We expect way too much!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

sidecar wrote:

@keymaster: Did he (?) send you a private message or something complaining about the lack of safe spaces here?

No he just joined and contacted and wanted to participate right away, but usually there is a 24 hour buffer because:

1. We’re not staffed around the clock.

2. We can’t just have any hothead join and start posting right away.

3. Others are waiting and the forum are super BUSY.

So I thought “should I?” but there were men waiting since yesterday who weren’t participants yet…….. so I made an exception. We do it this way for f~~~ing excellent reasons – and now I remember why.

I don’t have a problem with a conflicting view (obviously), but this one didn’t even do the homework.

“Men expect too much”.
Rolls eyes.

I remember going out with this cute Japanese f~~~ doll in 2009 when I was pretty damn close to the end of my rope with entitlement broads, but she was actually DIFFERENT! First time we met, we went out for a bit of Sushi and before she took any for herself , she took my plate , asked me what I wanted and looked me in the eye and thanked me for dinner BEFORE dinner. Nice right?

So I went out with her again, naturally and on the second date she had a 1/2 glass of champagne and literally PASSED OUT from it and couldn’t even STAND UP on her own two feet. She was TOTALLY USELESS and sat in the car like a rag doll who couldn’t even hold her head up on her own.

“Take me back to your place” she said… barely coherent… and I thought “lol so you can charge me with “RAPE?” f~~~ you !!!” and I did a complete 180, crossed town, and literally reached across her t~~~ and PUSHED the car door open from the inside. GET THE F~~~ OUT. Dropped her off in her own lobby and told the doorman she’s YOUR problem now.

We expect too much from women?
It would be a mistake to even expect her to STAY AWAKE.

Never mind the rest of it.

That’s when I truly realized — >> however LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman, you can always count on her to fall BELOW it.

Anyone who says “men expect too much from women” needs to do a little more field research. Just look at this s~~~ spotted on facebook, shared and liked by women all over the place. REMEMBER THIS S~~~? @sidecar actually wrote the reply!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AttonParticipant]

This website is ace. Feminism has turned women into monsters.

Chicken before the egg anyone, um no women made feminism.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Scott7 wrote:

Don’t you think that this warfare between men and women is what is really going on in the Trump-Clinton contest?

No, I don’t see this political contest as a gender war. I see it as a battle between two clowns. When the election is over, Donald and Hillary will go back to being buddies and the rest of my fellow Americans (and I) will go back to struggling to survive without any politician shedding a tear for our plight.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Keymaster wrote:

That’s when I truly realized — >> however LOW you LOWER the floor of expectation for a woman, you can always count on her to fall BELOW it.

I hope I don’t sound bitter, but my guard is always up around women. I fully expect them to try to manipulate me out of something. I had to laugh at your point- no matter how low you set the bar, you can count on a woman to go lower. This is true.

I laughed about the lady who passed out after 1/2 glass of champagne, although it’s not funny. She was probably setting you up. Similar thing happened to me.

In my blue pill days, I had several ladies “pass out” on my sofa. They were impossible to revive. But as soon as I went to bed in a different room, they managed to wake up and slither into my bed. I was thinking about a false pregnancy claim at the time and ended up sleeping in my car. Damn women are diabolical.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

But as soon as I went to bed in a different room, they managed to wake up and slither into my bed. I was thinking about a false pregnancy claim at the time and ended up sleeping in my car. Damn women are diabolical.

Holys~~~… that’s actually kinda scary.

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[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Keymaster wrote:

I don’t have a problem with a conflicting view (obviously), but this one didn’t even do the homework.

“Men expect too much”.
Rolls eyes.

That did seem a little tuna-like, but I don’t really have a problem with people being wrong, even as blatantly wrong as this Scott7 was. A lot of men come here after having blue pill bulls~~~ shoved down their throats for decades, and it can take a while to decompress from that and work all the carefully crafted misconceptions out of their systems. And besides, being wrong is the first step to learning better.

But the second step is recognizing you’re wrong. This jackass didn’t do that. Instead he doubled down. Had he responded with some sort of logic, reason, or facts supporting his position it might have passed, but instead this twit came back with “Nuh-uh. You men don’t know anything. I have special knowledge. But I can’t share it with you right now. Because reasons.”

I find crapweaselhood like that is intolerable. From the moment he (?) tried it it was clear he (?) wouldn’t be around long. I just expected him to receive a few more warnings first. Not that those warnings would have done much good…

Anyone who says “men expect too much from women” needs to do a little more field research.

If anything men expect too little. The reason why so many women behave so badly is simply because they get away with it. Men don’t expect any better of them. Men don’t hold them to any standard.

But MGTOW do. Women hate that.

Consider how badly women take it when some men actually hold women to any sort of high standard. For example look at the collective freakout over #nohymennodiamond. God forbid their $25,000 rock should come with conditions.

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

In my blue pill days, I had several ladies “pass out” on my sofa. They were impossible to revive. But as soon as I went to bed in a different room, they managed to wake up and slither into my bed. I was thinking about a false pregnancy claim at the time and ended up sleeping in my car. Damn women are diabolical.

