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Mendokusai 4 years, 2 months ago.
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Some points:
It’s interesting that comics and their characters can now be distinguished between film and print, and that these have gone mainstream in a way that has left their written origins far, far behind.
I read the comics growing up, and find the movies pleasant enough in a shoot-em-up action movie way; they don’t have a lot of characterization or story, however. I preferred the bronze age of comics, and knew at the time, somehow, that Marvel’s Secret Wars (or whatever the f~~~) were the end of an era. Odd that others felt that then, and call that the boundary now.
The comics weren’t for a mainstream audience; the disproof of the theory largely relies on the comic books. I see the movies as the important point. Also, some of the disproofs seem forced. Scar is asexual; if his voice is vaguely gay or reads as gay because Jeremy Irons is gay, I don’t see Disney pushing that. The Lion King is also based, -ish, on Hamlet, so . . . again, not gay. Darth Vader is asexual; Anakin has sex with Padmae at least once. The story has biblical overtones, darkly, intended or not. Judeo-Christian heros change their name with spiritual change. Darth changes his with a spiritual change to darkness. These are not the same person.
More to the point, the theory that villains are mgtow was clearly not implied to be a universal for all villains in every movie that has ever been made, ever. I take it as a literary analysis, which by definition must be general, and a fairly on-point one. As a general case, I find it creepily accurate, and the elaborations on the theory that the mainstream hates and despises self-directed single men is even more disturbing and rings more true.
I think that comic books are about to die as a phenomenom, because they’ve lost their original audience in pandering to the masses. The masses will briefly embrace them, and then they will die. This happened with the Mainstream Protestant Churches, as they went feminist and inclusive and touchy-feely; this happened with Dungeons and Dragons, which did the same. Brief, suicidal, next-financial-quarter-focus boom followed by bust. The Main Line has been declining for decades and decades; D&D decades later from the disastrous and stupidly censored 2nd edition AD&D supposedly has regained the same audience it had in the early 1980s . . . but as far as I can tell, much of that audience are actually original players who’ve returned to it on a rather more occasional basis than their earlier interest.
I digress, apologies. I’m starting to find the movies tiresome. The original characters were fairly edgy. The movie characters are as edgy as Hot Topic. The male-bashing is almost certainly part of it.
It is interesting to me how many people prefer the villains in these movies, however. Heath Ledger as the Joker was spellbinding, and is possibly one of the greatest characters ever portrayed. I literally can’t think of the guy who played Batman, and can barely picture him outside of the costume.
What I don’t get is that people actually start saying a guy’s gay or asexual if he has no interest in pursing a relations~~~ or marriage. Like with people saying Scar was asexual. Scar was just following his ambitions. And, Darth Vader was definitely not asexual because he had a son named Luke. I don’t know about Anakin as i didn’t pay much attention to the prequels of Star Wars. I found most of them to be boring.
My only point was that you can see feminism in most newer TV shows and movies creeping up to you like a roach that just won’t die. Example 1: The Big Bang Theory. The leading feminist in the show: Penny. All of the nerds put her on a pedestal. Even Sheldon eventually puts her on a pedestal. The few single guys on the show are made out to be retarded pussy chasers.
And as far as villains go, whether or not they were forced into being MGTOW or choice to become MGTOW, they eventually go there one way or another.
But, even with the new Star Wars movie coming out, you can see the feminist bulls~~~ in it a mile away if you took the red pill.
Which is why I don’t watch that much TV or movies anymore.
If you want good MGTOW heroes, you can find them in the works of Ayn Rand and Alexandre Dumas.
Or we can make our own heroes/villains.
Speaking of Ayn Rand it’s funny how she is vilified by society when all she really preached was self determination and personal responsibility,one of the few woimin that actually made some sense.
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