What got me kicked out of "avoiceformen"

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

OK stop. NO. You can’t “use a woman for sex”. That’s bulls~~~.
Consensual sex only happens when a woman WANTS it to.
He didn’t “take” anything from her that she didn’t willingly GIVE him.

I’m not talking recently there was men who manipulated women after false pretences. PUA is sort of like that I believe. Sure I agree it’s different now it’s the other way around.

The “injustice” is when she deliberately misrepresents herself as a loving wife even before the wedding…. or gets married under the guise of “love”. That’s like a Golddigger claiming she was “used for sex” because a PUA said “hello I’m a Doctor”.

I don’t believe that’s always the case at least until they get married. Many women are so in love with money and what money can buy. Remember the media, the culture have brain washed women with this. Of course there are women who purpose do this I will post a thread about it.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

I did not know that English wasn’t your first language and I tend to use a lot of obscure words so there might be a language barrier. I don’t mean to sound like an asshole.

No that was when I about 6 or 7 years old when I couldn’t speak English. My vocabulary isn’t that great, never had a emphasis on vocabulary, I”m get too lazy to learn.

The fact that you can see “injustice” is all that matters. There are some people who think that “injustice” doesn’t exist. I’m glad to hear that you are not one of these people.

I don’t think you understand, it’s changing meaning. I don’t forgive people for others but for myself. I don’t want things haunting me or living my past. It wouldn’t be something I could handle without going insane.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[VileNordParticipant 766]

I don’t think you understand, it’s changing meaning. I don’t forgive people for others but for myself. I don’t want things haunting me or living my past. It wouldn’t be something I could handle without going insane.

I understand this. It is healthy to forgive people for what they have done to you, but I wasn’t talking about forgiveness, I was talking about justice. I’m writing this so that others reading it will have a clearer picture of what I’m talking about.

If a family member is murdered, you can forgive the killer for the pain that they caused YOU, but you cannot forgive them on behalf of anyone else. The killer brought a lot of pain to a lot of people, especially the deceased, that you personally CANNOT forgive. Nobody has the authority to forgive someone on behalf of another person. Most people are not strong enough to forgive and I do not fault them for that. There has to be a punishment for the killer because of this.

There must be a moral code that all people agree upon. There must be punishments for those who violate the moral code. This is called JUSTICE.

Think about humanity as a whole. Can you forgive Pol Pot for making children sweep out the minefields of Cambodia? No, you cannot. Can you forgive the American bank executives for their illegal dealings that have caused millions of people financial hardship? No, you cannot. Can you forgive Hitler, Saddam, etc….? No you cannot. You as an individual do not have the agency to forgive anybody for something that they did to anyone other than yourself.

I’m happy to know that you have reached a place in life where you can forgive people for their sins against you, but this is not enough in order to be an enlightened person. Enlightenment is the attainment of absolute truth and absolute truth requires an absolute morality and an absolute morality requires justice. Anyone who forgives people on behalf of other people, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO FEEL THE PAIN OF INJUSTICE, is a coward.

I do not think you are one of these people, these cowards. I think you are smart enough to know that what I have just said is true. I think you agree with me. I just wanted to clear up the confusion between justice and forgiveness, because forgiveness is NOT justice.

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