Villians in movies

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

Feminism in TV shows and movies

Ever notice how all the badass villians are almost always MGTOW? I never got that until
I actually became MGTOW.

Some MGTOW villians:

Joker
TwoFaced
Darth Vader
Hannibal Lecter
Jack Torrance (The Shining)
Freddy Krueger
Jason
Magneto
Voldermort
Agent Smith (Matrix)
Palpatine (Star Wars)
Scar (Lion King)
Sauron(Lord of The Rings)
Micheal Myers (Halloween)
Loki(Marvel Universe)
BeetleJuice
Doctor Evil
Captain Hook (Hook)
Green Goblin
Lex Luther
Venom

And all or most of the hereos either become manginas or are already manginas. Just look at
what they did with Iron Man. I actually liked him in the first movie, but when he started
focusing on the stupid bitch of an assistant, I don’t even like him anymore.

I could go on, but you get the idea. Personally, I find it awesome that 90% of the villians
in TV shows and movies are MGTOW men. Don’t even get me started on anime. Also, this just
shows that society is threatened by us.

Even TV shows such as The Big Bang Theory, all of the nerds or most of them have
girlfriends. Except for Raj. And, he’s made out to be a pussy because he’s single when
instead, he should just embrass it. But, the producers will never allow him to do that,
because society wants single men to feel bad because they’re single.

Also, I watched the new Captain America trailer. The new movie sucks because of the stupid
c~~~ Black Widow. I hate Marvel now because they even made Thor a girl in the comics
because of feminism. But, superhero movies are getting old anyway. They’re basically the
same except with different actors.

I stopped watching TV and movies because it’s filled with this s~~~ though. I do go
and watch some newer movies, but not very often. And the only time I use the TV is
when I’m not working for background noise if I’m reading articles or studying. I’m
even learning to get away from doing that and instead just listen to or watch a
college lecture or something on Youtube.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

They do this because it’s easier to demonize an unmarried man and make him kook like like a “weirdo / creep / loser”. If you give them wives or girlfriends, suddenly the character becomes WEAK – and a good story is only as good as the villain. That is the formula.

If the opposing force isn’t strong enough, you have weak story. And a married Darth Vader would have no impact, because that would make him docile controlled schmuck — just like Hayden Christiansen’s Anakin was a weakling pussy beggar in Episodes I , II and II. There was no story, no tension, nothing whatsoever.

Society functions on this “creep weirdo loser” thing without even thinking.
It’s like a man on his own is questionable and threatening,……..
but as soon as you put a woman next to him, that makes him “OK”.

It’s SICK really.

Because when you REALLY think about it……..

God is single. So was Indiana Jones.
But Frankenstein, Hitler and Linda Tripp were married.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

Keymaster wrote:

They do this because it’s easier to demonize an unmarried man and make him kook like like a “weirdo / creep / loser”. If you give them wives or girlfriends, suddenly the character becomes WEAK – and a good story is only as good as the villain. That is the formula.

Society functions on this “creep weirdo loser” thing without even thinking.

But when you REALLY think about it……..

God is single. So was Indiana Jones.
But Frankenstein, Hitler and Linda Tripp were married.

Yep.. Hell, most religious prophets are single as well. Such as Buddha, Mohammed, Jesus, etc. Even Eric Cartman from South Park is the most MGTOW fictional man there is. And, he’s demonized on the show a lot.

[CoolantParticipant 16]

Joker: Dating Harley Quinn
TwoFaced: Was married
Darth Vader: Was f~~~ing Padmae Amidala
Hannibal Lecter: eats people bisexually
Freddy Krueger: Child molester
Jason: Norman Bates complex
Magneto: F~~~ing the s~~~ out of Mystique for nearly 50 years
Agent Smith (Matrix): a program in a computer generated simulation.
Palpatine (Star Wars): Gets hard when Anakin feels hatred building inside of him…..
Scar (Lion King): Gay (Or just flamboyantly Asexual, idunno…)
Loki(Marvel Universe): cross-dressing prankster god who is the world’s biggest PUA
Green Goblin: Married, had a kid, kid becomes green Goblin
Lex Luther: In love with Amanda Waller, Dating Lana Lang, Tana, and Lois Lane in Earth 3

I’m not saying you guys are wrong, but If You’re looking to find a conspiracy anywhere, chances are, you’re gonna find it everywhere.

There are more rational explanations for why super villains are MGTOW, the most likely being that they aren’t.

[RoyDalParticipant]

MGHOW Paladin wrote:

Ever notice how all the badass villians are almost always MGTOW? I never got that until
I actually became MGTOW.

