic people
discovery and research

the list goes on. as always, i do not seek to judge anyone or be contrary to anyone here unnecessarily, as we all have our own opionions and ideas, and stand as our own men.

i am thankful for that, as this is a place where there is real free speech, which sadly is rare these days, but at least we have it in places like this.

I respect and am thankful for all you men and all of your ideas, especially those of you that do not have the same convictions as me, and i hope this comment is useful in some ways to those of you who read it.

and anything that i’ve typed or said, that is sinful, evil, or inaccurate, i apologize for it, and i pray that God blesses, heals, and protects all of you.

Peace be with you men.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

I always use my own condoms that I bought, they are never tampered with because I always make sure I am the only one who handles them,

I had a girl who would needle-prick my condoms behind my back and then sneak them back into my wallet. I was young and it had never occurred to me that a woman would do this…and nobody ever warned me about it.

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

If a woman ever files false anything against me she will learn a lesson that she should not try to f~~~ with my life. Have dealt with angry women before and put them in their place so they know I am not someone they want as an enemy.

In my neck of the woods, an angry woman will just engage the state police force and the court system to do her dirt. And they are always happy to oblige her. It makes it a little tricky for the fella to retaliate when he’s behind bars…

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

Things are a little different here, and the police already know me anyway as I am known and have been vetted, I am in good standing with law enforcement be it local or state.

Known about the needle pricking thing and am practically paranoid careful with my condoms, like my tools of the trade I never let them leave my side or anyone else touch them unless I trust them, no woman is trusted with either.

[ABParticipant 762]

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

Known about the needle pricking thing and am practically paranoid careful with my condoms, like my tools of the trade I never let them leave my side or anyone else touch them unless I trust them, no woman is trusted with either.

It comes out my pocket, out the box, out the packet, onto my c~~~.

As airport security ask: “Did you pack your bags yourself?”

I ask myself the security question of: “Did you unpack the condom yourself?”

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[Anonymous 0]

Autolite wrote:

F~~~ that!. Who needs that kinda liability in their life. It’s a “Sword of Damocles” kinda situation that I can certainly do without…

It’s like multiple Swords of Damocles: fake rape, fake domestic violence, pregnancy, STDs, and etc…

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Freedom Not Slavery wrote:

I always use my own condoms that I bought, they are never tampered with because I always make sure I am the only one who handles them, I never let a woman take it off, I do and I flush them down the toilet to be sure.

If a woman ever files false anything against me she will learn a lesson that she should not try to f~~~ with my life. Have dealt with angry women before and put them in their place so they know I am not someone they want as an enemy.

tough talk, but a woman can surely f~~~ you over much worse than you think you can pull one over them.

You don’t even need to have sex with a woman for them to be able to drag your name through the mud and screw you over with your employer, family, friends, college. Although consensual sex rape charges are happening more and more in college campuses across the country.

This guy lost millions being picked much lower than he should have in the draft. He lost close to $4 million on the false rape accusation. Now do you think the c~~~ is going to pay him back for his lost money due to her defamation and false acccusation attempt? Do you think she’ll get the equivalent punishment he would have gotten for a rape charge? Think about it.

15
Colts
Malik Hooker$12,613,536$7,304,180

24
Raiders
Gareon Conley $10,480,874$5,753,154

And he was lucky to even be drafted in the first round.

Before the draft, three general managers told NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport that they thought Conley’s legal issues would prevent him from being drafted before Friday’s third round.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/04/28/rape-investigation-doesnt-stop-raiders-from-drafting-gareon-conley-in-first-round/?utm_term=.f70551b0da5d

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[AutoliteParticipant]

~BS wrote:

tough talk, but a woman can surely f~~~ you over much worse than you think you can pull one over them.

This is where the average woman has the advantage over the average man. Women can come up with ideas to f~~~ you over that would never even occur to a normal guy.

Woman actually congregate to share and develop such ideas and tactics. It’s like some sort of unholy coven or ‘axis of evil’ when they do this kinda s~~~…

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Autolite wrote:

~BS wrote:

tough talk, but a woman can surely f~~~ you over much worse than you think you can pull one over them.

This is where the average woman has the advantage over the average man. Women can come up with ideas to f~~~ you over that would never even occur to a normal guy.

Woman actually congregate to share and develop such ideas and tactics. It’s like some sort of unholy coven or ‘axis of evil’ when they do this kinda s~~~…

exactly. The problem is that today’s society allows women to pearl harbor preemptive sneak attack men. They can cause massive damage to a man for a successful attack (or even an unsuccessful one), but suffer little or no consequences in return.

The man’s options are strictly defensive. He won’t see whatever attack is coming, get blindsided by it, then must choose how to react in defense. It is extremely difficult not to lose (let alone win) if your only option is reacting to the other party on defense. It would be like playing football or basketball, every time your team got possession of the ball, you’d turn it over to the other team and go on defense again.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

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