URGENT! I'm in really bad shape

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I’m not doing good at all

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I just got a lawyer’s letter with proof and all and I really don’t think I have a chance. I being nailed for $8000 and I can’t see a way to avoid it. her lawyer sent tons of proof that i did not know she had. I’m going down for 8k and I’m already busted, just got off welfare 3 months ago and now she drills me down for $8k

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[DocParticipant]

What’s up?

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I just need a sign of life, I’m so raging mad right now it’s insane. i could go bust her neck, but i wont, but i damn feel like it

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She’s asking for money that was given to her while we were married, money to be used to buy the…

I don’t think I can make much sense right now

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I’
m just hoping to calm down… to keep it together long enought to take a step back

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Where does a MGTOW go in a case like this? I don’t have 8 grand? man, they will stop at nothing to try and get an ex upset

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Anonymous 5]

Point Of No Return wrote:

I just got a lawyer’s letter with proof and all and I really don’t think I have a chance. I being nailed for $8000 and I can’t see a way to avoid it. her lawyer sent tons of proof that i did not know she had. I’m going down for 8k and I’m already busted, just got off welfare 3 months ago and now she drills me down for $8k

Damn, I don’t have any advice for you, since I’ve never been in that particular situation.

Can’t you leave the country?

[DocParticipant]

You can take a mental step back and think before acting. Pause for thought. Recognise that the emotional rage will calm. Wait if you can before acting. Then you will act more decisively.

Give yourself time. Insist on it.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[OldBillParticipant]

Keep talking to us, keep posting.

Getting the story across to us will help you deal with it.

Why does she want the 8K? What proof are they using? What is or was the money for?

Talk to us. Scream, rant, and vent here.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

8k in ongoing alimony? Or just a one time payment?
The money was given to you as couple, for a certain purpose. Did you use it for that purpose? How long ago was that “gift”?

Bro’, when dealing with lawyers, always remember Douglas Adams’ Hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy- Don’t Panic!

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

She sent me an email about some other piece of s~~~ that wound up at my place… and went on about how it got there without her consent yadda yadda yadda … I give a s~~~ about her f~~~ing cables that she uses for her s~~~ devices… and she’s asking me this s~~~ while shes telling her lawyer to nail me for 8 grand!! I broke no contact dudes…. I broke no contact….I wrote her mother , who was also writting me…and I told her ENOUGH!….stop with the s~~~… (mother-in-law0…goes on about” oh i hope one day you will have light come into your life yadda yadda yadaa….BULLS~~~…
so I wrote mother in law….ENOUGH! i says to her… I DON”T WANT TO KNOW …i wrote her. I sent her the copy of the document showing that her daughter has basically successfully sued me for 8 grand! I broke no contact with the ex…phone a couple of times…no answer…(very good in a way, because i was about to blow up on her)….I replied to her email saying… DO NOT CONTACT ME!!! —…now dudes..what the f~~~ is it with this f~~~ing bitches that makes thme think they can just keep bugging the f~~~ out of us because we go our own way…I want peace…but that money is spent already…gone…gone years ago into a down payment on a place… damned!!!

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[DocParticipant]

Think through all the avenues available to you. From worst to best.

Work out the ‘if – then’ scenarios.

‘if I do this – what then?’ Etc for each.

Plan. Think. Pause. Act when you can account for each move and counter move. Try and work it out to the final outcome from best to worst so you are not caught out by unforeseen moves. It will help you remain as in control of the situation as possible.

Above all else use all the time you have available. That way you give yourself time to think and maintain the control.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 42]

Time payments, just keep telling yourself eventually it will all be over, the dust settled, and normal returns with the added freedom; NEVER THE F~~~ AGAIN!

These c~~~s are gonna run out of men to even talk to them! I’m already there and I’ve NEVER BEEN MARRIED OR COHABITED!

Calling all lawyers and judges,,,, F~~~ YOU! Your days are NUMBERED!

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

It’s cuz her parents sent her 8 grand cuz i said i would not by the place unless i had some help, cuz i was pushed financially…so they agreed and my ex got 8k so then i told the ex..”ok, now with the 8k I’ll agree to buyt he place. so I bought the place and the 8k got sunk into it…but nows they are wanting it back… in my mind it’s a gift to the family and should go back into her f~~~ing little pocket… without that 8k i would not have signed bacuse i could not have made the down payment.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

man, i’m almost at the point of not caring about doxxing, and almost temted to post all the s~~~ right here. but i know that would not be a good thing

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

I feel like a total f~~~ ass MGTOW bulls~~~ artist at this moment. It’s all dissolveing in front of me. I need something to hang to.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[OldBillParticipant]

Okay, if I got it right her parents helped you as a couple buy some property by giving you 8K. Now they want the money back?

Do you still own or live in the property? How was the property divided during the divorce? Why wasn’t the 8K part of the equity?

Get a lawyer tomorrow, brother. There must be options available to you.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[DocParticipant]

Point Of No Return wrote:

man, i’m almost at the point of not caring about doxxing, and almost temted to post all the s~~~ right here. but i know that would not be a good thing

Point Of No Return wrote:

I feel like a total f~~~ ass MGTOW bulls~~~ artist at this moment. It’s all dissolveing in front of me. I need something to hang to.

Right now – if you are feeling highly stressed your mind will not think as clearly as you would when not stressed.
In short stress hormones are designed to shut down the thinking part of the brain so you get out of the way of the danger. It’s a throw back to when we were more primitive creatures and stress uses the same mechanism and the fight or flight response.

It shuts of the thinking part so you just ACT.
But right now it’s being mid- applied. Now is the time to NOT act but instead THINK.

Bit to do that you need to stop experienc8ng the stress hormones. Then you can think more clearly before you choose the correct action.

So – take the time you need. It’s imperative you do not react. Instead wait then respond.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Take a deep breath… ! This will get sorted out in time.

Get legal advice however you can.

Your ex’s lawyers will threaten you and demand the sun, moon, and stars — even when she is entitled peanuts, or nothing. It’s strategy.

Sounds to me like her parents gave up $8K, it was deployed by you as a couple into purchasing a matrimonial home, which was a family asset purchased by/for both parties.

Sure they/she can demand it back, but that doesn’t immediately mean they are entitled to get it back– let alone all coming from you.

You need legal advice.

Stay cool. Divorce is s~~~. Take heart — this will get worked out in time, and then you can get on with your real life…

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

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