Good point! I had not really noticed either. I can’t recall any James Bond villains who had a wife calling them up and telling them to stop at the grocery store on the way home!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Coolant wrote:

I’m not saying you guys are wrong

There would be nothing wrong if you DID. But careful where you’re going with that because saying “you’re wrong” — or “not saying ” it — doesn’t make you right, Example of the s~~~ you bring:

Scar (Lion King): Gay
Darth Vader: Was f~~~ing Padmae Amidala

Are you f~~~ing kidding? Maybe Jeremy Irons is the voice actor is gay, but Scar’s sexuality is not even a variable. Are you sure you’re not a c~~~?? Darth Vader didn’t f~~~ anybody. Pussy-face Anakin didn’t even “f~~~” Padme. He actually had difficulty trying to kiss her in a scene that made everyone sick.

Coolant wrote:

You’re looking to find a conspiracy anywhere, chances are, you’re gonna find it everywhere.

Conspiracy? Well if I had to search for one I would be inclined to think you’re a t~~~.

Coolant wrote:

There are more rational explanations for why super villains are MGTOW, the most likely being that they aren’t.

You can take your c~~~ing sarcasm elsewhere. You won’t last another day here. MOST villains are painted as singles with no romantic conquests — from Ursula the Sea Witch to The Wicked Witch of the West and there is a specific reason for it which we have already outlined.

Anyone could say Jesus Christ was a MGTOW for all intents and purposes to illustrate character similarities…. but then again, YOU would rage on about how he never existed, or how the desciple sitting next to him at the last supper was actually Mary Magdeline his whore wife.

But “I’m not saying you’re wrong”.

Try another approach next time for f~~~ sake.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

Coolant wrote:

Joker: Dating Harley Quinn
TwoFaced: Was married
Darth Vader: Was f~~~ing Padmae Amidala
Hannibal Lecter: eats people bisexually
Freddy Krueger: Child molester
Jason: Norman Bates complex
Magneto: F~~~ing the s~~~ out of Mystique for nearly 50 years
Agent Smith (Matrix): a program in a computer generated simulation.
Palpatine (Star Wars): Gets hard when Anakin feels hatred building inside of him…..
Scar (Lion King): Gay (Or just flamboyantly Asexual, idunno…)
Loki(Marvel Universe): cross-dressing prankster god who is the world’s biggest PUA
Green Goblin: Married, had a kid, kid becomes green Goblin
Lex Luther: In love with Amanda Waller, Dating Lana Lang, Tana, and Lois Lane in Earth 3

I’m not saying you guys are wrong, but If You’re looking to find a conspiracy anywhere, chances are, you’re gonna find it everywhere.

There are more rational explanations for why super villains are MGTOW, the most likely being that they aren’t.

Most of the guys I’m mentioning are from the movies. Never really read any comic books. And, just because some guys were married and or dated people in the past doesn’t mean they’re not MGTOWs.

Also, most guys that are MGTOWs now, or at least the older guys, were MARRIED. And now, they’re MGTOWs. Just because you’ve been married in the past doesn’t disqualify you to become a MGTOW in the future.

Like with the Green Goblin. Once he became the Green Goblin, he went full on MGTOW. Didn’t give a s~~~ about anyone except himself. Same with TwoFaced. And, Joker just used Harley Quinn. you actually think he cared for her? Nope. She was just a piece of ass. Same with Magneto. Plus, I’m not seeing a “conspiracy everywhere”. I’m just stating how it is. The majority of villians in movies and TV shows are MGTOW. Sure, they may have been manginas before they got their powers/became villians, but once they did became villians, they were MGTOW.

And my whole point of this post was, is that most single guys that have no ambitions to getting in a relations~~~/marriage are almost ALWAYS the villians in movies.

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

RoyDal wrote:

MGHOW Paladin wrote:

Ever notice how all the badass villians are almost always MGTOW? I never got that until
I actually became MGTOW.

Good point! I had not really noticed either. I can’t recall any James Bond villains who had a wife calling them up and telling them to stop at the grocery store on the way home!

Haha, same.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I just saw this “Rage Pro” joker’s profile and read his “about” :

“I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself. There, I was trained in the art of sarcasm by grand master Fuk Yu in order to compensate for my lack of natural male testosterone.”

So it is a t~~~ wth a s~~~ty attitude. Like nobody even asks them “hey where are you from?” and they reply with with: ” I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself.” That’s a c~~~. Maybe not an actual vagina owner, but you can see where the post came from.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

Keymaster wrote:

I just saw this “Rage Pro” joker’s profile and read his “about” :

“I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself. There, I was trained in the art of sarcasm by grand master Fuk Yu in order to compensate for my lack of natural male testosterone.”