ALWAYS at her place.

NEVER at yours.

I cannot emphasize that enough.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

When i was a boy i expected that one day a woman and me would one day fall in love together and always look out for each other and always care about each other and always help each other.Always emotionaly support eachother.

I was expecting way too much.

A Goddamn disneyworld fairy tale it was.

Its all gynocentric myth and hollywood lies.

These RedPills burn me going down, like hot coals.

But i gotta keep taking them ,

other wise i expect too much

like being able to be alone with a woman in an elevator and never be falsly accused.

I take another RedPill.GodDamn they burn my flesh all the way going down.

Expect a woman to trustworthy.Expect to be screwed over.

I remember my highschool English teacher telling us that the best friend a girl can have is a guy because

“Girls screw girls over.”

But gynocentric as women typicly are she never bothered to warn the boys about being screwed over by the girls.

Women screw men over all the time too.

I take another RedPill.
From my mouth to my stomach its all burning.It f~~~ing hurts.

Get married and you face about a 50% chance of divorce.

Expecting to live with a woman till you die is expecting too much..

How much more do you really want to hear?

These RedPills they are burning me..Hurts like hell.But im going to keep taking them even if it kills me.The only way i am able to see the truth.

A single BluePill lie would feel like mercy right now…

“NAWALT”

For example.

Except for the warning in my mind.

Some times what seems like mercy is anything but mercy.

Even tho i cant stand the pain i take another RedPill….

You want one???

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Absolutely.
I expect too much.
I expect to spend my free time as I like.
I expect sex three times per day.
I expect having the floor perfectly clean.
I expect to eat what I like.

That’s why I live alone, I have a robot vacuum cleaner and two fleshlights, and I cook my meals.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Men expect too much?

LOL, with that attitude, we wouldn’t have reached the moon.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[KeymasterKeymaster]

sidecar wrote:

Had he responded with some sort of logic, reason, or facts supporting his position it might have passed, but instead this twit came back with “Nuh-uh. You men don’t know anything. I have special knowledge. But I can’t share it with you right now. Because reasons.” From the moment he (?) tried it it was clear he (?) wouldn’t be around long

We woudlh’t toss him out for a conflicting viewpoint. The OP will be permitted back to resume and regale us all with his(?) knowledge. He(?) just has to wait.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

Either way, somebody gives a s~~~. Probably a c~~~, only a c~~~ would talk like that.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[Anonymous 42]

FunInTheSun wrote:

Donald and Hillary will go back to being buddies and the rest of my fellow Americans (and I) will go back to struggling to survive without any politician shedding a tear for our plight.

I hear ya FunInTheSun, I live in the most destroyed neighborhood in America and quite possibly the world. They’ve been holding elections here in town and taxing this corpse for almost half a century, and your right, they go back to their paradise purchased on our dime while we rot away.
America is for all intents and purposed Murdered by the executive and justice in an unholy alliance to bury alive the atrocity they created hand in hand in the ruination of this place…

sidecar wrote:

If anything men expect too little. The reason why so many women behave so badly is simply because they get away with it. Men don’t expect any better of them. Men don’t hold them to any standard.

Sidecar, I stopped expecting ANYTHING GOOD from women more than 20 years ago, I haven’t been disappointed yet! One bumbling bitch after another but refusing to tolerate any and all female narcissistic self-entitled bulls~~~! I’d rather be nailed to a tree!

bigboy83 wrote:

Either way, somebody gives a s~~~. Probably a c~~~, only a c~~~ would talk like that.

I’m with Bigboy here^^^^ He’s earned a custom dual engine 1200 2400 Sportster!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Anonymous wrote:

One bumbling bitch after another but refusing to tolerate any and all female narcissistic self-entitled bulls~~~! I’d rather be nailed to a tree!

But that’s just it. You may not expect much, but you’re accepting even less. You’re not letting them get away with s~~~ regardless.

Most men expect nothing, and then, when women behave badly, reward them anyways.

But when MGTOW say #nohymennodiamond, it doesn’t mean we expect a bunch of women to suddenly show up with intact maidenheads. It means: “No more overpriced rocks for you, laydeez.”

[Anonymous 11]

What I expected was the exact opposite of what I got. Multiple women over a 30 year span of time each and every single one was a damn clone of the others.

Bored out sloppy vagina, spendthrift, Chad chasing, and hypergamous. We expect too much??? Get the f~~~ out of here with that crap.

[narwhalParticipant]

It’s not a matter of expectation, it’s a matter of what’s acceptable and what’s dangerous and damaging.

Take my dog for example. He’s great, but he has a tendency to chew on things, damage my property. That’s who he is. It’s not really a question of why, it’s in his nature to do so. So I have to discipline and train him not to, remove values so he can’t get them, and sometimes send him outside.

No imagine the government told me that I could not discipline and train my dog, I needed to let him be independent and a free spirit. I could not keep my valuable property away from him. When I adopted him, he has free access to my stuff to do what he wishes. I could not put him outside, that was a violation of his rights. I love dogs, but I’m not letting one in my house under these conditions. I may visit some at the shelter, but that’s as far as it goes.