So it is a t~~~ wth a s~~~ty attitude. Like nobody even asks them “hey where are you from?” and they reply with with: ” I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself.” That’s a c~~~. Maybe not an actual vagina owner, but you can see where the post came from.

He’s probably a PUA or some s~~~ty pussy chaser that cowers to feminists.

[CoolantParticipant 16]

Keymaster wrote:

I just saw this “Rage Pro” joker’s profile and read his “about” :

“I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself. There, I was trained in the art of sarcasm by grand master Fuk Yu in order to compensate for my lack of natural male testosterone.”

So it is a t~~~ wth a s~~~ty attitude. Like nobody even asks them “hey where are you from?” and they reply with with: ” I hail from the land of noneofyourbusiness blvd, just off the corner of fat chance and go f~~~ yourself.” That’s a c~~~. Maybe not an actual vagina owner, but you can see where the post came from.

It’s called a joke, dude. Chill out.

Are you f~~~ing kidding? Maybe Jeremy Irons is the voice actor is gay, but Scar’s sexuality is not even a variable. Are you sure you’re not a c~~~?? Darth Vader didn’t f~~~ anybody. Pussy-face Anakin didn’t even “f~~~” Padme. He actually had difficulty trying to kiss her in a scene that made everyone sick.

Dude, you need to calm the f~~~ down. (O.o) Read the post again, after I edited it less than 60 seconds after posting it:
Scar (Lion King): Gay (Or just flamboyantly Asexual, idunno…)

Conspiracy? Well if I had to search for one I would be inclined to think you’re a t~~~.

Just to clarify, when you say:
“They do this because it’s easier to demonize an unmarried man and make him kook like like a “weirdo / creep / loser”. If you give them wives or girlfriends, suddenly the character becomes WEAK – and a good story is only as good as the villain. That is the formula. “

You are eluding to a conspiracy, and I’m inclined to disagree with you. Claiming that I’m some PUA spy or c~~~ looking to undermine your ideas is astronomically f~~~ing retarded, and you need to pull your head out of your ass.

You can take your c~~~ing sarcasm elsewhere. You won’t last another day here. MOST villains are painted as singles with no romantic conquests — from Ursula the Sea Witch to The Wicked Witch of the West and there is a specific reason for it which we have already outlined.

You can take your paranoid delusions and go f~~~ yourself with them. The wicked Witch and Ursela have more similarities with a modern Day feminist than MGTOW, since the Mysandric Landwhales and old Hags of 3rd wave Feminism are what the middle ages referred to as spinsters and old maids; doomed to a life of solitude because no man wanted to marry their ugly asses. Many of these people were labeled as witches and either killed or ousted from society.

Anyone could say Jesus Christ was a MGTOW for all intents and purposes to illustrate character similarities…. but then again, YOU would rage on about how he never existed, or how the desciple sitting next to him at the last supper was actually Mary Magdeline his whore wife.

….. You spent the past two posts derailing the thread with Ad-hominem attacks, Now you wanna start Strawmanning my f~~~ing position, and you’re calling me the c~~~? You’re calling ME the troll? Are you f~~~ing serious with this s~~~? I feel like I’m arguing with a bitch on her period right now!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Coolant wrote:

It’s called a joke, dude. Chill out.

I see. Then if the first words out of your mouth are a “joke”…. then WHO THE F~~~ would ever you seriously??

Thank you for saving me the trouble. Chillin’ out.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

The whole “Hero” mindset is a form of system manipulation. I did a video on how heroes is a bunch of bull:

I say do good, but not with this whole hero mentality

I know JohnTheOther did a similar video around the same time I did on this:

Do your life and what works for you, and stop worrying about the whole hero thing.

I had thought a retconned version of Hydra might be a good description for MGTOW.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

OK, how about this? Ever notice how badguys are all… wait for it… GUYS? I always hear about these c~~~s complaining about female representation in movies and more videogames. Why are men always the bad guys? It doesn’t really bother me myself particularly, but I have a feeling if you made a woman the villain and the guy killed her, they’d be protesting that the movie promotes domestic violence or some bulls~~~.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[DybbukParticipant 182]

I’ve noticed that if you’re talking about teenage (or younger) boy characters, the bad guy is often blonde, but the good guy almost never is. The Karate Kid, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones, etc. This is probably because the producers of the movie or show don’t want to be accused of supporting Aryanism.

[MGHOW PaladinParticipant 95]

Keymaster wrote:

RAGE PRO wrote:

It’s called a joke, dude. Chill out.

I see. Then if the first words out of your mouth are a “joke”…. then WHO THE F~~~ would ever you seriously??

Thank you for saving me the trouble. Chillin’ out.

This

[CoolantParticipant 16]

Even for those villains who are legit MGTOW, you could easily glean a reasonable explanation for this:

Now, before I continue, I hope none of you take this the wrong way, but Let’s be honest here: A person with the intelligence of say, Dr. Doom: a man who has come close to conquering the planet, and is now king of the universe in current comic continuity, wouldn’t be gullible or unwise enough to start getting a bitch pregnant during a one-night stand. This is not the type of guy who would, for example, allow himself to be put in a position where the government is after him for child support, and there’s a reason for this: Supervillains are disillusioned by societal customs because they are smart enough to think for themselves.

Anyone with a mind so potent that they can come so close to taking over the world that the only thing that can stop them is several beings with godlike powers, is not spending most of his time dicking a bitch down on the daily; He’s too busy Unlocking the secrets to success, and even world domination. Being intellectually superior to people who’s only purpose in life is to get laid.

I think Psycho Mantis’s speech from Metal Gear Solid spells it out rather well, if you skip ahead to 1:00

The fact that the minds of every other living thing on the planet wanted to do nothing but sex is what spurned him into becoming a supervillain in the first place.

In a lot of ways: not just MGTOW; Super Heroes represent the status quo; a populace afraid of change, protected by versions of themselves (People who share their ideas) with powers that allow them the strength to maintain the Utopia they’ve built to hide them from the truth: That their world is nothing but bulls~~~ built upon lies and Superstition. A “Matrix” if you will.

[HimeoParticipant 471]

I’m a writer. Popular fiction is written to appeal to the mass audience. A satisfying ending requires the audience to believe the main character “earned” their outcome. This audience decision is made based on the audiences judgement of the actions and choices of the character in question.

Ergo, fiction is slanted to appeal to the bias of the audience.

The only conspiracy here is that writers want to get paid.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Some points:

It’s interesting that comics and their characters can now be distinguished between film and print, and that these have gone mainstream in a way that has left their written origins far, far behind.

I read the comics growing up, and find the movies pleasant enough in a shoot-em-up action movie way; they don’t have a lot of characterization or story, however. I preferred the bronze age of comics, and knew at the time, somehow, that Marvel’s Secret Wars (or whatever the f~~~) were the end of an era. Odd that others felt that then, and call that the boundary now.

The comics weren’t for a mainstream audience; the disproof of the theory largely relies on the comic books. I see the movies as the important point. Also, some of the disproofs seem forced. Scar is asexual; if his voice is vaguely gay or reads as gay because Jeremy Irons is gay, I don’t see Disney pushing that. The Lion King is also based, -ish, on Hamlet, so . . . again, not gay. Darth Vader is asexual; Anakin has sex with Padmae at least once. The story has biblical overtones, darkly, intended or not. Judeo-Christian heros change their name with spiritual change. Darth changes his with a spiritual change to darkness. These are not the same person.

More to the point, the theory that villains are mgtow was clearly not implied to be a universal for all villains in every movie that has ever been made, ever. I take it as a literary analysis, which by definition must be general, and a fairly on-point one. As a general case, I find it creepily accurate, and the elaborations on the theory that the mainstream hates and despises self-directed single men is even more disturbing and rings more true.

I think that comic books are about to die as a phenomenom, because they’ve lost their original audience in pandering to the masses. The masses will briefly embrace them, and then they will die. This happened with the Mainstream Protestant Churches, as they went feminist and inclusive and touchy-feely; this happened with Dungeons and Dragons, which did the same. Brief, suicidal, next-financial-quarter-focus boom followed by bust. The Main Line has been declining for decades and decades; D&D decades later from the disastrous and stupidly censored 2nd edition AD&D supposedly has regained the same audience it had in the early 1980s . . . but as far as I can tell, much of that audience are actually original players who’ve returned to it on a rather more occasional basis than their earlier interest.

I digress, apologies. I’m starting to find the movies tiresome. The original characters were fairly edgy. The movie characters are as edgy as Hot Topic. The male-bashing is almost certainly part of it.

It is interesting to me how many people prefer the villains in these movies, however. Heath Ledger as the Joker was spellbinding, and is possibly one of the greatest characters ever portrayed. I literally can’t think of the guy who played Batman, and can barely picture him outside of the costume.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

If you want good MGTOW heroes, you can find them in the works of Ayn Rand and Alexandre Dumas.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

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