That’s exactly what’s happened with women. I’m not saying they are dogs, just that when the government tells me there are no consequences for their bad behavior, then I can’t have them in my house.

It really isn’t any different for men either. if there was no penalty for rape, for example, then it wouldn’t take long for rape to become rather common. What would women do? They would not get caught alone with any man. The would go their own way as much as they possible could. It’s not that women don’t like men, it’s just that when you remove the restrictions on a man’s behavior, it becomes too dangerous, too risky and no longer worth the effort.

Do I expect too much from women? Not at all. I expect to be women unrestrained, which is not worth living with. I would not want to live with an unrestrained dog or man for that matter either.

Ok. Then do it.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

narwhal wrote:

That’s exactly what’s happened with women. I’m not saying they are dogs

Yea, except the dog can kick you out of your house

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

“Men expect too much”. If peace, love, and honesty is too much, then I’m glad I decided to go MGTOW. I do that for free for the benefit of random strangers on any given day of the week. Too much indeed.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Scott7Spectator 51]

Hello, I’m back.

When I said ‘men expect too much’ I was suggesting that men’s ‘individual’ expectations are irrelevant.

We are not individuals. We are part of a society of men and women that guides itself through a collective unconscious.

Throughout time women have set the agenda and men have had to live up to it. Men’s struggle to be alpha males was an expectation of women. The most powerful, successful men got the most attractive women even though a lot of those men started wars, caused damage and were ruthless.

Women are now deliberately antagonizing men and men on this site are responding in only one way;- reactive and hostile.

Did none of you ever think this is the exact response they wanted??

Did none of you not question that half the human race is hardly going to temporarily make your lives a misery if there was no ‘rational’ intention for such behaviour?

The conscious motivations of women i.e feminism, get revenge on men, etc and the conscious reactive behaviour of men, anger at this mistreatment, mgtow, etc is not the actual reality.

Both behaviour patterns are like amateur dramatics, both sides playing a disingenuous role in order to fulfil an agenda that works at an unconscious level.

The agenda is that BOTH sexes realize that long term partnerships are no longer working in the 21st century.

This battle between the sexes is being enacted in order to facilitate a dramatic and permanent change in the relationships between men and women.

We can’t all sit down and agree to this normally and rationally, as human societies only develop through violence and conflict.

Women are goading men not because women are as nasty as everyone on this site seems to think, but because it is their ‘job’ in a darwinian sense to do so, forcing men to adopt new roles in society that will increase the chances of our survival as a species.

When men on this site say that following mgtow is liberating for them, it confirms this inevitable path we are all now on.

[Anonymous 3]

Women selected men? That’s pretty funny.

My historical knowledge tells me fathers had to pay money to get their daughters off their hands.

Keep in mind in most of human history there was no running power, there were no supermarkets, there was no HR department, no computers, and no BS jobs talking on the phone or calling meetings. There were no cops, there was no welfare, there were no foodstamps, there were no supermarkets.

You either worked, and got food, or you died. And women are unable to work in any way that generates food or resources.

Remember also there was no makeup, and there was no fashion. Everyone wore rags, nobody cared. Most women even today have bad skin, but hide it with makeup. They use a ton of cosmetics and products to keep from looking bad and smelling bad. Without all that, what man is going to give up his own food and security to deal with an annoying trollop?

Women either got married young or became prostitutes, the only thing they could do. They couldn’t date around or focus on careers.

People talk about all of this history with the lens of our current era, but OUR society is the historical anomaly, not the other way around. Women do not select men, men select women, and men have to be bribed in order to do even that.

[OldBillParticipant]

Scott7 wrote:

Hello, I’m back.

Why?

We are not individuals.

None of us are individuals? None of us are men going their own way?

Keeping digging that hole.

We are part of a society of men and women that guides itself through a collective unconscious.]/quote]

So, we’re social insects?

[quote]Did none of you ever think this is the exact response they wanted??

So, it’s a conspiracy?

Did none of you not question that half the human race is hardly going to temporarily make your lives a misery if there was no ‘rational’ intention for such behaviour?

Current female behavior is incentivized. Women are rewarded with attention and money for acting they way they do. Women are responding rationally to the situation, just as men are responding rationally.

The conscious motivations of women i.e feminism, get revenge on men, etc and the conscious reactive behaviour of men, anger at this mistreatment, mgtow, etc is not the actual reality.

Women are goading men not because women are as nasty as everyone on this site seems to think, but because it is their ‘job’ in a darwinian sense to do so, forcing men to adopt new roles in society that will increase the chances of our survival as a species.

Do you seriously think that female behavior, plus the government and legal backing behind it, will increase our chances of survival? Behavior which is seeing marriage rates collapse across the developed world? Behavior which means a majority of children are raised by single mothers with all the psychiatric, economic, and behavioral problems that creates?

You’re either profoundly stupid or a troll. Either way, enjoy your brief return while it lasts.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

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